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* While it certainly doubles as a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for him, the scene where Joker [[spoiler: invades the Batcave and gasses Bruce]] gave this troper nightmares for ''years'', especially the POV from Bruce's eyes, which now provides us with the [[SarcasmMode lovely]] [[NightmareFace "welcoming face"]] for this page. ''*shudders*''
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* While it certainly doubles as a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for him, the scene where Joker [[spoiler: invades the Batcave and gasses Bruce]] gave this troper nightmares for ''years'', especially the POV shot from Bruce's eyes, which now provides us with the [[SarcasmMode lovely]] [[NightmareFace "welcoming face"]] for this page. ''*shudders*''
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** And then all our fears are horrifyingly confirmed when Joker [[invades the Batcave]], and says the two words we never wanted to hear:
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** We do kinda know that this line is coming, though, as it's hinted at twice earlier, first when the Joker and his gang crash the party at Wayne Enterprises, and Bruce sees him for the first time.
-->'''Bruce:''' It can't be...
-->'''Joker:''' Oh, no. Your old eyes do not deceive you, Brucie! After all, [[spoiler: who'd know me better than ''you''?]]
** And then all our fears are horrifyingly confirmed when Joker [[invades the Batcave]], and says the two words we never wanted to hear:
-->'''Joker:''' Hello... [[spoiler: ''Batman'']]. (''EvilLaugh'')
-->'''Bruce:''' It can't be...
-->'''Joker:''' Oh, no. Your old eyes do not deceive you, Brucie! After all, [[spoiler: who'd know me better than ''you''?]]
** And then all our fears are horrifyingly confirmed when Joker [[invades the Batcave]], and says the two words we never wanted to hear:
-->'''Joker:''' Hello... [[spoiler: ''Batman'']]. (''EvilLaugh'')
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* [[spoiler:Tim himself,]] after what the Joker does to him. [[spoiler:Everything about "Little J" is just ''wrong''; the stooped, awkward gait, [[SlasherSmile the permanent (and probably surgical) rictus-grin]], [[ThousandYardStare the psychotic wide-eyed stare]], and that [[HellIsThatNoise '''laugh''']]!]] Heck, [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dcmovies/images/2/27/Joker_Jr..jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120617191154 just take a look for yourself!]]
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* [[spoiler:Tim himself,]] after what the Joker does to him. [[spoiler:Everything about "Little J" is just ''wrong''; the stooped, awkward gait, [[SlasherSmile the permanent (and probably surgical) rictus-grin]], [[ThousandYardStare the psychotic wide-eyed stare]], and that [[HellIsThatNoise '''laugh''']]!]] '''[[HellIsThatNoise laugh]]'''!]] Heck, [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dcmovies/images/2/27/Joker_Jr..jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120617191154 just take a look for yourself!]]
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* [[spoiler:Tim himself,]] after what the Joker does to him. [[spoiler:Everything about "Little J" is just ''wrong''; the stooped, awkward gait, [[SlasherSmile the permanent (and probably surgical) rictus-grin]], [[ThousandYardStare the psychotic wide-eyed stare]], and that [[HellIsThatNoise '''laugh''']]!]] Heck, [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dcmovies/images/2/27/Joker_Jr..jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120617191154 just take a look for yourself!]]
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* While it certainly doubles as a CrowningMomentOfAwesome for him, the scene where Joker [[spoiler: invades the Batcave and gasses Bruce]] gave this troper nightmares for ''years'', especially the POV from Bruce's eyes, which now provides us with the [[SarcasmMode lovely]] [[NightmareFace "welcoming face"]] for this page. ''*shudders*''
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* Anything involving Joker, particularly the following quote, which is positively ''chilling''...
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*Anything involving Joker, particularly the following quote, which is positively ''chilling''...
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* [[spoiler: The GrandTheftMe trope is quite chilling in virtually any work of fiction, and here is certainly no exception. The Joker states that with time he will learn to ''permanently'' suppress Tim's natural consciousness, effectively causing a DeathOfPersonality. Also, as he's using Tim's body, he can impersonate Tim's voice and effectively deceive people--including Tim's own wife--through phone calls.]]
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* [[spoiler: The GrandTheftMe trope is quite chilling in virtually any work of fiction, and here is certainly no exception. The Joker states that with time he will learn to ''permanently'' suppress Tim's natural consciousness, effectively causing a DeathOfPersonality. Also, as he's using Tim's body, he can impersonate Tim's voice and effectively deceive people--including Tim's own wife--through phone calls.]]]]
