History NightmareFuel / Warhammer40000

13th Mar '18 6:08:24 AM SuperFeatherYoshi
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** All Vespid Strain Leaders are equipped with translators call Communion Helms given to them by the Tau. Vespids are the only species in the Tau Empire that require such devices. [[{{WMG}} They are also the species that most quickly and easily accepted integration into the Empire]].

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** All Vespid Strain Leaders are equipped with translators call Communion Helms given to them by the Tau. Vespids are the only species in the Tau Empire that require such devices. [[{{WMG}} [[ParanoiaFuel They are also the species that most quickly and easily accepted integration into the Empire]].
14th Feb '18 12:14:10 PM Wooboo
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* ''Warhammer 40k'' is a series that's full of [[GiantMook big things]] with [[{{BFG}} big guns]] that do big damage. But few of these weapons can go [[InvisibilityCloak invisible]]. The '''[=XV15=] Stealthsuit''' is fairly small by ''Warhammer 40k'' standards. It's barely bigger than the Fire Warrior piloting it. Yet it manages to become an absolute nightmare due to the simple fact that it has one of the most scarily effective stealth systems in the setting. Using light-bending technologies coupled with thermal signature dampeners and a sound-nullifying field, the [=XV15=] is capable hiding whilst being completely undetectable, only to uncloak and attack its foes and then vanish again before they can mount a counter-attack. Armed with powerful burst cannons capable of [[LudicrousGibs tearing an Imperial Guardsman to pieces]] in mere seconds, and you've got a source of some pretty significant ParanoiaFuel. Oh, and then there's the '''[=XV25=] Stealthsuit''', which uses the same cloaking system as the [=XV15=], only with more armor, more survival systems and the ability to use even larger Fusion Blasters that can completely sublimate a human being.

