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** The [[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation2}} [[Platform/Playstation2 PS2]] remake/[[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation3}} remake/[[Platform/Playstation3 PS3]] HD [=ReMIX=] versions have him ''gloriously burned alive''.
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* When Riku Rep. was brainwashed to think he was the real Riku, even though he was happy with the way he was. We don't see it either...we just see his speech box saying "No!!" It was really unsettling and sad. He was very forcibly brainwashed. It almost seems like something else for a bit...or that he had to be beaten into submission. The poor guy... Arguably worse in the remake, as the jump-cut occurs right after Larxene slams him against a wall. The looming shot before Riku Rep.'s BigNo is reminiscent of vultures about to dine on a helpless dying animal.
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* When Riku Rep. was brainwashed to think he was the real Riku, even though he was happy with the way he was. We don't see it either... we just see his speech box saying "No!!" It was really unsettling and sad. He was very forcibly brainwashed. It almost seems like something else for a bit... or that he had to be beaten into submission. The poor guy... Arguably worse in the remake, as the jump-cut occurs right after Larxene slams him against a wall. The looming shot before Riku Rep.'s BigNo is reminiscent of vultures about to dine on a helpless dying animal.
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* Organization XIII. At the time, this was both Sora's and the player's introduction to the Nobodies, and even then, the game doesn't quite explain what exactly they are. All the player knows is they're a shady group of people with sinister goals, but it slowly comes to light that there's something very....''off'' about them and how they act towards each other and towards Sora. The fact that they [[spoiler:supposedly]] have no heart and thus no real emotions or feelings just makes them all the more wrong. The remake even has a horrified Sora, who has just witnessed Vexen's death, ask the very question the player is probably wondering.
-->'''Sora:''' What are......WHAT ''ARE'' YOU PEOPLE!?
-->'''Axel:''' Heh....don't know. I wonder about that myself...
** The game shows us 6 members of the Organization (Marluxia, Larxene, Axel, Vexen, Zexion, Lexaeus), but implies that there's plenty more of them and that one of which is their leader. Think about that from the perspective of this game: you're in a creepy castle, losing your memories, an unknown variable to the plots of sinister people within, ''and there's more of them out there''...
-->'''Sora:''' What are......WHAT ''ARE'' YOU PEOPLE!?
-->'''Axel:''' Heh....don't know. I wonder about that myself...
** The game shows us 6 members of the Organization (Marluxia, Larxene, Axel, Vexen, Zexion, Lexaeus), but implies that there's plenty more of them and that one of which is their leader. Think about that from the perspective of this game: you're in a creepy castle, losing your memories, an unknown variable to the plots of sinister people within, ''and there's more of them out there''...
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-->'''Oogie:''' No! Get back! Stay away from me!
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-->'''Oogie:''' No! Get back! Stay away from me!me!
* The EarlyBirdCameo of Twilight Town is this in spades. On one hand, the implication that something ''inside'' Sora has been there without his knowledge is terrifying. On the other hand, the AlienGeometries of Castle Oblivion makes it impossible to even ''guess'' what the town in question could even be.
* The EarlyBirdCameo of Twilight Town is this in spades. On one hand, the implication that something ''inside'' Sora has been there without his knowledge is terrifying. On the other hand, the AlienGeometries of Castle Oblivion makes it impossible to even ''guess'' what the town in question could even be.
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[[caption-width-right:350:That's right folks, a Disney game with [[TheGrimReaper the personification of death itself]].
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** Vexen's death became [[HarsherInHindsight even worse]] when ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHearts3DDreamDropDistance Dream Drop Distance]]'' reveals that [[spoiler: Nobodies can regrow hearts and experience emotions given enough time, meaning that Vexen could very well have been genuinely terrified at the thought of dying. The same game alleviates this by revealing that Vexen was restored to his old self after his "death," and considering what Xemnas [[GrandTheftMe originally intended for the Organization]], [[MercyKill Axel practically did Vexen a favor]].]]
