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15th Mar '17 5:30:34 PM TroperBeDoper
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*** It should be noted that the Lasgun is many time stated to be able to completely destoy a slab of cement with a single shot. By modern standards, it would be the equivalent of shooting with an automatic, recoil-less, 50. anti-armor rifle with unlimited ammunition. By W40K standards, it is little better than a flashlight. Let me state this again : One of the weakest, puniest, most easily mass-produced weapons of the Imperium which can be used as expendable hand-grenades by imperial guardsmen in times of need, could destroy a modern battle tank in a single shot. This gives you some insight into the sheer strength, toughness and resilience of what these common men have to face doesn't it?

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*** It should be noted that the Lasgun is many time stated to be able to completely destoy a slab of cement with a single shot. By modern standards, it would be the equivalent of shooting with an automatic, recoil-less, 50. anti-armor rifle with unlimited ammunition. By W40K [=W40K=] standards, it is little better than a flashlight. Let me state this again : One of the weakest, puniest, most easily mass-produced weapons of the Imperium which can be used as expendable hand-grenades by imperial guardsmen in times of need, could destroy a modern battle tank in a single shot. This gives you some insight into the sheer strength, toughness and resilience of what these common men have to face doesn't it?
15th Mar '17 3:43:02 PM TroperBeDoper
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** Now in [[http://img0.joyreactor.cc/pics/post/%D1%84%D1%8D%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%8B-chaos-space-marines-iron-warriors-%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B5-%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8B-928994.jpeg IMAGE FORM!]] '''(WARNING: EXTREMELY NSFW AND DISTURBING)'''
-->'''1d4chan.org:''' And then Slaanesh is just looking at all this with interest, their eyes narrowed, and it says; "hmm, that's an interesting act, what do you call yourselves?" and Honsou sticks his chest out and goes; "TheAristocrats!"
13th Mar '17 9:46:27 AM Yukianesa
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** The Iron Warriors are arguably the most unpleasant of all the legions for the fact that while the others are amoral and often insane bastards, [[EvenEvilHasStandards they at least have some measure of humanity, martial brotherhood and honour]], or at the absolute least value what they have in a material sense. The Iron Warriors only value their hatred and their opportunities to express it. In the Iron Warriors, astartes and humans alike are just things to be fed to the legion's war apparatus. Nothing is sacred, everyone is expendable, and victory is all that matters, no matter how dirty it has to be won or how many have to die to get it. [[HumanResources Grinding down the remains of their own dead when rations run low]] is common practice. Even Chaos itself is just seen as a weapon to be used.
11th Mar '17 7:19:22 PM TroperBeDoper
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** For some visual aid; here's a darker (and, it could be said, Imperial) view of [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110728054210/warhammer40k/images/a/aa/Kurguz_the_Marauder.jpg the Orks]].

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** For some visual aid; here's a darker (and, it could be said, Imperial) view of [[http://images4.[[http://warhammer40k.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110728054210/warhammer40k/images/a/aa/Kurguz_the_Marauder.com/wiki/File:Kurguz_the_Marauder.jpg the Orks]].
7th Mar '17 5:11:50 PM TwilightCrow
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** Their rictus masks and holosuits are grotesque, constantly shimmering and in motion, garish and baroque to many extremes. Death Jesters are another example, and in addition to wielding heavy weapons they can load their aptly-named [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Shrieker Cannons]] with viral shuriken ammo that causes enemies to [[{{Gorn}} explode into many pieces]], showering their allies with gore. Oh, and Solitaires as well.

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** Their rictus masks and holosuits are grotesque, constantly shimmering and in motion, garish and baroque to many extremes. Death Jesters are another example, and in addition to wielding heavy weapons they can load their aptly-named [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Shrieker Cannons]] with viral shuriken ammo that causes enemies to [[{{Gorn}} explode into many pieces]], showering their allies with gore. Oh, and They also love DeathByIrony attacks, like causing a Daemon to tumble into its own death machine.
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Solitaires as well.are Harlequins that have the responsibility to play Slaanesh in their dramas. Doing so damns them, irrevocably, to Slaanesh when they die. Other Eldar are afraid to even speak to them, to the point they will '''commit suicide''' rather than live for whatever terrible fate awaits them if they accidentally touch or speak to one.
27th Feb '17 3:17:42 AM Stranrep
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** Oh, and Leviathan? It's still implied to be a scouting fleet. The main body of the Tyranids is implied to be so large that the Imperium would need to increase their military at least 500% ust to survive.

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** Oh, and Leviathan? It's still implied to be a scouting fleet. The main body of the Tyranids is implied to be so large that the Imperium would need to increase their military at least 500% ust just to survive.
22nd Feb '17 3:52:50 PM TwilightCrow
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** Some Loyalist Chapters have you wondering if there isn't something...very wrong with them. [[EverythingsEvenWorseWithSharks Charcarodons]] specialize in brutal assaults that use terrorist tactics to force compliance. [[HunterOfHisOwnKind Minotaurs]] test the WeHaveReserves method of the Imperium to its limit before coming in themselves and favor fighting ''other loyalists.'' [[ConditionedToAcceptHorror Exorcists]] force their scouts to be possessed by demons and force them out through sheer willpower.[[/folder]]