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* ''Warhammer 40k'' is a series that's full of [[GiantMook big things]] with [[{{BFG}} big guns]] that do big damage. But few of these weapons weapons, soldiers or vehicles can go [[InvisibilityCloak invisible]]. The '''[=XV15=] Stealthsuit''' is fairly small by ''Warhammer 40k'' standards. It's barely bigger than the Fire Warrior piloting it. Yet it manages to become an absolute nightmare due to the simple fact that it has one of the most scarily effective stealth systems in the setting. Using light-bending technologies coupled with thermal signature dampeners and a sound-nullifying field, the [=XV15=] is capable of hiding whilst being completely undetectable, only to uncloak and attack its foes and then vanish again before they can mount a counter-attack. Armed Combine that with powerful burst cannons Burst Cannons capable of [[LudicrousGibs tearing an Imperial Guardsman to pieces]] in mere seconds, and you've got a source of some pretty significant ParanoiaFuel. Oh, and then there's the '''[=XV25=] Stealthsuit''', which uses the same cloaking system as the [=XV15=], only with more armor, more survival systems and the ability to use even larger Fusion Blasters that can completely sublimate a human being.
14th Feb '18 12:08:18 PM Wooboo
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* ''Warhammer 40k'' is a series that's full of [[GiantMook big things]] with [[{{BFG}} big guns]] that do big damage. But few of these weapons can go [[InvisibilityCloak invisible]]. The '''[=XV15=] Stealthsuit''' is fairly small by ''Warhammer 40k'' standards. It's barely bigger than the Fire Warrior piloting it. Yet it manages to become an absolute nightmare due to the simple fact that it has one of the most scarily effective stealth systems in the setting. Using light-bending technologies coupled with thermal signature dampeners and a sound-nullifying field, the [=XV15=] is capable hiding whilst being completely undetectable, only to uncloak and attack its foes and then vanish again before they can mount a counter-attack. Armed with powerful burst cannons capable of [[LudicrousGibs tearing an Imperial Guardsman to pieces]] in mere seconds, and you've got a source of some pretty significant ParanoiaFuel. Oh, and then there's the '''[=XV25=] Stealthsuit''', which uses the same cloaking system as the [=XV15=], only with more armor, more survival systems and the ability to use even larger Fusion Blasters that can completely sublimate a human being.
13th Feb '18 8:25:39 AM TomTheEducator
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** Taking that already pants-fillingly scary idea and running with it, look at the galactic map of Tyranid invasions. Those tendrils look like fingers, don't they? Which is what's essentially happening: a massive hand is closing around the Milky Way Galaxy, like a human grabbing a piping-hot doughnut. Oh, it'll burn and scald and blister as countless trillions of Space Marines, Eldar, Imperial Guard, Orks, Necrons, Chaos and Tau legions fight back... but it's only the hand. Think how small your hand is compared to the rest of your body. That's how large the main Tyranid fleet is. And they're already tightening their grip...
21st Jan '18 5:27:51 PM woerer1
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* In case you think the Imperium's FantasticRacism policy wasn't horrific enough, there's still good ol' fashioned inter-human bigotry in the 41st Millennium. Lastrari was a planet cut off from the Imperium and taken over by religious extremists called the Divine Army, who instituted planet-wide purges of anyone who didn't meet their spectacularly lofty ideals. The engineered plagues that targetted specific genes were nothing next to the 5300-mile road lined with the bodies of those who spoke out. Lastrari had a population of 14 billion people when the Imperium lost contact. When the Imperium regained contact, it had shrunk to two and a half ''million''. What's really scary is in the Imperium, ''stuff like this isn't uncommon''.
2nd Jan '18 9:38:25 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* The Emperor Webway project. The plan was to use the psychic power of the Emperor to dig a hole in reality leading to the Eldar Webway, while simultaneously fortifying it against Daemons. This eventually proved to be too draining even for the Emperor's enormous power when he had to leave the Great Crusade and take his place on a psychic amplifier, the Golden Throne. Then Magnus happened and crushed the barriers in the human webway tunnel leading to a massive demonic invasion in the Palace of Terra. Novels hint that this resulted in an instability in the original "hole in reality" thingy and now it drains more psychic power then ever to keep the rift from turning into a new galaxy wide Eye of Terror. There is also a scene in a novel, long after Magnus's betrayal that features a series of Emperor Titan-sized adamantium doors deep within the Palace of Terra. Even when standing at the first door it sounds like the greatest battle of all time was going on behind them. What it means is the breach was not sealed, the demonic incursion on the holy soil of Terra is still under way, and the Adeptus Custodes and Sisters of Silence constantly have to keep Daemons from overrunning the heart of the the Imperium and shutting off the Astronomicon. We do know that the daemons weren't able to break into Imperial Palace again, but they destroyed a lot of irreplaceable pieces of ancient machinery, tied up some of the most capable and valuable forces of the Imperium-- and there is not a single reason for them to stop trying. Daemons can not be killed. Every victory is but a delay, every Custodes is irreplaceable. Oh, and the psychic strain is so devastating that there is no hope for the Emperor to recover any time soon and the Golden Throne is failing. But we knew this already.

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* The Emperor Webway project. The plan was to use the psychic power of the Emperor to dig a hole in reality leading to the Eldar Webway, while simultaneously fortifying it against Daemons. This eventually proved to be too draining even for the Emperor's enormous power when he had to leave the Great Crusade and take his place on a psychic amplifier, the Golden Throne. Then Magnus happened and crushed the barriers in the human webway tunnel leading to a massive demonic invasion in the Palace of Terra. Novels hint that this resulted in an instability in the original "hole in reality" thingy and now it drains more psychic power then ever to keep the rift from turning into a new galaxy wide Eye of Terror. There is also a scene in a novel, long after Magnus's betrayal that features a series of Emperor Titan-sized adamantium doors deep within the Palace of Terra. Even when standing at the first door it sounds like the greatest battle of all time was going on behind them. What it means is the breach was not sealed, the demonic incursion on the holy soil of Terra is still under way, and the Adeptus Custodes and Sisters of Silence constantly have to keep Daemons from overrunning the heart of the the Imperium and shutting off the Astronomicon. We do know that the daemons weren't able to break into Imperial Palace again, but they destroyed a lot of irreplaceable pieces of ancient machinery, tied up some of the most capable and valuable forces of the Imperium-- and there is not a single reason for them to stop trying. Daemons can not be killed. Every victory is but a delay, every Custodes is irreplaceable. Oh, and the psychic strain is so devastating that there is no hope for the Emperor to recover any time soon and the Golden Throne is failing. But we knew this already.



