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* '''Exaggerated''': Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]]. [[DisproportionateRetribution He is immediately expelled from school and is sent to juvenile jail.]]
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]]. [[DisproportionateRetribution He is immediately expelled from school and is sent to juvenile jail.]]
** Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]]. [[DisproportionateRetribution He is immediately expelled from school and is sent to juvenile jail.]]
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** Alex gives Bob a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown and gets away with it, all because Bob threw the first punch.
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** When Alex is punished for fighting back against Bob, Alex's father shows up and gives the principal an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for tolerating bullies and punishing their victims. This causes the principal to pull a 180, expelling Bob and ending Alex's punishment.
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** When Alex is punished for fighting back against Bob, Bob's bullying, [[PapaWolf Alex's father father]] shows up and gives the principal an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for tolerating bullies and punishing their victims. This causes the principal to pull a 180, expelling Bob and ending Alex's punishment.
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** The (quite corrupt) teaching body is able to twist things so the students that leave and/or die are painted as {{Dirty Coward}}s or mentally disturbed and the bullying, if it cannot be completely denied, is painted as a minor link in the chain of events. Which leads to things not changing at all in the long term.
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** Alex has SuperStrength, while Bob is an ordinary human. Alex fighting back against Bob would thus constitute [[ComesGreatResponsibility an irresponsible use of his powers]] against someone significantly weaker than him.
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** After Alex is punished for defending himself, [[MamaBear his]] [[PapaWolf parents]] show up to deal with things.
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** Bob has bullied Alex & other students for far too long. [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown This causes Alex to beat up Bob to death.]] As a result, not only is Alex expelled from school, but he is immediately sentenced to death row & gets executed for murder.
** Bob gets beaten up by Alex for making his life a living hell. The very minute Bob starts crying, Alex feels lots of remorse & realizes he has become the one thing he hated. Getting in trouble with the school faculty is the least of his worries.
** Bob gets beaten up by Alex for making his life a living hell. The very minute Bob starts crying, Alex feels lots of remorse & realizes he has become the one thing he hated. Getting in trouble with the school faculty is the least of his worries.
** Alex fights back against Bob & is hailed as a hero by all of the students & teachers.
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* '''Implied''': Alex, a scrawny kid frequently seen with bruises and black eyes, is frequently suspended from fighting.
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* '''Implied''': Alex, a scrawny kid frequently seen with bruises and black eyes, is frequently suspended suspended/expelled from fighting."fighting".
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** Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself. And if that means [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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** Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself. And if that means [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the idiotic school system keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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** Alex refuses to defend himself against Bob, and is summarily beaten to death.
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** Alex refuses to defend himself against Bob, Bob out of fear or getting in trouble with the [[AdultsAreUseless very inept teachers]], and is summarily [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beaten to death.
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** Alex refuses to defend himself against Bob, and is summarily beaten to death.
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** Upon witnessing the school system in action, bullies eventually turn the school into their [[ToCreateAPlaygroundForEvil own hellhole]] without fear of consequences. The remaining students leave the establishment or even [[DrivenToSuicide end their lives]] to escape this nightmare. The horrible PR and decrease in student numbers forces the school to close down.
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** [[DisproportionateRetribution Bob was only using fisticuffs but Alex pulled a knife on him.]]
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** Fighting back is highly encouraged.
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** Fighting back is [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer highly encouraged.encouraged]].
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"He started it! Why am ''I'' being punished?"
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** Since the penalty for even blocking Bob's punches is the same as full out fighting back, Alex decides to simply [[CombatPragmatist go for broke]] and unleash a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown on Bob that lands him in the hospital.
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** Since the penalty for [[CrimeOfSelfDefense even blocking Bob's punches punches]] is the same as full out fighting back, Alex decides to simply [[CombatPragmatist go for broke]] and unleash a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown on Bob that lands him in the hospital.
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** Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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** Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and himself. And if that means [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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** Since the penalty for even blocking Bob's punches is the same as full out fighting back, Alex decides to simply [[CombatPragmatist go for broke]] and unleash a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown on Bob that lands him in the hospital.
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** Since the principal punishes Alex for fighting back against Bob, Alex decides to shift his revenge towards the principal.
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* '''Defied''': The school doesn't punish Alex for fighting back Bob.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** The school doesn't punish Alex for fighting backBob.Bob.
