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** Alice looks forward to being able to have the kids' old rooms back, all the peace and quiet, and the ability to have sex with Bob in the living room.
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** Alice looks forward to is happier without the kids for being able to have the kids' old rooms back, all the peace and quiet, and the ability to have sex with Bob in the living any room.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Some days Alice misses the kids, other times she doesn't
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'''Basic Trope''': A character starts a new chapter of life as his/her children have grown up and left the house.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character starts a new chapter of life as his/her children his/her/their child(ren) have grown up and left the house.
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* '''Straight''': Alice misses her children and has no idea what to do with her newfound free time once the youngest has left.
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* '''Straight''': Alice misses her children AliceAndBob have three adult children: Alan, Billy, and has Carol. As soon as Carol (the youngest child) leaves home, AliceAndBob have no idea what to do with her their newfound free time once the youngest has left.time.
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** Alice feels as though her life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide.
** Alice develops a destructive habit, such as [[LadyDrunk a drinking problem]].
* '''Downplayed''': Alice looks into her childrens' old bedrooms for a few wistful seconds before turning them into a computer room, a home gym, and a den, respectively.
* '''Justified''':
** A large part of Alice's identity is being The Mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
** Alice misses the kids, and the happy memories (and those memories that maybe weren't so happy at the time, such as when Billy discovered his artistic side...and the newly-painted wall, but are now something to look back on and laugh at)
* '''Inverted''':
** Alice develops a destructive habit, such as [[LadyDrunk a drinking problem]].
* '''Downplayed''': Alice looks into her childrens' old bedrooms for a few wistful seconds before turning them into a computer room, a home gym, and a den, respectively.
* '''Justified''':
** A large part of Alice's identity is being The Mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
** Alice misses the kids, and the happy memories (and those memories that maybe weren't so happy at the time, such as when Billy discovered his artistic side...and the newly-painted wall, but are now something to look back on and laugh at)
* '''Inverted''':
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** Once the last child has moved away, AliceAndBob suddenly feel that their lives are meaningless.
** Alicefeels as though her life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide.
** Alice develops a destructive habit, such as [[LadyDrunk a drinking problem]].
thinks this way when the children are merely visiting their aunt for one weekend.
* '''Downplayed''': Some days Alicelooks into her childrens' old bedrooms for a few wistful seconds before turning them into a computer room, a home gym, and a den, respectively.
misses the kids, other times she doesn't.
*'''Justified''':
'''Justified''':
** A large part of Alice's identity is simply beingThe Mother.the mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
** Alice misses the kids, and the happy memories(and -- and maybe those memories that maybe weren't so happy at the time, such time (such as when Billy discovered his artistic side...side and the newly-painted wall, wall), but are now something to look back on and laugh at)
at.
*'''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** Alice
** Alice develops a destructive habit, such as [[LadyDrunk a drinking problem]].
* '''Downplayed''': Some days Alice
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** A large part of Alice's identity is simply being
** Alice misses the kids, and the happy memories
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** Alice looks forward to being able to have the kids' old rooms back, all the peace and quiet, and the ability to have sex with Bob in the living room.
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** Alice looks forward to being able to have the kids' old rooms back, all the peace and quiet, and the ability to have sex with Bob in the living room.
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** The kids have not left the house permanently, they are just at summer camp, boarding school, college, etc.
** The kids are still living with Alice.
** The kids are still living with Alice.
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** The kids have not left Alice says that she "misses the house permanently, they are just at summer camp, boarding school, college, etc.
** Thekids". It is then revealed that the kids are still living with Alice.
** The
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** None of those things (even grandchildren) replace ''her'' children and raising them.
** Alice still misses the kids.
** They are teenagers, and they spend a lot of time in their rooms or hanging out with their peers, and can be a bit moody, and Alice feels a bit lost and alienated.
** Alice still misses the kids.
** They are teenagers, and they spend a lot of time in their rooms or hanging out with their peers, and can be a bit moody, and Alice feels a bit lost and alienated.
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** None of those things (even grandchildren) replace ''her'' children and raising them.
them.
**Alice still misses The kids have not left the kids.
house permanently, they are just at summer camp, boarding school, college, etc.
** They are teenagers, and they spend a lot of time in their rooms or hanging out with their peers, and can be a bit moody, and Alice feels a bit lost and alienated.
**
** They are teenagers, and they spend a lot of time in their rooms or hanging out with their peers, and can be a bit moody, and Alice feels a bit lost and alienated.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Some days Alice misses the kids, other times she doesn't.
* '''Averted''':
* '''Averted''':
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Some days Alice misses the kids, other times she doesn't.
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* '''Invoked''': The youngest of Alice's children has finally gone off to college...and made new friends and found an apartment to live in.
* '''Exploited''':
** An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
** Billy is away at college and dating a HardDrinkingPartyGirl...and spent all his money on her. He tries to make AliceAndBob miss him so they'll worry and send him more money (and not fret about his appalling GPA).
* '''Defied''': AliceAndBob take up new hobbies and go on vacations and do all the things they couldn't do when they had ChildrenInTow.
