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** DesignatedHero
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*** Alternatively: She [[TookALevelInJerkass takes a level in jerkass]] to the point where she becomes a JerkassHero at best.
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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HatedByAll she becomes alienated and reviled from society]].

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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HatedByAll she becomes alienated and reviled from society]].
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** Alice kills criminals to make a world a better place, sounds good, right? Not when you realize the criminals she killed are no worse than a 2 bit {{con man}}, AND the fact that none of her victims killed anyone at all, [[DesignatedHero unlike her]]. Even worse, she both [[KarmaHoudini gets away scot-free]] and [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality gets portrayed in a sympathetic light despite her actions]]. This proves Alice is no better than the criminals she kills.
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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HeroWithBadPublicity she becomes alienated and ostracized from society]].

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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HeroWithBadPublicity [[HatedByAll she becomes alienated and ostracized reviled from society]].
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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HeroWithBadPublicity she becomes alienated and ostracized.]]

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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HeroWithBadPublicity she becomes alienated and ostracized.]]ostracized from society]].
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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HeroWithBadPublicity she becomes alienated and ostracized from society from her insatiable bloodshed.]]

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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HeroWithBadPublicity she becomes alienated and ostracized from society from her insatiable bloodshed.ostracized.]]
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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]]

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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]] At best, [[HeroWithBadPublicity she becomes alienated and ostracized from society from her insatiable bloodshed.]]
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** Alice is a [[PragmaticHero Pragmatic Heroine]].
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* '''Averted''': All the heroes in the story actually act conventionally heroic.

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* '''Averted''': [[IdealHero All the heroes in the story actually act conventionally heroic.]]

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** [[SociopathicHero Alice]] is so evil, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the villains find her disgusting.]]

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** [[SociopathicHero Alice]] is so evil, outright sociopathic, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the villains find her disgusting.]]



** VillainousProtagonist
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** VillainousProtagonist



Back to AntiHero.

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Back to the unscrupulous, ruthless, but overall heroic AntiHero.

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** [[ReformedButNotTamed Alice used to be a villain.]]



* '''Subverted''': Alice appears to be killing crooks left and right, but it turns out she [[BrainwashedAndCrazy didn't have control]] of her actions at the time; when she's back to normal, she's TheCape, through and through.

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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
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Alice appears to be killing crooks left and right, but it turns out she [[BrainwashedAndCrazy didn't have control]] of her actions at the time; when she's back to normal, she's TheCape, through and through.
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** Alternatively: Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.

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** Alternatively: [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Alice is arrested for killing a criminal because, as it turns out, murder is murder.]]

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* '''Double Subverted''': Alice is revealed to have been BrainwashedAndCrazy, but underneath that...she's just as brutal.

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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
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Alice is revealed to have been BrainwashedAndCrazy, but underneath that...she's just as brutal.brutal.
** [[BitchInSheepsClothing It was just an act to gain good publicity.]]
** She later [[HeelfaceTurn reforms,]] [[ReformedButNotTamed but she’s not tamed.]]
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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder millions of people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] cross the {{moral event horizon}}, Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] [[TinTyrant armor]] only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder millions of people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] cross the {{moral event horizon}}, Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] [[TinTyrant armor]] only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder millions of people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] cross the {{moral event horizon}} thousands of times, Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] [[TinTyrant armor]] only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder millions of people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] cross the {{moral event horizon}} thousands of times, horizon}}, Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] [[TinTyrant armor]] only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] [[TinTyrant armor]] only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder millions of people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] cross the {{moral event horizon}} thousands of times, Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] [[TinTyrant armor]] only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] armor only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] armor [[TinTyrant armor]] only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] armor only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All Alice [[VillainProtagonist Alice]] does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] armor only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] Dress up in [[EvilWearsBlack black]] [[SpikesOfVillainy spiky]] armor only [[EvilOverlord evil overlords]] would wear, [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declare she’s evil,]] [[ThatManIsDead Change her name to “Lord Alice Atrocity”,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] and yet the story ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] and yet [[UnreliableNarrator the story story]] ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] and yet the story ''still'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] and yet the story ''still'' ''[[InformedKindness still]]'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.

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** Alice is a lazy, hedonistic freeloader, but when the push comes to shove, she's a hero who stops bank robbers, {{evil overlords}} [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil people who steal content from the internet.]]

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** Alice is a lazy, hedonistic freeloader, but when the push comes to shove, she's a hero who stops bank robbers, {{evil overlords}} [[EvilOverlord evil overlords,]] [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil people who steal content from the internet.]]


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** All Alice does is just murder people for [[DisproportionateRetribution petty]] [[FelonyMisdemeanor reasons,]] and yet the story ''still'' [[DesignatedHero treats her like the hero.]] In other words, she is no hero.
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** Alice tries to bring about her own brand of harsh justice, but she lives in a SugarBowl society where there's hardly ever even any conflict -- Alice spends most of her time {{angst}}ing that there's nothing to {{Angst}} about.
** Alice is a lazy, hedonistic freeloader, but when the push comes to shove, she's a hero who stops bank robbers, evil overlords [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil people who steal content from the internet.]]

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** Alice [[GrumpyBear Alice]] tries to bring about her own brand of harsh justice, but she lives in a SugarBowl society where there's hardly ever even any conflict -- Alice spends most of her time {{angst}}ing that there's nothing to {{Angst}} about.
** Alice is a lazy, hedonistic freeloader, but when the push comes to shove, she's a hero who stops bank robbers, evil overlords {{evil overlords}} [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and]] [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil people who steal content from the internet.]]
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** [[SociopathicHero Alice]] is so evil, [[EvenEvilHasStandards even the villains find her disgusting.]]
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** DesignatedHero

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** Alice is a [[MrViceGuy Ms Vice Girl]].

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** Alice is a [[MrViceGuy Ms Ms. Vice Girl]].


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** Alice likes to think she's a heroic individual, [[DesignatedHero she's anything but]] and [[TheFriendNobodyLikes her fellow heroes and heroines aren't even convinced that she's good.]]
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** Alice is rapidly becoming [[NotSoDifferent just as brutal as]], [[HeWhoFightsMonsters if not WORSE than]], [[EvilVersusEvil her villains]], and when she's killed all of the real threats to society, she's still a dangerously unstable and violent individual.

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** Alice is rapidly becoming [[NotSoDifferent just as brutal as]], as, [[HeWhoFightsMonsters if not WORSE than]], [[EvilVersusEvil her villains]], and when she's killed all of the real threats to society, she's still a dangerously unstable and violent individual.
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'''Basic Trope''': A heroic character that is flawed and/or morally ambiguous.

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'''Basic Trope''': A heroic character that is flawed flawed, and/or morally ambiguous.ambiguous at worst.

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