History PlayingWith / BlackAndWhiteMagic

13th Nov '15 4:19:12 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* '''Reconstructed''': PersonalityPowers are in effect and so Black Mages are {{Blood Knight}}s, [[TheCape the cape]] or otherwise enjoy living InHarmsWay while White Mages are {{AllLoving Hero}}es that go where they are needed.
* '''Played For Drama''': Marco joins the hero's party to prove that [[DarkIsNotEvil Black Magic can be used for good purposes]], while Claudia joins up because she's sick of her responsibilities and wants to see the world outside the city walls.

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* '''Reconstructed''': PersonalityPowers are in effect and so Black Mages are {{Blood Knight}}s, [[TheCape the cape]] or otherwise enjoy living InHarmsWay while White Mages are {{AllLoving {{All Loving Hero}}es that go where they are needed.
* '''Played For Drama''': Marco joins the hero's party to prove that [[DarkIsNotEvil [[BadPowersGoodPeople Black Magic can be used for good purposes]], while Claudia joins up because she's sick of her responsibilities and wants to see the world outside the city walls.
5th Jul '15 12:42:23 AM SystemCellar
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** ...Which are all branches of either black or white magic.

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** ... Which are all branches of either black or white magic.



** There are four mages - Marco the BlackMage, Claudia the WhiteMage, Dennis the BarrierWarrior, and River who uses {{StatusBuff}}s, with Hiro rounding out TheTeam with his Sword Skills, and the clean split of magic is lost.

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** There are four mages - Marco the BlackMage, Claudia the WhiteMage, Dennis the BarrierWarrior, and River who uses {{StatusBuff}}s, {{Status Buff}}s, with Hiro rounding out TheTeam with his Sword Skills, and the clean split of magic is lost.



* '''Conversed''': "Man, I don't know who to pick, that cute chick in white or that sexy magician [[BiTheWay dude]] in black."

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* '''Conversed''': '''Conversed''':
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"Man, I don't know who to pick, that cute chick in white or that sexy magician [[BiTheWay dude]] in black.""
--> "Yes, because obviously that's the only reason to be torn between them when their roles in combat are each others' complete opposites. How DistractedByTheSexy ''are'' you?"



* '''Reconstructed''': PersonalityPowers are in effect and so Black Mages are {{Blood Knight}}s, [[TheCape the cape]] or otherwise enjoy living InHarmsWay while White Mages are [[AllLovingHero All Loving Heroes]] that go where they are needed.

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* '''Reconstructed''': PersonalityPowers are in effect and so Black Mages are {{Blood Knight}}s, [[TheCape the cape]] or otherwise enjoy living InHarmsWay while White Mages are [[AllLovingHero All Loving Heroes]] {{AllLoving Hero}}es that go where they are needed.



* '''Implied''': Mages never join the party, but are present in group shots during cutscenes and such. Everyone in a white robe is seen healing someone, and everyone in a black robe is seen in fierce combat.



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21st Jun '15 9:01:06 PM MrUnderhill
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** Claudia: "Naturally I studied offensive spells in addition to healing. Any place the later is needed is guaranteed to be dangerous."

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** Claudia: "Naturally I studied offensive spells in addition "There are many ways to healing. Any place the later is needed is guaranteed help people. Sometimes I heal patients; sometimes I obliterate monsters before they can hurt anyone to be dangerous.begin with. Either way helps."
23rd Aug '14 4:29:51 PM VPhantom
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* '''Parodied''': A bard in the ''Tales of Troperia'' wrote the song titled [[MichaelJackson Black or White]] to ridicule the situation.

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* '''Parodied''': A bard in the ''Tales of Troperia'' wrote the writes a song titled [[MichaelJackson [[Music/MichaelJackson Black or White]] to ridicule the situation.
23rd Aug '14 4:29:00 PM VPhantom
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* '''Downplayed''': They can't win battles alone, but [[HumansAreSpecial Hiro]] recruits them along with [[CoolHorse Dennis]] the KnightInShiningArmour and BarrierWarrior and [[NobleWolf River]] the BareFistedMonk with StatusBuff skills, because Hiro can't use any magic himself, only physical attacks imbued with magic.