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** Given what we learn in later entries, what the Nobody-like thing that he fuses with for both his forms are a mix of this and TearJerker.
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* Sora slowly losing all of his memories, specifically replacing Kairi -- one of his best friends -- with Naminé, was rather disturbing. The depth of his brainwashing was made most explicit when Sora begged Naminé to break his heart to save herself, knowing that she'd been manipulating him the entire time and that he'd probably end up catatonic, [[DiesWideOpen staring]] at nothing just like the Riku-Replica.
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* Sora slowly losing all of his memories, specifically replacing Kairi -- one of his best friends -- with Naminé, was rather disturbing. The depth of his brainwashing was made most explicit when Sora begged Naminé to break his heart to save herself, knowing that she'd been manipulating him the entire time and that he'd probably end up catatonic, [[DiesWideOpen staring]] at nothing just like the Riku-Replica. Even Marluxia finds himself completely baffled that both Sora and the Riku-Replica are willing to continue honoring their fake promises, [[TheReasonYouSuck mocking the pair of them for desperately clinging to lies.]]
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* What about Namine's ordeal? Unlike other Nobodies, who were born in Twilight Town, the poor girl had the bad luck of being born in a huge, intimidating-looking castle that houses no one else except for a comatose boy whom she can't even locate. She had no one to talk to, nobody to form relationship with, and immediately after that, she was taken prisoner by a bunch of adult men (and one sadistic woman) who psychologically torture her by making her hurt someone she never met under the threat of her safety.
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* What about Namine's ordeal? Unlike other Nobodies, who were born in Twilight Town, the poor girl had the bad luck of being born in a huge, intimidating-looking castle that houses no one else except for [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep a comatose boy whom she can't even locate. locate]]. She had no one to talk to, nobody to form a relationship with, and immediately after that, she was taken prisoner by a bunch of adult men (and one sadistic woman) who psychologically torture her by making her hurt someone she never met under the threat of her safety.
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**Vexen's death became [[HarsherInHindsight even worse]] when ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHearts3DDreamDropDistance Dream Drop Distance]]'' reveals that [[spoiler: Nobodies can regrow hearts and experience emotions given enough time, meaning that Vexen could very well have been genuinely terrified at the thought of dying. The same game alleviates this by revealing that Vexen was restored to his old self after his "death," and considering what Xemnas [[GrandTheftMe originally intended for the Organization]], [[MercyKill Axel practically did Vexen a favor]].]]
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** Up until the {{Reveal}}, some of Sora's "memories" of Naminé have an ominous feel to them. He claims that she "suddenly moved away" and that the adults knew why, but he was too young to understand what they were telling him. Then Riku Replica appears and tells Sora that Naminé hates him and it has something to do with why she moved away. ''None'' of the implications there are good, but fortunately, it all turns out to be fake anyway.
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** Given what we learn in later entries, what the Nobody-like thing that he fuses with for both his forms are a mix of this and TearJerker.
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** It gets worse when you play ''Birth by Sleep'' and learn that it didn't always look like that. It used to be a lively place where light and darkness coexisted and was renowned for being a haven for Keyblade wielders. To see such an innocent-looking place eventually transformed into a terrifying maze...but that was probably the point. Those who envisaged the transformation "trick" possibly realized that designating the place as a haven would naturally attract untold enemies on its doorstep, so they put up a failsafe that were the place is to go down, it will sentence its attackers to [[MeaningfulName oblivion]] (and it ''[[MindRape won't]]'' be painless).
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* When Riku Rep. was brainwashed to think he was the real Riku, even though he was happy with the way he was. We don't see it either...we just see his speech box saying "No!!" It was really unsettling and sad. He was very forcibly brainwashed. It almost seems like something else for a bit...or that he had to be beaten into submission. The poor guy...
** Arguably worse in the remake, as the jump-cut occurs right after Larxene slams him against a wall. The looming shot before Riku Rep.'s BigNo is reminiscent of vultures about to dine on a helpless dying animal.
