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* ''{{Lensman}}''. EEDocSmith's classic saga can seem like a ClicheStorm of SpaceOpera tropes, but, of course, it ''started'' most of them.

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* ''{{Lensman}}''. EEDocSmith's ''Literature/{{Lensman}}''. Creator/EEDocSmith's classic saga can seem like a ClicheStorm of SpaceOpera tropes, but, of course, it ''started'' most of them.
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*** Overlapping with GoshDangitToHeck, almost everybody admonishes Holden not to swear when the worst thing he says is..."goddamn". This leads to modern readers, who hear words like [[ClusterFBomb "fuck"]] and [[PrecisionFStrike "shit"]] on a daily basis see Holden as more of a RuleAbidingRebel when he was, for his time, quite a potty-mouth.

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*** Overlapping with GoshDangitToHeck, almost everybody admonishes Holden not to swear when the worst thing he says is..."goddamn". This leads to modern readers, who hear words like [[ClusterFBomb "fuck"]] and [[PrecisionFStrike "shit"]] on a daily basis see basis, seeing Holden as more of a RuleAbidingRebel when he was, for his time, quite a potty-mouth.

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*** Overlapping with GoshDangitToHeck, almost everybody admonishes Holden not to swear when the worst thing he says is..."goddamn".

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*** Overlapping with GoshDangitToHeck, almost everybody admonishes Holden not to swear when the worst thing he says is..."goddamn". This leads to modern readers, who hear words like [[ClusterFBomb "fuck"]] and [[PrecisionFStrike "shit"]] on a daily basis see Holden as more of a RuleAbidingRebel when he was, for his time, quite a potty-mouth.

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** The use of a casual, first person writing style definitely contributes heavily to making it dated as well. The use of slang and turns of phrase that are alien to newcomers makes it strange to a reader.

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** The use of a casual, first person writing style definitely contributes heavily to making it dated as well. The use of slang and turns of phrase that are alien to newcomers makes it strange to a reader.
*** Overlapping with GoshDangitToHeck, almost everybody admonishes Holden not to swear when the worst thing he says is..."goddamn".

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** Tolkien might be an aversion to this trope. While there is no question he was influential in many regards to fantasy, very little of how he described various parts of his fantasy world actually survive in what is now considered generic fantasy. This also isn't factoring in that Tolkien was very inconsistent with a lot of his own lore. Depending on what you were reading, orcs and goblins ranged from being different words for the same exact creature, different tribes of the same creature that are identical, different tribes of the same creature except the goblin tribe was slightly shorter on average, two related species, or completely different and unrelated creatures.
*** But this still leaves us with, well, defining the stock races as mostly used today (elves existed prior in many different forms in different mythologies, from little wingy tinkerbells to something you'd call a dwarf in modern fantasy, while now everyone thinks "pointy ears"; orcs were new, at least the name; elf-dwarf relations; dwarfs as always bearded miners) as well as other more general formulae. Actually, quite a bit survived, especially in the common aspects of most fantasy.

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** Tolkien might be an aversion to this trope. While there is no question he was influential in many regards to fantasy, very little of how he described various parts of his fantasy world actually survive in what is now considered generic fantasy. This also isn't factoring in that Tolkien was very inconsistent with a lot of his own lore. Depending on what you were reading, orcs and goblins ranged from being different words for He gave the same exact creature, different tribes first definitions of the same creature that are identical, different tribes of the same creature except the goblin tribe was slightly shorter on average, two related species, or completely different and unrelated creatures.
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the stock races as mostly used today (elves today. Elves existed prior in many different forms in different mythologies, from little wingy tinkerbells [[{{Disney}} tinkerbells]] to something you'd call a dwarf in modern fantasy, while now fantasy '''dwarves'''; now, everyone thinks "pointy ears"; orcs ears" and intelligent beauty. Orcs were new, at least the name; a new name, and possibly didn't exist in that form in folklore. The elf-dwarf relations; dwarfs hostilies began in Tolkien. Dwarfs as always bearded miners) as well as other more general formulae. Actually, quite a bit survived, especially in the common aspects of most fantasy.miners, while that did exist before, was codified.
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* DashiellHammett and RaymondChandler. Their hard-boiled detective fiction certainly qualifies.

