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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the superpowered HumanoidAbomination experts who are assigned to stop those menaces have to use an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.

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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. ''recognize'', never mind fight back against. And even the superpowered HumanoidAbomination experts who are assigned to stop those menaces have to use an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.
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\n* The deaths of the three men on the submarine. Terrified, trapped, slowly suffocating, and betrayed by those who'd assured them they'd be home by 5.
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* The prison and eventual fate of [[spoiler:Ruth and the landlord]].

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* Sapphire is possessed twice by the darkness. The first time, it causes her eyes to turn [[BlackEyesOfEvil pure black.]] The second time, ''her face turns into a [[NightmareFace mess of fleshy tumours.]]''
* The darkness in general. Especially since Sapphire and Steel don't exactly defeat it so much as barter a kind of peace with it [[spoiler:(and the readiness with which Steel gives up Tully's life is a kind of NF all its own - he's not particularly pleasant or friendly at the best of times but that was a cold move even for him)]] which means it can always come back. Even if you're not particularly scared of the dark, there's something about the darkness just consuming everything and constantly creeping closer and closer that's just plain eerie and the odd whispering/hissing noises it makes as it does so don't help in the slightest.


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* Sapphire is possessed twice by the darkness. The first time, it causes her eyes to turn [[BlackEyesOfEvil pure black.]] black]] (pictured). The second time, ''her face turns into a [[NightmareFace mess of fleshy tumours.]]''
* The darkness in general. Especially since Sapphire and Steel don't exactly defeat it so much as barter a kind of peace with it [[spoiler:(and (and the readiness with which Steel gives up Tully's life is a kind of NF all its own - he's not particularly pleasant or friendly at the best of times but that was a cold move even for him)]] him) which means it can always come back. Even if you're not particularly scared of the dark, there's something about the darkness just consuming everything and constantly creeping closer and closer that's just plain eerie and the odd whispering/hissing noises it makes as it does so don't help in the slightest.




* Even though [[spoiler:Ruth's friend Liz]] survives, she will have to take precautions for the rest of her life, and if she slips up even once the monster will be able to get at her if it ever escapes from its [[SealedEvilInACan can]] -- even if it doesn't escape until long after she's dead.
** HarsherInHindsight - Good luck to her following Steel's advice with the [[spoiler:increased prevalence of CCTV and ubiquitous consumer photography e.g. smartphones over the past 30 or so years.]]
*** Although that may actually be ''helpful'' for her, as [[spoiler: the Shape's affinity for paper suggests that it's ''only'' actual photographs - i.e. pictures created on chemically-permeated paper or film - that he inhabits and can manipulate. So it's possible that a digital image would lie outside his "habitat". Digital photography was already being used by NASA when the episode is set, yet Sapphire didn't pick up any impressions related to space probes or radio transmissions from the Shape, only old-tech darkroom sensations.]]
** Just to make it worse, consider the agents' discussion of how the Shape could be lurking ''behind things'' in photos, like on the other sides of walls or behind bushes. Presumably that means that, to the Shape, a photo of a house would contain all the interior features of that house - rooms, furnishings, etc - that aren't visible to a person looking at the picture of its exterior. Now, consider how such "interior features" might include all the ''people'' in the house. From the Shape's perspective, poor [[spoiler: Liz]] could be accessible via the concealed back rooms of photographs taken ''from the street outside'' - or even from a plane flying overhead! - that she never even knew existed...
* The photo-kids may have been nasty little brats, but one can't help but feel for them when they're [[spoiler: dragged back into the old photographs the Shape released them from. Particularly if you assume they'll ''remain conscious'' in there, same as Ruth was sort of aware of herself when she was trapped, or that the Shape may have called up and enslaved the souls of the long-dead people who'd posed for those photos, same as he'd threatened to do to Liz.]]