** [[DependingOnTheWriter The above is merely one writer's idea and may not be canon]], but the version given in the the codices is hardly much better. In this case, hypnotism and one Genestealer's kiss later, the victim suffers a period of LaserGuidedAmnesia that removes their memory of being attacked, followed by subservience to the Genestealers and eventually an overwhelming desire to breed. Once they eventually track down a potential mate and impregnate them/get pregnant, the resulting pregnancy ends with the birth of horribly misshapen MixAndMatchCritters yet the parents are hypnotised into seeing them as beautiful perfect babies. This process then repeats itself over the course of several generations, with more and more people being drawn into the cult and more and more new Genestealers being born, until they have the numbers to rival a small Imperial Guard regiment and beyond. On top of all that, AliensMadeThemDoIt is scary enough, but then FridgeHorror sets in and you realise that Genestealer's Kiss is a weaponized form of hybridisation, internal corruption and MindControl that can make a person betray all their prior-held beliefs -- in other words, [[NotSoDifferent a non-magical, fully organic counterpart to Chaos corruption]]. How's that for scare-factor?

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** [[DependingOnTheWriter The above is merely one writer's idea and may not be canon]], but the version given in the the codices is hardly much better. In this case, hypnotism and one Genestealer's kiss later, the victim suffers a period of LaserGuidedAmnesia that removes their memory of being attacked, followed by subservience to the Genestealers and eventually an overwhelming desire to breed. Once they eventually track down a potential mate and impregnate them/get pregnant, the resulting pregnancy ends with the birth of horribly misshapen MixAndMatchCritters yet the parents are hypnotised into seeing them as beautiful perfect babies. This process then repeats itself over the course of several generations, with more and more people being drawn into the cult and more and more new Genestealers being born, until they have the numbers to rival a small Imperial Guard regiment and beyond. On top of all that, AliensMadeThemDoIt is scary enough, but then FridgeHorror sets in and you realise that Genestealer's Kiss is a weaponized form of hybridisation, internal corruption and MindControl that can make a person betray all their prior-held beliefs -- in other words, [[NotSoDifferent a non-magical, fully organic counterpart to Chaos corruption]]. How's that for scare-factor?
1st Jan '18 4:37:09 PM Ilya_Rysenkov
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** Hate is a wrong word. They are uncaring beings, and when they ''do care'', e.g. Nurgle, [[BodyHorror their compassion is horrifying.]]
28th Dec '17 5:04:00 PM WillBGood
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* The '''Tech-Priests''' who maintain them are pretty scary on their own - not only do they occasionally ''replace half their brain with a computer'' to [[StrawVulcan free themselves from emotions]], but they're one of the most powerful forces in the Imperium. This wouldn't be so bad until you consider how many of them are horrible, horrible people - Archmagos Khobotov from ''Soul Drinker'' basically thinks "The Soul Drinkers have an ancient right to the Soulspear, since it's their holiest relic. I don't. ''I'm going to take it anyway anyways''." They literally [[MachineWorship do not care about anything other than the technology]] - [[TheUnfettered no honour, no justice, definitely not other people's lives]]. They will gladly put [[AMillionIsAStatistic an entire world's population at risk]] in order to have a chance to loot a Necron tomb, and tend to act ''offended'' when people wall off Necron tombs rather than letting themselves get annihilated by psychopathic robot skeletons. And they're so powerful ''no-one will ever be able to do anything about it''. Nice or [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain ineffectual and sympathetic]] versions (like Antigonus in ''[[Literature/GreyKnights Dark Adeptus]]'', Felicia in ''[[Literature/CiaphasCain Death or Glory]]'', Ernulph and Logash in ''[[Literature/CiaphasCain Caves of Ice]]'', also multiple characters in ''Literature/{{Titanicus}}'') do exist; indeed, they probably don't include a higher percentage of bastards than the Administratum. However, their really nasty members are in a position to screw over ''trillions'' of people [[ForScience in the name of the Omnissiah]].