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* DashiellHammett and RaymondChandler.Creator/RaymondChandler. Their hard-boiled detective fiction certainly qualifies.
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* ''StrangerInAStrangeLand'' by RobertAHeinlein features a Jesus-like human from Mars who can perform telekinesis, telepathy, and miracle healing simply by meditating. He spends most of the novel trying to "understand earth behaviour" and ends up bringing his followers sexual liberation. Most people nowadays tend to forget that Heinlein wrote the novel in the ''fifties'' but that it was published in the sixties, It was deemed publishable only when the hippie movement was already well on its way and ended up as a huge influence on the mentality of the '60s and '70s (predating Jonathan Livingstone Seagull by over a decade). Many attitudes in modern New Age philosophy are taken directly from Heinlein's work, often disguised as ancient Eastern wisdom.

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* ''StrangerInAStrangeLand'' by RobertAHeinlein Creator/RobertAHeinlein features a Jesus-like human from Mars who can perform telekinesis, telepathy, and miracle healing simply by meditating. He spends most of the novel trying to "understand earth behaviour" and ends up bringing his followers sexual liberation. Most people nowadays tend to forget that Heinlein wrote the novel in the ''fifties'' but that it was published in the sixties, It was deemed publishable only when the hippie movement was already well on its way and ended up as a huge influence on the mentality of the '60s and '70s (predating Jonathan Livingstone Seagull by over a decade). Many attitudes in modern New Age philosophy are taken directly from Heinlein's work, often disguised as ancient Eastern wisdom.
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* ''Literature/TheGreatGodPan (1894)'' was a prototype CosmicHorrorStory, notable for "the cumulative suspense and ultimate horror with which every paragraph abounds". It was cited as a major influence by HPLovecraft, and (more recently) StephenKing. But part of the suspense is killed for the modern reader, who knows what to expect from the genre.

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* ''Literature/TheGreatGodPan (1894)'' was a prototype CosmicHorrorStory, notable for "the cumulative suspense and ultimate horror with which every paragraph abounds". It was cited as a major influence by HPLovecraft, and (more recently) StephenKing. But part of the suspense is killed for the modern reader, who knows what to expect from the genre.genre.
* ''TheTaleOfGenji''. It's considered one of the first modern novels, if not ''the'' first. Nowadays, it can be ''quite'' hard to get into.
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* ''Literature/{{The Catcher in the Rye}}'': J.D. Salinger's novel started a {{Wangst}} revolution in literature that it's never come out of. As a result, those who've read similar-style books before reading Salinger's book often write ''Catcher'' off as okay at best, a poor man's ChuckPalahniuk at worst.

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* ''Literature/{{The Catcher in the Rye}}'': ''Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye'': J.D. Salinger's novel started a {{Wangst}} revolution in literature that it's never come out of. As a result, those who've read similar-style books before reading Salinger's book often write ''Catcher'' off as okay at best, a poor man's ChuckPalahniuk at worst.



* ErnestHemingway. Read any other novel or watch a movie on wartime experiences before reading ''Literature/AFarewellToArms''. It'll end up looking like just another run-of-the-mill war story.

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* ErnestHemingway.Creator/ErnestHemingway. Read any other novel or watch a movie on wartime experiences before reading ''Literature/AFarewellToArms''. It'll end up looking like just another run-of-the-mill war story.



** Rice's ''VampireChronicles'' suffer from this even harder, if only because she was more prolific than Brite and she's much more well-known in the mainstream. Lestat in particular is the poster child for this. The "sexy Eurotrash rebel-without-a-cause in literal leather pants" character is so cliche in modern vampire fiction that people groan when they see it. Somewhat hilariously, it was a major criticism of the ''{{Queen of the Damned}}'' movie.

