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** Dave is a VillainWithGoodPublicity who kept his wicked deeds under wraps, until his death when people find out just how bad he is.
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** When Dave discovers he is dying writes various final statements to be read to certain individuals, and chooses to use kind words even to the people that he never liked, despite knowing that he could insult people who are unable to reply.
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** When Dave discovers he is dying writes various final statements to be read to certain individuals, and chooses to use kind words even to the people that he never liked, despite knowing that [[SpitefulWill he could insult people who are unable to reply.reply]].
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** Dave died under circumstances so tragic that no one thinks it's right to say bad things about him regardless of what he's done.
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** It turns out that [[StealthInsult those reminiscences]] were [[UnusualEuphemism passive-aggressive code words]] for Dave's misdeeds.
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** Dave was a generally pleasant person, but the shock and grief of the loss turns him into a larger then life figure.
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** When Dave discovers he is dying writes various final statements to be read to certain individuals, and chooses to use kind words even to the people that he never liked.
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** When Dave discovers he is dying writes various final statements to be read to certain individuals, and chooses to use kind words even to the people that he never liked.liked, despite knowing that he could insult people who are unable to reply.
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** Why should Dave's political opponents criticize his policies after his death? It'll only make them look petty, and it's not like he's alive to enact them anyway.
* '''Inverted''': Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- [[SpeakIllOfTheDead which they of course do]].
* '''Inverted''': Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- [[SpeakIllOfTheDead which they of course do]].
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** Why should Dave's political opponents criticize his policies after his death? death. It'll only make them look petty, and it's not like he's alive to enact them anyway.
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** Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- [[SpeakIllOfTheDead which they of coursedo]].do]].
** When Dave discovers he is dying writes various final statements to be read to certain individuals, and chooses to use kind words even to the people that he never liked.
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** Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- [[SpeakIllOfTheDead which they of course
** When Dave discovers he is dying writes various final statements to be read to certain individuals, and chooses to use kind words even to the people that he never liked.
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* '''Inverted''': Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- which they of course do.
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* '''Inverted''': Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- [[SpeakIllOfTheDead which they of course do.do]].
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** Dave is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. The characters attending his funeral focus on the "heart of gold" part.
** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy and don't say anything about his policies.
** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy and don't say anything about his policies.
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** Dave is was a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. The characters attending his funeral focus on the "heart of gold" part.
** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy anddon't say anything stop talking about his policies.
** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy and
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** Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. Then someone kills him, and everyone starts reminiscing about the good times they spent with him. It later turns out that everyone faked grief in an attempt to avoid being accused by the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates little old lady]] who's trying to solve the mystery of WhoMurderedTheAsshole
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** Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. Then someone kills him, and everyone starts reminiscing about the good times they spent with him. It Everyone later turns out admits that everyone they faked their grief in an attempt to avoid being accused suspected by the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates little {{little old lady]] lady|Investigates}} who's trying to solve the mystery of WhoMurderedTheAsshole
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Dave is a divisive politician. When he dies, some of his political opponents stop criticizing him, while others outright [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing celebrate his death]].
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Dave is a divisive politician. When he dies, some of his political opponents stop criticizing praise him, while others don't say anything or outright [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing celebrate his death]].
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* '''Discussed''': "Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. We'd better expose him now in case [[TooDumbToLive his idiocy gets him killed]] and some idiot decides Dave is suddenly exempt from criticism."
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* '''Discussed''': "Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. We'd better expose him now in case [[TooDumbToLive his idiocy stupidity gets him killed]] and some idiot decides Dave idiots decide he's is suddenly exempt from criticism."
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* '''Deconstructed''': President Dave is a CorruptPolitician who dies during the investigation. The investigation is stopped out of "respect for the dead", which leads to his co-conspirators going free and the country failing to learn from its mistakes, leading to someone even worse being elected the next time around.
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* '''Deconstructed''': President Dave is a CorruptPolitician who dies during the while he's under investigation. The investigation is stopped out of "respect for the dead", which leads to his co-conspirators going free and the country failing to learn from its mistakes, leading to mistakes. As a result, someone even worse being is elected the next time around.
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** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy and don't say anything about his policies. them.
