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31st Jan '18 5:59:14 PM nombretomado
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* When MohiroKitoh said he would make a manga about [[MoodWhiplash a girl riding a mountain bike]], people blew the premise out of proportions, making jokes of how the bike will destroy the earth and such. Why? Because of his [[Anime/NaruTaru previous]] [[Manga/{{Bokurano}} works]].

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* When MohiroKitoh Creator/MohiroKitoh said he would make a manga about [[MoodWhiplash a girl riding a mountain bike]], people blew the premise out of proportions, making jokes of how the bike will destroy the earth and such. Why? Because of his [[Anime/NaruTaru previous]] [[Manga/{{Bokurano}} works]].
24th Jan '18 1:21:28 PM superkeijikun
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* ''Anime/SchoolDays'' is a unique deconstruction of the {{Harem}} genre of anime, but its lasting legacy can be summed up with two words: "[[MemeticMutation Nice Boat]]".[[note]]The series finale featured the brutal deaths of two main characters. The day before the final episode aired, a Japanese youth killed her father with an axe. To prevent controversy, many TV channels in Japan replaced the episode with a half hour of peaceful scenery, including images of a boat, set to classical music. Not helping matters is the fact that the last shot of the final episode is of one of the surviving love interests sailing away on a boat with the dismembered head of the protagonist.[[/note]]
24th Jan '18 1:03:28 PM superkeijikun
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* From hearing the so-called "Fans" talk, you'd think all ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'''s Shinji Ikari ever does is sit around {{wangst}}ing endlessly, only ever ceasing to do so to [[DudeShesLikeInAComa masturbate over comatose girls]]. Actually, he spends most of the series being a kind and helpful, [[DeterminedDefeatist if not very confident]] young man who risks his life to save the world in battles against reality defying {{Eldritch Abomination}}s despite the fact that he's understandably terrified of them. He is also quite efficient in battle, so much that Asuka is jealous of him. You gotta forgive him for ending up as a mental wreck after [[spoiler: his relationship with his father (which was never all that good to begin with) was utterly shattered, his best friend (Toji) was maimed, his mentor/father figure (Kaji) was murdered which caused his mother figure/guardian (Misato) to fall into depression, one of his love interests (Asuka) was brutally {{Mind Rape}}d, became suicidal, and was placed in a coma as a result, shortly while other love interest (Rei) pulled a HeroicSacrifice to save him, all that while Shinji was forced to watch helplessly by circumstances he had no control over. Rei was then replaced by a clone that looked the same, [[CameBackWrong but did not exactly act the same.]] [[HopeSpot Then, Shinji met a nice boy (Kaworu) that thought he was really awesome and wanted to be his friend]] ([[HomoeroticSubtext and possibly more...]]) -- turns out he is actually the MonsterOfTheWeek and Shinji has to kill the only person who ever said "I love you" to his face.]] Did we mention that he still saves the world after this? [[spoiler:After ending it, that is.]]