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** Rice's ''VampireChronicles'' suffer from this even harder, if only because she was more prolific than Brite and she's much more well-known in the mainstream. Lestat in particular is the poster child for this. The "sexy Eurotrash rebel-without-a-cause in literal leather pants" character is so cliche in modern vampire fiction that people groan when they see it. Somewhat hilariously, it was a major criticism of the ''{{Queen of the Damned}}'' ''QueenOfTheDamned'' movie.
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** Also, YourMileageMayVary but {{Wangst}} has been a part of literature ever since ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' or even ''RomeoAndJuliet'', it was just presented in such eloquent language that it seemed more legitimately emotional.

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** Also, YourMileageMayVary but {{Wangst}} has been a part of literature ever since ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' or even ''RomeoAndJuliet'', it was just presented in such eloquent language that it seemed more legitimately emotional.
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* JRRTolkien's ''LordOfTheRings'': This book popularized most of the cliches found in fantasy today, but modern readers may well find it unspeakably boring, purely because everything in it has since been subverted, inverted, parodied, and otherwise done to death. Aside from that though, it also has lots of UnbuiltTrope which are actually not like what non-readers think the book contains.

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* JRRTolkien's Creator/JRRTolkien's ''LordOfTheRings'': This book popularized most of the cliches found in fantasy today, but modern readers may well find it unspeakably boring, purely because everything in it has since been subverted, inverted, parodied, and otherwise done to death. Aside from that though, it also has lots of UnbuiltTrope which are actually not like what non-readers think the book contains.



* Creator/WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These works and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, Creator/JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.

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* Creator/WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These works and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, Creator/JRRTolkien, and CSLewis.Creator/CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.
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** The same goes for the inventors of "classic" detective fiction, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle and AgathaChristie in particular. Many of the stories and novels by both are stuffed with clichés and twists that a modern-day reader has seen a bit too often - but they invented them.

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** The same goes for the inventors of "classic" detective fiction, Creator/ArthurConanDoyle and AgathaChristie Creator/AgathaChristie in particular. Many of the stories and novels by both are stuffed with clichés and twists that a modern-day reader has seen a bit too often - but they invented them.
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** Tolkien's Elves were fallible, plenty of his characters (including mentor types like Gandalf and especially Thorin) exhibit GoodIsNotNice, he subverted and deconstructed AlwaysChaoticEvil, and LOTR has two twist endings. There might be bits buried in the Shannara books not ripped off from Tolkien, but those aren't among them. The AfterTheEnd setting cropped up years later due to CanonWelding rather than any particular piece of creative insight.
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** The same goes for the inventors of "classic" detective fiction, ArthurConanDoyle and AgathaChristie in particular. Many of the stories and novels by both are stuffed with clichés and twists that a modern-day reader has seen a bit too often - but they invented them.

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** The same goes for the inventors of "classic" detective fiction, ArthurConanDoyle Creator/ArthurConanDoyle and AgathaChristie in particular. Many of the stories and novels by both are stuffed with clichés and twists that a modern-day reader has seen a bit too often - but they invented them.
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* ''Amadis Of Gaul'' is the most important knight-errant ChivalricRomance of all time, but today it seems dated, to the point that it has been all but forgotten and replaced in importance by its extremely angry {{Deconstruction}}, ''Literature/DonQuixote''. Note, however, that ''Amadis Of Gaul'' is saved from the fire for its merits in the chapter where the library of Don Quixote is being burned.

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* ''Amadis Of of Gaul'' is the most important knight-errant ChivalricRomance of all time, but today it seems dated, to the point that it has been all but forgotten and replaced in importance by its extremely angry {{Deconstruction}}, ''Literature/DonQuixote''. Note, however, that ''Amadis Of of Gaul'' is saved from the fire for its merits in the chapter where the library of Don Quixote is being burned.



* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These works and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.

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* WilliamMorris Creator/WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These works and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, Creator/JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.
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* ''Literature/TheGreatGodPan (1894)'' was a prototype CosmicHorrorStory, notable for "the cumulative suspense and ultimate horror with which every paragraph abounds". It was cited as a major influence by HPLovecraft, and (more recently) StephenKing. But part of the suspense is killed for the modern reader, who knows what to expect ifrom the genre.

