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* '''Implied''': The time of Nineties Anti-Heroes is a thing of the past in the story and never shown, but looked upon as a [[TheDarkTimes literal]] [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] by the characters from the present, and Mega-Swordd [[NeverLiveItDown has an undying reputation]] as a textbook example of one such "hero".

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* '''Implied''': The time of Nineties Anti-Heroes is a thing of the past in the story and never shown, but looked upon as a [[TheDarkTimes literal]] [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks [[MediaNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] by the characters from the present, and Mega-Swordd [[NeverLiveItDown has an undying reputation]] as a textbook example of one such "hero".
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* '''Straight''': Mega-Swordd is a ferocious fighter with exaggerated anatomy and an absurdly large weapon. He only appears heroic when he is fighting complete monsters.

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* '''Straight''': Mega-Swordd is a ferocious fighter with exaggerated anatomy and an absurdly large weapon.{{BFS}} (he may also count as TheyCallHimSword because of his weapon). He only appears heroic when he is fighting complete monsters.



** Mega-Swordd is drawn like a real-world bodybuilder, and carries one of the largest one-man weapons invented in real life.

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** Mega-Swordd is drawn like a real-world bodybuilder, strongman, and carries one of the largest one-man weapons invented in real life.
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'''Basic Trope''': The over-the-top [[DarkerAndEdgier edgy]] anti-hero characters very popular in superhero comics of TheNineties and [[The2000s 2000s]].

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'''Basic Trope''': The over-the-top [[DarkerAndEdgier edgy]] anti-hero AntiHero characters very popular in superhero comics of TheNineties and [[The2000s 2000s]].
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'''Basic Trope''': The over-the-top [[DarkerAndEdgier grim and gritty]] anti-hero characters very popular in superhero comics of the 1990's.

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'''Basic Trope''': The over-the-top [[DarkerAndEdgier grim and gritty]] edgy]] anti-hero characters very popular in superhero comics of the 1990's.TheNineties and [[The2000s 2000s]].
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Mega-Swordd is a SuperPoweredEvilSide of ActualPacifist of [[MessianicArchetype Jeschon]], a slender and saintly and forgiving figure who tries to keep Mega-swordd in check and reform others at all cost.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': Mega-Swordd is a SuperPoweredEvilSide of ActualPacifist of [[MessianicArchetype Jeschon]], a slender and saintly and forgiving figure who tries to keep Mega-swordd in check and reform others at all cost.



** The writers are [[NostalgiaFilter big]] [[SoBadItsGood fans]] of the 90s as well as comic books.

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** The writers are [[NostalgiaFilter big]] [[SoBadItsGood fans]] of the 90s '90s as well as comic books.



* '''Discussed''': "Holy crap, this guy is the hero!? What's the villain like?"

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* '''Discussed''': "Holy crap, this guy is the hero!? hero?! What's the villain like?"
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** (A) Mega-Swordd ''looks'' like a nineties anti-hero, and acts like one ''initially,'' but when the fight is over and the villain prepares to die, Mega-Swordd proves to be TheCape, and [[ThouShaltNotKill throws them in prison.]]
** (B) Mega-Swordd seems like a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold well meaning jerkass]] even if [[StrawNihilist he disparages idealism as being misplaced most of the time]], but when things are done and over with, he reveals that he was TheMole for Emperor Evulz and was EvilAllAlong.
** (C) Mega-Swordd is actually a TerrorHero who tries to ''minimize'' the killing he does pragmatically and even then the sheer overkill means it is [[MercyKill a quick and painless, if messy death]]. He has actually killed only three people: the first was about to kill a hostage, the second a mind controller of a slave army caught in battle, and the third was reluctantly to someone suffering from TheCorruption - he would have preferred to try to find a cure but honored his final wish anyway.