** Arguably worse in the remake, as the jump-cut occurs right after Larxene slams him against a wall. The looming shot before Riku Rep.'s BigNo is reminiscent of vultures about to dine on a helpless dying animal.
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* When Riku Rep. was brainwashed to think he was the real Riku, even though he was happy with the way he was. We don't see it either...we just see his speech box saying "No!!" It was really unsettling and sad. He was very forcibly brainwashed. It almost seems like something else for a bit...or that he had to be beaten into submission. The poor guy...
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* Vexen's death in the manga. We're treated to a glorious two-page spread... ''of Axel punching a hole through Vexen's chest''.
** Vexen's death in general, which has two other versions. The original GBA version has Axel cutting his throat from behind. The [[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation2}} PS2]] remake/[[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation3}} PS3]] HD [=ReMIX=] versions have him ''gloriously burned alive''.
** Vexen's death in general, which has two other versions. The original GBA version has Axel cutting his throat from behind. The [[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation2}} PS2]] remake/[[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation3}} PS3]] HD [=ReMIX=] versions have him ''gloriously burned alive''.
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* Vexen's death in the manga. We're treated to a glorious two-page spread... ''of Axel punching a hole through Vexen's chest''.
** Vexen's death in general,death, no matter which has two other versions. version:
** The original GBA version has Axel cutting his throat frombehind. behind.
** The [[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation2}} PS2]] remake/[[UsefulNotes/{{Playstation3}} PS3]] HD [=ReMIX=] versions have him ''gloriously burnedalive''.alive''.
** In the manga, we're treated to a glorious two-page spread... ''of Axel punching a hole through Vexen's chest''.
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** In the manga, we're treated to a glorious two-page spread... ''of Axel punching a hole through Vexen's chest''.
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* Marluxia's third form (pictured above) looks like something straight out of a horror game; the music and the arena we fight that thing in doesn't help either.
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* Marluxia's [[OneWingedAngel third form (pictured above) form]] looks like something straight out of a horror game; the music and the arena we fight that thing in doesn't help either.
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** It gets worse when you play ''Birth by Sleep'' and learns that it didn't always look like that. It used to be a lively place where light and darkness coexisted and was renowned for being a haven for Keyblade wielders. To see such an innocent-looking place eventually transformed into a terrifying maze...but that was probably the point. Those who envisaged the transformation "trick" possibly realized that designating the place as a haven would naturally attract untold enemies on its doorstep, so they put up a failsafe that were the place is to go down, it will sentence its attackers to [[MeaningfulName oblivion]] (and it ''[[MindRape won't]]'' be painless).
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** It gets worse when you play ''Birth by Sleep'' and learns learn that it didn't always look like that. It used to be a lively place where light and darkness coexisted and was renowned for being a haven for Keyblade wielders. To see such an innocent-looking place eventually transformed into a terrifying maze...but that was probably the point. Those who envisaged the transformation "trick" possibly realized that designating the place as a haven would naturally attract untold enemies on its doorstep, so they put up a failsafe that were the place is to go down, it will sentence its attackers to [[MeaningfulName oblivion]] (and it ''[[MindRape won't]]'' be painless).
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** It gets worse when you play ''Birth by Sleep'' and learns that it didn't always look like that. It used to be a lively place where light and darkness coexisted and was renowned for being a haven for Keyblade wielders. To see such an innocent-looking place eventually transformed into a terrifying maze...but that was probably the point. Those who envisaged the transformation "trick" possibly realized that designating the place as a haven would naturally attract untold enemies on its doorstep, so they put up a failsafe that were the place is to go down, it will sentence its attackers to [[MeaningfulName oblivion]] (and it ''[[MindRape won't]]'' be painless).
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** Arguably worse in the remake, as the jump-cut occurs right after [[spoiler: Larxene slams him against a wall]].wall. The looming shot before Riku Rep.'s BigNo is reminiscent of vultures about to dine on a helpless dying animal.