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* '''Justified''': The Frib were [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke created specifically to destroy humanity]].
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** The Frib were [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke created specifically to destroy humanity]].
** The Frib were [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke created specifically to destroy humanity]].
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** The Frib are so [[StarfishAliens so bizarre and incomprehensible]] that any form of peace or agreement is impossible. Their [[BlueAndOrangeMorality morality]], [[BizarreAlienBiology biology]], and [[AlwaysChaoticEvil psychology]] is incompatible with our own. [[HumansThroughAlienEyes They feel the same way about us]].
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** ...but still, just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], doesn't mean the [[TheEmpire Frib Empire]] isn't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** ...but still, just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], evil]] monsters, doesn't mean the [[TheEmpire Frib Empire]] isn't evil either.much better. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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* '''Invoked''': Evulz creates the Frib specifically to try to relentless to kill the [[PerfectPacifistPeople The Pax]] knowing they'd fail if they'd resist. Previous attempts with TheUndead failed as they had no qualms with destroying them. [[ProudWarrorRace The Grox]] killed a third of them before [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feeling guilty]] [[HeelFaceTurn and joining them]] after likewise [[TheAtoner choosing to throw themselves in front of weapons rather than kill again]]. Either they'd be corrupted to something more exploitable or they would allow themselves to be wiped out.
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* '''Invoked''': Evulz creates the Frib specifically to try to relentless to kill the [[PerfectPacifistPeople The Pax]] knowing they'd fail if they'd resist. Previous attempts with TheUndead failed as they had no qualms with destroying them. [[ProudWarrorRace [[ProudWarriorRace The Grox]] killed a third of them before [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feeling guilty]] [[HeelFaceTurn and joining them]] after likewise [[TheAtoner choosing to throw themselves in front of weapons rather than kill again]]. Either they'd be corrupted to something more exploitable or they would allow themselves to be wiped out.
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** ...but still, just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], doesn't mean the Frib aren't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** ...but still, just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], doesn't mean the [[TheEmpire Frib aren't Empire]] isn't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for people hiding Frib in their attics? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's with all this talk these rumors about a SecretPolice going around looking for people hiding Frib in their attics? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for people hiding Frib in their attics? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for people hiding Frib in their attics? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib hiding in people's attics? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib people hiding Frib in people's their attics? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? hiding in people's attics? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib id initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib id is initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a heroic light, but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity and its war against the Frib id initially is portrayed in a [[BlackAndWhiteMorality purely heroic light, light]], but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a sympathetic light, but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a sympathetic heroic light, but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** ...but still just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], doesn't mean the Frib aren't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** ...but still still, just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], doesn't mean the Frib aren't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** ...but just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], doesn't mean the Frib aren't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** ...but still just because the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName are evil]], doesn't mean the Frib aren't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a sympathetic light, while the Frib seem like the evil ones. But then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a sympathetic light, while the Frib seem like the evil ones. But but then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters Oh no...]]''
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a sympathetic light, while the Frib seem like the evil ones. But then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters oh no...]]''
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a sympathetic light, while the Frib seem like the evil ones. But then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters oh Oh no...]]''
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** ...but the Frib are still worse than humanity in most regards, so fighting for the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Human Federation]] is still the LesserOfTwoEvils.
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** ...but just because the Frib are still worse than humanity in most regards, so fighting for the humans [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Human Federation]] is still are evil]], doesn't mean the LesserOfTwoEvils.Frib aren't evil either. In fact, the humans are the [[LesserOfTwoEvils least worse of the two]].
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** Humanity initially is portrayed in a sympathetic light, while the Frib seem like the evil ones. But then... wait a minute... why are the humans wearing [[PuttingOnTheReich wearing all these weird uniforms?]] And what's all this talk about a SecretPolice going around looking for Frib sympathizers? [[HeelRealization Oh.]] ''[[HumansAreTheRealMonsters oh no...]]''
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** ...but the Frib are still worse than humanity in most regards, so fighting for the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Human Federation]] is still the LesserOfTwoEvils.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???DependingOnTheWriter, the Frib may or may not be totally evil and need to be destroyed.
