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* Bob tries to convince Chris out of his cynicism and Chris says he might have a bunch. After all a true cynic is cynical about their own cynicism.

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* ** Bob tries to convince Chris out of his cynicism and Chris says he might have a bunch. After all a true cynic is cynical about their own cynicism.

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** Chris' cynicism got so bad that this has left Tom and the rest of the idealists no choice but to have him kicked out of society with no point of returning, leaving him to fend for himself out in the wild. However, this leads to Chris being more justified than ever in his conviction that the world is a CrapsackWorld, thanks to the betrayal and the experiences in the CrapsackWorld that is the wild. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]
** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that is the exact reason why he's so pessimistic about himself]]. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy proving their cynicism, but every loss leads to self-hatred proving their cynicism even further]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-proving self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even bring themselves to commit suicide in the first place]].
** Realizing that the idealists are [[NotSoDifferent no better than Chris]], for all the insults they directed at the latter, [[JadeColoredGlasses Stan]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere ditches]] the [[WideEyedIdealist starry-eyed idiots]], [[LetThemDie leaving them to die once]] Chris inevitably [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge returns to take his revenge]]. Stan remains convinced that said idealists are [[AssholeVictim morons who were just asking for death]].

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** Chris' *Bob tries to convince Chris out of his cynicism got so bad that this has left Tom and the rest of the idealists no choice but to have him kicked out of society with no point of returning, leaving him to fend for himself out in the wild. However, this leads to Chris being more justified than ever in his conviction that the world says he might have a bunch. After all a true cynic is a CrapsackWorld, thanks to the betrayal and the experiences in the CrapsackWorld that is the wild. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]
** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit
cynical about their own cynicism.
**Chris admits
that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, pathetic loser...and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that is the exact reason why [[StoppedCaring he's so pessimistic about himself]]. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy proving their cynicism, but every loss leads to self-hatred proving their cynicism even further]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-proving self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even bring themselves to commit suicide in the first place]].
** Realizing that the idealists are [[NotSoDifferent no better than Chris]], for all the insults they directed at the latter, [[JadeColoredGlasses Stan]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere ditches]] the [[WideEyedIdealist starry-eyed idiots]], [[LetThemDie leaving them to die once]] Chris inevitably [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge returns to take his revenge]]. Stan remains convinced that said idealists are [[AssholeVictim morons who were just asking for death]].
content with that]].



** The idealists realize that offensive tactics and anger are worst ways to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger and hatred manifested as a form of philosophy, and any insult directed at it will simply be assimilated. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.
** Chris does admit he's pathetic and a complete loser....but [[StoppedCaring he's content with that]].

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** The idealists realize that offensive tactics and anger are worst ways to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger and hatred manifested as a form of philosophy, and any insult directed at it will simply be assimilated. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically. \n** Chris does admit he's pathetic and a complete loser....but [[StoppedCaring he's content with that]].

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* '''Reconstructed''': The idealists realize that offensive tactics and anger are worst ways to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger and hatred manifested as a form of philosophy, and any insult directed at it will simply be assimilated. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.

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The idealists realize that offensive tactics and anger are worst ways to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger and hatred manifested as a form of philosophy, and any insult directed at it will simply be assimilated. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.
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** Chris does admit he's pathetic and a complete loser....but [[StoppedCaring he's content with that]].
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** Chris is cynical, but decides to keep it to himself so that he doesn't get called out by idealistic characters.
* '''Discussed''': "What is it going to make you accept the fact that being idealistic is the right path to life?"

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** Chris is cynical, but decides to keep it to himself so that he doesn't get called out by idealistic characters.
the [[NoSympathy unsympathetic idealists]].
* '''Discussed''': "What is it going to make you Chris to accept the fact that being idealistic is the right path to life?"
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* '''Justified''': Chris was a WideEyedIdealist who became cynical due to a FreudianExcuse, which made him react violently against his past idealism even though it coloured his perception of reality.

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* '''Justified''': Chris was a WideEyedIdealist who became cynical due to a FreudianExcuse, which made him react violently against his past idealism even though it coloured colored his perception of reality.reality.



* '''Discussed''': "What is it going to make you realize that being cynical sucks?"
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* '''Discussed''': "What is it going to make you realize accept the fact that being cynical sucks?"
idealistic is the right path to life?"
* '''Conversed''': ???"I'm sick of this [[{{Wangst}} whiny]] [[GrumpyBear grouchy]] bastard. The heroes need to kill him if he's too scared to kill himself."
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* '''Straight''': [[TheCynic Chris]] thinks that he's right about his worldview of how the world works, but [[TheIdealist Tom]] reprimands him for having this kind of thinking.