* '''Discussed''': "So, what's it like not having kids around?"
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Exploited''':
** An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
** Billy is away at college and dating a HardDrinkingPartyGirl...and spent all his money on her. He tries to make AliceAndBob miss him so they'll worry and send him more money (and not fret about his appalling GPA).
* '''Defied''': AliceAndBob take up new hobbies and go on vacations and do all the things they couldn't do when they had ChildrenInTow.
* '''Discussed''': "So, what's it like not having kids around?"
* '''Conversed''': ???
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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** The youngest of Alice's children has finally gone off to college...and made new friends and found an apartment to livein.
* '''Exploited''':
** An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
in.
** Billy is away at college and dating a HardDrinkingPartyGirl...and spent all his money on her. He tries to make AliceAndBob miss him so they'll worry and send him more money (and not fret about his appallingGPA).
GPA).
*'''Defied''': '''Exploited''': An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
* '''Defied''':
** AliceAndBob take full advantage of their newfound freedom. First, they turn their children's old bedrooms into a computer room, a home gym, and a den, respectively. Then they take up newhobbies and hobbies, go on dream vacations together, and do all the any other things they wanted to do before, but couldn't do when they had with ChildrenInTow.
** Alice talks the kids into moving back.
* '''Discussed''': "So, Bob, what's it like not having those kidsaround?"
around? Do you miss them?" "Actually, no. Alice and I have a lot more space now, not to mention free time."
* '''Conversed''':???"Why do Alice and Bob miss their children so much? As I seem to remember from earlier seasons of this show, parenting was exceptionally stressful for them."
* '''Implied''': Alice sometimes looks into her childrens' old bedrooms for a few wistful seconds.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob feels as though his life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide. Alice then develops a destructive habit, such as [[LadyDrunk a drinking problem]].
** The youngest of Alice's children has finally gone off to college...and made new friends and found an apartment to live
* '''Exploited''':
** An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
** Billy is away at college and dating a HardDrinkingPartyGirl...and spent all his money on her. He tries to make AliceAndBob miss him so they'll worry and send him more money (and not fret about his appalling
*
* '''Defied''':
** AliceAndBob take full advantage of their newfound freedom. First, they turn their children's old bedrooms into a computer room, a home gym, and a den, respectively. Then they take up new
** Alice talks the kids into moving back.
* '''Discussed''': "So, Bob, what's it like not having those kids
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Implied''': Alice sometimes looks into her childrens' old bedrooms for a few wistful seconds.
* '''Played For Drama''': Bob feels as though his life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide. Alice then develops a destructive habit, such as [[LadyDrunk a drinking problem]].
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[[EmptyNest It's so quiet without the kids here...]]
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[[EmptyNest It's so quiet without the kids here...]]here.]] Let's visit them at [[EmptyNest the main page]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice feels as though her life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Alice feels as though her life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide.
** Alice feels as though her life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide.
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** Alice develops a destructive habit, such as [[LadyDrunk a drinking problem]].
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** The kids miss Alice's cooking and the lack of responsibility, and yes, even Alice's nagging, they had as children once they leave.
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** [[GrowingUpSucks The kids miss Alice's cooking and the lack of responsibility, and yes, even Alice's nagging, they had as children once they leave.leave]].
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** The kids are still living with Alice.
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** They are teenagers, and they spend a lot of time in their rooms or hanging out with their peers, and can be a bit moody, and Alice feels a bit lost and alienated.
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Basic Trope: A character starts a new chapter of life as his/her children have grown up and left the house.
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* '''Justified''': A large part of Alice's identity is being The Mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** A large part of Alice's identity is being The Mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
** A large part of Alice's identity is being The Mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
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* '''Inverted''': The kids miss Alice's cooking and the lack of responsibility, and yes, even Alice's nagging, they had as children once they leave.
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** The kids miss Alice's cooking and the lack of responsibility, and yes, even Alice's nagging, they had as children once they leave.
** The kids miss Alice's cooking and the lack of responsibility, and yes, even Alice's nagging, they had as children once they leave.
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* '''Subverted''': Alice ''should'', by all rights, be an {{Empty Nest}}er by now, but [[BasementDweller her adult children have yet to leave the house.]]
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Alice ''should'', by all rights, be an {{Empty Nest}}er by now, but [[BasementDweller her adult children have yet to leave the house.]]
** Alice ''should'', by all rights, be an {{Empty Nest}}er by now, but [[BasementDweller her adult children have yet to leave the house.]]
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* '''Double Subverted''': AliceAndBob intervene and kick their kids out of the house, and kind of regret it.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** AliceAndBob intervene and kick their kids out of the house, and kind of regret it.
** AliceAndBob intervene and kick their kids out of the house, and kind of regret it.
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** But then in the [[EerieSilence "peace and quiet"]], she remembers life with the kids and gets wistful.
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** But then in the [[EerieSilence "peace and quiet"]], quiet", she remembers life with the kids and gets wistful.
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* '''Averted''': Alice's children are still at home.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Alice's children are still at home.