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* From hearing the so-called "Fans" talk, you'd think all ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'''s Shinji Ikari ever does is sit around {{wangst}}ing endlessly, only ever ceasing to do so to [[DudeShesLikeInAComa masturbate over comatose girls]]. Actually, he spends most of the series being a kind and helpful, [[DeterminedDefeatist if not very confident]] young man who risks his life to save the world in battles against reality defying {{Eldritch Abomination}}s despite the fact that he's understandably terrified of them. He is also quite efficient in battle, so much that Asuka is jealous of him. You gotta forgive him for ending up as a mental wreck after [[spoiler: his relationship with his father (which was never all that good to begin with) was utterly shattered, his best friend (Toji) was maimed, maimed (killed in the manga adaptation), his mentor/father figure (Kaji) was murdered which caused his mother figure/guardian (Misato) to fall into depression, one of his love interests (Asuka) was brutally {{Mind Rape}}d, became suicidal, and was placed in a coma as a result, shortly while other love interest (Rei) pulled a HeroicSacrifice to save him, all that while Shinji was forced to watch helplessly by circumstances he had no control over. Rei was then replaced by a clone that looked the same, [[CameBackWrong but did not exactly act the same.]] [[HopeSpot Then, Shinji met a nice boy (Kaworu) that thought he was really awesome and wanted to be his friend]] ([[HomoeroticSubtext and possibly more...]]) -- turns out he is actually the MonsterOfTheWeek and Shinji has to kill the only person who ever said "I love you" to his face.]] Did we mention that he still saves the world after this? [[spoiler:After ending it, that is.]]
24th Jan '18 12:57:20 PM superkeijikun
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** Yamcha is often noted for dying to the Saibaman enemy's SuicideAttack, but fans often neglect to note that he was canonly taken offguard and in the manga had no time to react at all. Fans also tend to ignore that as stated in the series, Yamcha also went ahead in the fight as a favor for Krillin who had already died once and thus couldn't be revived by the Dragon Balls, instead believing Yamcha was doing it for the glory or selfish reasons (see RonTheDeathEater).

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** Yamcha is often noted for dying to the Saibaman enemy's SuicideAttack, but fans often neglect to note that he was canonly taken offguard and in the manga had no time to react at all. Fans also tend to ignore that as stated in the series, Yamcha also went ahead in the fight as a favor for Krillin who had already died once and thus couldn't be revived by the Dragon Balls, instead believing Yamcha was doing it for the glory or selfish reasons (see RonTheDeathEater). [[AscendedMeme This gets brought up a lot]] in ''VideoGame/DragonballFighterz'' where various characters poke fun at Yamcha for having been killed by a Saibaman. However, Yamcha can also get payback against Nappa in a Dramatic Finish EasterEgg where he [[IronicDeath blasts a Saiabaman back at Nappa]].
11th Dec '17 6:07:59 PM nombretomado
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** In the DiC dub, Rei went from a {{Tsundere}} who cares deeply for Usagi despite constantly needling her in the first season to a bullying CommanderContrarian LeaderWannabe. This, plus her past romance with Mamoru/Darien, meant she was ripe for demonization by fans; some fanfics even twisted her into a vengeful harpy who would have Usagi ''killed'' just to get back into Mamoru's pants and be leader of the Senshi.

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** In the DiC [=DiC=] dub, Rei went from a {{Tsundere}} who cares deeply for Usagi despite constantly needling her in the first season to a bullying CommanderContrarian LeaderWannabe. This, plus her past romance with Mamoru/Darien, meant she was ripe for demonization by fans; some fanfics even twisted her into a vengeful harpy who would have Usagi ''killed'' just to get back into Mamoru's pants and be leader of the Senshi.
9th Dec '17 9:49:32 AM Triscon42
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%%*** To be fair, Kira ''was'' half-assing it through most of ''[[MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Destiny]]''. He'd been suffering from PTSD problems since the start of the show, exacerbating his ReluctantWarrior tendencies to the point he was stuck in a rut. He uesd the same damn shoot/dash/slash tactic every battle, always aimed to disable (barring [[ShootTheDog one extreme circumstance]])
4th Dec '17 4:32:09 PM DreamerCynist2
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* ''Anime/AfterWarGundamX'''s Olba Frost has a great deal of hatedom due to ''one'' episode where he became furious at the heroes for hurting his brother. Never mind his big brother got injured [[TakingTheBullet taking an attack for him]]. Never mind [[DarkAndTroubledPast they've gone through so much hell]] that they only have each other for emotional support. Never mind for the ''rest of the series'' he's a perfectly calm and composed person. Never mind [[WellDoneSonGuy he wants to redeem himself in the eyes of his brother]] and stand on his own two feet. Nope, he's a sniveling male {{Yandere}}, through and through. Even Olba's own [[Creator/NozomuSasaki voice actor]] dislikes the guy because of all this.
** Which is a shame, as there are other, far more legitimate reasons to dislike him and Shagia.