* '''Downplayed''': They can't win battles alone, but [[HumansAreSpecial Hiro]] recruits them along with [[CoolHorse Dennis]] the KnightInShiningArmour and BarrierWarrior and [[NobleWolf River]] the BareFistedMonk with StatusBuff skills, because Hiro can't use any magic himself, only physical attacks imbued with magic.
23rd Aug '14 1:09:21 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* '''Straight''': ''Tales Of Troperia'' has two spellcasters: [[BigBadassBirdOfPrey Claudia]], the [[WhiteMage healer]], and [[KingOfBeasts Marco]], the [[BlackMage attack mage]].

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* '''Straight''': ''Tales Of Troperia'' has two spellcasters: [[BigBadassBirdOfPrey [[NobleBirdOfPrey Claudia]], the [[WhiteMage healer]], and [[KingOfBeasts Marco]], the [[BlackMage attack mage]].



* '''Reconstructed''': PersonalityPowers are in effect and so Black Mages are {{Blood Knight}}s, [[TheCape the cape]] or otherwise enjoy living InHarmsWay and White Mages are [[AllLovingHero All Loving Heroes]] that go where they are needed.

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* '''Reconstructed''': PersonalityPowers are in effect and so Black Mages are {{Blood Knight}}s, [[TheCape the cape]] or otherwise enjoy living InHarmsWay and while White Mages are [[AllLovingHero All Loving Heroes]] that go where they are needed.
21st Jan '14 11:56:22 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* '''Downplayed''': They can't win battles alone, but [[HumansAreSpecial Hiro]] recruits them along with [[CoolHorse Dennis]] the KnightInShiningArmour and BarrierWarrior and [[BigBadassWolf River]] the BareFistedMonk with StatusBuff skills, because Hiro can't use any magic himself, only physical attacks imbued with magic.

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* '''Downplayed''': They can't win battles alone, but [[HumansAreSpecial Hiro]] recruits them along with [[CoolHorse Dennis]] the KnightInShiningArmour and BarrierWarrior and [[BigBadassWolf [[NobleWolf River]] the BareFistedMonk with StatusBuff skills, because Hiro can't use any magic himself, only physical attacks imbued with magic.



** But either way, both can be used to either help or hurt people.

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** But either way, both can be used to either help or hurt people.There are two groups of ThePowersThatBe and each one approves/disapproves of the opposite kind of magic. The distinction is ''religious/spiritual'' rather than political.



* '''Zig Zagged''': Claudia learns black magic, Marco learns white magic, then both of them drop the black and white magic and use SummonMagic instead.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Claudia learns black magic, Marco learns white magic, then both of them drop the black and white magic and use SummonMagic instead.instead but Marco's summon magic is for calling monsters while Claudia summons supplies like food and medicine.



** There are four mages - Marco the BlackMage, Claudia the WhiteMage, Dennis the BarrierWarrior, and River who uses {{StatusBuff}}s, with Hiro rounding out the FiveManBand with his Sword Skills, and the clean split of magic is lost.

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** There are four mages - Marco the BlackMage, Claudia the WhiteMage, Dennis the BarrierWarrior, and River who uses {{StatusBuff}}s, with Hiro rounding out the FiveManBand TheTeam with his Sword Skills, and the clean split of magic is lost.



* '''Lampshaded''': "Why on earth can I heal wounds but not inflict any?"

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Why on earth can I heal wounds but not inflict any?"any?" or "Why can't my magic help anyone beyond killing their enemies?"



* '''Exploited''': [[BigBad Emperor Evulz]] finds a way to [[DuelBoss separate]] the [[BashBrothers duo]], and they are at a disadvantage because Marco can't heal his wounds and Claudia has no attacks. Dennis, Hiro, and River are then unable to defend themselves because they can't use any magic/ can only use supportive magic.
* '''Defied''': Marco: "Well, of course I have a few healing spells! What kind of self-respecting wizard limits himself to throwing fireballs all day?"