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* '''Exploited''': ???Evulz manages to turn TheFederation against humans by pointing out they killed the Frib.
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** Humans are left disgusted that they must band with the Frib to survive despite their completely abhorrent morals.
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* '''Invoked''': ???Evulz creates the Frib specifically to try to relentless to kill the [[PerfectPacifistPeople The Pax]] knowing they'd fail if they'd resist. Previous attempts with TheUndead failed as they had no qualms with destroying them. [[ProudWarrorRace The Grox]] killed a third of them before [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone feeling guilty]] [[HeelFaceTurn and joining them]] after likewise [[TheAtoner choosing to throw themselves in front of weapons rather than kill again]]. Either they'd be corrupted to something more exploitable or they would allow themselves to be wiped out.
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** It seems like total extermination is necessary, until a DefectorFromDecadence shows up and asks for humanity to stop their outright genocide, and to instead help the defector overthrow his own genocidal government so there can be peace.
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** ...but the defector's enemy is a MasterRace that ''does'' have to be wiped out and will not negotiate so the SlaveRace the defector is from can be free.
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* '''Deconstructed''': The Frib civilization nearly collapses because they are too focused on such a difficult and impractical goal.
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** The Frib civilization nearly collapses because they are too focused on such a difficult and impracticalgoal.goal.
** Such a war is still ''genocide'' and carries a plethora of moral dilemmas alongside it. Sure, maybe most of the Frib are irredeemably evil, but what about the inevitable MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch? Should they be put on the chopping block, too, just for being Frib? For that matter, can you even be sure you've spared them all if the answer is "no"? And what about GenocideBackfire and things like that? There's so many ways it could turn worse that it's almost certainly not guilt-free anymore.
** The Frib civilization nearly collapses because they are too focused on such a difficult and impractical
** Such a war is still ''genocide'' and carries a plethora of moral dilemmas alongside it. Sure, maybe most of the Frib are irredeemably evil, but what about the inevitable MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch? Should they be put on the chopping block, too, just for being Frib? For that matter, can you even be sure you've spared them all if the answer is "no"? And what about GenocideBackfire and things like that? There's so many ways it could turn worse that it's almost certainly not guilt-free anymore.
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* '''Exaggerated''': ???The Frib legitimately explode around humans, so their homes must be nuked into nothingness, and not a single human seems to find problems with it.
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* '''Discussed''': ???
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* '''Discussed''': ???"Some species you can reason with, sit down and work out a peace and live together. [[ScaryDogmaticAliens The Frib]] [[WellThisIsNotThatTrope aren't like that.]]"
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* '''Subverted''': The Frib and humanity both [[PoorCommunicationKills badly misunderstand each other]]. Once lines of communication are opened, the war ends quickly.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': ...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** The Frib and humanity both [[PoorCommunicationKills badly misunderstand each other]]. Once lines of communication are opened, the war ends quickly.
** Humanity exterminates the Frib without a second thought. Years later, when they're not in any danger, they begin to romanticize the Frib, and demonize the leaders responsible for their destruction, believing that a peaceful solution could have been found.
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** ...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.
** ...that is, until the Frib come back somehow. All pro-Frib sentiment instantly disappears, and another extermination war ensues.
* '''Parodied''':???Coexistence with the Frib is impossible because they are extremely annoying; [[DisproportionateRetribution they must be exterminated for humanity to finally get a good night's sleep]].
** The Frib and humanity both [[PoorCommunicationKills badly misunderstand each other]]. Once lines of communication are opened, the war ends quickly.
** Humanity exterminates the Frib without a second thought. Years later, when they're not in any danger, they begin to romanticize the Frib, and demonize the leaders responsible for their destruction, believing that a peaceful solution could have been found.
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** ...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.
** ...that is, until the Frib come back somehow. All pro-Frib sentiment instantly disappears, and another extermination war ensues.
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* '''Averted''': ???Humanity and the Frib get involved in a nasty war, but manage to resolve things diplomatically and live in peace.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"Are we really gonna have to kill ''all'' of these things?