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** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy and don't say anything about his policies. them.
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* '''Subverted''': Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. Then someone kills him, and everyone starts reminiscing about the good times they spent with him. It later turns out that everyone faked grief in an attempt to avoid being accused by the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates little old lady]] who's trying to solve the mystery of WhoMurderedTheAsshole
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. Then someone kills him, and everyone starts reminiscing about the good times they spent with him. It later turns out that everyone faked grief in an attempt to avoid being accused by the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates little old lady]] who's trying to solve the mystery of WhoMurderedTheAsshole
** The characters announce that they won't speak ill of Dave... because he was so awful that they're going to [[UnPerson pretend he never even existed]].
* '''Double Subverted''': Some of the characters really ''did'' miss Dave after all. They just kept it to themselves in case someone would judge them for it.
** Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. Then someone kills him, and everyone starts reminiscing about the good times they spent with him. It later turns out that everyone faked grief in an attempt to avoid being accused by the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates little old lady]] who's trying to solve the mystery of WhoMurderedTheAsshole
** The characters announce that they won't speak ill of Dave... because he was so awful that they're going to [[UnPerson pretend he never even existed]].
* '''Double Subverted''': Some of the characters really ''did'' miss Dave after all. They just kept it to themselves in case someone would judge them for it.
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* '''Enforced''': MoralGuardians force the writers to change the scene where the characters talk about how much of a jerk Dave was because it would "set a bad example for our children".
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* '''Enforced''': MoralGuardians force the writers to change the scene where the characters talk about how much of a jerk Dave was because it would "set "[[ThinkOfTheChildren set a bad example for our children".
children]]".
*'''Lampshaded''':
'''Lampshaded''': "Wow, Dave is really getting a free pass for his {{Jerkass}}ery now that he's dead."
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'''Invoked''': After Dave's death, his family starts shutting down criticism of him.
* '''Exploited''': Dave arranges an "accident" for himself in a last-ditch attempt to salvage his reputation.
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* '''Exploited''': Dave arranges an "accident" for himself in a last-ditch attempt to salvage his reputation.
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'''Discussed''': "Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. We'd better expose him now in case [[TooDumbToLive his idiocy gets him killed]] and some idiot decides Dave is suddenly exempt from criticism."
* '''Conversed''': "Come on, people of ''Yet Another Generic Made-Up Show''. Gushing about an abuser is just a huge disservice to his victims."
* '''Implied''': Dave is a minor side character who rarely shows up in the flesh, but is frequently called a stupid {{jerkass}} by the other characters... until Episode [[ThirteenIsUnlucky 13]], where he stops appearing altogether and the characters start talking about his positive qualities.
* '''Conversed''': "Come on, people of ''Yet Another Generic Made-Up Show''. Gushing about an abuser is just a huge disservice to his victims."
* '''Implied''': Dave is a minor side character who rarely shows up in the flesh, but is frequently called a stupid {{jerkass}} by the other characters... until Episode [[ThirteenIsUnlucky 13]], where he stops appearing altogether and the characters start talking about his positive qualities.
* '''Played For Laughs''': "Now that Dave's dead, I won't mention his alcoholism... or his laziness... or his constant lying... or how he has bullied pretty much everyone in this room..."
* '''Played For Drama''': Dave has [[DomesticAbuse abused]] and [[RapeAsDrama raped]] his girlfriend Nina. She has finally managed to escape and report him to the police... but then the idiot gets himself killed by [[DrunkDriver driving drunk]]. Not only will she never see him punished for his crimes, but she'll also have to endure everyone gushing about her abuser and risk being seen as impolite at best and slanderous at worst if she speaks up about it.
* '''Played For Drama''': Dave has [[DomesticAbuse abused]] and [[RapeAsDrama raped]] his girlfriend Nina. She has finally managed to escape and report him to the police... but then the idiot gets himself killed by [[DrunkDriver driving drunk]]. Not only will she never see him punished for his crimes, but she'll also have to endure everyone gushing about her abuser and risk being seen as impolite at best and slanderous at worst if she speaks up about it.
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'''Basic Trope''': The idea that you shouldn't insult the deceased.