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* '''Exploited''': [[BigBad Emperor Evulz]] finds a way to [[DuelBoss separate]] the [[BashBrothers duo]], and they are at a disadvantage because Marco can't heal his wounds and Claudia has no attacks. Dennis, Hiro, and River are then unable to defend themselves because they can't use any magic/ can only use supportive magic.
magic at all.
* '''Defied''': Marco: '''Defied''':
**Marco:
"Well, of course I have a few healing spells! What kind of self-respecting wizard limits himself to throwing fireballs all day?"day?"
**Claudia: "Naturally I studied offensive spells in addition to healing. Any place the later is needed is guaranteed to be dangerous."



* '''Deconstructed''': Black mages are seen as [[EnemyToAllLivingThings pariahs]] for having powers that are [[PersonOfMassDestruction solely destructive in nature]], and are forced into either military service or exile. White mages, on the other hand, would be seldom seen outside of cities and other major population centers, since their services would be in such high demand for everything from broken bones to life-threatening injuries.
* '''Reconstructed''': Marco joins the hero's party to prove that [[DarkIsNotEvil Black Magic can be used for good purposes]], while Claudia joins up because she's sick of her responsibilities and wants to see the world outside the city walls.

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* '''Deconstructed''': Black mages are seen as [[EnemyToAllLivingThings [[AllTheOtherReindeer pariahs]] for having powers that are [[PersonOfMassDestruction solely destructive in nature]], and are forced into either military service or exile. White mages, on the other hand, would be seldom seen outside of cities and other major population centers, since their services would be in such high demand for everything from broken bones common illness to life-threatening injuries.
* '''Reconstructed''': PersonalityPowers are in effect and so Black Mages are {{Blood Knight}}s, [[TheCape the cape]] or otherwise enjoy living InHarmsWay and White Mages are [[AllLovingHero All Loving Heroes]] that go where they are needed.
*'''Played For Drama''':
Marco joins the hero's party to prove that [[DarkIsNotEvil Black Magic can be used for good purposes]], while Claudia joins up because she's sick of her responsibilities and wants to see the world outside the city walls.



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1st Apr '13 11:37:52 PM nombretomado
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* '''Discussed''': "Um, Miss WhiteMage and Mr. BlackMage? Can you teach me [[FinalFantasy a Cure spell and a Fire spell?]]"

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* '''Discussed''': "Um, Miss WhiteMage and Mr. BlackMage? Can you teach me [[FinalFantasy [[Franchise/FinalFantasy a Cure spell and a Fire spell?]]"
8th Dec '12 11:17:48 AM VPhantom
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* '''Deconstructed''': Black mages are seen as [[EnemyToAllLivingThings pariahs]] for having powers that are [[PersonOfMassDestruction solely destructive in nature]], and are forced into either military service or exile. White mages, on the other hand, would be seldom seen outside of cities and other major population centers, since their services would be in such high demand for everything from broken bones to life-threatening injuries.
* '''Reconstructed''': Marco joins the hero's party to prove that [[DarkIsNotEvil Black Magic can be used for good purposes]], while Claudia joins up because she's sick of her responsibilities and wants to see the world outside the city walls.



* '''Deconstructed''': Black mages are seen as [[EnemyToAllLivingThings pariahs]] for having powers that are [[PersonOfMassDestruction solely destructive in nature]], and are forced into either military service or exile. White mages, on the other hand, would be seldom seen outside of cities and other major population centers, since their services would be in such high demand for everything from broken bones to life-threatening injuries.
* '''Reconstructed''': Marco joins the hero's party to prove that [[DarkIsNotEvil Black Magic can be used for good purposes]], while Claudia joins up because she's sick of her responsibilities and wants to see the world outside the city walls.



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1st Dec '12 11:56:44 AM MrUnderhill
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* '''Defied''': Marco: "Well, of course I have a few healing spells! What kind of self-respecting wizard limits himself to only combat magic?"

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* '''Defied''': Marco: "Well, of course I have a few healing spells! What kind of self-respecting wizard limits himself to only combat magic?"throwing fireballs all day?"
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