* '''Implied''': Human historical records casually mention a race called the Frib that was exterminated by humanity; no one seems to be bothered by this incident at all.
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* '''Strait''': The Frib are obsessively dedicated to the extermination of humanity, and must be wiped out to keep them from succeeding.
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* '''Strait''': '''Straight''': The Frib are obsessively dedicated to the extermination of humanity, and must be wiped out to keep them from succeeding.
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* '''Justified''': The Frib were [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke created specifically to destroy humanity]]
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* '''Justified''': The Frib were [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke created specifically to destroy humanity]]
* '''Parodied''': ???humanity]].
* '''Parodied''': ???
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* '''Double Subverted''':...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.
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* '''Double Subverted''':...Subverted''': ...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.security.
* '''Parodied''': ???
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* '''Invoked''': ???
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...but the rest of the galactic civilization supports them, because they [[FantasticRacism consider]] [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer humanity]] to be a [[HumansAreBastards threat]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...but the rest of the galactic civilization supports them, because they [[FantasticRacism consider]] [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer humanity]] to be a [[HumansAreBastards threat]].threat]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...but the rest of the galactic civilization supports them, because they [[FantasticRacism consider]] [[AllOfTheOtherRaindeer humanity]] to be a [[HumansAreBastards threat]].
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* '''Reconstructed''': ...but the rest of the galactic civilization supports them, because they [[FantasticRacism consider]] [[AllOfTheOtherRaindeer [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer humanity]] to be a [[HumansAreBastards threat]].
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* '''Conversed''': ??????
*'''Deconstructed''': The Frib civilization nearly collapses because they are too focused on such a difficult and impractical goal.
*'''Reconstructed''': ...but the rest of the galactic civilization supports them, because they [[FantasticRacism consider]] [[AllOfTheOtherRaindeer humanity]] to be a [[HumansAreBastards threat]].
*'''Deconstructed''': The Frib civilization nearly collapses because they are too focused on such a difficult and impractical goal.
*'''Reconstructed''': ...but the rest of the galactic civilization supports them, because they [[FantasticRacism consider]] [[AllOfTheOtherRaindeer humanity]] to be a [[HumansAreBastards threat]].
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'''Basic Trope''': It is impossible to coexist with the enemy, they must be exterminated for humanity to survive.
*'''Strait''': The Frib are obsessively dedicated to the extermination of humanity, and must be wiped out to keep them from succeeding.
*'''Exaggerated''': ???
*'''Downplayed''': The Frib cannot be negotiated with, but can be contained without exterminating them.
*'''Justified''': The Frib were [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke created specifically to destroy humanity]]
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Inverted''': The Frib are symbiotes that humans cannot live without.
*'''Subverted''': The Frib and humanity both [[PoorCommunicationKills badly misunderstand each other]]. Once lines of communication are opened, the war ends quickly.
*'''Double Subverted''':...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.
*'''Enforced''': The writers need to have a dangerous threat to humanity, but don't want to think much about ethics or the chance of a peaceful resolution.
*'''Defied''': Even though they are extremely dangerous, human scientists find a way to make the Frib lose interest in exterminating humanity.
*'''Discussed''': ???
*'''Conversed''': ???
*'''Strait''': The Frib are obsessively dedicated to the extermination of humanity, and must be wiped out to keep them from succeeding.
*'''Exaggerated''': ???
*'''Downplayed''': The Frib cannot be negotiated with, but can be contained without exterminating them.
*'''Justified''': The Frib were [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke created specifically to destroy humanity]]
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Inverted''': The Frib are symbiotes that humans cannot live without.
*'''Subverted''': The Frib and humanity both [[PoorCommunicationKills badly misunderstand each other]]. Once lines of communication are opened, the war ends quickly.
*'''Double Subverted''':...but this is just a ruse intended to lull humanity into a false sense of security.
*'''Enforced''': The writers need to have a dangerous threat to humanity, but don't want to think much about ethics or the chance of a peaceful resolution.
*'''Defied''': Even though they are extremely dangerous, human scientists find a way to make the Frib lose interest in exterminating humanity.
*'''Discussed''': ???
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