* The opening fight with the Joker's gang, particularly one moment when Terry faced off with the CreepyTwins. That was the moment when he was momentarily on his knees and a bit groggy from a blow and one twins is winding up for a kick to his head. As the scene goes quiet and you see her from Terry's wavering point of view, the utterly sadistic glee on her face and the disturbingly confident graceful movement to her upcoming attack clearly sends the message that this is going to hurt and she regards it as a highpoint of her life to get this chance to lay the Dark Knight low.
* The opening fight with the Joker's gang, particularly one moment when Terry faced off with the CreepyTwins. That was the moment when he was momentarily on his knees and a bit groggy from a blow and one twins is winding up for a kick to his head. As the scene goes quiet and you see her from Terry's wavering point of view, the utterly sadistic glee on her face and the disturbingly confident graceful movement to her upcoming attack clearly sends the message that this is going to hurt and she regards it as a highpoint of her life to get this chance to lay the Dark Knight low.
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* A line you'd never want to hear the Joker say:
--->'''Joker:''' [[spoiler:In time, he told me everything... ''Bruce.'']]
--->'''Joker:''' [[spoiler:In time, he told me everything... ''Bruce.'']]
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* The way Batman just growls "I'll break you in two".
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*** Don't forget Robin's [[LaughingMad disquieting laugh]] gradually fading into broken sobs.
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** The soundtrack [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OaKX9gnKVM "Joker Family Portrait"]] makes it all the worse -- while it starts off as a light and bouncy (if somewhat morbid) riff on 50's sitcom themes, complete with MickeyMousing, everything stops dead with a sudden low piano chord [[spoiler:as Tim is revealed strapped to the operating table. As both he and Joker begin to laugh uncontrollably,]] the horns play a DarkReprise of the earlier "family" leitmotif. Worst of all is [[HellIsThatNoise the high, screaming electric guitar notes]], apparently created with the vibrations from a music box.
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* [[spoiler: The GrandTheftMe trope is quite chilling in virtually any work of fiction, and here is certainly no exception. The Joker states that with time he will learn to ''permanently'' suppress Tim's natural consciousness, effectively causing a DeathOfPersonality.]]
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* [[spoiler: The GrandTheftMe trope is quite chilling in virtually any work of fiction, and here is certainly no exception. The Joker states that with time he will learn to ''permanently'' suppress Tim's natural consciousness, effectively causing a DeathOfPersonality. Also, as he's using Tim's body, he can impersonate Tim's voice and effectively deceive people--including Tim's own wife--through phone calls.]]
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* The fact that despite voicing the character for nearly a decade by this point, Creator/MarkHamill actually felt uncomfortable voicing him in this one. Let's put that in perspective. In the original series, the Joker repeatedly killed people in droves, abused his girlfriend, stalked a guy for years on end, and created Joker venom, which is basically NightmareFuel in gas form. All of which was turned UpToEleven in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm''. And yet [[MoralEventHorizon what the Joker did]] in this movie unnerved him.
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* The fact that despite voicing the character for nearly a decade by this point, Creator/MarkHamill actually felt uncomfortable voicing him in this one. Let's put that in perspective. In the original series, the Joker repeatedly killed people in droves, abused his girlfriend, stalked a guy for years on end, and created Joker venom, which is basically NightmareFuel in gas form. All of which was turned UpToEleven in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm''. And yet [[MoralEventHorizon what the Joker did]] in this movie unnerved him.him.
* [[spoiler: The GrandTheftMe trope is quite chilling in virtually any work of fiction, and here is certainly no exception. The Joker states that with time he will learn to ''permanently'' suppress Tim's natural consciousness, effectively causing a DeathOfPersonality.]]
* [[spoiler: The GrandTheftMe trope is quite chilling in virtually any work of fiction, and here is certainly no exception. The Joker states that with time he will learn to ''permanently'' suppress Tim's natural consciousness, effectively causing a DeathOfPersonality.]]
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** In the edited version, [[spoiler:the Joker gives Tim the laughing gas gun and tells him to "make [Batman] one of us". However, Batman's voice easily breaks through Tim's mind, and he puts away the gun, and pushes the Joker into a room with two tanks of water; the Clown Prince of Crime gets knocked into one, gets soaking wet, and tries going after Tim, but he slips and turns on the electrode machine. The scene immediately cuts to the outside of the room, ''[[ScreamDiscretionShot where his horrifying death scream is heard]]!'' Nothing says it's Nightmare Fuel [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids for kids]] like this one! And you thought the film developers were trying to make things any easier. It doesn't.]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that's less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that's less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
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** In the edited version, [[spoiler:the Joker gives Tim the laughing gas gun and tells him to "make [Batman] one of us". However, Batman's voice easily breaks through Tim's mind, and he puts away the gun, gun and pushes the Joker into a room with two tanks of water; the Clown Prince of Crime gets knocked into one, gets soaking wet, and tries going after Tim, but he slips and turns on the electrode machine. The scene immediately cuts to the outside of the room, ''[[ScreamDiscretionShot where his horrifying death scream is heard]]!'' Nothing says it's Nightmare Fuel [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids for kids]] like this one! And you thought the film developers were trying to make things any easier. It doesn't.]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGunBang "Bang!" Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that's less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun
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-->[[spoiler: Joker (Looking furious ''and'' euphoric) : euphoric): C'mon, [=McGinnis=]... You miserable little punk! LAUGH! IIIIII CAAAAAAN'T HEEEEAAAAAR YOOOOU!]]YOOOOU!]]
