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* '''Played for Drama''': Bob and Charlie have an [[DotingParent incredibly good relationship]] which has been [[ShowDontTell demonstrated to the audience]]. Not only do both Charlie and Bob feel the emotional pangs of this fight, but the audience is shown [[FlashbackEcho flashbacks]] of times they got along so closely to hammer home how devastating this encounter is.



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* '''Subverted''': Bob is Charlie's ultimate nemesis, until it's revealed that he was forced to oppose his son by [[TheManBehindTheMan a greater bad guy]].
* '''Double Subverted''': It's further revealed to be a "TheManInFrontOfTheMan" situation; ''Bob'' controls the other bad guy, and his joy in life is to torment and defeat his son.
* '''Parodied''': Charlie considers his Bob his greatest enemy because ... [[FelonyMisdemeanor he got him the wrong toy on his eighth birthday.]]

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* '''Subverted''': Bob is Charlie's ultimate nemesis, until it's revealed that he was forced to oppose his son by [[TheManBehindTheMan a greater bad guy]].
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It's further revealed to be a "TheManInFrontOfTheMan" situation; ''Bob'' controls the other bad guy, and his joy in life is to torment and defeat his son.
** Evulz may be Bob's superior, but he does not care about Charlie, while [[ItsPersonalWithTheDragon Bob see's Charlie as his personal nemesis]].
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Charlie considers his Bob his greatest enemy because ... [[FelonyMisdemeanor he got him the wrong toy on his eighth birthday.]]]]
** All men of the Smith family turn evil at age 40, and their sons are the ones to always stop them, only to continue the cycle when the get old enough.
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* '''Gender-Inverted''': Charlie's mother, Alice, is the BigBad and he opposes everything for which she stands.

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* '''Gender-Inverted''': Charlie's mother, EvilMatriarch Alice, is the BigBad and he opposes everything for which she stands.

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* '''Downplayed''': Bob dislikes Charlie and undermines all his plans out of spite.

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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
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Bob dislikes Charlie and undermines all his plans out of spite.spite.
** Bob and Charlie become business rivals.
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'''Basic Trope''': The father is the primary antagonist towards his child(ren).

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'''Basic Trope''': The A father is the primary an antagonist towards his child(ren).



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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is an absolute monster who tried to [[OffingTheOffspring kill Charlie in his crib]], murders his mother, and kills off all his friends one by one, and Charlie [[BestServedCold dedicates his entire life to destroying his evil father]].

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is an absolute monster a CompleteMonster who tried to [[OffingTheOffspring kill Charlie in his crib]], murders his mother, and kills off all his friends one by one, and Charlie [[BestServedCold dedicates his entire life to destroying his evil father]].



** Charlie's father is [[DisappearedDad completely out of the picture]].



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* '''Enforced''': ???The work is BasedOnATrueStory about a man who came to oppose everything for which his father stood.



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* '''Exploited''': ???Dave uses Charlie's hatred of Bob to destroy them both.



* '''Discussed''': "You were my father once ... you are just an evil SOB."

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* '''Discussed''': "You were my father once ... you are now, you're just an evil SOB."



* '''Reconstructed''': Charlie hates the idea of fighting his father and offers several {{Last Second Chance}}s but is resigned to the fact that he might have to kill him to stop him. Likewise, Bob makes several WeCanRuleTogether speeches because he doesn't want to kill his son but will if he has to.

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* '''Reconstructed''': Charlie hates the idea of fighting his father and offers several {{Last Second Chance}}s LastSecondChance[=s=] but is resigned to the fact that he might have to kill him to stop him. Likewise, Bob makes several WeCanRuleTogether speeches because he doesn't want to kill his son but will if he has to.

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* '''Gender-Inverted''': Charlie's mother, Alice, is the BigBad and he opposes everything for which she stands.



* '''Double Subverted''': It's further revealed to be a "Man in Front of the Man" situation; the other bad guy is actually controlled by Bob, and his joy in life is to torment and defeat his son.
* '''Parodied''': Charlie considers his Bob his greatest enemy because... [[FelonyMisdemeanor he got him the wrong toy on his eighth birthday.]]
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob repeatedly goes back and forth between loving his son and trying to crush his dreams.

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* '''Double Subverted''': It's further revealed to be a "Man in Front of the Man" "TheManInFrontOfTheMan" situation; ''Bob'' controls the other bad guy is actually controlled by Bob, guy, and his joy in life is to torment and defeat his son.
* '''Parodied''': Charlie considers his Bob his greatest enemy because...because ... [[FelonyMisdemeanor he got him the wrong toy on his eighth birthday.]]
* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob repeatedly goes back and forth between loving his son and trying to crush his dreams.



