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* The implied fate of Talia's mother. [[PrisonRape She forgot to lock her cell door.]] And we actually see more inmates running across to join in...

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* The implied fate of Talia's mother. [[PrisonRape She The doctor forgot to lock her cell door.]] And we actually see more inmates running across to join in...
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* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called The End. Overall the song isn't scary, but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins soundtrack.

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* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called The End. Overall the song isn't scary, but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins ''Film/BatmanBegins'' soundtrack.
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Fits better under this. We don't see the injury but it's not like the injury didn't happen.


** Bane broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in. We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[HellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.]]

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** Bane broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in. We [[BloodlessCarnage [[GoryDiscretionShot never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[HellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.]]
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* The 'exile' option. Sure you can leave Gotham! ... If you can make it across the frozen river without it cracking and drowning you in the freezing water. And hey, just in case you like your chances, here's a crane shot showing several dozen bodies under the ice. Hilariously lampshaded when the Scarecrow sentences Jim Gordon and his associates to "Death... by exile."

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* The 'exile' option. Sure Get convicted in Crane's KangarooCourt, and you get your choice of punishments: death or exile from Gotham City. If you choose exile, you're free to leave! ... assuming you can leave Gotham! ... If you can make it walk across the a frozen river without it cracking and drowning the ice breaking under you in the freezing water.feet so that you drown or die of hypothermia. And hey, just in case you like your chances, here's a crane shot showing several dozen bodies under the ice. Hilariously lampshaded when the Scarecrow sentences Jim Gordon and his associates to "Death... by exile."If you choose death, surprise -- it's death ''by exile''.

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!!This is a Moments page, so spoilers are unmarked. '''Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned!'''



!!This is a Moments page, so spoilers are unmarked. '''Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned!'''



-->'''Bruce''': Why didn't you just kill me?
-->'''Bane''': [[DeathSeeker You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it.]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]] ... When it is done and Gotham is ashes, ''then you have my permission to die''.

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-->'''Bruce''': -->'''Bruce:''' Why didn't you just kill me?
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[[DeathSeeker You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it.]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]] ... When it is done and Gotham is ashes, ''then you have my permission to die''.



* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called The End. Overall the song isn't scary, but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins soundtrack.

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* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called The End. Overall the song isn't scary, but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins soundtrack.soundtrack.
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** After watching that scene, you'll never [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SyAhLcbZyE listen to a little boy singing the national anthem]] [[ParanoiaFuel the same way again]] (Yes. It's the same little boy from the movie. CJ Coyne!).

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** After watching that scene, you'll never [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SyAhLcbZyE listen to a little boy singing the national anthem]] [[ParanoiaFuel the same way again]] (Yes. It's the same little boy from the movie. movie, CJ Coyne!).
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** After watching that scene, you'll never [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SyAhLcbZyE listen to a little boy singing the national anthem]] [[ParanoiaFuel the same way again]] (Yes. It's the same little boy from the movie!).

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** After watching that scene, you'll never [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SyAhLcbZyE listen to a little boy singing the national anthem]] [[ParanoiaFuel the same way again]] (Yes. It's the same little boy from the movie!).movie. CJ Coyne!).
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* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called The End. Overall the song isn't scary , but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins soundtrack.

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* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called The End. Overall the song isn't scary , scary, but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins soundtrack.
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*** It also taps into a very potent AdultFear when you consider the myriad of people who have indeed been assaulted or murdered by employees that they trusted--housekeeper, gardener, nanny, etc. She could very well have been the kindest and most respectful of tenants and yet he was ''still'' harboring fantasies of doing horrible things to her. So much for being NiceToTheWaiter.

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*** It also taps into a very potent AdultFear fear when you consider the myriad of people who have indeed been assaulted or murdered by employees that they trusted--housekeeper, gardener, nanny, etc. She could very well have been the kindest and most respectful of tenants and yet he was ''still'' harboring fantasies of doing horrible things to her. So much for being NiceToTheWaiter.