** [[spoiler:Before that, Tim knocks off the beakers before making his hideous transformation worthy of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde into the Joker via microchip. And Tim's voice evolves into that of the Clown Prince of Crime, which makes it all the scarier.]]
** [[spoiler:Before that, Tim knocks off the beakers before making his hideous transformation worthy of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde into the Joker via microchip. And Tim's voice evolves into that of the Clown Prince of Crime, which makes it all the scarier.]]
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** In the edited version, [[spoiler:the Joker gives Tim the laughing gas gun and tells him to "make [Batman] one of us". However, Batman's voice easily breaks through Tim's mind, and he grows soft, puts away the gun, and pushes the Joker into a room with two tanks of water; the Clown Prince of Crime gets knocked into one, gets soaking wet, and tries going after Tim, but he slips and turns on the electrode machine. The scene immediately cuts to the outside of the room, ''[[ScreamDiscretionShot where his horrifying death scream is heard]]!'' Nothing says it's Nightmare Fuel [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids for kids]] like this one! And you thought the film developers were trying to make things any easier. It doesn't.]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that is pretty much better and less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that is pretty much better and less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
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** In the edited version, [[spoiler:the Joker gives Tim the laughing gas gun and tells him to "make [Batman] one of us". However, Batman's voice easily breaks through Tim's mind, and he grows soft, puts away the gun, and pushes the Joker into a room with two tanks of water; the Clown Prince of Crime gets knocked into one, gets soaking wet, and tries going after Tim, but he slips and turns on the electrode machine. The scene immediately cuts to the outside of the room, ''[[ScreamDiscretionShot where his horrifying death scream is heard]]!'' Nothing says it's Nightmare Fuel [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids for kids]] like this one! And you thought the film developers were trying to make things any easier. It doesn't.]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeaththat is pretty much better and that's less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath
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* [[spoiler: Joker's VillainousBreakdown near the end. Imagine, if you will, as Joker's usual demeanor is chipped away piece by piece as Terry openly mocks him to try and catch him off guard. First he gets snappy, which isn't so bad. Then he screams "YOU'RE NOT BATMAN!", and completely loses it, and manage to swing a table at Terry... A little surprising. Pins Terry down with the table, stands on top of it, yanks the mask off and proceeds to strangle Terry, producing one of his most insane laughs ever given, sounding more and more unhinged as he speaks? Downright scary, especially when you get a POV shot from Terry's eyes for a few seconds.]]
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* The fact that despite voicing the character for nearly a decade by this point, Creator/MarkHamill actually felt uncomfortable voicing him in this one. Let's put that in perspective. In the original series, the Joker repeatedly killed people in droves, abused his girlfriend, stalked a guy for years on end, and created Joker venom, which is basically NightmareFuel in gas form. All of which was turned UpToEleven in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm''. And yet [[MoralEventHorizeon what the Joker did]] in this movie unnerved him.
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* The fact that despite voicing the character for nearly a decade by this point, Creator/MarkHamill actually felt uncomfortable voicing him in this one. Let's put that in perspective. In the original series, the Joker repeatedly killed people in droves, abused his girlfriend, stalked a guy for years on end, and created Joker venom, which is basically NightmareFuel in gas form. All of which was turned UpToEleven in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm''. And yet [[MoralEventHorizeon what the Joker did]] in this movie unnerved him.
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* When Terry heads back to the Batcave after being assaulted in the nightclub, he finds [[spoiler:the clock smashed, "HAHA"s spray-painted all over the cave (and it's worse in the uncut version of the film; the paint is ''blood red'')]] and worst of all, finding Bruce on the floor by the computer [[spoiler:apparently dead from Joker venom.]]
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--->'''Joker:''' [[spoiler:We couldn't adopt legally, but then we remembered you always had a few spare kids hanging around... ''so we borrowed one...'']]
