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--->''They surrounded the covert but the sow got away with the sting of another spear in her flank. The trailing butts hindered her and the sharp, cross-cut points were a torment. She blundered into a tree, forcing a spear still deeper; and after that any of the hunters could follow her easily by the drops of vivid blood [...].Here, struck down by the heat, the sow fell and the hunters hurled themselves at her. This dreadful eruption from an unknown world made her frantic; she squealed and bucked and the air was full of sweat and noise and blood and terror [...]. The spear moved forward inch by inch and the terrified squealing became a high-pitched scream. Then Jack found the throat and the hot blood spouted over his hands. The sow collapsed under them [...]. At last the immediacy of the kill subsided. The boys drew back, and Jack stood up, holding out his hands. "Look." He giggled and flecked them while the boys laughed at his reeking palms. Then Jack grabbed Maurice and rubbed the stuff over his cheeks . . . "Right up her ass!"''

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--->''They surrounded the covert but the sow got away with the sting of another spear in her flank. The trailing butts hindered her and the sharp, cross-cut points were a torment. She blundered into a tree, forcing a spear still deeper; and after that any of the hunters could follow her easily by the drops of vivid blood [...].Here, struck down by the heat, the sow fell and the hunters hurled themselves at her. This dreadful eruption from an unknown world made her frantic; she squealed and bucked and the air was full of sweat and noise and blood and terror [...]. The spear moved forward inch by inch and the terrified squealing became a high-pitched scream. Then Jack found the throat and the hot blood spouted over his hands. The sow collapsed under them [...]. At last the immediacy of the kill subsided. The boys drew back, and Jack stood up, holding out his hands. "Look." He giggled and flecked them while the boys laughed at his reeking palms. Then Jack grabbed Maurice and rubbed the stuff over his cheeks . . .cheeks ... "Right up her ass!"''



** Not surprisingly, [[UsefulNotes/SchoolStudyMedia assigning a novel to grade school students]] tends to be controversial among parents of grade-school children and their teachers, but even those who permit it tend to let the students skip over this scene because it's ''that'' gruesome.

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** Not surprisingly, [[UsefulNotes/SchoolStudyMedia [[MediaNotes/SchoolStudyMedia assigning a novel to grade school students]] tends to be controversial among parents of grade-school children and their teachers, but even those who permit it tend to let the students skip over this scene because it's ''that'' gruesome.

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-->''Behind them the silver of moon had drawn clear of the horizon. Before them, something like a great ape was sitting asleep with its head between its knees. Then the wind roared in the forest, there was confusion in the
darkness and the creature lifted its head, holding toward them the ruin of a face.''

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-->''Behind them the silver of moon had drawn clear of the horizon. Before them, something like a great ape was sitting asleep with its head between its knees. Then the wind roared in the forest, there was confusion in the
the darkness and the creature lifted its head, holding toward them the ruin of a face.''
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-->''Behind them the silver of moon had drawn clear of the horizon. Before them, something like a great ape was sitting asleep with its head between its knees. Then the wind roared in the forest, there was confusion in the
darkness and the creature lifted its head, holding toward them the ruin of a face.''
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-->'''Jack''': YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE BLOOD!

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-->'''Jack''': -->'''Jack:''' YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE BLOOD!
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* The 1963 film adaptation expands on the world outside the island in a prologue told through still images. It is explained that England is going through a missile crisis and the plane was struck by lightning during a storm. The images are backed by drumbeats which grow more and more tense and unnerving.
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** Not surprisingly, [[SchoolStudyMedia assigning a novel to grade school students]] tends to be controversial among parents of grade-school children and their teachers, but even those who permit it tend to let the students skip over this scene because it's ''that'' gruesome.

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** Not surprisingly, [[SchoolStudyMedia [[UsefulNotes/SchoolStudyMedia assigning a novel to grade school students]] tends to be controversial among parents of grade-school children and their teachers, but even those who permit it tend to let the students skip over this scene because it's ''that'' gruesome.
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* Roger. You have to wonder what force compels the boy to be as ''unique'' as he is. How will he be when he is older? The difference between Roger and the other boys in the choir, including Jack, is that the others weren't any worse than human nature (which is quite bad to begin with), but Roger was actually ''evil''. The stick sharpened at both ends. Killing Piggy. Now imagine what he could do if he weren't trapped on an island and had access to more than sticks and rocks.