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* ''Literature/TheGreatGodPan (1894)'' was a prototype CosmicHorrorStory, notable for "the cumulative suspense and ultimate horror with which every paragraph abounds". It was cited as a major influence by HPLovecraft, and (more recently) StephenKing. But part of the suspense is killed for the modern reader, who knows what to expect ifrom from the genre.

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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These works and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.

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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These works and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.TheSeventies.
*''Literature/TheGreatGodPan (1894)'' was a prototype CosmicHorrorStory, notable for "the cumulative suspense and ultimate horror with which every paragraph abounds". It was cited as a major influence by HPLovecraft, and (more recently) StephenKing. But part of the suspense is killed for the modern reader, who knows what to expect ifrom the genre.
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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These worlks and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.

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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These worlks works and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.
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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End''. Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These worlks and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.

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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End''.End'' (1896). Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These worlks and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.
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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance gernre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End''. Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These worlks and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.

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* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance gernre genre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End''. Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These worlks and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.
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* ''AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'' (1889) has fallen victim to it. It was one of the earliest TimeTravel novels, and the protagonist's efforts to introduce "modern" technology and values in TheMiddleAges was groundbreaking on its own. However this idea was followed in (among others) ''Lest Darkness Fall'' (1941), which was itself influential in the AlternateHistory genre, ''Literature/TheCrossTimeEngineer'' series, the ''SixteenThirtyTwo'' series, and ''{{Timeline}}''. While The Man Who Came Early (1956) by PoulAnderson served as an influential {{Deconstruction}} of the concept. Nowadays its hard to realize what was unique in the original novel.

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* ''AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'' (1889) has fallen victim to it. It was one of the earliest TimeTravel novels, and the protagonist's efforts to introduce "modern" technology and values in TheMiddleAges was groundbreaking on its own. However this idea was followed in (among others) ''Lest Darkness Fall'' (1941), which was itself influential in the AlternateHistory genre, ''Literature/TheCrossTimeEngineer'' series, the ''SixteenThirtyTwo'' series, and ''{{Timeline}}''. While The Man Who Came Early (1956) by PoulAnderson served as an influential {{Deconstruction}} of the concept. Nowadays its hard to realize what was unique in the original novel.novel.
* WilliamMorris (1834-1896) attempted to revive the ChivalricRomance gernre with novels ''The Wood Beyond the World'' (1894) and ''The Well at the World's End''. Creating "an entirely invented fantasy world" as their setting. These worlks and his earlier HistoricalFantasy novels influenced writers such as LordDunsany, Eric Rücker Eddison, James Branch Cabell, JRRTolkien, and CSLewis. Problem is that they are among the founding works of MedievalEuropeanFantasy. And had a noticeable influence in the development of HeroicFantasy, HighFantasy, and even the CthulhuMythos. There is now nothing innovative about creating an invented world, and his works were considered dated by TheSeventies.
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* Science fiction in general. Technologies that used to be completely fantastic tend to become TruthInTelevision decades later. See also TechnologyMarchesOn.

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* Science fiction in general. Technologies that used to be completely fantastic tend to become TruthInTelevision decades later. See also TechnologyMarchesOn.TechnologyMarchesOn.
* ''AConnecticutYankeeInKingArthursCourt'' (1889) has fallen victim to it. It was one of the earliest TimeTravel novels, and the protagonist's efforts to introduce "modern" technology and values in TheMiddleAges was groundbreaking on its own. However this idea was followed in (among others) ''Lest Darkness Fall'' (1941), which was itself influential in the AlternateHistory genre, ''Literature/TheCrossTimeEngineer'' series, the ''SixteenThirtyTwo'' series, and ''{{Timeline}}''. While The Man Who Came Early (1956) by PoulAnderson served as an influential {{Deconstruction}} of the concept. Nowadays its hard to realize what was unique in the original novel.
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* ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' nowadays seems ''just'' like a lot of other books you've probably read several times by now. Kids discovering a mysterious pathway to another world, finding their arrival to this strange new world to be predicted in prophecy, some of the residents are pleased to find them while others want them all dead, and soon everyone embarks on a large adventure to save the world... Yeah, it doesn't sound too original today. It almost sounds kind of like some children's stories, shounen manga series, a few video games, and a typical FanFic plot. Oh, and as for biblical references? ''* Yawn* ''. Name something today that ''doesn't'' draw from TheBible heavily.

