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** Seamus moving out of the house is treated not as a right of passage, but selfish abandonment.
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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult nerd who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents.
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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult nerd nerd]] who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': the fact Seamus lives with his parents is mentioned to be a problem several times, but never has any impact on his character or on the story.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': the The fact Seamus lives with his parents is mentioned to be a problem several times, but never has any impact on his character or on the story.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Seamus is a SerialKiller and the fact he lives with his parents either highlights his lack of mental maturity or it's one of the things that place him BeneathSuspicion because of MamaDidntRaiseNoCriminal.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Seamus is a SerialKiller SerialKiller, and the fact he lives with his parents either highlights [[PsychopathicManchild his lack of mental maturity maturity]], or it's one of the things that place him BeneathSuspicion because of MamaDidntRaiseNoCriminal.
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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult]] {{nerd}} who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents.
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'''Basic Trope''': An [[ManChild adult]] {{nerd}} adult nerd who still lives with [[AlwaysMale his]] parents.
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** Seamus is a stereotypical {{Nerd}}
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** Seamus is a stereotypical {{Nerd}}nerd
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** Seamus is a stereotypical HollywoodNerd.
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** Seamus is a stereotypical HollywoodNerd.{{Nerd}}
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** Seamus is an IllBoy, or alternatively has a disability/condition that precludes their living alone.
** Seamus' mother is an IllGirl (or simply very elderly), and he is looking after her.
** Seamus' mother is an IllGirl (or simply very elderly), and he is looking after her.
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** Seamus is an IllBoy, DelicateAndSickly, or alternatively has a disability/condition that precludes their living alone.
** Seamus' mother isan IllGirl DelicateAndSickly (or simply very elderly), and he is looking after her.
** Seamus' mother is
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Hey BasementDweller, get back down to your mamma's basement so [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife you can continue wasting time on TV Tropes]]!
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Hey BasementDweller, get back down to your mamma's basement so [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife [[JustForFun/TVTropesWillRuinYourLife you can continue wasting time on TV Tropes]]!
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** Seamus moves out of the house, because he is not getting along with his parents.
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** He moves in with his aunt and uncle.
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** Seamus is an IllBoy.
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** Seamus is an IllBoy.IllBoy, or alternatively has a disability/condition that precludes their living alone.
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** Seamus O'Taku has completed college, holds down a paying job -- albeit one [[ObliquelyObfuscatedOccupation nobody can figure out what he actually does]] -- and pays his parents rent for his room and board.
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** Seamus O'Taku has completed college, holds down a paying job -- albeit one [[ObliquelyObfuscatedOccupation nobody can figure out what he actually does]] -- and pays his parents to rent for his room and board.
** The society Seamus lives, it's normal for at least the youngest (any remaining member) to stay with their parents until marriage.
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** Seamus turned into an owner-occupier after his mother's death. He needn't pay rent, but has to look after himself.
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** Seamus turned into an owner-occupier after his mother's death. He needn't pay rent, rent but has to look after himself.
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** ...And then he's bankrupted, and has to move back home for real.
** But finds he can't make it on his own when times get tough, and has to move back home.
** But finds he can't make it on his own when times get tough, and has to move back home.
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** ...And then he's bankrupted, bankrupted and has to move back home for real.
** But finds he can't make it on his own when times gettough, tough and has to move back home.
** But finds he can't make it on his own when times get
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** He still doesn't work or pay any sort of rent, and doesn't help out with chores.
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** He still doesn't work or pay any sort of rent, rent and doesn't help out with chores.
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** It's the beach house he spent every summer at as a child, and his parents are the ones paying the bills, property taxes, and mortgage on it. Seamus gets a BigFancyHouse by the ocean to live in, rent-free.
** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he turned his late mother's home into multiple tenaments to live off the rent.
** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he turned his late mother's home into multiple tenaments to live off the rent.
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** It's the beach house he spent every summer at as a child, and his parents are the ones paying the bills, property taxes, and mortgage on it. Seamus gets a BigFancyHouse by the ocean to live in, rent-free.
** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he turned his late mother's home into multipletenaments tenements to live off the rent.
** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he turned his late mother's home into multiple
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** Seamus just got out of {{Prison}}, and he's having trouble finding ''any'' kind of work, because few (if any) companies want to hire an ex-con. So he has to rely on his parents until he ''can'' find something and put that behind him.
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** Seamus just got out of {{Prison}}, and he's having trouble finding ''any'' kind of work, work because few (if any) companies want to hire an ex-con. So he has to rely on his parents until he ''can'' find something and put that behind him.
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* '''Implied''': Mike and Alex, who are about to marry, have moved in together away from their respective parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail... not so for their less fortunate DropInCharacter friend, Seamus. A lot of Seamus' anecdotes seem to involve his parents, as well, but whenever he's asked about his living arrangements he changes the subject.
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* '''Implied''': Mike and Alex, who are about to marry, have moved in together away from their respective parents, and the audience gets to see their apartment in detail... not so for their less fortunate DropInCharacter friend, Seamus. A lot of Seamus' anecdotes seem to involve his parents, as well, but whenever he's asked about his the living arrangements he changes the subject.
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** Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive 'Out There'.
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** Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, mother and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive 'Out There'.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Seamus is a SerialKiller and the fact he lives with his parents either highlights his lack of mental maturity or it's one of the things that place him BeneathSuspicion because MamaDidntRaiseNoCriminal.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Seamus is a SerialKiller and the fact he lives with his parents either highlights his lack of mental maturity or it's one of the things that place him BeneathSuspicion because of MamaDidntRaiseNoCriminal.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Seamus is a stereotypical HollywoodNerd.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Laughs''':
** Seamus is a stereotypicalHollywoodNerd.HollywoodNerd.
** Seamus's life is constantly ruined by his AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents, and the fact he lives with them is just insult to injury.
** Seamus is a stereotypical
** Seamus's life is constantly ruined by his AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents, and the fact he lives with them is just insult to injury.
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* '''Played For Horror''': Seamus is a SerialKiller and the fact he lives with his parents either highlights his lack of mental maturity or it's one of the things that place him BeneathSuspicion because MamaDidntRaiseNoCriminal.
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* '''Reconstructed''': Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive 'Out There'.
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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
** Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive 'OutThere'.There'.
** Eventually Seamus's parents move to another house or pass away, and Seamus gets a free(-ish) BigFancyHouse.
** Seamus is saving money, and he also pays rent and otherwise earns his keep there. He is not a burden on his mother, and eventually leaves the nest. He gains skills he needs to survive 'Out
** Eventually Seamus's parents move to another house or pass away, and Seamus gets a free(-ish) BigFancyHouse.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': the fact Seamus lives with his parents is mentioned to be a problem several times, but never has any impact on his character or on tje story.
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* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': the fact Seamus lives with his parents is mentioned to be a problem several times, but never has any impact on his character or on tje the story.
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** '''Plotted A Good Waste''': the fact Seamus lives with his parents is mentioned to be a problem several times, but never has any impact on his character or on tje story.
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** Seamus is stuck in a vicious circle of depression: he's too depressed to go to work, feels useless because of this, gets more depressed etc.
'''Plotted A Good Waste''': the fact Seamus lives with his parents is mentioned to be a problem several times, but never has any impact on his character or on tje story.
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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
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** Seamus' family is ''very rich'', and Seamus finds it easier to simply live in the guest house and pay rent/help out around the place, especially since even a place the size of the guest house might be more than he could afford without help.
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** Seamus' mother, upon purchasing a new home, decides to place it in Seamus' name, due in part to her son having a mild mental disorder that might cause him issues if he tried to buy a house himself down the road. She also sets things up so that, when her time does come, bills are automatically paid from a trust fund, and that he has a caretaker to help remind Seamus to do the things she often reminds him to do. Should Seamus find someone who loves him, in spite of his issues, Seamus' mother will leave the place, and move in with her own LoveInterest.
