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** Alice can paint it however she wants, maybe objectively she has brought greater good, but she still did (and/or is still doing) evil acts and someone, somewhere (especially if they are collateral damage) is well justified to call her reasoning B.S.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who assumes the villain's role out of necessity, usually to prevent the EvilPowerVacuum or to counter a greater kind of evil, like some sort of GreaterScopeVillain from returning.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who assumes the villain's role out of necessity, usually to prevent the EvilPowerVacuum or to counter a [[GreaterScopeVillain greater kind of evil, like evil]]. Like some sort of GreaterScopeVillain from returning.EldritchAbomination... or a [[SealedEvilInACan Sealed Evil]] [[EvilGod God]].
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who assumes the villain's role out of necessity, usually to prevent the EvilPowerVacuum or to counter a greater kind of evil.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who assumes the villain's role out of necessity, usually to prevent the EvilPowerVacuum or to counter a greater kind of evil.evil, like some sort of GreaterScopeVillain from returning.
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** Alice finally overthrows Bob but not only does she do actions that make her just as evil as he was, but it conveys the ''highly'' FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that only evil can beat evil, which results in a never-ending cycle of evil dictators ruling by whim and being overthrown again and again and ultimately, nothing ever actually changes.
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** Alice finally overthrows Bob but not only does she do actions that make her just as evil as he was, but it conveys the ''highly'' FamilyUnfriendlyAesop lesson that only evil can beat evil, which results in a never-ending cycle of evil dictators ruling by whim and being overthrown again and again and ultimately, nothing ever actually changes.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who assumes the villain's role out of necessity. Usually to prevent the EvilPowerVacuum or to counter a greater kind of evil.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who assumes the villain's role out of necessity. Usually necessity, usually to prevent the EvilPowerVacuum or to counter a greater kind of evil.
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** CruelToBeKind - Alice acts like a cruel, callous jerkass to her friends, but this is because [[HiddenHeartOfGold she doesn't want them to get hurt]].
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** CruelToBeKind - -- Alice acts like a cruel, callous jerkass JerkAss to her friends, but this is because [[HiddenHeartOfGold she doesn't want them to get hurt]].
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* '''Double Subverted''': But only because she's BecomingTheMask. She started out good, but became hardened, cynical and possibly even crazy by years of doing bad things.
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* '''Double Subverted''': But only because she's BecomingTheMask. She started out good, but [[TookALevelInCynic became hardened, cynical cynical, and possibly even crazy crazy]] by years of doing bad things.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Alice is a big fan of IDidWhatIHadToDo; she indulges in evil actions if that's what it takes in a particular situation, but is equally willing to do good things when she thinks that will help. Sometimes she makes mistakes and acts the opposite of the useful way because she thinks it's necessary.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice is a big fan of IDidWhatIHadToDo; she indulges in evil actions if that's what it takes in a particular given situation, but is equally willing to do good things when she thinks that will help. Sometimes she makes mistakes and acts the opposite of the useful way because she thinks it's necessary.
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* '''Exploited''': Emperor Evulz knows Alice will reluctantly stoop to necessary evil to stop him, and when she does broadcasts it to the whole world, turning her into a HeroWithBadPublicity.
* '''Defied''': Alice refuses to do anything evil to stop Bob as she knows it won't actually change the problem with the system, it'll just replace one dictator with another.
* '''Discussed''': The General Bob ponders with another General on whether or not they should overthrow a corrupt or Fascist, but Inefficient monarch, considering the theoretical improvements in the country and the probable political unstability.
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice finally overthrows Bob but not only does she do actions that make her just as evil as him, but it sends out a message that only evil can beat evil, which results in a never ending cycle of evil dictators being overthrown again and again and ultimately, nothing ever actually changes.
* '''Defied''': Alice refuses to do anything evil to stop Bob as she knows it won't actually change the problem with the system, it'll just replace one dictator with another.
* '''Discussed''': The General Bob ponders with another General on whether or not they should overthrow a corrupt or Fascist, but Inefficient monarch, considering the theoretical improvements in the country and the probable political unstability.
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice finally overthrows Bob but not only does she do actions that make her just as evil as him, but it sends out a message that only evil can beat evil, which results in a never ending cycle of evil dictators being overthrown again and again and ultimately, nothing ever actually changes.
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* '''Exploited''': Emperor Evulz knows Alice will reluctantly stoop to necessary evil to stop him, and when she does he broadcasts it to the whole world, turning her into a HeroWithBadPublicity.
* '''Defied''': Alice refuses to do anything evil to stop Bob as she knows it won't actually change [[InherentInTheSystem theproblem problem(s) with the system, system]], it'll just replace one dictator with another.
* '''Discussed''':The General Bob ponders with another General on a colleague whether or not they should overthrow a corrupt or Fascist, but Inefficient FascistButInefficient monarch, considering the theoretical improvements in the country and the probable political unstability.
instability.
* '''Conversed''':???
"Oh, and I was hoping Alice would return to being the AllLovingHero after she became leader of Troperia." "It was more common and probable for her to get DrunkWithPower even while she was just leader of LaResistance." "Maybe, but that doesn't mean I have to like that change to her character."
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'''Deconstructed''':
** Alice finally overthrows Bob but not only does she do actions that make her just as evil ashim, he was, but it sends out a message conveys the ''highly'' FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that only evil can beat evil, which results in a never ending never-ending cycle of evil dictators ruling by whim and being overthrown again and again and ultimately, nothing ever actually changes.
* '''Defied''': Alice refuses to do anything evil to stop Bob as she knows it won't actually change [[InherentInTheSystem the
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** Alice finally overthrows Bob but not only does she do actions that make her just as evil as
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'''Reconstructed''': Alice realizes that the necessity of the evil doesn't negate the evilness of it, and once Bob is overthrown, she accepts her fate and turns herself in once a stable new regime is formed.
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%%* '''PlayedFor for Drama''': ???
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** Because Alice knows that what she's doing is evil, [[TragicVillain she wants to find her way out of villainy, but can't forgive herself and therefore thinks she doesn't deserve redemption.]]
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** Because Alice knows that what she's doing is evil, [[TragicVillain she wants to find her way out of villainy, but can't forgive herself and therefore thinks she doesn't deserve redemption.]]becomes TrappedInVillainy.
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** Because Alice knows that what she's doing is evil, [[Tragic Villain she wants to find her way out of villainy, but can't forgive herself and therefore thinks she doesn't deserve redemption.]]
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** Because Alice knows that what she's doing is evil, [[Tragic Villain [[TragicVillain she wants to find her way out of villainy, but can't forgive herself and therefore thinks she doesn't deserve redemption.]]
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* '''Reconstructed''': Alice realizes that the necessity of the evil doesn't negate the evilness of it, and once Bob is overthrown, she accepts her fate and turns herself in once a stable new regime is formed.
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'''Reconstructed''': Alice realizes that the necessity of the evil doesn't negate the evilness of it, and once Bob is overthrown, she accepts her fate and turns herself in once a stable new regime is formed.