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* Roger. You have to wonder what force compels the boy to be as ''unique'' as he is. How will he be when he is older? The difference between Roger and the other boys in the choir, including Jack, is that the others weren't any worse than what Golding believed human nature (which is quite bad to begin with), was, but Roger was actually ''evil''. The stick sharpened at both ends. Killing Piggy. Now imagine what he could do if he weren't trapped on an island and had access to more than sticks and rocks.
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** A quick but effective moment in the 1990 film; the camera pans back as Simon's body lies on the beach, the dark of night covering up how mutilated he is - until a flash of lightning briefly shows everything.

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** A quick but effective moment in the 1990 film; the camera pans back as Simon's body lies on the beach, the dark of night covering up how mutilated he is - until a flash of lightning briefly shows everything.''everything''.
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* In one scene where Ralph is forced to flee, he encounters the skull of the pig. It is described as having been as white as the old conch used to be, and when Ralph breaks it, he finds the skull still sneering at him. This seemingly represents how the Lord of the Flies and all its evil have become the dominant force on the island.
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* Sam and Eric's situation near the end is not pretty. Imagine your enemies outnumber you, you're attacked while sleeping, your friend's glasses are stolen and you go to retrieve them only to be kidnapped and tortured to join them. They kill one friend and wound the other and you're forced to hunt and murder him.

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* Sam and Eric's situation near the end is not pretty. Imagine your enemies outnumber you, you're attacked while sleeping, your friend's glasses are stolen and you go to retrieve them only to be kidnapped and tortured to join them.your enemies. They kill one friend and wound the other and you're forced to hunt and murder him.

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[[caption-width-right:350: "Kill the pig! Cut her throat! Spill her blood!"]]



* "Kill the pig! Cut her throat! Spill her blood!

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* "Kill the pig! Cut her throat! Spill her blood!blood!"
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* Simon's death, where he is mistaken for the Beast that the boys have been hunting and stabbed with spears. Even more horrifying, he is the only one to figure out the truth that the Beast isn't real. It's also mentioned he was BITTEN and TORN. %%A group of 12-year olds are biting another 12 year old who hasn't bathed himself in weeks...
** A quick but effective moment in the 1990 film; the camera pans back as Simon's body lies on the beach, the dark of night covering up how mutilated he is - until a flash of lighting briefly shows everything.

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* Simon's death, where he is mistaken for the Beast that the boys have been hunting and stabbed with spears. Even more horrifying, he is the only one to figure out the truth that the Beast isn't real. It's also mentioned he was BITTEN and TORN. %%A group of 12-year olds 12-year-olds are biting another 12 year old 12-year-old who hasn't bathed himself in weeks...
** A quick but effective moment in the 1990 film; the camera pans back as Simon's body lies on the beach, the dark of night covering up how mutilated he is - until a flash of lighting lightning briefly shows everything.



** Piggy's whole situation is terrifying. Imagine being a severely handicapped individual on an island where people bully you, you have two influential people who support you, and your handicaps prevents you from asserting yourself. As time passes the values you hold dear are being eroded around you, and the bully starts hitting you with less restraint. Finally, someone steals your glasses, and decides that your are no longer needed, and drops a rock on you.

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** Piggy's whole situation is terrifying. Imagine being a severely handicapped individual on an island where people bully you, you have two influential people who support you, and your handicaps prevents prevent you from asserting yourself. As time passes passes, the values you hold dear are being eroded around you, and the bully starts hitting you with less restraint. Finally, someone steals your glasses, glasses and decides that your you are no longer needed, and drops needed before dropping a rock on you.



** Oh, it gets even more disturbing. The killing of the pig gets so intense, that the boys aren't thinking about food any more: they're just ecstatic about holding so much power over a helpless creature, that they can do whatever they want to it with no repercussions. The whole thing reads like a gang-rape scene. You could replace the word "spear" with "penis" and the effect would be pretty much the same.

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** Oh, it gets even more disturbing. The killing of the pig gets so intense, that the boys aren't thinking about food any more: anymore: they're just ecstatic about holding so much power over a helpless creature, that they can do whatever they want to it with no repercussions. The whole thing reads like a gang-rape scene. You could replace the word "spear" with "penis" and the effect would be pretty much the same.



-->''"Fancy thinking the Beast was something you could hunt and kill!" said the head. For a moment or two the forest and all the other dimly appreciated places echoed with the parody of laughter. "You knew, didn't you? I'm part of you? Close, close, close! I'm the reason why it's no go? Why things are what they are?" The laughter shivered again.''