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** Some Loyalist Chapters have you wondering if there isn't something...very wrong with them. There is something deeply disturbing about certain loyalist chapters. Let's take one example, the [[EverythingsEvenWorseWithSharks Charcarodons]] specialize Charcharodons]]. These guys appeared out of nowhere during the [[CivilWar Badab War]]. They sought out the Inquisitor in brutal assaults that use terrorist tactics charge, offered their service in High Latin, then...did so. They ''deliberately'' target civilian populations to force compliance. [[HunterOfHisOwnKind Minotaurs]] test the WeHaveReserves method of separatists to defend them. They fight in [[TranquilFury complete silence]] while using close quarters weapons and infiltration to cause maximum panic. On the Imperium to its limit before coming in themselves way out? They take the [[WouldHurtaChild youth]] of their surrendered foes and favor fighting ''other loyalists.'' force them to fight to the death to replenish their numbers. It's implied this is pretty normal for them.
*** Other disturbing loyalists include the
[[ConditionedToAcceptHorror Exorcists]] Exorcists]], who force [[DemonicPossession daemons to possess their scouts recruits]], executing them if they fail to force the Daemon out with sheer willpower and the Minotaurs, who are implied to be possessed by demons and an execution force them out through sheer willpower.against [[HunterofHisOwnKind other loyalist marines]].[[/folder]]
19th Feb '17 5:38:08 PM Yukianesa
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** The really scary thing about the Alpha Legion is just the fact that [[PunctuatedForEmphasis they. Are.]] '''[[WeAreEverywhere Everywhere.]]''' Let's talk the Night of the Thousand Rebellions: they made the ''entire'' Segmentum Pacificus (''[[HolyShitQuotient that's roughly 15% of the whole Imperium]]'') secede by launching cultist uprisings across hundreds of thousands of worlds which all occured simultaneously. Even the Lions Defiant Space Marines found themselves battling Alpha Legion forces on their own homeworld. The Alpha Legion are also the people who hypno-brainwash the natives of Astartes recruiting worlds and then trigger the unwitting recruits to turn on their own brethren just in time for an attack on their fortress-monastery. Oh, and they also have a nasty tactic of [[DressingAsTheEnemy directly infiltrating loyalist chapters]] and using Imperial battle cries to throw Imperial forces off. ''Just how do you fight an army that operates like this!?''
15th Feb '17 12:06:06 PM HunterSeeker
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*** A common misconception among fandom is to depict every Black Crusade as an attempt to march to Terra that was stalled at the very beginning on Cadia due to Abaddon's incompetence. While in fact, most of the [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130831031104/warhammer40k/images/e/ea/BlackCrusades3.jpg Black Crusades]] slipped past Cadia and went for their objectives with little difficulty. It should be noted that most Black Crusades were not an all out assault against the Imperium, but rather quite a limited operation with a certain goal in mind. The only Black Crusade that was stalled at Cadia for some time was the 13th one. [[note]]The manner GW handles updates makes strong impression that Abaddon tries and fails to capture one little planet for 20 straight years getting beaten over and over, since the first Eye of Terror codex was published. In in-universe terms the 13th Black Crusade has just started. The timeline ends at the very start of the 13th Black Crusade and it will remain unresolved until GW decides to move the plot along. Which is most likely never.[[/note]] Almost all the Black Crusades were launched to achieve a certain, very limited goal. Be it the powerful artifact, intel, resources, slaves, tech specs, wipe of some Space Marines Chapter, ancient Death Star battlestations, Abaddon will get it, ditch the his allies and fall back to Eye of Terror with his Black Legion troops. The incoming reinforcements of Imperium crush the disorganized rabble of Chaos warbands and report about their glorious victory over the Warmaster's forces. Yet Black Legion suffers next to no losses, gains tonns of resources and manpower to build more ships and war machines, while the value (and danger for the Imperium) of the fully activated Blackstone Fortresses or the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Planetkiller]] simply cannot be measured. LongGame as its finest.

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*** A common misconception among fandom is to depict every Black Crusade as an attempt to march to Terra that was stalled at the very beginning on Cadia due to Abaddon's incompetence. While in fact, most of the [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130831031104/warhammer40k/images/e/ea/BlackCrusades3.jpg Black Crusades]] slipped past Cadia and went for their objectives with little difficulty. It should be noted that most Black Crusades were not an all out assault against the Imperium, but rather quite a limited operation with a certain goal in mind. The only Black Crusade that was stalled at Cadia for some time was the 13th one. [[note]]The manner GW handles updates makes strong impression that Abaddon tries and fails to capture one little planet for 20 straight years getting beaten over and over, since the first Eye of Terror codex was published. In in-universe terms the 13th Black Crusade has just started. The timeline ends at the very start of the 13th Black Crusade and it will remain unresolved until GW decides to move the plot along. Which is most likely never.[[/note]] Almost all the Black Crusades were launched to achieve a certain, very limited goal. Be it the powerful artifact, intel, resources, slaves, tech specs, wipe of some Space Marines Chapter, ancient Death Star battlestations, Abaddon will get it, ditch the his allies and fall back to Eye of Terror with his Black Legion troops. The incoming reinforcements of Imperium crush the disorganized rabble of Chaos warbands and report about their glorious victory over the Warmaster's forces. Yet Black Legion suffers next to no losses, gains tonns of resources and manpower to build more ships and war machines, while the value (and danger for the Imperium) of the fully activated Blackstone Fortresses or the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Planetkiller]] simply cannot be measured. LongGame as its finest.finest.
*** And as the timeline moves on, [[spoiler:Abaddon destroyed Cadia]]. Yes, you read that right, Abaddon did not fight in the meat grinder for nothing, [[spoiler:he is aiming at destroying the last known planet which can hinder the growth of the Eye, and he succeeeded]]. Not only he is no longer GeneralFailure, his LongGame is now set in motion as he planned. Seeing [[spoiler:[[EnemyMine the combined might of Imperium, Eldar, Dark Eldar and even Necrons]] can't put a halt to the Despoiler]] makes you wonder who can now stop his advance.
14th Feb '17 9:34:12 PM TroperBeDoper
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** Even worse when Literature/TheBeastArises series reveals [[spoiler:Ghaz ''is'' the next coming of The Beast. The universe at large is in deep shit.]]
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