* '''Straight''': Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. After he dies, the other characters suddenly start reminiscing about the good times they spent with him.
* '''Exaggerated''': Dave is a PresidentEvil with a ZeroPercentApprovalRating. Even his own subordinates hate him and are only in it for the money and/or power. When he dies, everyone decides that ExcessiveMourning is an appropriate reaction.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Dave is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. The characters attending his funeral focus on the "heart of gold" part.
** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy and don't say anything about his policies. them.
* '''Justified''':
** The work takes place in a society where criticizing the dead is strongly frowned upon.
** Why should Dave's political opponents criticize his policies after his death? It'll only make them look petty, and it's not like he's alive to enact them anyway.
* '''Inverted''': Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- which they of course do.
* '''Subverted''': Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. Then someone kills him, and everyone starts reminiscing about the good times they spent with him. It later turns out that everyone faked grief in an attempt to avoid being accused by the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates little old lady]] who's trying to solve the mystery of WhoMurderedTheAsshole
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* '''Parodied''': Every "compliment" in the eulogy is a blatant case of DamnedByFaintPraise.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Dave is a divisive politician. When he dies, some of his political opponents stop criticizing him, while others outright [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing celebrate his death]].
* '''Averted''': [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Dave's death doesn't stop anyone from talking about what a huge jerk he was]].
* '''Enforced''': MoralGuardians force the writers to change the scene where the characters talk about how much of a jerk Dave was because it would "set a bad example for our children".
* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''':
* '''Exploited''':
* '''Defied''': "I don't care that Dave's dead. If he didn't want to be criticized, he shouldn't have acted like that when he was alive."
* '''Discussed''':
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Deconstructed''': President Dave is a CorruptPolitician who dies during the investigation. The investigation is stopped out of "respect for the dead", which leads to his co-conspirators going free and the country failing to learn from its mistakes, leading to someone even worse being elected the next time around.
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* '''Straight''': Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. After he dies, the other characters suddenly start reminiscing about the good times they spent with him.
* '''Exaggerated''': Dave is a PresidentEvil with a ZeroPercentApprovalRating. Even his own subordinates hate him and are only in it for the money and/or power. When he dies, everyone decides that ExcessiveMourning is an appropriate reaction.
* '''Downplayed''':
** Dave is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. The characters attending his funeral focus on the "heart of gold" part.
** President Dave is not a bad guy, but his politics are divisive. After he dies, his political opponents praise him for being a NiceGuy and don't say anything about his policies. them.
* '''Justified''':
** The work takes place in a society where criticizing the dead is strongly frowned upon.
** Why should Dave's political opponents criticize his policies after his death? It'll only make them look petty, and it's not like he's alive to enact them anyway.
* '''Inverted''': Dave is a cruel control freak who prevents everyone from speaking out about him. When he dies, they're finally free to talk about how awful he was -- which they of course do.
* '''Subverted''': Dave is a total {{Jerkass}}. Then someone kills him, and everyone starts reminiscing about the good times they spent with him. It later turns out that everyone faked grief in an attempt to avoid being accused by the [[LittleOldLadyInvestigates little old lady]] who's trying to solve the mystery of WhoMurderedTheAsshole
* '''Double Subverted''':
* '''Parodied''': Every "compliment" in the eulogy is a blatant case of DamnedByFaintPraise.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Dave is a divisive politician. When he dies, some of his political opponents stop criticizing him, while others outright [[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing celebrate his death]].
* '''Averted''': [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Dave's death doesn't stop anyone from talking about what a huge jerk he was]].
* '''Enforced''': MoralGuardians force the writers to change the scene where the characters talk about how much of a jerk Dave was because it would "set a bad example for our children".
* '''Lampshaded''':
* '''Invoked''':
* '''Exploited''':
* '''Defied''': "I don't care that Dave's dead. If he didn't want to be criticized, he shouldn't have acted like that when he was alive."
* '''Discussed''':
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Deconstructed''': President Dave is a CorruptPolitician who dies during the investigation. The investigation is stopped out of "respect for the dead", which leads to his co-conspirators going free and the country failing to learn from its mistakes, leading to someone even worse being elected the next time around.
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