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* ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' nowadays seems ''just'' like a lot of other books you've probably read several times by now. Kids discovering a mysterious pathway to another world, finding their arrival to this strange new world to be predicted in prophecy, some of the residents are pleased to find them while others want them all dead, and soon everyone embarks on a large adventure to save the world... Yeah, it doesn't sound too original today. It almost sounds kind of like some children's stories, shounen manga series, a few video games, and a typical FanFic plot. Oh, and as for biblical references? ''* Yawn* ''. Name something today that ''doesn't'' [[FauxSymbolism draw from from]] TheBible heavily.
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*** Try since {{Homer}}. Achilles sitting in his tent sulking, even after Agamemnon apologises, because he's the hero.

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*** Try since {{Homer}}. [[AchillesInHisTent Achilles sitting in his tent sulking, sulking]], even after Agamemnon apologises, because he's the hero.
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* ''Amadis Of Gaul'' is the most important knight-errant ChivalricRomance of all time, but today it seems dated, to the point that it has been all but forgotten and replaced in importance by its extremely angry {{Deconstruction}}, ''DonQuixote''. Note, however, that ''Amadis Of Gaul'' is saved from the fire for its merits in the chapter where the library of Don Quixote is being burned.

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** ''DragonLance'' suffers from this trope as well, alas. Reviews exist of the original Chronicles that tear them apart on the premise that it's such a cheesy/overdone/cliched setting and cast of characters.
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* ''{{The Catcher in the Rye}}'': J.D. Salinger's novel started a {{Wangst}} revolution in literature that it's never come out of. As a result, those who've read similar-style books before reading Salinger's book often write ''Catcher'' off as okay at best, a poor man's ChuckPalahniuk at worst.

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common in fandom circles. Not with the general public. Sword was the first high-fantasy novel to be highly successful on its own, and it convinced publishers that fantasy could stand as a genre separate from sci-fi. It was hailed in the press for being an amazing work, etc. Fantasy fandoms are Small Reference Pools man.