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-->''"Fancy thinking the Beast was something you could hunt and kill!" said the head. For a moment or two two, the forest and all the other dimly appreciated places echoed with the parody of laughter. "You knew, didn't you? I'm part of you? Close, close, close! I'm the reason why it's no go? Why things are what they are?" The laughter shivered again.''



* The way that the boys ended up stranded is often overlooked in discussion of the novel, since their time on the island is the main focus. It has some truly horrifying implications, though. ''Lord of the Flies'' is ultimately a novel about the survivors of a global thermonuclear war. When they're rescued in the end, it's by a military ship. We never do find out what they came back home to (or if their homes still existed at all), but there's a good chance that it's not much better than what they left. Just the same acts of war and violence, but on a larger scale.
* Sam and Eric's situation near the end is not pretty. Imagine your enemies outnumber you, you're attacked while sleeping, your friends glasses are stolen and you go to retrive them only to be kidnapped and tortured to join them, they kill one friend and wound the other and you're forced you to hunt and murder him.

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* The way that the boys ended up stranded is often overlooked in the discussion of the novel, novel since their time on the island is the main focus. It has some truly horrifying implications, though. ''Lord of the Flies'' is ultimately a novel about the survivors of a global thermonuclear war. When they're rescued in the end, it's by a military ship. We never do find out what they came back home to (or if their homes still existed at all), but there's a good chance that it's not much better than what they left. Just the same acts of war and violence, but on a larger scale.
* Sam and Eric's situation near the end is not pretty. Imagine your enemies outnumber you, you're attacked while sleeping, your friends friend's glasses are stolen and you go to retrive retrieve them only to be kidnapped and tortured to join them, they them. They kill one friend and wound the other and you're forced you to hunt and murder him.
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* Sam and Eric's situation near the end is not pretty. Imagine your enemies outnumber you, you're attacked while sleeping, your friends glasses are stolen and you go to retrive them only to be kidnapped and tortured to join them, they kill one friend and wound the other and you're forced you to hunt and murder your last friend.

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* Sam and Eric's situation near the end is not pretty. Imagine your enemies outnumber you, you're attacked while sleeping, your friends glasses are stolen and you go to retrive them only to be kidnapped and tortured to join them, they kill one friend and wound the other and you're forced you to hunt and murder your last friend.him.
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* Sam and Eric's situation near the end is not pretty. Imagine your enemies outnumber you, you're attacked while sleeping, your friends glasses are stolen and you go to retrive them only to be kidnapped and tortured to join them, they kill one friend and wound the other and you're forced you to hunt and murder your last friend.
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* The way that the boys ended up stranded is often overlooked in discussion of the novel, since their time on the island is the main focus. It has some truly horrifying implications, though. ''Lord of the Flies'' is ultimately a novel about a global thermonuclear war. When they're rescued in the end, it's by a military ship. We never do find out what they came back home to (or if their homes still existed at all), but there's a good chance that it's not much better than what they left. Just the same acts of war and violence, but on a larger scale.

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* The way that the boys ended up stranded is often overlooked in discussion of the novel, since their time on the island is the main focus. It has some truly horrifying implications, though. ''Lord of the Flies'' is ultimately a novel about the survivors of a global thermonuclear war. When they're rescued in the end, it's by a military ship. We never do find out what they came back home to (or if their homes still existed at all), but there's a good chance that it's not much better than what they left. Just the same acts of war and violence, but on a larger scale.
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* The way that the boys ended up stranded is often overlooked in discussion of the novel, since their time on the island is the main focus. It has some truly horrifying implications, though. ''Lord of the Flies'' is ultimately a novel about a global thermonuclear war. When they're rescued in the end, it's by a military ship. We never do find out what they came back home to (or if their homes still existed at all), but there's a good chance that it's not much better than what they left. Just the same acts of war and violence, but on a larger scale.
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** Not surprisingly, [[SchoolStudyMedia assigning a novel to grade school students]] tends to be controversial among parents of grade-school children and their teachers, but even those who permit it tend to let the students skip over this scene because it's ''that'' gruesome.
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''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' has lots of creepy stuff, like the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that HumansAreBastards, ''especially'' [[KidsAreCruel little kids]].

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''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' has lots of creepy stuff, like the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop William Golding's firm belief that HumansAreBastards, ''especially'' [[KidsAreCruel little kids]].
[[TeensAreMonsters preteens and teenagers]].
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''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' has lots of creepy stuff, like the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that HumansAreBastards, ''especially'' little kids.