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* ''Anime/AfterWarGundamX'''s Olba Frost has a great deal of hatedom due to ''one'' episode where he became furious at the heroes for hurting his brother. Never mind his big brother got injured [[TakingTheBullet taking an attack for him]]. Never mind [[DarkAndTroubledPast they've gone through so much hell]] that they only have each other for emotional support. Never mind for the ''rest of the series'' he's a perfectly calm and composed person. Never mind [[WellDoneSonGuy he wants to redeem himself in the eyes of his brother]] and stand on his own two feet. Nope, he's a sniveling male {{Yandere}}, through and through. Even Olba's own [[Creator/NozomuSasaki voice actor]] dislikes the guy because of all this.
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this. Which is a shame, as there are other, far more legitimate reasons to dislike him and Shagia.
26th Nov '17 5:18:13 PM nombretomado
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** Japan himself suffers from this. Yes, he stabbed his doting brother China InTheBack for no clear reason. Yes, it was a shocking KickTheDog moment, especially in a series that normally depicts historical events humorously, so it's understandable that it really stands out to many fans and makes them wonder about Japan's true character. And yes, many of ImperialJapan's war crimes in real life were no laughing matter. But that doesn't mean that the character Japan ''has'' to be a sociopath who ruthlessly manipulated, abused, and raped his East Asian siblings in cold blood during his imperial years, especially considering that he's shown to be on relatively civil terms with them in the post-WWII strips. And [[MustMakeAmends some bad acts can be undone]], you know...

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** Japan himself suffers from this. Yes, he stabbed his doting brother China InTheBack for no clear reason. Yes, it was a shocking KickTheDog moment, especially in a series that normally depicts historical events humorously, so it's understandable that it really stands out to many fans and makes them wonder about Japan's true character. And yes, many of ImperialJapan's UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan's war crimes in real life were no laughing matter. But that doesn't mean that the character Japan ''has'' to be a sociopath who ruthlessly manipulated, abused, and raped his East Asian siblings in cold blood during his imperial years, especially considering that he's shown to be on relatively civil terms with them in the post-WWII strips. And [[MustMakeAmends some bad acts can be undone]], you know...
20th Oct '17 10:54:09 PM R.G.
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* No matter what character development they obtain, particularly after the TimeSkip, there are certain people among the ''Manga/OnePiece'' fanbase who see Nami as a pirate-hating complainer who bitches whenever she gets a bounty and Usopp as an utter coward.
19th Oct '17 11:02:22 PM Kamiguy123
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* [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Nena Trinity]] crossed the MoralEventHorizon of the wedding shooting. Then afterwards, things got rather worse for her and she's forced to lay low, be less psychotic, helping Wang Liu Mei and when she mistreats her, Nena starts with leaking information that Liu Mei withheld to the Celestial Being, saving many lives, and when Liu Mei got even worse, Nena snapped again and killed her. While she's definitely a nutcase and generally not caring about other people's life, she's able to do both good and evil, and [[FridgeHorror she's got a really tragic existence too]] which, while not absolving her of ANY crime, does mean she is perfectly able to be pitied. Fans only remembered that one wedding incident and think that's all Nena ever did, thereby she's an unforgivable evil little bitch.

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* [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Nena Trinity]] crossed the MoralEventHorizon of the wedding shooting. Then afterwards, things got rather worse for her and she's forced to lay low, be less psychotic, helping Wang Liu Mei and when she mistreats her, Nena starts with leaking information that Liu Mei withheld to the Celestial Being, saving many lives, and when Liu Mei got even worse, Nena snapped again and killed her. While she's definitely a nutcase and generally not caring about other people's life, she's able to do both good and evil, and [[FridgeHorror she's got a really tragic existence too]] which, while not absolving her of ANY crime, does mean she is perfectly able to be pitied. Fans only ''only'' remembered that one wedding incident and think that's all ''all'' Nena ever did, thereby she's an unforgivable evil little bitch.
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