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* '''Straight''': [[TheCynic Chris]] thinks that he's right about his worldview of how the world works, but [[TheIdealist Tom]] reprimands rebukes him for having this kind of thinking.

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** When Chris shows his cynicism, every single idealist in the world [[FelonyMisdemeanor vehemently treats him as the most evil person in the world]] [[HitlerAteSugar that gave Hitler a run for his money]].

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** When Chris shows expresses his cynicism, every single idealist in the world [[FelonyMisdemeanor vehemently treats him as the most evil person in the world]] [[HitlerAteSugar that gave Hitler a run for his money]].



* '''Defied''': "[[ImplausibleDeniability Cynicism is for losers? I don't think so!]]"
* '''Discussed''': ???

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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
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"[[ImplausibleDeniability Cynicism is for losers? I don't think so!]]"
** Chris is cynical, but decides to keep it to himself so that he doesn't get called out by idealistic characters.
* '''Discussed''': ???"What is it going to make you realize that being cynical sucks?"

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* '''Parodied''': Chris lives in a idealist world where the punishment for being a cynic is to [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment watch The Care Bears]].

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Chris lives in a idealist world where the punishment for being a cynic is to [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment watch The Care Bears]].Bears]].
** When Chris shows his cynicism, every single idealist in the world [[FelonyMisdemeanor vehemently treats him as the most evil person in the world]] [[HitlerAteSugar that gave Hitler a run for his money]].
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* '''Inverted''': SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids.

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* '''Inverted''': SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids.SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids



* '''Invoked''': [[TheMessiah Bob]] tells Tom to get Chris into realizing that he is ruining his own life with his cynicism.

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* '''Invoked''': [[TheMessiah [[AllLovingHero Bob]] tells Tom to get Chris into realizing that he is ruining his own life with his cynicism.
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** Realizing that the idealists are [[NotSoDifferent no better than Chris]], for all the insults they directed at the latter, [[JadeColoredGlasses Stan]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere ditches]] the [[WideEyedIdealist starry-eyed idiots]], [[LetThemDie leaving them to die once]] Chris inevitably [[RoaringRampage returns to take his revenge]]. Stan remains convinced that said idealists are [[AssholeVictim morons who were just asking for death]].

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** Realizing that the idealists are [[NotSoDifferent no better than Chris]], for all the insults they directed at the latter, [[JadeColoredGlasses Stan]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere ditches]] the [[WideEyedIdealist starry-eyed idiots]], [[LetThemDie leaving them to die once]] Chris inevitably [[RoaringRampage [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge returns to take his revenge]]. Stan remains convinced that said idealists are [[AssholeVictim morons who were just asking for death]].
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** Realizing that the idealists are [[NotSoDifferent no better than Chris]], for all the insults they directed at the latter, [[JadeColoredGlasses Stan]] [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere ditches]] the [[WideEyedIdealist starry-eyed idiots]], [[LetThemDie leaving them to die once]] Chris inevitably [[RoaringRampage returns to take his revenge]]. Stan remains convinced that said idealists are [[AssholeVictim morons who were just asking for death]].

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* '''Downplayed''': While he doesn't mock those who are idealistic, Chris is cynical about life, but Tom tries to comfort him in an attempt to not let his cynicism grow further.

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While he doesn't mock those who are idealistic, Chris is cynical about life, but Tom tries to comfort him in an attempt to not let his cynicism grow further.
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** Chris's cynicism once got the better of him. He hasn't changed much except he now has the drive to push his potential to its limit.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Chris' cynicism got so bad that this has left Tom and the rest of the idealists no choice but to have him kicked out of society with no point of returning, leaving him to fend for himself out in the wild. However, this leads to Chris being more justified than ever in his conviction that the world is a CrapsackWorld, thanks to the betrayal and the experiences in the CrapsackWorld that is the wild. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]
* Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that is the exact reason why he's so pessimistic about himself]]. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy proving their cynicism, but every loss leads to self-hatred proving their cynicism even further]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-proving self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even bring themselves to commit suicide in the first place]].

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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
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Chris' cynicism got so bad that this has left Tom and the rest of the idealists no choice but to have him kicked out of society with no point of returning, leaving him to fend for himself out in the wild. However, this leads to Chris being more justified than ever in his conviction that the world is a CrapsackWorld, thanks to the betrayal and the experiences in the CrapsackWorld that is the wild. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]
* ** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that is the exact reason why he's so pessimistic about himself]]. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy proving their cynicism, but every loss leads to self-hatred proving their cynicism even further]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-proving self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even bring themselves to commit suicide in the first place]].
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** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that is the exact reason why he's so pessimistic about himself]]. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy proving their cynicism, but every loss leads to self-hatred proving their cynicism even further]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-proving self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even bring themselves to commit suicide in the first place]].