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''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' has lots of creepy stuff, like the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that HumansAreBastards, ''especially'' [[KidsAreCruel little kids.
kids]].
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* Simon's death, where he is mistaken for the Beast that the boys have been hunting and stabbed with spears. Even more horrifying, he is the only one to figure out the truth that the Beast isn't real.It's also mentioned he was BITTEN and TORN. %%A group of 12-year olds are biting another 12 year old who hasn't bathed himself in weeks...

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* Simon's death, where he is mistaken for the Beast that the boys have been hunting and stabbed with spears. Even more horrifying, he is the only one to figure out the truth that the Beast isn't real. It's also mentioned he was BITTEN and TORN. %%A group of 12-year olds are biting another 12 year old who hasn't bathed himself in weeks...
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* Jack, a 12-year-old boy, going all the way to becoming an EvilOverlord, complete with an EvilTowerOfOminousness, a sacrificial cult, bloody rituals, PraetorianGuard and a royal executioner.

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* Jack, a 12-year-old boy, going from just a ControlFreak who likes hunting all the way to becoming an EvilOverlord, complete with an EvilTowerOfOminousness, a [[ReligionOfEvil sacrificial cult, cult]], bloody rituals, PraetorianGuard PraetorianGuard, [[TwoPlusTortureEqualsFive torturing]] and killing opponents and a royal executioner.executioner.
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''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' has lots of creepy stuff, like the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that HumansAreBastards, ''especially'' [[KidsAreCruel little kids.]]

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''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'' has lots of creepy stuff, like the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that HumansAreBastards, ''especially'' [[KidsAreCruel little kids.]]
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* Roger. You have to wonder what force compels the boy to be as ''unique'' as he is. How will he be when he is older? The difference between Roger and the other boys in the choir, including Jack, is that the others weren't any worse than human nature (which is quite bad to begin with), but Roger was actually ''evil''. The stick sharpened at both ends. Killing Piggy. [[FridgeHorror Now imagine what he could do if he weren't trapped on an island and had access to more than sticks and rocks.]]
* Simon's death, where he is mistaken for the Beast that the boys have been hunting and stabbed with spears. Even more horrifying, he is the only one to figure out the truth that the Beast isn't real.
** Not only was he stabbed and beaten by the boys with spears, it mentions he was BITTEN and TORN. %%A group of 12-year olds are biting another 12 year old who hasn't bathed himself in weeks...

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* Roger. You have to wonder what force compels the boy to be as ''unique'' as he is. How will he be when he is older? The difference between Roger and the other boys in the choir, including Jack, is that the others weren't any worse than human nature (which is quite bad to begin with), but Roger was actually ''evil''. The stick sharpened at both ends. Killing Piggy. [[FridgeHorror Now imagine what he could do if he weren't trapped on an island and had access to more than sticks and rocks.]]
rocks.
* Simon's death, where he is mistaken for the Beast that the boys have been hunting and stabbed with spears. Even more horrifying, he is the only one to figure out the truth that the Beast isn't real.
** Not only was he stabbed and beaten by the boys with spears, it mentions
real.It's also mentioned he was BITTEN and TORN. %%A group of 12-year olds are biting another 12 year old who hasn't bathed himself in weeks...



** Piggy's whole situation is terrifying. Imagine being a severely handicapped individual on an island where people bully you, you have like two influential people who support you, and your handicaps prevents you from asserting yourself. As time passes the values you hold dear are being eroded around you, and the bully starts hitting you with less restraint. Finally, someone steals your glasses, and decides that your are no longer needed, and drops a rock on you.

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** Piggy's whole situation is terrifying. Imagine being a severely handicapped individual on an island where people bully you, you have like two influential people who support you, and your handicaps prevents you from asserting yourself. As time passes the values you hold dear are being eroded around you, and the bully starts hitting you with less restraint. Finally, someone steals your glasses, and decides that your are no longer needed, and drops a rock on you.



-->'''Jack''': [[AxCrazy YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE BLOOD!]]

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-->'''Jack''': [[AxCrazy YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE BLOOD!]]BLOOD!