** Alice's children are still at home.
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* '''Exploited''': An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
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* '''Exploited''': '''Exploited''':
** An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
** An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
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* '''Conversed''': ???
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** The kids have not left the house permanently, they are just at summer camp, boarding school, college, etc.
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** None of those things (even grandchildren) replace ''her'' children and raising them.
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** None of those things (even grandchildren) replace ''her'' children and raising them.
** Alice still misses the kids.
** Alice still misses the kids.
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*'''Lampshaded''': "It's almost too quiet without the kids here."
*'''Invoked''': The youngest of Alice's children has finally gone off to college...and made new friends and found an apartment to live in.
*'''Exploited''': An apartment or condo complex markets itself to older adults whose children have grown up, now that they have less (or no) need of all that extra space.
** Billy is away at college and dating a HardDrinkingPartyGirl...and spent all his money on her. He tries to make AliceAndBob miss him so they'll worry and send him more money (and not fret about his appalling GPA).
*'''Defied''': AliceAndBob take up new hobbies and go on vacations and do all the things they couldn't do when they had ChildrenInTow.
*'''Discussed''': "So, what's it like not having kids around?"
*'''Conversed''': ???
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Basic Trope: A character starts a new chapter of life as his/her children have grown up and left the house.
*'''Straight''': Alice misses her children and has no idea what to do with her newfound free time once the youngest has left.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice feels as though her life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide.
*'''Downplayed''': Alice looks into her childrens' old bedrooms for a few wistful seconds before turning them into a computer room, a home gym, and a den, respectively.
*'''Justified''': A large part of Alice's identity is being The Mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
** Alice misses the kids, and the happy memories (and those memories that maybe weren't so happy at the time, such as when Billy discovered his artistic side...and the newly-painted wall, but are now something to look back on and laugh at)
*'''Inverted''': The kids miss Alice's cooking and the lack of responsibility, and yes, even Alice's nagging, they had as children once they leave.
** Alice secretly misses life without kids after her first child is born.
*'''Subverted''': Alice ''should'', by all rights, be an {{Empty Nest}}er by now, but [[BasementDweller her adult children have yet to leave the house.]]
** [[MyBelovedSmother Alice]] calls and emails her adult children every day, several times a day, sometimes to say hi, sometimes to nag.
** Alice looks forward to being able to have the kids' old rooms back, all the peace and quiet, and the ability to have sex with Bob in the living room.
** Alice adopts a puppy, or starts doing some volunteer work that involves kids, or embraces a new identity known as [[IWantGrandkids Grandma]].
*'''Double Subverted''': AliceAndBob intervene and kick their kids out of the house, and kind of regret it.
** Because she really does miss them and worry about how they'll survive without her.
** But then in the [[EerieSilence "peace and quiet"]], she remembers life with the kids and gets wistful.
** None of those things (even grandchildren) replace ''her'' children and raising them.
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': Some days Alice misses the kids, other times she doesn't.
*'''Averted''': Alice's children are still at home.
** Alice, whether [[LawOfInverseFertility by chance]] or [[ChildrenAreAWaste by choice]], has no children.
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Discussed: ???
Conversed: ???
*'''Straight''': Alice misses her children and has no idea what to do with her newfound free time once the youngest has left.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice feels as though her life is meaningless and is DrivenToSuicide.
*'''Downplayed''': Alice looks into her childrens' old bedrooms for a few wistful seconds before turning them into a computer room, a home gym, and a den, respectively.
*'''Justified''': A large part of Alice's identity is being The Mother. Now that the kids are not kids anymore and don't need her, she feels like she's lost that sense of purpose.
** Alice misses the kids, and the happy memories (and those memories that maybe weren't so happy at the time, such as when Billy discovered his artistic side...and the newly-painted wall, but are now something to look back on and laugh at)
*'''Inverted''': The kids miss Alice's cooking and the lack of responsibility, and yes, even Alice's nagging, they had as children once they leave.
** Alice secretly misses life without kids after her first child is born.
*'''Subverted''': Alice ''should'', by all rights, be an {{Empty Nest}}er by now, but [[BasementDweller her adult children have yet to leave the house.]]
** [[MyBelovedSmother Alice]] calls and emails her adult children every day, several times a day, sometimes to say hi, sometimes to nag.
** Alice looks forward to being able to have the kids' old rooms back, all the peace and quiet, and the ability to have sex with Bob in the living room.
** Alice adopts a puppy, or starts doing some volunteer work that involves kids, or embraces a new identity known as [[IWantGrandkids Grandma]].
*'''Double Subverted''': AliceAndBob intervene and kick their kids out of the house, and kind of regret it.
** Because she really does miss them and worry about how they'll survive without her.
** But then in the [[EerieSilence "peace and quiet"]], she remembers life with the kids and gets wistful.
** None of those things (even grandchildren) replace ''her'' children and raising them.
*'''Parodied''': ???
*'''Zig Zagged''': Some days Alice misses the kids, other times she doesn't.
*'''Averted''': Alice's children are still at home.
** Alice, whether [[LawOfInverseFertility by chance]] or [[ChildrenAreAWaste by choice]], has no children.
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