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* The '''Tech-Priests''' who maintain them are pretty scary on their own - not only do they occasionally ''replace half their brain with a computer'' to [[StrawVulcan free themselves from emotions]], but they're one of the most powerful forces in the Imperium. This wouldn't be so bad until you consider how many of them are horrible, horrible people - Archmagos Khobotov from ''Soul Drinker'' basically thinks "The Soul Drinkers have an ancient right to the Soulspear, since it's their holiest relic. I don't. ''I'm going to take it anyway anyways''.anyway''." They literally [[MachineWorship do not care about anything other than the technology]] - [[TheUnfettered no honour, no justice, definitely not other people's lives]]. They will gladly put [[AMillionIsAStatistic an entire world's population at risk]] in order to have a chance to loot a Necron tomb, and tend to act ''offended'' when people wall off Necron tombs rather than letting themselves get annihilated by psychopathic robot skeletons. And they're so powerful ''no-one will ever be able to do anything about it''. Nice or [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain ineffectual and sympathetic]] versions (like Antigonus in ''[[Literature/GreyKnights Dark Adeptus]]'', Felicia in ''[[Literature/CiaphasCain Death or Glory]]'', Ernulph and Logash in ''[[Literature/CiaphasCain Caves of Ice]]'', also multiple characters in ''Literature/{{Titanicus}}'') do exist; indeed, they probably don't include a higher percentage of bastards than the Administratum. However, their really nasty members are in a position to screw over ''trillions'' of people [[ForScience in the name of the Omnissiah]].
28th Dec '17 5:03:15 PM WillBGood
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* Emperor Webway project. The plan was to use psychic power of the Emperor to dig a hole in reality leading to the Eldar Webway, while simultaneously fortifying it against Daemons. The task eventually proved to be too draining even for Emperor's enormous power when he had to leave the Great Crusade and take his place on a psychic amplifier, the Golden Throne. Then Magnus happened and crushed the barriers in the human webway tunnel leading to a massive demonic invasion in the Palace of Terra. Novels hint that this resulted in an instability in the original "hole in reality" thingy and now it drains more psychic power then ever to keep the rift from turning into a new galaxy wide Eye of Terror. There is also a scene in a novel, long after Magnus betrayal that features a series of Emperor Titan sized adamantium doors deep within the Palace of Terra. Even when standing at the first door it sounds like the greatest battle of all time was going on behind them. What it means is the breach was not sealed, the demonic incursion on holy soil of Terra is still under way, and Adeptus Custodes and Sisters of Silence constantly have to keep Daemons from overrunning the heart of the Imperium and shutting off Astronomicon. We do know that daemons weren't able to break into Imperial Palace again, but they destroyed a lot of irreplaceable pieces of ancient machinery, tied up some of the most capable and valuable forces of the Imperium and there is not a single reason for them to stop trying. Daemons can not be killed. Every victory is but a delay, every Custodes is irreplaceable. Oh, and the psychic strain is so devastating that there is no hope for Emperor to recover any time soon and the Golden Throne is failing. But we knew this already.