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!!This is a Moments page, so spoilers are unmarked. '''Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned!'''



* The first confrontation between Bane and Batman, which ends with [[spoiler:him ''breaking Batman's spine over one knee.'']]
** Bane [[spoiler:broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[HellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.]]
*** The worst thing is when he [[spoiler:does drop Batman on his own knee to snap the latter's spine, there is no scream from Batman once that happened. Just a cracking noise, and his body falling to the floor]].

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* The first confrontation between Bane and Batman, which ends with [[spoiler:him him ''breaking Batman's spine over one knee.'']]
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** Bane [[spoiler:broke broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[HellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.]]
*** The worst thing is when he [[spoiler:does does drop Batman on his own knee to snap the latter's spine, there is no scream from Batman once that happened. Just a cracking noise, and his body falling to the floor]].floor.



* The scene where Bane is shown lurking nearby during a football game and presses the button on what is presumably a detonator. Next, we see a football player running to make a touchdown, not noticing that [[spoiler: the entire frigging field is collapsing behind him. And for added affect, we get to watch the opposing team fall into the massive pit this creates.]]

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* The scene where Bane is shown lurking nearby during a football game and presses the button on what is presumably a detonator. Next, we see a football player running to make a touchdown, not noticing that [[spoiler: the entire frigging field is collapsing behind him. And for added affect, we get to watch the opposing team fall into the massive pit this creates.]]



** The entire scene for the audience's perspective, especially for the [[HarmfulToMinors children]], starting from [[spoiler: the aforementioned football field collapsing, Bane's doomsday plans for Gotham, which concludes with Bane himself snapping the neck of the only person able to deactivate the bomb for the entire audience to see. It doesn't help matters that what appeared to be most of Gotham's ordinary citizens turned out for the event, hoping to see a fun football game and instead becoming witnesses/victims of a terrorist plot that had just begun to unfold.]]

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** The entire scene for the audience's perspective, especially for the [[HarmfulToMinors children]], starting from [[spoiler: the aforementioned football field collapsing, Bane's doomsday plans for Gotham, which concludes with Bane himself snapping the neck of the only person able to deactivate the bomb for the entire audience to see. It doesn't help matters that what appeared to be most of Gotham's ordinary citizens turned out for the event, hoping to see a fun football game and instead becoming witnesses/victims of a terrorist plot that had just begun to unfold.]]



* The implied fate of [[spoiler:Talia]]'s mother. [[PrisonRape She forgot to lock her cell door.]] And we actually see more inmates running across to join in...
** There's also some implications in [[spoiler: Talia's escape. Bane received his injuries fighting off the prisoners who were trying to stop the only female in the prison escape. It's no wonder Ra's Al Ghul sent the League of Shadows in to kill all the prisoners aside from Bane. They're not only implied to have raped/killed his wife, but that they were going to do the same thing to his daughter. His ''pre-teen'' daughter]].
** [[spoiler: Young Talia's short hair]] develops a certain FridgeHorror when you take the above into consideration. [[spoiler:She had to not only hide her gender, but any trace of physical softness, and she probably didn't have much longer before puberty made it impossible to hide.]]
* The 'exile' option. [[spoiler:Sure you can leave Gotham! ... If you can make it across the frozen river without it cracking and drowning you in the freezing water. And hey, just in case you like your chances, here's a crane shot showing several dozen bodies under the ice. Hilariously lampshaded when the Scarecrow sentences Jim Gordon and his associates to "Death... by exile."]]
** The [[spoiler: KangarooCourt in general is downright disturbing, given that neither option will result in you living, the people around are seconds away from trying to rip the defendants to shreds, and the idea of a place where even ''Bane'' has no authority is just chilling.]]
** Oh, and that 'exile' option? [[spoiler:As Scarecrow said, [[MortonsFork it's also the 'death' option.]] No matter what, the moment you're caught and brought into Crane's court, ''you're crossing the ice and can't say anything about it.'']]