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** (A) Mega-Swordd ''looks'' like a nineties 90s anti-hero, and acts like one ''initially,'' ''initially'', but when the fight is over and the villain prepares to die, Mega-Swordd proves to be TheCape, and [[ThouShaltNotKill throws them in prison.]]
** (B) Mega-Swordd seems like a [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold well meaning jerkass]] even if [[StrawNihilist he disparages idealism as being misplaced most of the time]], but when things are done and over with, he reveals that he was TheMole for Emperor Evulz and was EvilAllAlong.
** (C) Mega-Swordd is actually a TerrorHero who tries to ''minimize'' the killing he does pragmatically and even then the sheer overkill means it is [[MercyKill a quick and painless, if messy death]]. He has actually killed only three people: the first was about to kill a hostage, the second a mind controller of a slave army caught in battle, and the third was reluctantly to someone suffering from TheCorruption - he would have preferred to try to find a cure but honored his final wish anyway.



** (A) He only throws traditional villains in prison. Complete monsters are so evil that they set off his BerserkButton, and he hacks them down brutally to prevent them from slaughtering innocents. Bonus points if he also {{Lampshade|Hanging}}s and {{Justifie|dTrope}}s the act by explaining that the Nineties Anti-Hero method is the only way to take complete monsters off the streets.
** (B) However, he is shown to be an AntiVillain who was working for Emperor Evulz as part of a [[DealWithTheDevil bargain with him]] to protect [[MoralityPet someone close to him]] and achieve a [[WellIntentionedExtremist utilitarian goal in the end]].
** (C) On the other hand, Mega-Swordd is also [[TheCynic deeply cynical]] and [[OpportunisticBastard very opportunistic]] for a superhero - he often refuses to give the benefit of the doubt [[ReformedButRejected to villains who are trying to reform]] and scoffs at [[WellIntentionedExtremist genuinely well-intentioned ones]] as hypocrites, shills shamelessly for InUniverse [[TheMerch merchandise deals]], and frequently takes advantage of his fellow supers to get things done for himself.

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** (A) He only throws traditional villains in prison. Complete monsters are so evil that they set off his BerserkButton, and he hacks them down brutally to prevent them from slaughtering innocents. Bonus points if he also {{Lampshade|Hanging}}s and {{Justifie|dTrope}}s the act by explaining that the Nineties Anti-Hero method is the only way to take complete monsters off the streets.
** (B) However, he is shown to be an AntiVillain who was working for Emperor Evulz as part of a [[DealWithTheDevil bargain with him]] to protect [[MoralityPet someone close to him]] and achieve a [[WellIntentionedExtremist utilitarian goal in the end]].
** (C) On the other hand, Mega-Swordd is also [[TheCynic deeply cynical]] and [[OpportunisticBastard very opportunistic]] for a superhero - he often refuses to give the benefit of the doubt [[ReformedButRejected to villains who are trying to reform]] and scoffs at [[WellIntentionedExtremist genuinely well-intentioned ones]] as hypocrites, shills shamelessly for InUniverse [[TheMerch merchandise deals]], and frequently takes advantage of his fellow supers to get things done for himself.



** "So this is supposed to be that Mega-Swordd guy you harp about? As far as his whole '[[HumansAreBastards Evil men are like cockroaches: You can't cure them of their flaws, you can only kill them]]' rant, all I can say is that he has a [[HeWhoFightsMonsters jacked up]] [[KnightTemplar sense of morality]] and its beginning to piss me off."

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** "So this is supposed to be that Mega-Swordd guy you harp about? As far as his whole '[[HumansAreBastards Evil men are like cockroaches: You can't cure them of their flaws, you can only kill them]]' rant, all I can say is that he has a [[HeWhoFightsMonsters jacked up]] [[KnightTemplar sense of morality]] and its it's beginning to piss me off."



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* '''Played For Drama''':

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* '''Played For Horror''': Mega-Swordd became timelessly infamous by performing two huge massacres on January 1st 1990 and December 31st 1999, wiping out all of the criminals (actual and alleged) in the city, an act so bloody that all heroes that came after him swore earnestly that they would never fall so low. And then Mega-Swordd decides to try to "bring back the Nineties" by killing all of his fellow heroes and replacing them with [[AntiHeroSubstitute his own hand-picked "improved" replacements]].

