History PlayingWith / NeverASelfMadeWoman

30th Mar '18 12:18:22 PM SteelEdge
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** Maureen would never had become a fighter had her father Bruno not [[StuffedInTheFridge died and drove her to revenge]].
19th Mar '18 12:49:04 PM SteelEdge
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** Maureen is the protagonist of a JackieRobinsonStory. There were no female teachers.
** Maureen is a professional in a field that requires a teacher. Her teacher happened to be male.



** Maureen starts out as 'Bruno's student,' but makes a name for herself as her own person.



* '''Parodied''': Maureen's father and boyfriend are both incompetent idiots who accidentally teach Maureen several moves, yet she still have them to thank for.

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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
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Maureen's father and boyfriend are both incompetent idiots who accidentally teach Maureen several moves, yet she still have them to thank for.for.
** Maureen and Bruno are both black belts in the same dojo. Their teacher says that Bruno owes his skills to his own hard work, and Maureen owes her skills to her teacher.
** Maureen learned GoodOldFisticuffs on the street. Her detractors say that she couldn't have been strong without all the men in her life fighting her.
17th Mar '18 9:52:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* '''Subverted''': Maureen is very GenreSavvy and knows all to well that NoGuyWantsAnAmazon. Hence, she makes believe that she got into the business thanks to parental pressure. But in actuality, she chose that lifestyle herself, without using any connections to get to her current position.

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* '''Subverted''': Maureen is very GenreSavvy and knows all to well that NoGuyWantsAnAmazon. Hence, she makes believe that she got into the business thanks to parental pressure. But in actuality, she chose that lifestyle herself, without using any connections to get to her current position.
3rd Feb '18 1:56:58 PM Xtifr
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* '''Exploited''': "Don't worry [[TheGoodChancellor Chancellor Bob.]] Every haughty FeudalOverlord in TheKingdom will think [[DaddysGirl my girl]] Alice just got [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask the throne]] because I have no sons. She'll eat them all alive while they are [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimating her.]]"

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* '''Exploited''': "Don't worry [[TheGoodChancellor Chancellor Bob.]] Every haughty FeudalOverlord in TheKingdom the Kingdom will think [[DaddysGirl my girl]] Alice just got [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask the throne]] because I have no sons. She'll eat them all alive while they are [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimating her.]]"
12th Dec '17 6:47:55 PM AgentKyles
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** BehindEveryGreatMan
* '''GenderFlipped''': Tobias, an ActionHero, honed his fighting skills and survival techniques thanks to [[MamaBear his]] [[ActionMom mother]] who trained him from childhood.

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** BehindEveryGreatMan
* '''GenderFlipped''': Tobias, an ActionHero, honed his fighting skills and survival techniques thanks to [[MamaBear his]] [[ActionMom mother]] [[BehindEveryGreatMan who trained him from childhood.childhood]].
12th Dec '17 6:45:44 PM AgentKyles
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** BehindEveryGreatMan



* '''Averted'''

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* '''Averted''''''Averted''':
8th Jun '17 11:21:32 AM AgentKyles
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* '''Conversed''': "And out of nowhere comes Maureen saying she owes it all to her father, even though her mother is standing right there! What the hell is that thing that affects Hollywood scriptwriting?? Hidden misogyny, old age, [[BigWhat OR WHAT]]?!"

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* '''Conversed''': "And out of nowhere comes Maureen saying she owes it all to her father, even though her mother is standing right there! What the hell is that thing that affects Hollywood scriptwriting?? Hidden misogyny, old age, [[SocietyMarchesOn outdated values]], [[BigWhat OR WHAT]]?!"
8th Jun '17 11:15:13 AM AgentKyles
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** Maureen is a [[WastelandElder clan diplomat, arbitrator,]] [[GrandeDame matchmaker or similar office,]] in a [[TheClan tribal society]] ''Of course'' her success comes from family. Family is her ''job.'' But she would not have had the job if she had not impressed people with her intelligence and wisdom.

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** Maureen is a [[WastelandElder clan diplomat, arbitrator,]] [[GrandeDame matchmaker or similar office,]] in a [[TheClan tribal society]] ''Of society]], so ''of course'' her success comes from family. Family is her ''job.'' But she would not have had the job if she had not impressed people with her intelligence and wisdom.



* '''Lampshaded''': "Maureen, honey, don't fool yourself. Without your dad and your man, you're pretty much useless."

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Maureen, honey, don't fool yourself. Without your dad and your man, you're pretty much useless.a nobody."



* '''Conversed''': "And out of nowhere comes Maureen saying she owes it all to her father, even though her mother is standing right. there. I hate Hollywood scriptwriting."

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* '''Conversed''': "And out of nowhere comes Maureen saying she owes it all to her father, even though her mother is standing right. there. I hate right there! What the hell is that thing that affects Hollywood scriptwriting."scriptwriting?? Hidden misogyny, old age, [[BigWhat OR WHAT]]?!"



** Maureen feels OvershadowedByAwesome by her father, and eventually quits or joins the villains in order to step out of his shadow.

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** Maureen feels OvershadowedByAwesome by her father, and eventually quits or even [[GoodGirlGoneBad joins the villains villains]] [[IJustWantToBeSpecial in order to step out of his shadow.shadow]].



** ...and then it is revealed that it's not her father who taught her but her mother.

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** ...and then it is revealed that it's not her father who taught her but [[ActionMom her mother.mother]].
8th Jun '17 10:52:20 AM AgentKyles
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** [[TheChewtoy Alice]] ''would'' be very powerful... if it weren't for her father and boyfriend, who have (intentionally or not) torpedoed her every chance of making something of herself.
* '''GenderFlipped''': Tobias, an ActionHero, honed his fighting skills and survival techniques thanks to his mother who trained him from childhood.

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** [[TheChewtoy Alice]] ''would'' be very powerful... if it weren't for her father and boyfriend, who have (intentionally ([[StayInTheKitchen intentionally]] or not) torpedoed her every chance of making something of herself.
* '''GenderFlipped''': Tobias, an ActionHero, honed his fighting skills and survival techniques thanks to his mother [[MamaBear his]] [[ActionMom mother]] who trained him from childhood.
15th Jan '16 1:45:37 PM Anddrix
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** "[[ViewersAreMorons Male viewers/readers]] [[NoGuyWantsAnAmazon always feel threatened by strong female characters]]. Make Maureen's father and husband stronger and better than she is, else she will never appeal to the male audience."

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** "[[ViewersAreMorons Male viewers/readers]] "Male viewers/readers [[NoGuyWantsAnAmazon always feel threatened by strong female characters]]. Make Maureen's father and husband stronger and better than she is, else she will never appeal to the male audience."
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