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* Even though [[spoiler:Ruth's Ruth's friend Liz]] Liz survives, she will have to take precautions for the rest of her life, and if she slips up even once the monster will be able to get at her if it ever escapes from its [[SealedEvilInACan can]] -- even if it doesn't escape until long after she's dead.
** HarsherInHindsight - Good luck to her following Steel's advice with the [[spoiler:increased increased prevalence of CCTV and ubiquitous consumer photography e.g. smartphones over the past 30 or so years.]]
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*** Although that may actually be ''helpful'' for her, as [[spoiler: the Shape's affinity for paper suggests that it's ''only'' actual photographs - i.e. pictures created on chemically-permeated paper or film - that he inhabits and can manipulate. So it's possible that a digital image would lie outside his "habitat". Digital photography was already being used by NASA when the episode is set, yet Sapphire didn't pick up any impressions related to space probes or radio transmissions from the Shape, only old-tech darkroom sensations.]]
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** Just to make it worse, consider the agents' discussion of how the Shape could be lurking ''behind things'' in photos, like on the other sides of walls or behind bushes. Presumably that means that, to the Shape, a photo of a house would contain all the interior features of that house - rooms, furnishings, etc - that aren't visible to a person looking at the picture of its exterior. Now, consider how such "interior features" might include all the ''people'' in the house. From the Shape's perspective, poor [[spoiler: Liz]] Liz could be accessible via the concealed back rooms of photographs taken ''from the street outside'' - or even from a plane flying overhead! - that she never even knew existed...
* The photo-kids may have been nasty little brats, but one can't help but feel for them when they're [[spoiler: dragged back into the old photographs the Shape released them from. Particularly if you assume they'll ''remain conscious'' in there, same as Ruth was sort of aware of herself when she was trapped, or that the Shape may have called up and enslaved the souls of the long-dead people who'd posed for those photos, same as he'd threatened to do to Liz.]]
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* The darkness in general. Especially since Sapphire and Steel don't exactly defeat it so much as barter a kind of peace with it [[spoiler:(and the readiness with which Steel gives up Tully's life is a kind of NF all its own - he's not particularly pleasant or friendly at the best of times but that was a cold move even for him)]] which means it can always come back. Even if you're not particularly scared of the dark, there's something about the darkness just consuming everything and constantly creeping closer and closer that's just plain eerie and the odd whispering/hissing noises it makes as it does so don't help in the slightest.

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* Sapphire is possessed twice by the darkness. The first time, it causes her eyes to turn [[BlackEyesOfEvil pure black.]] The second time, ''her face turns into a [[NightmareFace mess of fleshy tumours.]]''
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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the superpowered HumanoidAbomination experts who are assigned to stop them take an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.

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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the superpowered HumanoidAbomination experts who are assigned to stop them take those menaces have to use an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.
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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the "nice" {{Humanoid Abomination}}s who are assigned to stop them take an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.

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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the "nice" {{Humanoid Abomination}}s superpowered HumanoidAbomination experts who are assigned to stop them take an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.
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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the "nice" {{HumanoidAbomination}}s who are assigned to stop them take an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.

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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the "nice" {{HumanoidAbomination}}s {{Humanoid Abomination}}s who are assigned to stop them take an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.
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* How so many of the menaces on this show are ones that ordinary human beings can't even ''recognize''. never mind fight back against. And even the "nice" {{HumanoidAbomination}}s who are assigned to stop them take an alarming amount of trial-and-error - often ''costly and painful'' error - to get a handle on what they're up against.
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* The photo-kids may have been nasty little brats, but one can't help but feel for them when they're [[spoiler: dragged back into the old photographs the Shape released them from. Particularly if you assume they'll ''remain conscious'' in there, same as Ruth was sort of aware of herself when she was trapped, or that the Shape may have called up and enslaved the souls of the long-dead people who'd posed for those photos, same as he'd threatened to do to Liz.]]
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** Just to make it worse, consider the agents' discussion of how the Shape could be lurking ''behind things'' in photos, like on the other sides of walls or behind bushes. Presumably that means that, to the Shape, a photo of a house would contain all the interior features of that house - rooms, furnishings, etc - that aren't visible to a person looking at the photo. Now, consider how such "interior features" might include all the ''people'' in the house. From the Shape's perspective, poor [[spoiler: Liz]] could be accessible via the concealed back rooms of photographs taken ''from the street outside'' - or even from a plane flying overhead! - that she never even knew existed...