* '''Lampshaded''': "Gotta say, pops, I'd be enjoying our family time a lot more if you weren't holding a gun to my head."

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* '''Lampshaded''': "Gotta say, pops, Pops, I'd be enjoying our family time a lot more if you weren't holding a gun to my head."



* '''Discussed''': "You were my father once... you are just an evil SOB."

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* '''Discussed''': "You were my father once...once ... you are just an evil SOB."



* '''Played for Laughs''':
** Bob is a {{Harmless|Villain}} and/or IneffectualSympatheticVillain whom Charlie considers his greatest enemy.
** Charlie is a FailureHero who can't grasp that he can never defeat Bob.




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* '''Parodied''': Charlie considers Bob his greatest enemy because his father got him the wrong toy on his eighth birthday.

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* '''Parodied''': Charlie considers his Bob his greatest enemy because his father because... [[FelonyMisdemeanor he got him the wrong toy on his eighth birthday.]]
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* '''Reconstructed''': Bob and Charlie's absolute hatred for each other is rekindled as Bob [[MoralEventHorizon finally does something so unspeakably evil]] that Charlie's sole wish is to see his father die.

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* '''Reconstructed''': Bob and Charlie's absolute hatred for each other is rekindled as Bob [[MoralEventHorizon finally does something so unspeakably evil]] that Charlie's sole wish is to see Charlie hates the idea of fighting his father die.and offers several {{Last Second Chance}}s but is resigned to the fact that he might have to kill him to stop him. Likewise, Bob makes several WeCanRuleTogether speeches because he doesn't want to kill his son but will if he has to.
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** EvilOverlordJunior

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* '''Justified''': Bob is foretold by a prophecy that his son will be his sworn enemy, and he antagonizes his offspring until it becomes a SelfFulfillingProphecy.

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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
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Bob is foretold by a prophecy that his son will be his sworn enemy, and he antagonizes his offspring until it becomes a SelfFulfillingProphecy.SelfFulfillingProphecy.
** Bob [[AbusiveParents wasn't the best parent]] to Charlie.


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* '''Inverted''': AntagonisticOffspring

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* '''Inverted''': AntagonisticOffspring'''Inverted''':
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** DotingParent
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* '''Lampshaded''': "I'd be enjoying our family time more if you weren't holding a gun to my head."

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* '''Lampshaded''': "I'd "Gotta say, pops, I'd be enjoying our family time a lot more if you weren't holding a gun to my head."
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'''Basic Trope''': The father is the primary antagonist towards his child(ren).
* '''Straight''': Bob becomes a world-conquering villain just as his son Charlie becomes a people-saving hero, and they end up on opposite sides.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob is an absolute monster who tried to [[OffingTheOffspring kill Charlie in his crib]], murders his mother, and kills off all his friends one by one, and Charlie [[BestServedCold dedicates his entire life to destroying his evil father]].
* '''Downplayed''': Bob dislikes Charlie and undermines all his plans out of spite.
* '''Justified''': Bob is foretold by a prophecy that his son will be his sworn enemy, and he antagonizes his offspring until it becomes a SelfFulfillingProphecy.
* '''Inverted''': AntagonisticOffspring
* '''Subverted''': Bob is Charlie's ultimate nemesis, until it's revealed that he was forced to oppose his son by [[TheManBehindTheMan a greater bad guy]].
* '''Double Subverted''': It's further revealed to be a "Man in Front of the Man" situation; the other bad guy is actually controlled by Bob, and his joy in life is to torment and defeat his son.
* '''Parodied''': Charlie considers Bob his greatest enemy because his father got him the wrong toy on his eighth birthday.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob repeatedly goes back and forth between loving his son and trying to crush his dreams.
* '''Averted''':
** Bob doesn't have children.
** Bob and Charlie love each other.
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* '''Invoked''': Bob purposefully antagonizes his son so he has someone to fight and call his enemy.
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* '''Defied''': To avoid the prophecy, Bob becomes the best father Charlie could ever have, and they love each other.
* '''Discussed''': "You were my father once... you are just an evil SOB."
* '''Conversed''': "Last episode it turned out that the father was the evil mastermind."
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob and Charlie have to deal with the psychological turmoil of fighting their family member, wishing how things could have been different.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob and Charlie's absolute hatred for each other is rekindled as Bob [[MoralEventHorizon finally does something so unspeakably evil]] that Charlie's sole wish is to see his father die.
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