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** * Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that is the exact reason why he's so pessimistic about himself]]. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy proving their cynicism, but every loss leads to self-hatred proving their cynicism even further]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-proving self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even bring themselves to commit suicide in the first place]].
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** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and that is exactly why he's so pessimistic about himself. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy fuelling cynicism while every loss leads to self hatred fuelling cynicism]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even commit suicide]] in the first place

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** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and [[NiceJobBreakingItHero that is exactly the exact reason why he's so pessimistic about himself. himself]]. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy fuelling cynicism while proving their cynicism, but every loss leads to self hatred fuelling cynicism]], self-hatred proving their cynicism even further]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-proving self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even bring themselves to commit suicide]] suicide in the first placeplace]].
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** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and that is exactly why he's so pessimistic about himself. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy fuelling cynicism while every loss leads to self hatred fuelling cynicism]] [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even commit suicide]] in the first place
* '''Reconstructed''': The idealists realize that offensive tactics and anger are worst ways to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger and hatred manifested as a form of philosophy. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.

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** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and that is exactly why he's so pessimistic about himself. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy fuelling cynicism while every loss leads to self hatred fuelling cynicism]] cynicism]], trapping him in a vicious cycle of never-ending self-hatred [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even commit suicide]] in the first place
* '''Reconstructed''': The idealists realize that offensive tactics and anger are worst ways to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger and hatred manifested as a form of philosophy.philosophy, and any insult directed at it will simply be assimilated. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.
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** Chris, whenever he is called out on his cynicism, does admit that he's a complete loser, that he should have killed himself if he thinks the world sucks, and other such the insults flung to him by idealists, and that is exactly why he's so pessimistic about himself. Turns out, there's no way to convince cynics out of their depression, because [[XanatosGambit every win is a reinforcement to their philosophy fuelling cynicism while every loss leads to self hatred fuelling cynicism]] [[DespairEventHorizon to the point that the cynics cannot even commit suicide]] in the first place
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* '''Straight''': [[TheCynic Chris]] thinks that he's right about his worldview of how the world works, but [[TheIdealist Tom]] scolds him for having this kind of thinking.

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* '''Straight''': [[TheCynic Chris]] thinks that he's right about his worldview of how the world works, but [[TheIdealist Tom]] scolds reprimands him for having this kind of thinking.



* '''Downplayed''': While he doesn't mock those who are idealistic, Chris is cynical about life, but Tom rebukes him for acting that way.

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* '''Downplayed''': While he doesn't mock those who are idealistic, Chris is cynical about life, but Tom rebukes tries to comfort him for acting that way.in an attempt to not let his cynicism grow further.



* '''Lampshaded''': ???

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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"You're a cynic and you admit life sucks and you're a loser. Why haven't you kill yourself yet?"
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* '''Reconstructed''': The idealists realize that anger and scolding is the worst way to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger manifested as a form of philosophy. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.

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* '''Reconstructed''': The idealists realize that offensive tactics and anger and scolding is the are worst way ways to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger and hatred manifested as a form of philosophy. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Chris' cynicism got so bad that this has left Tom and the rest of the idealists no choice but to have him kicked out of society with no point of returning, leaving him to fend for himself out in the wild.
* '''Reconstructed''': Chris comes back, more justified than ever in his conviction that the world is a CrapsackWorld, thanks to the betrayal and the experiences in the CrapsackWorld that is the wild. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]

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* '''Deconstructed''': Chris' cynicism got so bad that this has left Tom and the rest of the idealists no choice but to have him kicked out of society with no point of returning, leaving him to fend for himself out in the wild.
* '''Reconstructed''':
wild. However, this leads to Chris comes back, being more justified than ever in his conviction that the world is a CrapsackWorld, thanks to the betrayal and the experiences in the CrapsackWorld that is the wild. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]]]
* '''Reconstructed''': The idealists realize that anger and scolding is the worst way to disprove cynicism, because cynicism is, after all, anger manifested as a form of philosophy. In order to justify that cynicism is for losers, they have to prove it realistically.
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* '''Justified''': ???

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* '''Justified''': ???Chris was a WideEyedIdealist who became cynical due to a FreudianExcuse, which made him react violently against his past idealism even though it coloured his perception of reality.