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* The implied fate of [[spoiler:Talia]]'s Talia's mother. [[PrisonRape She forgot to lock her cell door.]] And we actually see more inmates running across to join in...
** There's also some implications in [[spoiler: Talia's escape. Bane received his injuries fighting off the prisoners who were trying to stop the only female in the prison escape. It's no wonder Ra's Al Ghul sent the League of Shadows in to kill all the prisoners aside from Bane. They're not only implied to have raped/killed his wife, but that they were going to do the same thing to his daughter. His ''pre-teen'' daughter]].
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** [[spoiler: Young Talia's short hair]] hair develops a certain FridgeHorror when you take the above into consideration. [[spoiler:She She had to not only hide her gender, but any trace of physical softness, and she probably didn't have much longer before puberty made it impossible to hide.]]
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* The 'exile' option. [[spoiler:Sure Sure you can leave Gotham! ... If you can make it across the frozen river without it cracking and drowning you in the freezing water. And hey, just in case you like your chances, here's a crane shot showing several dozen bodies under the ice. Hilariously lampshaded when the Scarecrow sentences Jim Gordon and his associates to "Death... by exile."]]
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** The [[spoiler: KangarooCourt in general is downright disturbing, given that neither option will result in you living, the people around are seconds away from trying to rip the defendants to shreds, and the idea of a place where even ''Bane'' has no authority is just chilling.]]
chilling.
** Oh, and that 'exile' option? [[spoiler:As As Scarecrow said, [[MortonsFork it's also the 'death' option.]] No matter what, the moment you're caught and brought into Crane's court, ''you're crossing the ice and can't say anything about it.'']]''



* [[spoiler: The part where Bane's minions kill three Special Forces soldiers and he has them hung from the Gotham Bridge for the whole world to see... to say that was disturbing would be an understatement. This is where it sinks in that the situation is completely out of control, and the government is powerless to stop the horror.]]

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* [[spoiler: The part where Bane's minions kill three Special Forces soldiers and he has them hung from the Gotham Bridge for the whole world to see... to say that was disturbing would be an understatement. This is where it sinks in that the situation is completely out of control, and the government is powerless to stop the horror.]]



* Bane manipulating people into embracing their worst aspects and attacking those they feel have taken control of the city from them. Just the fact that Bane is skilled enough to manipulate people into doing this is disturbing, when even ComicBook/TheJoker with his HumansAreBastards belief couldn't do this. Showing the aftermath of Bane's manipulations makes it worse and [[spoiler:the fact Bane and Talia are going to nuke the city regardless makes it scarier]]. To top that off, sure in the end Gotham is "saved"...but after almost everyone in the city snapping and creating anarchy, it probably won't ever be the same.
** FridgeHorror ensues when you think about this. Joker said that everyone was a monster, but only needed to be pushed hard enough. Joker was completely right. He only failed to push them as hard as [[spoiler: Bane and Talia]] did.

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* Bane manipulating people into embracing their worst aspects and attacking those they feel have taken control of the city from them. Just the fact that Bane is skilled enough to manipulate people into doing this is disturbing, when even ComicBook/TheJoker with his HumansAreBastards belief couldn't do this. Showing the aftermath of Bane's manipulations makes it worse and [[spoiler:the the fact Bane and Talia are going to nuke the city regardless makes it scarier]].scarier. To top that off, sure in the end Gotham is "saved"...but after almost everyone in the city snapping and creating anarchy, it probably won't ever be the same.
** FridgeHorror ensues when you think about this. Joker said that everyone was a monster, but only needed to be pushed hard enough. Joker was completely right. He only failed to push them as hard as [[spoiler: Bane and Talia]] Talia did.
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* The chanting in both trailers.

