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* The scene with[[spoiler: the Malkuth and Kimlascan forces going to battle]] may count, considering that they're charging fiercely into battle armed with ''tubas''. And the OffModel soldiers. My ''god'', the OffModel soldiers!



* [[spoiler:Muzet's]] freak out moments are really over the top at times and can be really funny.

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* [[spoiler:Muzet's]] freak out moments are really over the top at times and can be really funny. They are meant to show her struggling with her sanity, but the scenes make it hard to not look at as comical due to the framing.



* The way [[spoiler:Mayvin]]'s death is handled is unintentionally funny due to how abruptly he dies. Towards the end of the fight, Sorey is about to shoot him with Siegfried in a specially made battle cutscene, when it just cuts to a normal cutscene of [[spoiler:Mayvin]] just falling over. The timing is so quick and off-putting that it's too hard to take seriously, and without a natural segue into it, it almost looks like he just gave up and died.

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* The way [[spoiler:Mayvin]]'s death is handled is unintentionally funny due to how abruptly he dies. Towards the end of the fight, Sorey is about to shoot him with Siegfried in a specially made flashy battle cutscene, when it just cuts to a normal cutscene of [[spoiler:Mayvin]] just falling over. The timing is so quick and off-putting that it's too hard to take seriously, and without a natural segue into it, it almost looks like he just gave up and died.

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--->''Colette learned Judgment''

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--->"Amateurs."

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--->"Amateurs.-->"Amateurs."



* In the final battle of Tales of Symphonia, the boss will teleport next to you and then yell "get away from me!" Geez, if you don't want me near you, why'd you teleport next to me?
* Tales of Symphonia has a scene where there are a bunch of guards holding their spears up who are then ordered not to attack. In the English language version, the order is, "lower your weapons!" Lowering a weapon is actually an *aggressive** stance when the weapon in question is a spear.
* Right after you defeat the monster in Iselia at the beginning of Symphonia, you find out that [[spoiler: said monster [[BodyHorror used to be Marble]]]]. It's just as disturbing as it sounds, but the effect is quickly lost because of how Genis chooses to handle the situation: He says [[spoiler:[[SayMyName Marble's name]]]] twice, [[SkywardScream looks toward the sky]] [[MilkingtheGiantCow and spreads his arms out]], then [[BigNo screams "NOOOO!"]] from his place on the ground. All while the camera dramatically zooms out from him. All these details combined made the scene come across as so cliched that it's hard not to laugh at him.
* The overseas version of the game removed the voices from the skits, but failed to alter the lip flaps just in case. As a result, on one skit which was just fine in the Japanese version, for the overseas version you instead get the infamous moment where a despondent Sheena takes a strangely long time and a large amount of syllables to say "I..." (She was saying "Watashi..." a few times in the JP version with voices on and matching lip flaps. no voices and unaltered lip flaps result in her sounding rather slow.)

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* In the final battle of Tales ''Tales of Symphonia, Symphonia'', the boss will teleport next to you and then yell "get away from me!" Geez, if you don't want me near you, why'd you teleport next to me?
* Tales ''Tales of Symphonia Symphonia'' has a scene where there are a bunch of guards holding their spears up who are then ordered not to attack. In the English language version, the order is, "lower your weapons!" Lowering a weapon is actually an *aggressive** ''aggressive'' stance when the weapon in question is a spear.
* Right after you defeat the monster in Iselia at the beginning of Symphonia, ''Symphonia'', you find out that [[spoiler: said monster [[BodyHorror used to be Marble]]]]. It's just as disturbing as it sounds, but the effect is quickly lost because of how Genis chooses to handle the situation: He says [[spoiler:[[SayMyName Marble's name]]]] twice, [[SkywardScream looks toward the sky]] [[MilkingtheGiantCow [[MilkingTheGiantCow and spreads his arms out]], then [[BigNo screams "NOOOO!"]] from his place on the ground. All while the camera dramatically zooms out from him. All these details combined made the scene come across as so cliched that it's hard not to laugh at him.
* The overseas version of the game removed the voices from the skits, but failed to alter the lip flaps just in case. As a result, on one skit which was just fine in the Japanese version, for the overseas version you instead get the infamous moment where a despondent Sheena takes a strangely long time and a large amount of syllables to say "I..." (She was saying "Watashi..." a few times in the JP version with voices on and matching lip flaps. no No voices and unaltered lip flaps result in her sounding rather slow.)