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** Just to make it worse, consider the agents' discussion of how the Shape could be lurking ''behind things'' in photos, like on the other sides of walls or behind bushes. Presumably that means that, to the Shape, a photo of a house would contain all the interior features of that house - rooms, furnishings, etc - that aren't visible to a person looking at the photo.picture of its exterior. Now, consider how such "interior features" might include all the ''people'' in the house. From the Shape's perspective, poor [[spoiler: Liz]] could be accessible via the concealed back rooms of photographs taken ''from the street outside'' - or even from a plane flying overhead! - that she never even knew existed...

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** Although that may actually be ''helpful'' for her, as [[spoiler: the Shape's affinity for paper suggests that it's ''only'' actual photographs - i.e. pictures created on chemically-permeated paper or film - that he inhabits and can manipulate. So it's possible that a digital image would lie outside his "habitat". Digital photography was already being used by NASA when the episode is set, yet Sapphire didn't pick up any impressions related to space probes or radio transmissions from the Shape, only old-tech darkroom sensations.]]

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** *** Although that may actually be ''helpful'' for her, as [[spoiler: the Shape's affinity for paper suggests that it's ''only'' actual photographs - i.e. pictures created on chemically-permeated paper or film - that he inhabits and can manipulate. So it's possible that a digital image would lie outside his "habitat". Digital photography was already being used by NASA when the episode is set, yet Sapphire didn't pick up any impressions related to space probes or radio transmissions from the Shape, only old-tech darkroom sensations.]]]]
** Just to make it worse, consider the agents' discussion of how the Shape could be lurking ''behind things'' in photos, like on the other sides of walls or behind bushes. Presumably that means that, to the Shape, a photo of a house would contain all the interior features of that house - rooms, furnishings, etc - that aren't visible to a person looking at the photo. Now, consider how such "interior features" might include all the ''people'' in the house. From the Shape's perspective, poor [[spoiler: Liz]] could be accessible via the concealed back rooms of photographs taken ''from the street outside'' - or even from a plane flying overhead! - that she never even knew existed...

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** Although that may actually be ''helpful'' for her, as [[spoiler: the Shape's affinity for paper suggests that it's ''only'' actual photographs - i.e. pictures created on chemically-permeated paper or film - that he inhabits and can manipulate. So it's possible that a digital image would lie outside his "habitat". Digital photography was already being used by NASA when the episode is set, yet Sapphire didn't pick up any impressions related to space probes or radio transmissions from the Shape, only old-tech darkroom sensations.]]
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* The basic concept of the show: the universe is constantly at risk from hostile temporal attacks, and the best any human involved can hope for is that the '''nice''' {{Humanoid Abomination}}s don't decide that [[ShootTheDog killing you]] is the best response.

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* The basic concept of the show: the universe is constantly at risk from hostile temporal attacks, and the best any human involved can hope for is that the '''nice''' "nice" {{Humanoid Abomination}}s don't decide that [[ShootTheDog killing you]] is the best response.
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* The basic concept of the show: the universe is constantly at risk from hostile temporal attacks, and the best any human involved can hope for is that the ''nice'' {{Humanoid Abomination}}s don't decide that [[ShootTheDog killing you]] is the best response.

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* The basic concept of the show: the universe is constantly at risk from hostile temporal attacks, and the best any human involved can hope for is that the ''nice'' '''nice''' {{Humanoid Abomination}}s don't decide that [[ShootTheDog killing you]] is the best response.
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* The basic concept of the show: the universe is constantly at risk from hostile temporal attacks, and the best any human involved can hope for is that the ''nice'' HumanoidAbominations don't decide that [[ShootTheDog killing you]] is the best response.

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* The basic concept of the show: the universe is constantly at risk from hostile temporal attacks, and the best any human involved can hope for is that the ''nice'' HumanoidAbominations {{Humanoid Abomination}}s don't decide that [[ShootTheDog killing you]] is the best response.
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* The basic concept of the show: the universe is constantly at risk from hostile temporal attacks, and the best any human involved can hope for is that the ''nice'' HumanoidAbominations don't decide that [[ShootTheDog killing you]] is the best response.
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[[AC:Assignment 4]]
* The prison and eventual fate of [[spoiler:Ruth and the landlord]].
* Even though [[spoiler:Ruth's friend Liz]] survives, she will have to take precautions for the rest of her life, and if she slips up even once the monster will be able to get at her if it ever escapes from its [[SealedEvilInACan can]] -- even if it doesn't escape until long after she's dead.

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