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* The chanting in both trailers.the soundtrack.
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-->'''Bane''': You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it. [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]] ... When it is done and Gotham is ashes, ''then you have my permission to die''.

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-->'''Bane''': [[DeathSeeker You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it. it.]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]] ... When it is done and Gotham is ashes, ''then you have my permission to die''.
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** Bane [[spoiler:broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[TheHellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.]]

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** Bane [[spoiler:broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[TheHellIsThatNoise [[HellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.]]
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** Bane [[spoiler:broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[TheHellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.

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** Bane [[spoiler:broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[TheHellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.]]
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** Bane [[spoiler:broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.

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** Bane [[spoiler:broke Batman's back so the ''vertebrae is sticking out.'' Later we see the inmates of his prison jam it back in.]] We [[BloodlessCarnage never actually see any of it]], but ''damn.'' [[TheHellIsThatNoise Bruce's screams throughout the latter event only serve to drive the point home.
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-->'''Bane''': You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it. [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]] ... When Gotham is ashes, ''then you have my permission to die''.

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-->'''Bane''': You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it. [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]] ... When it is done and Gotham is ashes, ''then you have my permission to die''.
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-->'''Bane''': You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it. [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]]

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-->'''Bane''': You don't fear death, you ''welcome'' it. [[FateWorseThanDeath Your punishment must be more severe.]]]] ... When Gotham is ashes, ''then you have my permission to die''.
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*** It also taps into a very potent AdultFear when you consider the myriad of people who have indeed been assaulted or murdered by employees that they trusted--housekeeper, gardener, nanny, etc. She could very well have been the kindest and most respectful of tenants and yet he was ''still'' harboring fantasies of doing horrible things to her. So much for being NiceToTheWaiter.
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** FridgeHorror ensues when you think about this. Joker said that everyone was a monster, but only needed to be pushed hard enough. Joker was comepletely right. He only failed to push them as hard as [[spoiler: Bane and Talia]] did.

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** FridgeHorror ensues when you think about this. Joker said that everyone was a monster, but only needed to be pushed hard enough. Joker was comepletely completely right. He only failed to push them as hard as [[spoiler: Bane and Talia]] did.
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* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9BSiayD0ys The End]]. Overall the song isn't scary , but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins soundtrack.

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* On the deluxe version of the movie's soundtrack there's a song called [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9BSiayD0ys The End]].End. Overall the song isn't scary , but if you listen closely throughout most of the song you can hear something that sounds a lot like Bane breathing through his mask. It really stands out because there's nothing like this any of the other songs. It's very reminiscent the background noise in Film/BatmanBegins soundtrack.

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* Seeing ordinary people being torn to shreds by an angry mob. Imagine you are walking home one day, minding your own business... when a howling mob appears seemingly out of nowhere looking for blood. Oh, and don't think that going in-doors is going to protect you. The mob won't be stopped by a measly door; they'll destroy your home and possessions, attack your family, and either kill you or commit something worse than murder on you and your loved ones. Safety no longer exists in Gotham.
** If you pay attention in the one scene of carnage, you see a man dragging a woman in a fur coat into the streets. She's kicking and screaming all the while, and the implications [[RapeAsDrama are chilling]].
*** Even worse here is that, judging from his attire, the man seems to be the doorman. It's a little [[ParanoiaFuel unnerving]] to add those implications in when the perp is the person who, [[WhatYouAreInTheDark in normal circumstances]], would've been her first line of defense against that sort of thing.
** This scene is disturbingly similar to [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything real-life mob lynchings]].