** When Alex is punished for fighting back against Bob, Alex's father shows up and gives the principal an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for tolerating bullies and punishing their victims. This causes the principal to pull a 180, expelling Bob and ending Alex's punishment.
** The school doesn't punish Alex for fighting back
** When Alex is punished for fighting back against Bob, Alex's father shows up and gives the principal an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech for tolerating bullies and punishing their victims. This causes the principal to pull a 180, expelling Bob and ending Alex's punishment.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so beit]].it]].
** Anyone who fights back against Bob is punished while [[KarmaHoudini Bob gets off scot-free]]. This encourages him to escalate his bullying to far worse levels.
** Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be
** Anyone who fights back against Bob is punished while [[KarmaHoudini Bob gets off scot-free]]. This encourages him to escalate his bullying to far worse levels.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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* '''Deconstructed''': Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[[HeWhoFightsMonsters [[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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* '''Subverted''': ???
Alex receives a punishment, but the principal takes him aside and makes it clear that this is only because badly-written school policy doesn't distinguish between aggressor and defender, and lets Alex know he'll get a slap-on-the-wrist punishment.
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However, Alex is still officially and permanently marked as a troublemaker, and has a hard time shaking the reputation.
* '''Parodied''':???Alex merely raises his hands to block Bob's punches. Immediately several teachers swarm over to hold Alex down until the police arrive, while several others fawn over Bob to make sure his knuckles weren't hurt by Alex's face.
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* '''Parodied''':
* '''Implied''': Alex, a scrawny kid frequently seen with bruises and black eyes, is frequently suspended from fighting.
* '''Deconstructed''': Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
* '''Deconstructed''': Alex comes to the conclusion that there's simply no way to get justice from the school or other authorities. He'll have to get justice for himself- and if that means [[[HeWhoFightsMonsters becoming the bully]] the school keeps accusing him of being, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil then so be it]].
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* '''Enforced''': The author is a children's writer who wants to write a story discouraging violence.
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* '''Enforced''': The author is a children's writer who wants to write a story discouraging that discourages violence.
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* '''Invoked''': [[DeanBitterman The school's principal]] has a dislike for Alex and was fully aware he was being bullied. When he saw Alex fighting back Bob, he saw this as an opportunity to punish him while letting Bob off the hook.
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* '''Invoked''': [[DeanBitterman The school's principal]] has a dislike for Alex and was fully aware he was being bullied. bullied by Bob. When he saw Alex fighting back Bob, Bob back, he saw this as an opportunity to punish him while letting Bob off the hook.
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* '''Exploited''': ???Bob uses this trope to get Alex and the other victims in trouble all to boost his status as the top jock of the school.
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* '''Exaggerated''':
** Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]].
** Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]].
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* '''Exaggerated''':
**'''Exaggerated''': Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]].watch]]. [[DisproportionateRetribution He is immediately expelled from school and is sent to juvenile jail.]]
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There is no moral about fighting back or not fighting back.
* '''Enforced''':???The author is a children's writer who wants to write a story discouraging violence.
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* '''Invoked''': ???[[DeanBitterman The school's principal]] has a dislike for Alex and was fully aware he was being bullied. When he saw Alex fighting back Bob, he saw this as an opportunity to punish him while letting Bob off the hook.
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'''Basic Trope''': When fighting back against your aggressors is seen as a bad thing.
* '''Straight''': Alex fights back against [[TheBully Bob]], but he gets punished for it.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]].
* '''Downplayed''': While both students do get punished for fighting, Alex is only punished for a whole week while Bob is punished for one day even though Bob started the fight.
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** IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim
** HeWhoFightsMonsters
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** TurnTheOtherCheek
** {{Forgiv|eness}}ing your aggressors is seen as a bad thing.
** Fighting back is highly encouraged.
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* '''Defied''': The school doesn't punish Alex for fighting back Bob.
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* '''Straight''': Alex fights back against [[TheBully Bob]], but he gets punished for it.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Alex fights back against Bob, who has been bullying other classmates [[AdultsAreUseless while the school staff does nothing but watch]].
* '''Downplayed''': While both students do get punished for fighting, Alex is only punished for a whole week while Bob is punished for one day even though Bob started the fight.
* '''Justified''':
** IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim
** HeWhoFightsMonsters
* '''Inverted''':
** TurnTheOtherCheek
** {{Forgiv|eness}}ing your aggressors is seen as a bad thing.
** Fighting back is highly encouraged.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???
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* '''Defied''': The school doesn't punish Alex for fighting back Bob.
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