** Well, possibly there were a few people who wouldn't have, but many people absolutely did view ''TheSwordOfShannara'' as a blatant rip-off of ''TheLordOfTheRings'' when it first came out. Jokes predicated on its derivative nature were extremely common in fandom circles at the time.
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* ''Amadis Of Gaul'' is the most important knight-errant ChivalricRomance of all time, but today it seems dated, to the point that it has been all but forgotten and replaced in importance by its extremely angry {{Deconstruction}}, ''DonQuixote''. Note, however, that ''Amadis Of Gaul'' is saved from the fire for its merits in the chapter where the library of Don Quixote is being burned.
* ''AreYouThereGodItsMeMargaret'' is seen as a pretty tame book by today's standards, but its frank discussion of puberty and religious issues were controversial in the 70s when it was written and resulted in it being banned from many schools.
* ''BallFour'', a 1970 book by Major League Baseball pitcher Jim Bouton, was so controversial that MLB commissioner Bowie Kuhn called the book "detrimental to baseball" and tried unsuccessfully to make Bouton sign a statement saying the book was fictional. Today, its revelations about the behind-the-scenes activities of major league players, which made Bouton extremely unpopular among many in the baseball community for violating the "sanctity of the clubhouse", don't seem nearly as shocking. One particular example is the book's revelation of widespread amphetamine use by major league players, which seems quaint compared to the steroid scandals of recent years.
* ''{{The Catcher in the Rye}}'': J.D. Salinger's novel started a {{Wangst}} revolution in literature that it's never come out of. As a result, those who've read similar-style books before reading Salinger's book often write ''Catcher'' off as okay at best, a poor man's ChuckPalahniuk at worst.
** The use of a casual, first person writing style definitely contributes heavily to making it dated as well. The use of slang and turns of phrase that are alien to newcomers makes it strange to a reader.
** Also, YourMileageMayVary but {{Wangst}} has been a part of literature ever since ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' or even ''RomeoAndJuliet'', it was just presented in such eloquent language that it seemed more legitimately emotional.
*** Try since {{Homer}}. Achilles sitting in his tent sulking, even after Agamemnon apologises, because he's the hero.
* ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' nowadays seems ''just'' like a lot of other books you've probably read several times by now. Kids discovering a mysterious pathway to another world, finding their arrival to this strange new world to be predicted in prophecy, some of the residents are pleased to find them while others want them all dead, and soon everyone embarks on a large adventure to save the world... Yeah, it doesn't sound too original today. It almost sounds kind of like some children's stories, shounen manga series, a few video games, and a typical FanFic plot. Oh, and as for biblical references? ''* Yawn* ''. Name something today that ''doesn't'' draw from TheBible heavily.
* DashiellHammett and RaymondChandler. Their hard-boiled detective fiction certainly qualifies.
** The same goes for the inventors of "classic" detective fiction, ArthurConanDoyle and AgathaChristie in particular. Many of the stories and novels by both are stuffed with clichés and twists that a modern-day reader has seen a bit too often - but they invented them.
* The ''{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/EqualRites'' was originally a subversion of the "witches = bad, wizards = good" trends in fantasy. However, the conventions used have since become so commonplace that today the book just sounds preachy.
** TerryPratchett was amused to be told he was 'following in the grand tradition of JKRowling', given that he's been writing and published for two decades longer.
* DrSeuss. When he started producing books for children featuring nonsensical word usage and surreal art, he was considered both genius and highly controversial, which tends to go right over the heads of modern readers.
* ''{{Dracula}}'' being the ultimate vampire TropeMaker, has been so thoroughly ripped off, parodied, retooled and revamped that even many {{Goth}}s are sick of him.
** To a lesser extent, this happened to Dracula's precursor, ''Literature/VarneyTheVampire'', which invented the idea of a vampire with fangs, puncture marks on the throat, and [[AntiVillain the sympathetic vampire]]. However, despite its influence it was never a particularly good book to begin with.
** Dracula is an interesting case, in that he has become so LostInImitation, those who read the original novel are generally shocked by his inhuman appearance, total amorality (Stoker's Dracula never showed any signs of guilt or love), and clever schemes, rather than the endless tales of tragic beauty and VampireVords that he is incorrectly remembered for.
* ''DragonridersOfPern'' started the DragonRider trend in the 1960s, and you would be hard-pressed to find current fantasy writers who ''don't'' make dragons a BondCreature in some way.