* '''Reconstructed''': Chris comes back, stronger than ever in his conviction that the world is a dark and gruesome place, thanks to the betrayal. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]

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* '''Reconstructed''': Chris comes back, stronger more justified than ever in his conviction that the world is a dark and gruesome place, CrapsackWorld, thanks to the betrayal.betrayal and the experiences in the CrapsackWorld that is the wild. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]
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* '''Reconstructed''': Chris comes back, stronger than ever in his conviction that the world is a dark and gruesome place, thanks to the betrayal. Thanks to having to fend for himself, [[NiceJobBreakingItHero he is physically stronger now as well, and hungry for revenge...]]
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* '''Parodied''': Chris lives in a idealist world where being a cynic is punishable by [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment watching the Care Bears]].

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* '''Parodied''': Chris lives in a idealist world where the punishment for being a cynic is punishable by to [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment watching the watch The Care Bears]].

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* '''Subverted''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': ???

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* '''Subverted''': ???
Chris' cynicism grates on Tom's nerves, but the more he thinks about it, Chris was right.
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Subverted''': ...But then the world became better, and now Chris is proven wrong again.
* '''Parodied''': ???Chris lives in a idealist world where being a cynic is punishable by [[CoolAndUnusualPunishment watching the Care Bears]].



* '''Invoked''': ???

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* '''Invoked''': ???[[TheMessiah Bob]] tells Tom to get Chris into realizing that he is ruining his own life with his cynicism.



* '''Deconstructed''': Chris' cynicism got so bad that this has left Tom and the rest of the idealists no choice but to have him kicked out of society with no point of returning, leaving him to fend for himself out in the wild.



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%%* '''Reconstructed''': ???
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* '''Straight''': [[TheCynic Chris]] thinks that he's right about his worldview of how the world works, but [[TheIdealist Tom]] [[ShutUpHannibal calls him out of this wrong thinking]].

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* '''Straight''': [[TheCynic Chris]] thinks that he's right about his worldview of how the world works, but [[TheIdealist Tom]] [[ShutUpHannibal calls scolds him out of for having this wrong thinking]]. kind of thinking.



* '''Downplayed''': While he doesn't mock those who are idealistic, Chris is cynical about life, but Tom [[WhatTheHellHero rebukes him for acting that way]].

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* '''Downplayed''': While he doesn't mock those who are idealistic, Chris is cynical about life, but Tom [[WhatTheHellHero rebukes him for acting that way]].way.



* '''Enforced''': "[[CondescendingCompassion These poor people who always think about the negative]]. Let's write a work where it can shut their mouths and stop acting like a bunch of cowards."

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* '''Enforced''': "[[CondescendingCompassion These poor people who always think about the negative]]. Let's write a work where it can shut their mouths and stop acting like a bunch of cowards."
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* '''Downplayed''': Chris, a cynical character, doesn't mock others' idealism, but Tom [[WhatTheHellHero rebukes him for acting that way]].

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* '''Downplayed''': Chris, a cynical character, While he doesn't mock others' idealism, those who are idealistic, Chris is cynical about life, but Tom [[WhatTheHellHero rebukes him for acting that way]].
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'''Basic Trope''': Being a cynic isn't all that is cracked up to be.
*'''Straight''': [[TheCynic Chris]] thinks that he's right about his worldview of how the world works, but [[TheIdealist Tom]] [[ShutUpHannibal calls him out of this wrong thinking]].
*'''Exaggerated''': [[StrawNihilist Chris]] endlessly mocks people for their idealistic attitudes and worldviews. This is an instant BerserkButton to Tom and the rest of the idealists.
*'''Downplayed''': Chris, a cynical character, doesn't mock others' idealism, but Tom [[WhatTheHellHero rebukes him for acting that way]].
*'''Justified''': ???
*'''Inverted''': SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids.
*'''Subverted''': ???
*'''Double Subverted''': ???
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': ???
*'''Averted''':
** Chris isn't called out for his cynicism.
** Chris isn't cynical at all, but he isn't idealistic either.
*'''Enforced''': "[[CondescendingCompassion These poor people who always think about the negative]]. Let's write a work where it can shut their mouths and stop acting like a bunch of cowards."
*'''Lampshaded''': ???
*'''Invoked''': ???
*'''Exploited''': ???
*'''Defied''': "[[ImplausibleDeniability Cynicism is for losers? I don't think so!]]"
*'''Discussed''': ???
*'''Conversed''': ???
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Back to SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers, you {{wangst}}y poor soul.
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