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* The Emperor Webway project. The plan was to use the psychic power of the Emperor to dig a hole in reality leading to the Eldar Webway, while simultaneously fortifying it against Daemons. The task This eventually proved to be too draining even for the Emperor's enormous power when he had to leave the Great Crusade and take his place on a psychic amplifier, the Golden Throne. Then Magnus happened and crushed the barriers in the human webway tunnel leading to a massive demonic invasion in the Palace of Terra. Novels hint that this resulted in an instability in the original "hole in reality" thingy and now it drains more psychic power then ever to keep the rift from turning into a new galaxy wide Eye of Terror. There is also a scene in a novel, long after Magnus Magnus's betrayal that features a series of Emperor Titan sized Titan-sized adamantium doors deep within the Palace of Terra. Even when standing at the first door it sounds like the greatest battle of all time was going on behind them. What it means is the breach was not sealed, the demonic incursion on the holy soil of Terra is still under way, and the Adeptus Custodes and Sisters of Silence constantly have to keep Daemons from overrunning the heart of the the Imperium and shutting off the Astronomicon. We do know that the daemons weren't able to break into Imperial Palace again, but they destroyed a lot of irreplaceable pieces of ancient machinery, tied up some of the most capable and valuable forces of the Imperium Imperium-- and there is not a single reason for them to stop trying. Daemons can not be killed. Every victory is but a delay, every Custodes is irreplaceable. Oh, and the psychic strain is so devastating that there is no hope for the Emperor to recover any time soon and the Golden Throne is failing. But we knew this already.
23rd Dec '17 10:50:10 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* Genestealers are scary-looking enough when they are purestrain but as they become more and more hybridised they become even creepier as they take on human traits and eventually become a perfect hybrid of unfeeling alien and charismatic human. And then you consider how they breed as revealed in the novel Deathwatch by Steve Parker. Genestealers need to get human genes from somewhere, so they have their cultists abduct women and then get new Genestealers through two methods. If they want purestrains then an already existing purestrain uses it's tongue to infect the woman with a genetic packet of Tyranid DNA that will cause a brood of genestealers to grow in them. After a horrifically painful pregnancy, all the while they are sealed in the Genestealer hive and fed nutrients through bio-tubes that go into their mouth, stomach and possibly ''other lower places'', the baby Genestealers tear their way out of the women, exactly where they tear their way out of isn't specified, and devour every last scrap of their mother. But if they want hybrids, it may actually be worse. They hypnotise the women into submission and have their hybrids rape them, impregnating them with future generations of Genestealers that will appear to be normal children who will hold their mother in complete thralldom and use them to breed more and more generations until finally they die.
** Of course, the standard Genestealer isn't a cakewalk either. They don't have any ranged weaponry, but they strike from the shadows with sharp claws. How sharp? An Adeptus Astartes in full-on Terminator armor is nothing but a walking minced tuna can to one of these things if they catch them off-guard.

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* Genestealers are scary-looking enough when they are purestrain but as they become more and more hybridised they become even creepier as they take on human traits and eventually become a perfect hybrid of unfeeling alien and charismatic human. And then you consider how they breed as revealed in the novel Deathwatch by Steve Parker. Genestealers need to get human genes from somewhere, so they have their cultists abduct women and then get new Genestealers through two methods. If they want purestrains then an already existing purestrain uses it's tongue to infect the woman with a genetic packet of Tyranid DNA that will cause a brood of genestealers Genestealers to grow in them. After a horrifically painful pregnancy, all the while they are sealed in the Genestealer hive and fed nutrients through bio-tubes that go into their mouth, stomach and possibly ''other lower places'', the baby Genestealers tear their way out of the women, exactly where they tear their way out of isn't specified, and devour every last scrap of their mother. But if they want hybrids, it may actually be worse. They hypnotise the women into submission and have their hybrids rape them, impregnating them with future generations of Genestealers that will appear to be normal children who will hold their mother in complete thralldom and use them to breed more and more generations until finally they die.
** Of course, [[DependingOnTheWriter The above is merely one writer's idea and may not be canon]], but the standard Genestealer isn't version given in the the codices is hardly much better. In this case, hypnotism and one Genestealer's kiss later, the victim suffers a period of LaserGuidedAmnesia that removes their memory of being attacked, followed by subservience to the Genestealers and eventually an overwhelming desire to breed. Once they eventually track down a potential mate and impregnate them/get pregnant, the resulting pregnancy ends with the birth of horribly misshapen MixAndMatchCritters yet the parents are hypnotised into seeing them as beautiful perfect babies. This process then repeats itself over the course of several generations, with more and more people being drawn into the cult and more and more new Genestealers being born, until they have the numbers to rival a small Imperial Guard regiment and beyond. On top of all that, AliensMadeThemDoIt is scary enough, but then FridgeHorror sets in and you realise that Genestealer's Kiss is a weaponized form of hybridisation, internal corruption and MindControl that can make a person betray all their prior-held beliefs -- in other words, [[NotSoDifferent a non-magical, fully organic counterpart to Chaos corruption]]. How's that for scare-factor?
** And Genestealers aren't
a cakewalk in combat either. They don't have any ranged weaponry, but they strike from the shadows with sharp claws. How sharp? An Adeptus Astartes in full-on Terminator armor is nothing but a walking minced tuna can to one of these things if they catch them off-guard.
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