* The ''DungeonsAndDragons'' books. People new to it (and in particular the ForgottenRealms novels) and who scoff at Drizzt being the emo badass rebel from an evil society don't realize just what hot shit those books were in the early '90s--and that they inspired a lot of the clichés they deride the books for using. Author R. A. Salvatore has even had readers come up to him at conventions to say "A good duel-wielding Drow ranger? How cliche!"
* ErnestHemingway. Read any other novel or watch a movie on wartime experiences before reading ''Literature/AFarewellToArms''. It'll end up looking like just another run-of-the-mill war story.
* [[HPLovecraft Howard P. Lovecraft]]. Compared to some of the tropes they've arguably spawned, certain stories of his can come across as charmingly old-fashioned and not necessarily all that horrifying to the modern reader. Or, in the case of his obvious racism, not-so-charming.
* JaneAusten and to a lesser extent the Bronte sisters suffer from this. Their novels have had a massive influence on romance novels to the point that they may appear hopelessly clichéd and even a bit low brow because of the countless imitators.
* ''The Joy of Sex'' and ''Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Sex* * but Were Afraid to Ask'' weren't trite when they were published.
* ''{{Lensman}}''. EEDocSmith's classic saga can seem like a ClicheStorm of SpaceOpera tropes, but, of course, it ''started'' most of them.
* ''LostSouls''. While PoppyZBrite's novel probably didn't originate of a lot of vampire clichés -- bisexual, seductive vampires, New Orleans, Goths, HoYay -- these tropes were a lot fresher when she and AnneRice wrote their books.
** Rice's ''VampireChronicles'' suffer from this even harder, if only because she was more prolific than Brite and she's much more well-known in the mainstream. Lestat in particular is the poster child for this. The "sexy Eurotrash rebel-without-a-cause in literal leather pants" character is so cliche in modern vampire fiction that people groan when they see it. Somewhat hilariously, it was a major criticism of the ''{{Queen of the Damned}}'' movie.
* JRRTolkien's ''LordOfTheRings'': This book popularized most of the cliches found in fantasy today, but modern readers may well find it unspeakably boring, purely because everything in it has since been subverted, inverted, parodied, and otherwise done to death. Aside from that though, it also has lots of UnbuiltTrope which are actually not like what non-readers think the book contains.
** Tolkien might be an aversion to this trope. While there is no question he was influential in many regards to fantasy, very little of how he described various parts of his fantasy world actually survive in what is now considered generic fantasy. This also isn't factoring in that Tolkien was very inconsistent with a lot of his own lore. Depending on what you were reading, orcs and goblins ranged from being different words for the same exact creature, different tribes of the same creature that are identical, different tribes of the same creature except the goblin tribe was slightly shorter on average, two related species, or completely different and unrelated creatures.
*** But this still leaves us with, well, defining the stock races as mostly used today (elves existed prior in many different forms in different mythologies, from little wingy tinkerbells to something you'd call a dwarf in modern fantasy, while now everyone thinks "pointy ears"; orcs were new, at least the name; elf-dwarf relations; dwarfs as always bearded miners) as well as other more general formulae. Actually, quite a bit survived, especially in the common aspects of most fantasy.
* MichaelMoorcock. A good bit of his work falls into this, especially ''TheElricSaga''. Like ''LordOfTheRings'' he created or expanded upon many fantasy tropes that are commonplace now. Hell, even one of the introductions to the new paperback collections of Elric's tale states this. Also all that crazy-ass, sexually deviant, creature-of-their-time, lone wolf super spy stuff (different from the way JamesBond does it, mind you)? Well, that's [[TheCorneliusChornicles Jerry Cornelius]], possibly Moorcock's second most famous creation.
* ''{{Neuromancer}}'' by William Gibson was hailed as a radical departure that overturned science fiction with its noir mood, gritty realism, and dystopian outlook. Now CyberPunk looks old-fashioned and passe to some, and ShinyLookingSpaceships are back in vogue as unironic extensions of modern consumer products.
* ''Literature/TheNeverendingStory''. Similar to ''TheChroniclesOfNarnia'', it can seem an awful lot like a rather standard read, albeit a [[DoorStopper long one]] for children. A child finds a mysterious book that appears to be a gateway to another world. He appears to have found himself written into the story of this mysterious new world, and finds himself embarking on all sorts of adventures in a realm of fantasy powered by human imagination, becoming part of it all along the way, then finally departing home at the end after almost losing himself to his own fantasy and defeating the BigBad. Even if the entire story wasn't replicated ''too'' too much (''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' comes close, however), a lot of the book's themes seem a bit...well, cliché. The plot itself doesn't seem to be anything new either.