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* '''Played For for Horror''': Mega-Swordd became timelessly infamous by performing two huge massacres on January 1st 1990 and December 31st 1999, wiping out all of the criminals (actual and alleged) in the city, an act so bloody that all heroes that came after him swore earnestly that they would never fall so low. And then Mega-Swordd decides to try to "bring back the Nineties" 90s" by killing all of his fellow heroes and replacing them with [[AntiHeroSubstitute his own hand-picked "improved" replacements]].
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** Mega-Swordd is curt, anti-social, and [[GoodIsNotSoft merciless to evildoers]]. The superhero doesn't like to send him on missions to oppose villains they think can be redeemed.

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** Mega-Swordd is curt, anti-social, and [[GoodIsNotSoft merciless to evildoers]]. The superhero society doesn't like to send him on missions to oppose villains they think can be redeemed.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Mega-Swordd has cartoonish proportions, and carries a weapon the size of a medium building. He fights against [[OmnicidalManiac crazed dicators who want to blow up the world]] and [[AGodAmI madmen who think they're gods of the universe]].
* '''Downplayed''': Mega-Swordd is drawn like a real-world bodybuilder, and carries one of the largest one-man weapons invented in real life.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Mega-Swordd has cartoonish proportions, and carries a weapon the size of a medium building. He fights against [[OmnicidalManiac crazed dicators dictators who want to blow up the world]] and [[AGodAmI madmen who think they're gods of the universe]].
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Mega-Swordd is drawn like a real-world bodybuilder, and carries one of the largest one-man weapons invented in real life.life.
** Mega-Swordd is curt, anti-social, and [[GoodIsNotSoft merciless to evildoers]]. The superhero doesn't like to send him on missions to oppose villains they think can be redeemed.



** A discusion about what makes a hero a hero and whether or not Mega-Swordd fits the criteria.

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** A discusion discussion about what makes a hero a hero and whether or not Mega-Swordd fits the criteria.
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** (C) Mega-Swordd is actually a TerrorHero who tries to /minimize/ the killing he does pragmatically and even then the sheer overkill means it is [[MercyKill a quick and painless, if messy death]]. He has actually killed only three people: the first was about to kill a hostage, the second a mind controller of a slave army caught in battle, and the third was reluctantly to someone suffering from TheCorruption - he would have preferred to try to find a cure but honored his final wish anyway.

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** (C) Mega-Swordd is actually a TerrorHero who tries to /minimize/ ''minimize'' the killing he does pragmatically and even then the sheer overkill means it is [[MercyKill a quick and painless, if messy death]]. He has actually killed only three people: the first was about to kill a hostage, the second a mind controller of a slave army caught in battle, and the third was reluctantly to someone suffering from TheCorruption - he would have preferred to try to find a cure but honored his final wish anyway.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Mega-Swordd became timelessly infamous by performing two huge massacres on January 1st 1990 and December 31st 1999, wiping out all of the criminals (actual and alleged) in the city, an act so bloody that all heroes that came after him swore earnestly that they would never fall so low. And then Mega-Swordd decides to try to "bring back the Nineties" by killing all of his fellow heroes and replacing them with [[AntiHeroSubstitute his own hand-picked "improved" replacements]].

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** (C) Mega-Sword is actually a TerrorHero who tries to /minimize/ the killing he does pragmatically and even then the sheer overkill means it is [[MercyKill a quick and painless, if messy death]]. He has actually killed only three people: the first was about to kill a hostage, the second a mind controller of a slave army caught in battle, and the third was reluctantly to someone suffering from TheCorruption - he would have preferred to try to find a cure but honored his final wish anyway.

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** (C) Mega-Sword Mega-Swordd is actually a TerrorHero who tries to /minimize/ the killing he does pragmatically and even then the sheer overkill means it is [[MercyKill a quick and painless, if messy death]]. He has actually killed only three people: the first was about to kill a hostage, the second a mind controller of a slave army caught in battle, and the third was reluctantly to someone suffering from TheCorruption - he would have preferred to try to find a cure but honored his final wish anyway.