-->''They surrounded the covert but the sow got away with the sting of another spear in her flank. The trailing butts hindered her and the sharp, cross-cut points were a torment. She blundered into a tree, forcing a spear still deeper; and after that any of the hunters could follow her easily by the drops of vivid blood […].Here, struck down by the heat, the sow fell and the hunters hurled themselves at her. This dreadful eruption from an unknown world made her frantic; she squealed and bucked and the air was full of sweat and noise and blood and terror […]. The spear moved forward inch by inch and the terrified squealing became a high-pitched scream. Then Jack found the throat and the hot blood spouted over his hands. The sow collapsed under them […]. At last the immediacy of the kill subsided. The boys drew back, and Jack stood up, holding out his hands. "Look." He giggled and flecked them while the boys laughed at his reeking palms. Then Jack grabbed Maurice and rubbed the stuff over his cheeks . . . "Right up her ass!"''

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-->''They --->''They surrounded the covert but the sow got away with the sting of another spear in her flank. The trailing butts hindered her and the sharp, cross-cut points were a torment. She blundered into a tree, forcing a spear still deeper; and after that any of the hunters could follow her easily by the drops of vivid blood […].Here, struck down by the heat, the sow fell and the hunters hurled themselves at her. This dreadful eruption from an unknown world made her frantic; she squealed and bucked and the air was full of sweat and noise and blood and terror […]. The spear moved forward inch by inch and the terrified squealing became a high-pitched scream. Then Jack found the throat and the hot blood spouted over his hands. The sow collapsed under them […]. At last the immediacy of the kill subsided. The boys drew back, and Jack stood up, holding out his hands. "Look." He giggled and flecked them while the boys laughed at his reeking palms. Then Jack grabbed Maurice and rubbed the stuff over his cheeks . . . "Right up her ass!"''



* Near the end of the book, when Ralph is in his hiding place and hears a savage coming. He first hopes that it might be [[TokenGoodTeammate Sam & Eric]], who'll just pretend that they didn't see him, but as the figure emerges he comes face to face with ''[[TheDragon Roger.]]'' Cue Ralph screaming and running for his life.
* "Sharpened a stick at both ends." Remember the last time the boys did that, they used it to offer the sow's head as a sacrifice. It's implied that Ralph realized that his head was going to be cut off and put on a stake as a sacrifice for the Beast.

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* Near the end of the book, when Ralph is in his hiding place and hears a savage coming. He first hopes that it might be [[TokenGoodTeammate Sam & Eric]], Eric, who'll just pretend that they didn't see him, but as the figure emerges he comes face to face with ''[[TheDragon Roger.]]'' ''Roger.'' Cue Ralph screaming and running for his life.
* "Sharpened a stick at both ends." Remember the last time the boys did that, they used it to offer the sow's head as a sacrifice. It's implied that Ralph realized that his head was going to be cut off and put on a stake as a sacrifice for the Beast.Beast.
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* Near the end of the book, when Ralph is in his hiding place and hears a savage coming. He first hopes that it might be [[TokenGoodTeammate Sam & Eric]], who'll just pretend that they didn't see him, but as the figure emerges he comes face to face with ''Roger.'' Cue Ralph screaming and running for his life.

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* Near the end of the book, when Ralph is in his hiding place and hears a savage coming. He first hopes that it might be [[TokenGoodTeammate Sam & Eric]], who'll just pretend that they didn't see him, but as the figure emerges he comes face to face with ''Roger.'' ''[[TheDragon Roger.]]'' Cue Ralph screaming and running for his life.
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* "Sharpened a stick at both ends." Remember the last time the boys did that, they used it to offer the sow's head as a sacrifice. It's implied that Ralph realized that his head was going to be cut off and put on a stake as a sacrifice for the Beast […]. The laughter shivered again."''

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* "Sharpened a stick at both ends." Remember the last time the boys did that, they used it to offer the sow's head as a sacrifice. It's implied that Ralph realized that his head was going to be cut off and put on a stake as a sacrifice for the Beast […]. The laughter shivered again."''Beast.

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-->''"Fancy thinking the Beast was something you could hunt and kill!" said the head. For a moment or two the forest and all the other dimly appreciated places echoed with the parody of laughter. "You knew, didn't you? I'm part of you? Close, close, close! I'm the reason why it's no go? Why things are what they are?"
The laughter shivered again.''

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-->''"Fancy thinking the Beast was something you could hunt and kill!" said the head. For a moment or two the forest and all the other dimly appreciated places echoed with the parody of laughter. "You knew, didn't you? I'm part of you? Close, close, close! I'm the reason why it's no go? Why things are what they are?"
are?" The laughter shivered again.''

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