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* Seeing ordinary people being torn to shreds by an angry mob.mob, in a scene disturbingly similar to [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything real-life mob lynchings]]. Imagine you are walking home one day, minding your own business... when a howling mob appears seemingly out of nowhere looking for blood. Oh, and don't think that going in-doors is going to protect you. The mob won't be stopped by a measly door; they'll destroy your home and possessions, attack your family, and either kill you or commit something worse than murder on you and your loved ones. Safety no longer exists in Gotham.
** If you pay attention in the one scene of carnage, you see a man dragging a woman in a fur coat into the streets. She's kicking and screaming all the while, and the implications [[RapeAsDrama are chilling]].
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chilling]]. Even worse here is that, judging from his attire, the man seems to be the doorman. It's a little [[ParanoiaFuel unnerving]] to add those implications in when the perp is the person who, [[WhatYouAreInTheDark in normal circumstances]], would've been her first line of defense against that sort of thing.
** This scene is disturbingly similar to [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything real-life mob lynchings]].
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** Judging from the scarring, there's nothing wrong with his face. His spine is horribly injured, giving him constant, paralyzing pain, so he must keep breathing anesthetics in his mask all the time.
*** Oh, there's probably something very wrong with his face. When we see him during the League's raid on the prison, the mask he's wearing is soaked through with blood around his mouth and nose.
*** That just means he's coughing blood, which is indicative of internal damage, but not necessarily in the face.
*** [[FridgeHorror Why have the whole face (and head) covered if it's just a matter of coughing blood? Could it be to hide certain characteristic facial scars?]]
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** The entire scene for the audience's perspective, especially for the [[HarmfulToMinors children]], starting from [[spoiler: the aforementioned football field collapsing, Bane's doomsday plans for Gotham, which concludes with Bane himself snapping the neck of the only person able to deactivate the bomb [[AndIMustScream for the entire audience to see.]] It doesn't help matters that what appeared to be most of Gotham's ordinary citizens turned out for the event, hoping to see a fun football game and instead becoming witnesses/victims of a terrorist plot that had just begun to unfold.]]

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** The entire scene for the audience's perspective, especially for the [[HarmfulToMinors children]], starting from [[spoiler: the aforementioned football field collapsing, Bane's doomsday plans for Gotham, which concludes with Bane himself snapping the neck of the only person able to deactivate the bomb [[AndIMustScream for the entire audience to see.]] see. It doesn't help matters that what appeared to be most of Gotham's ordinary citizens turned out for the event, hoping to see a fun football game and instead becoming witnesses/victims of a terrorist plot that had just begun to unfold.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:I was wondering what would break first...Your spirit, or your body?]]

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*** The worst thing is when he [[spoiler:does drop Batman on his own knee to snap the latter's spine, there is no scream from Batman once that happened. Just a cracking noise, and his body falling to the floor]].
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* During their final battle, when Batman breaks Bane's mask, Bane initially tries to repair it, but when Bruce keeps attacking him, stopping him from doing so, a combination of the pain from his injuries, no longer kept in check by the mask and anger at being on the losing end of the fight this time cause Bane to ''[[VillainousBreakdown lose it completely]]''. Bane then flings Bruce into a nearby pillar and starts pummelling him with blows strong enough to shatter concrete, all the while shrieking and snarling like a wounded animal. Given how calm and collected Bane has been throughout the film, it's unnerving to see him degenerate into a rabid berserker.
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* [[spoiler: The part where Bane's minions kill three Special Forces soldiers and he has them hung from the Gotham Bridge for the whole world to see... to say that was disturbing would be an understatement. At this point, you ''know'' Bane isn't messing around.]]

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* [[spoiler: The part where Bane's minions kill three Special Forces soldiers and he has them hung from the Gotham Bridge for the whole world to see... to say that was disturbing would be an understatement. At this point, you ''know'' Bane isn't messing around.This is where it sinks in that the situation is completely out of control, and the government is powerless to stop the horror.]]
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** This scene is disturbingly similar to how the Nazis hunted the Jews, or the victims of mob violence in Muslim countries....

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** This scene is disturbingly similar to how the Nazis hunted the Jews, or the victims of [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything real-life mob violence in Muslim countries....lynchings]].
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[[caption-width-right:350:"When Gotham lies in ruins, then you have my permission to die."]]

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