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** (C) On the other hand, Mega-Swordd is also [[TheCynic deeply cynical]] and [[OpportunisticBastard very opportunistic]] for a superhero - he often refuses to give the benefit of the doubt [[ReformedButRejected to villains who are trying to reform]] and scoffs at [[WellIntentionedExtremist genuinely well-intentioned ones]] as hypocrites, shills shamelessly for InUniverse [[TheMerch merchandise deals]], and frequently takes advantage of his fellow supers to get things done for himself.

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** (C) Mega-Sword is actually a TerrorHero who tries to /minimize/ the killing he does pragmatically and even then the sheer overkill means it is [[MercyKill a quick and painless, if messy death]]. He has actually killed only three people: the first was about to kill a hostage, the second a mind controller of a slave army caught in battle, and the third was reluctantly to someone suffering from TheCorruption - he would have preferred to try to find a cure but honored his final wish anyway.



* '''Zig Zagged''': ???

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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Mega-Swordd is a SuperPoweredEvilSide of ActualPacifist of [[MessianicArchetype Jeschon]], a slender and saintly and forgiving figure who tries to keep Mega-swordd in check and reform others at all cost.
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** Mega-Swordd is TheComicallySerious.
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** "Mega-Swordd is a young man who is on a journey of GORE! GORE! BLOOD! [[FanService TITTIES!]] GORE! RIDUCULOUSLY BADASS WEAPONS! YOU SEE THAT GIANT DEMON OVER THERE!? NO YOU DIDN'T, BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING DEAD! [[{{Gorn}} BLOOOOOOOOOOD, GOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE!!!]]"

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** "Mega-Swordd is a young man who is on a journey of GORE! GORE! BLOOD! [[FanService TITTIES!]] GORE! RIDUCULOUSLY RIDICULOUSLY BADASS WEAPONS! YOU SEE THAT GIANT DEMON OVER THERE!? NO YOU DIDN'T, BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING DEAD! [[{{Gorn}} BLOOOOOOOOOOD, GOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE!!!]]"
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** Mega-Swordd lives in such an [[CrapSackWorld undeniably bad place]] where [[Manga/{{Berserk}} an evil god or god-like being and his enforcers are free to exploit, kill, and/or rape whoever they please with little to no concern for reprisal]] or [[Manga/BlackLagoon lawlessness and constant fights between rival criminal organizations are the norm]] that using brutal and fatal methods are the only way he (and whatever companions he has) can survive.

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** Mega-Swordd lives in such an [[CrapSackWorld [[CrapsackWorld undeniably bad place]] where [[Manga/{{Berserk}} an evil god or god-like being and his enforcers are free to exploit, kill, and/or rape whoever they please with little to no concern for reprisal]] or [[Manga/BlackLagoon lawlessness and constant fights between rival criminal organizations are the norm]] that using brutal and fatal methods are the only way he (and whatever companions he has) can survive.
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** (A) Mega-Swordd ''looks'' like a nineties anti-hero, and acts like one ''initially,'' but when the fight is over and the villain [[GenreSavvy prepares to die]], Mega-Swordd proves to be TheCape, and [[ThouShaltNotKill throws them in prison.]]

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** (A) Mega-Swordd ''looks'' like a nineties anti-hero, and acts like one ''initially,'' but when the fight is over and the villain [[GenreSavvy prepares to die]], die, Mega-Swordd proves to be TheCape, and [[ThouShaltNotKill throws them in prison.]]
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'''Basic Trope''': The [[DarkerAndEdgier grim and gritty]] anti-hero characters popular in superhero comics of the 1990's.

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'''Basic Trope''': The over-the-top [[DarkerAndEdgier grim and gritty]] anti-hero characters very popular in superhero comics of the 1990's.
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'''Basic Trope''': The grim and gritty fighting characters popular in superhero comics of the nineteen nineties.

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'''Basic Trope''': The [[DarkerAndEdgier grim and gritty fighting gritty]] anti-hero characters popular in superhero comics of the nineteen nineties.1990's.