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--->'''Joker:''' [[spoiler:We couldn't adopt [adopt] legally, but then we remembered you always had a few spare kids hanging around... ''so we borrowed one...'']]
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** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with [[HellIsThatNoise his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood]], and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that is pretty much better and less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
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** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with [[HellIsThatNoise his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood]], blood, and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that is pretty much better and less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
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--->'''Joker:''' [[spoiler:We couldn't adopt legally, but then we remembered you always had a few spare kids hanging around... ''so we borrowed one...'']]
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** The uncut version is even more terrifying: [[spoiler:the Joker tosses the [[BangFlagGun Bang Flag Spear Gun]] to Tim, then pulls Batman high as his trophy and says, "Make Daddy proud: deliver the punch line." Besides his chilling voice, Tim giggles like a maniac and, if you've seen the scene with Bonk, you know what's gonna happen: he pulls the trigger once and the "Bang!" flag pops up. When Batman tries to calm him down with "Tim...", he keeps giggling and doesn't calm down very easily, only more slowly than the edited version. Also, the aforementioned blood on both Batman's and the Joker's mouths and the same creepy music don't help matters either. The Nightmare Fuel starts getting higher and higher as the Joker, the blood still on his mouth, loudly barks out, '''''"DO IT!!!"''''' And the creepy music starts escalating UpToEleven as Tim laughs more loudly and is about to pull the trigger as if this were the end of Batman. But once the boy finally fires the gun... the projectile doesn't hit Batman at all. Instead, it hits the Joker in his vital spot, sending him flying across the room onto the giant building blocks. Gasping weakly, he mutters out his {{iron|y}}ic FamousLastWords: "That's not funny... [-that's not...-]" The Nightmare Fuel finishes off with [[HellIsThatNoise his dying gargle as he gets choked up in blood]], and then his body falling lifelessly onto the floor. Truly a FamilyUnfriendlyDeath that is pretty much better and less scary than the edited version, but still...]]
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* One could argue the uncut version is darker, but [[spoiler: Bonk's death in the re-edit version has him hit with Joker gas, dying of laughter as slowly as possible with his teammates looking on in fear.]]
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* One could argue the uncut version is darker, but [[spoiler: Bonk's death in the re-edit version has him hit with Joker gas, dying of laughter as slowly as possible with his teammates looking on in fear.]]fear]].
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* The scene where we see [[ColdBloodedTorture just what the Joker did to Robin]]. And the edited version of it looked even ''worse''. Just... that ''look'' on Batman's face as he sees the film.
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* The scene where we see [[ColdBloodedTorture just what the Joker did to Robin]]. And the edited version of it looked even ''worse''. Just... that ''look'' on Batman's face as he sees the film. film.
** The Joker's deep, chilling voice narrating the events in both the cut and uncut versions of the film is truly terrifying, as well as the creepy music that accompanies it.
** The Joker's deep, chilling voice narrating the events in both the cut and uncut versions of the film is truly terrifying, as well as the creepy music that accompanies it.
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*** And the [[BloodFromTheMouth blood from both the Joker's and Batman's mouths]] in the uncut version doesn't help either.
* Even more chilling is [[spoiler:the Joker's death scene, which varies depending on which version you watch]].
** In the edited version, [[spoiler:the Joker gives Tim the laughing gas gun and tells him to "make [Batman] one of us". However, Batman's voice easily breaks through Tim's mind, and he grows soft, puts away the gun, and pushes the Joker into a room with two tanks of water; the Clown Prince of Crime gets knocked into one, gets soaking wet, and tries going after Tim, but he slips and turns on the electrode machine. The scene immediately cuts to the outside of the room, ''[[ScreamDiscretionShot where his horrifying death scream is heard]]!'' Nothing says it's Nightmare Fuel [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids for kids]] like this one! And you thought the film developers were trying to make things any easier. It doesn't.]]
* Even more chilling is [[spoiler:the Joker's death scene, which varies depending on which version you watch]].
** In the edited version, [[spoiler:the Joker gives Tim the laughing gas gun and tells him to "make [Batman] one of us". However, Batman's voice easily breaks through Tim's mind, and he grows soft, puts away the gun, and pushes the Joker into a room with two tanks of water; the Clown Prince of Crime gets knocked into one, gets soaking wet, and tries going after Tim, but he slips and turns on the electrode machine. The scene immediately cuts to the outside of the room, ''[[ScreamDiscretionShot where his horrifying death scream is heard]]!'' Nothing says it's Nightmare Fuel [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids for kids]] like this one! And you thought the film developers were trying to make things any easier. It doesn't.]]