* ''Paul Clifford''. Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton's fifth novel, was an immense commercial success when first published. Today, it is remembered only as the origin of the notorious "ItWasADarkAndStormyNight".
* SherlockHolmes. Some argue that he qualifies as a "stock character", arguing that even though he was the ''origin'' of various clichés, to a modern reader they are just clichés.
** There was a Holmes story in which Holmes is sure that he got the right guy, but the guy has an alibi. What could possibly be going on? Can you figure it out? Turns out [[spoiler:the guy had an identical twin]]. Bet you never saw that one coming, did you?
** Holmes is a fleshed-out version of EdgarAllanPoe's Auguste Dupin. Dupin can extrapolate from tiny clues, scoffs at the clueless police and has a narrator friend who worships him. There's actually a LampshadeHanging on this in the very first Holmes story.
* The ''SnowCrash'' physical manifestation of the internet can come off as either a brilliant, eerie prediction of the future or a "I know this already" unsurprising setting depending on whether you read it before or after ''SecondLife'' proved ''everything.''
* "ASoundOfThunder", a short story by RayBradbury, was about time travelers who went back to prehistoric times, killed a butterfly, and accidently caused a fascist candidate to win the presidential elections. Which was a really original plot, when it was written. However, those story elements are so trite now that when the movie loosely based on the story was made, it was criticized for using old, tired cliches.
* StephenKing's books have fallen into this due to so many modern horror writers copying his style. When he first published ''SalemsLot'' and ''{{Carrie}}'', the idea of bringing horror out of gothic castles and into average New England towns revitalized the genre.
* ''StrangerInAStrangeLand'' by RobertAHeinlein features a Jesus-like human from Mars who can perform telekinesis, telepathy, and miracle healing simply by meditating. He spends most of the novel trying to "understand earth behaviour" and ends up bringing his followers sexual liberation. Most people nowadays tend to forget that Heinlein wrote the novel in the ''fifties'' but that it was published in the sixties, It was deemed publishable only when the hippie movement was already well on its way and ended up as a huge influence on the mentality of the '60s and '70s (predating Jonathan Livingstone Seagull by over a decade). Many attitudes in modern New Age philosophy are taken directly from Heinlein's work, often disguised as ancient Eastern wisdom.
** A lot of Heinlein's works have ended up as this simply due to the sheer amount of influence he had on science fiction at the time. ''StarshipTroopers'' and ''ThePuppetMasters'' are two especially good examples.
* ''UncleTomsCabin'': The characters seem incredibly stereotyped to modern eyes because the popularity of the book -- and the minstrel shows inspired by or at least [[InNameOnly named for]] it -- ''established'' those very stereotypes.
* ''TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy'': This book heavily influenced geek humor during the 1980s but now the humor seems too cerebral to today's audience. Also, Douglas Adams' humor doesn't translate well from the written page to the spoken-out-loud format due to his verbosity and the lower attention span of the modern audience. That would explain the 2005 movie which either didn't include most of the iconic lines from the book, altered them to sound more American, or substituted visual humor.
** Notwithstanding that the book was originally an adaptation from the Radio series.
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* The ''{{Shannara}}'' franchise, particularly ''TheSwordOfShannara''. People today tend to look at it and see a blatant rip-off of ''TheLordOfTheRings''. At the time, people wouldn't have, due to Brooks' other innovations, including Elves that were human and fallible, a {{Mentor}} who was a whopping example of GoodIsNotNice, the aversion of AlwaysChaoticEvil, and of course, the twist ending ([[spoiler:The Sword convinces TheBigBad of his DeadAllAlong status]]), and the AfterTheEnd setting. Nowadays all those things are so common that modern readers tend only to notice the flaws and the similarities to ''Lord of the Rings'', instead of the differences.
** Well, possibly there were a few people who wouldn't have, but many people absolutely did view ''TheSwordOfShannara'' as a blatant rip-off of ''TheLordOfTheRings'' when it first came out. Jokes predicated on its derivative nature were extremely common in fandom circles at the time.
* ''AnnieOnMyMind''. The villains are one-dimensional, the romance develops in a short time (a month or so), and the heroes, {{Woobie}}s or not, make some stupid decisions. These tend to turn people off the to the book. They forget that this was ''the'' first book to portray lesbians in a positive light, without having them [[CureYourGays turn straight]] or [[BuryYourGays die]].
* Science fiction in general. Technologies that used to be completely fantastic tend to become TruthInTelevision decades later. See also TechnologyMarchesOn.

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