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* '''Deconstructed''': This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her).
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** This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her).
** This is going to be inconvenient for Seamus (who may have a hard time being taken seriously and/or [[NerdsAreVirgins getting a girlfriend]]) and for his mother (who may still have to provide for him and may not be able to do things she wants to do because he still depends on her).
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* Seamus lives in his own apartment despite being so young that it is abnormal.
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** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he turned his late mother's home into [[{{Landlord}} multiple tenaments to live off the rent]].
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** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he turned his late mother's home into [[{{Landlord}} multiple tenaments to live off the rent]].rent.
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** Seamus doesn't pay rent but he does assist with tasks that his parents are too frail to handle.
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** Seamus turns out to have a ''very'' good reason for still living with his parents: They're sick, and he's the only one able to take care of them.
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Hey BasementDweller, go back down to your basement so [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife you can continue wasting time on TV Tropes]]!
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Hey BasementDweller, go get back down to your mamma's basement so [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife you can continue wasting time on TV Tropes]]!
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* '''Straight''': Seamus O'Taku still lives with his mother, (presumably) without ever finishing college or getting a job.
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* '''Straight''': Seamus O'Taku [[PunnyName O]]'[[{{Otaku}} Taku]] still lives with his mother, (presumably) without ever finishing college or getting a job.
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** Seamus is an IllBoyIllBoy.
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** Seamus' mom moves into his house.
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** Seamus' mom moves into his ''his'' house.
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** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life... and is framed for a crime he didn't commit. Being an anti-social loner doesn't help prove his innocence.
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** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life... and is framed for a crime he didn't commit. [[LonersAreFreaks Being an anti-social loner doesn't help prove his innocence.innocence]].
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** Seamus' became owner-occupier after his mother's death. He's got to look after himself now, but needn't pay rent.
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** Seamus' became Seamus turned into an owner-occupier after his mother's death. He's got to look after himself now, but He needn't pay rent.rent, but has to look after himself.
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** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he transforms his late mother's home into [[{{Landlord}} multiple tenaments to live off the rent]].
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** In order to keep on his lifestyle, he transforms turned his late mother's home into [[{{Landlord}} multiple tenaments to live off the rent]].
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** Seamus' became owner-occupier after his mother's death. He's got to look after himself now, but needn't pay rent.
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** It's his childhood vacation home.
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** It's the beach house he spent every summer at as a child, and his childhood vacation home.parents are the ones paying the bills, property taxes, and mortgage on it. Seamus gets a BigFancyHouse by the ocean to live in, rent-free.
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** In Seamus' country or culture, it's considered ''normal'' for young adults to live with their parents until marriage (and sometimes even beyond).
** Seamus is living in a fairly nice house.
** Seamus is living in a fairly nice house.
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** He still doesn't work or pay any sort of rent, and doesn't help out with chores.
*** Alternatively, that tradition [[DoubleStandard really only applies to women]] (to increase the likelihood that they'll be [[NatureAdoresAVirgin virgins]] when they get married). [[MenActWomenAre Men like Seamus are expected to go out, get a home of their own, and work, to show any prospective brides that they can provide for them]]...and parents are [[VirginShaming not expected to police their sons' chastity]] to protect their FamilyHonor.
** It's his childhood vacation home.
*** Alternatively, that tradition [[DoubleStandard really only applies to women]] (to increase the likelihood that they'll be [[NatureAdoresAVirgin virgins]] when they get married). [[MenActWomenAre Men like Seamus are expected to go out, get a home of their own, and work, to show any prospective brides that they can provide for them]]...and parents are [[VirginShaming not expected to police their sons' chastity]] to protect their FamilyHonor.
** It's his childhood vacation home.
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** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life... and is framed for a crime he didn't commit.
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** Seamus has a lot of problems in his life... and is framed for a crime he didn't commit. Being an anti-social loner doesn't help prove his innocence.