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* Anything involving Joker, particularly the following quote, which is positively ''chilling''...
--->'''Joker:''' [[spoiler:We couldn't adopt legally, but then we remembered you always had a few spare kids hanging around...''so we borrowed one...'']]
* When Terry heads back to the Batcave after being assaulted in the nightclub, he finds [[spoiler:the clock smashed, "HAHA"s spray-painted all over the cave (and it's worse in the uncut version of the film; the paint is ''blood red'')]] and worst of all, finding Bruce on the floor by the computer [[spoiler:apparently dead from Joker toxin.]]
* One could argue the uncut version is darker, but [[spoiler: Bonk's death in the re-edit version has him hit with Joker gas, dying of laughter as slowly as possible with his teammates looking on in fear.]]
** The uncut version's pretty bad. [[spoiler:Joker pulls out his fake BangFlagGun. [[HopeSpot Bonk breathes a sight of relief.]] Then he and the audience find out it's a spear gun and he's BlownAcrossTheRoom, dead. The other Jokerz stare at his corpse as the Joker demands allegiance.]]
* The scene where we see [[ColdBloodedTorture just what the Joker did to Robin]]. And the edited version of it looked even ''worse''. Just... that ''look'' on Batman's face as he sees the film.
* "You've lost, Batman. Robin is mine. The last sound you hear will be our laughter."
** The way he says it is what makes it truly creepy.
* [[spoiler: Joker's VillainousBreakdown near the end. Imagine, if you will, as Joker's usual demeanor is chipped away piece by piece as Terry openly mocks him to try and catch him off guard. First he gets snappy, which isn't so bad. Then he screams "YOU'RE NOT BATMAN!", and completely loses it, and manage to swing a table at Terry... A little surprising. Pins Terry down with the table, stands on top of it, yanks the mask off and proceeds to strangle Terry, producing one of his most insane laughs ever given, sounding more and more unhinged as he speaks? Downright scary, especially when you get a POV shot from Terry's eyes for a few seconds.]]
-->[[spoiler: Joker (Looking furious ''and'' euphoric) : C'mon, [=McGinnis=]... You miserable little punk! LAUGH! IIIIII CAAAAAAN'T HEEEEAAAAAR YOOOOU!]]
* The fact that despite voicing the character for nearly a decade by this point, Creator/MarkHamill actually felt uncomfortable voicing him in this one.
--->'''Joker:''' [[spoiler:We couldn't adopt legally, but then we remembered you always had a few spare kids hanging around...''so we borrowed one...'']]
* When Terry heads back to the Batcave after being assaulted in the nightclub, he finds [[spoiler:the clock smashed, "HAHA"s spray-painted all over the cave (and it's worse in the uncut version of the film; the paint is ''blood red'')]] and worst of all, finding Bruce on the floor by the computer [[spoiler:apparently dead from Joker toxin.]]
* One could argue the uncut version is darker, but [[spoiler: Bonk's death in the re-edit version has him hit with Joker gas, dying of laughter as slowly as possible with his teammates looking on in fear.]]
** The uncut version's pretty bad. [[spoiler:Joker pulls out his fake BangFlagGun. [[HopeSpot Bonk breathes a sight of relief.]] Then he and the audience find out it's a spear gun and he's BlownAcrossTheRoom, dead. The other Jokerz stare at his corpse as the Joker demands allegiance.]]
* The scene where we see [[ColdBloodedTorture just what the Joker did to Robin]]. And the edited version of it looked even ''worse''. Just... that ''look'' on Batman's face as he sees the film.
* "You've lost, Batman. Robin is mine. The last sound you hear will be our laughter."
** The way he says it is what makes it truly creepy.
* [[spoiler: Joker's VillainousBreakdown near the end. Imagine, if you will, as Joker's usual demeanor is chipped away piece by piece as Terry openly mocks him to try and catch him off guard. First he gets snappy, which isn't so bad. Then he screams "YOU'RE NOT BATMAN!", and completely loses it, and manage to swing a table at Terry... A little surprising. Pins Terry down with the table, stands on top of it, yanks the mask off and proceeds to strangle Terry, producing one of his most insane laughs ever given, sounding more and more unhinged as he speaks? Downright scary, especially when you get a POV shot from Terry's eyes for a few seconds.]]
-->[[spoiler: Joker (Looking furious ''and'' euphoric) : C'mon, [=McGinnis=]... You miserable little punk! LAUGH! IIIIII CAAAAAAN'T HEEEEAAAAAR YOOOOU!]]
* The fact that despite voicing the character for nearly a decade by this point, Creator/MarkHamill actually felt uncomfortable voicing him in this one.