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** (A) He only throws traditional villains in prison. Complete monsters are so evil that they set off his BerserkButton, and he hacks them down brutally to prevent them from slaughtering innocents.\\
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Bonus points if he also {{Lampshade|Hanging}}s and {{Justifie|dTrope}}s the act by explaining that the Nineties Anti-Hero method is the only way to take {{Complete Monster}}s off the streets.

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** (A) He only throws traditional villains in prison. Complete monsters are so evil that they set off his BerserkButton, and he hacks them down brutally to prevent them from slaughtering innocents.\\
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Bonus points if he also {{Lampshade|Hanging}}s and {{Justifie|dTrope}}s the act by explaining that the Nineties Anti-Hero method is the only way to take {{Complete Monster}}s complete monsters off the streets.



* '''Parodied''': Mega-Swordd has so much muscle mass that he cannot function effectively, and can barely move his arms, let alone wield his weapon. Villains that he challenges feel so sorry for him that they fake their own gruesome deaths to make him feel better.

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Mega-Swordd has so much muscle mass that he cannot function effectively, and can barely move his arms, let alone wield his weapon. Villains that he challenges feel so sorry for him that they fake their own gruesome deaths to make him feel better.better.
** Mega-Swordd acts like a Nineties Anti-Hero to make a fashion statement. He can pick out a perfect combination of [[TooManyBelts pouches, belts]], and [[ShouldersOfDoom shoulder pads]] for hours on end, [[MusclesAreMeaningful follows a weightlifter diet and excercises rigorously]] to keep his improbable musculature in shape, [[GadgeteerGenius personally designs his weapons to be as deadly and over-the-top as possible]], and has whole books on history and morality of [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned extremism]] and proper delivery of [[OneLiner snappy one-liners]] in his study.

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* '''Implied''': The time of Nineties Anti-Heroes is a thing of the past in the story and never shown, but looked upon as a [[TheDarkTimes literal]] [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] by the characters from the present, and Mega-Swordd [[NeverLiveItDown has an undying reputation]] as a textbook example of one such "hero".



* '''Played For Drama''':
** Mega-Swordd is an anti-hero operating in a normal, half-decent world - but he comes from a terrible, hopeless WretchedHive, where MightMakesRight and trying to help people [[WideEyedIdealist without having the firepower]] to back up your actions [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished will get you killed by the people who routinely prey on the weak]]. His LoveInterest and TrueCompanions keep trying to show him that not every place in the world is as horrible as the one he comes from, but it's difficult for anyone to overcome a lifetime of horror, and Mega-Swordd's [[CharacterDevelopment entire character arc]] is about his worldview [[TookALevelInIdealism slowly changing for the better through a great deal of effort]].
** The world of the story used to be a much better place, with many [[TheCape idealistic superheroes]] protecting it - but after a [[AlienInvasion massive invasion]] of ScaryDogmaticAliens and a [[GreatOffscreenWar long, bloody war]] for the survival of humanity, it became an AfterTheEnd CrapsackWorld where only the Nineties Anti-Heroes survived to protect humanity from supervillains and interstellar threats. Mega-Swordd and others like him [[KnightInSourArmor do their best to protect what's left of Earth]], but they understand they will never be able to be as heroic as their pre-War counterparts.



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** Mega-Swordd's "gritty action hero" thing tends to quickly come apart when he's not in action, revealing him to be a neurotic, socially awkward IdiotHero whose chief concern with mundane activities is whether or not they're "badass".

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** Mega-Swordd's "gritty action hero" thing tends to quickly come apart when he's not in action, revealing him to be a neurotic, socially awkward IdiotHero whose chief concern with mundane activities is whether or not they're "badass".[[MundaneMadeAwesome "badass"]].
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** The writers are [[NostalgiaFilter big fans of the 90s]] as well as comic books.

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** The writers are [[NostalgiaFilter big fans big]] [[SoBadItsGood fans]] of the 90s]] 90s as well as comic books.


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** Mega-Swordd's "gritty action hero" thing tends to quickly come apart when he's not in action, revealing him to be a neurotic, socially awkward IdiotHero whose chief concern with mundane activities is whether or not they're "badass".
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** Mega-Swordd doesn't care about being a hero, but continues to fight off the villains anyways.

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