* One particular GoodBadBug introduced in either the [=PS2=] version or the Chronicles version is Sheena's character model remaining in its dirty state after recruiting her in Luin. Its easily fixed but not doing so leads to otherwise serious moments becoming quite silly when Sheena looks like she hasn't had a bath in forever.

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* One particular GoodBadBug introduced in either the [=PS2=] version or the Chronicles ''Chronicles'' version is Sheena's character model remaining in its dirty state after recruiting her in Luin. Its It's easily fixed but not doing so leads to otherwise serious moments becoming quite silly when Sheena looks like she hasn't had a bath in forever.



--> Mithos: You... son of [[spoiler: Kratos!]]
* "Goodbye... (8 seconds later) [[spoiler: Mithos.]]" It's even funnier in the Chronicles version if the subtitles are turned on.
* Early in the game, when trying to get the summons, one of them mentions Mithos. The characters all question if it was the same Mithos from the stories they've heard regarding the Church of Martel, only for Raine to randomly claim that Mithos is a common boys name. Not only do you not encounter any characters named Mithos, but the one character who is named Mithos is so obviously the same Mithos being talked about makes the comment silly, as if the game was trying to deflect a CaptainObviousReveal.
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--> Mithos: '''Mithos:''' You... son of [[spoiler: Kratos!]]
* "Goodbye... (8 seconds later) [[spoiler: Mithos.]]" It's even funnier in the Chronicles ''Chronicles'' version if the subtitles are turned on.
* Early in the game, when trying to get the summons, one of them mentions Mithos. The characters all question if it was the same Mithos from the stories they've heard regarding the Church of Martel, only for Raine to randomly claim that Mithos is a common boys boys' name. Not only do you not encounter any characters named Mithos, but the one character who is named Mithos is so obviously the same Mithos being talked about makes the comment silly, as if the game was trying to deflect a CaptainObviousReveal.
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* VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss has a very dramatic and mostly well voice-acted cutscene near the end. And then, at the very end...
---> '''[[spoiler:Asch]]:''' ''(in a deadly calm voice)'' Well said. I will make those words your last, replicaaaaaaaaAAAAAA''AAAAAAAA!''

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* VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' has a very dramatic and mostly well voice-acted cutscene near the end. And then, at the very end...
---> --> '''[[spoiler:Asch]]:''' ''(in ''[in a deadly calm voice)'' voice]'' Well said. I will make those words your last, replicaaaaaaaaAAAAAA''AAAAAAAA!''



* Similar to the "get away from me!" example from Symphonia, one of Jade's in-battle quotes is "looks like we're still okay!" It tends to trigger when Jade survives a strong attack with a shred of health. Problem is, he'll say it even if the attack ''kills everyone else on the field.'' Looks like ''you're'' still okay, Colonel, but what about everyone else? The best part of this is that it's [[NarmCharm actually perfectly in character.]]

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* Similar to the "get away from me!" example from Symphonia, ''Symphonia'', one of Jade's in-battle quotes is "looks like we're still okay!" It tends to trigger when Jade survives a strong attack with a shred of health. Problem is, he'll say it even if the attack ''kills everyone else on the field.'' Looks like ''you're'' still okay, Colonel, but what about everyone else? The best part of this is that it's [[NarmCharm actually perfectly in character.]]






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* The game's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRq4zPIg78 comical theme]] is so ridiculous (sounding like circus music) it somehow kills the mood of scenes meant to be funny by making them ''less'' funny, since it's like the song is [[ShowDontTell screaming at the player that's what's happening should be funny]]. (And in many cases, the player may not find the moment as funny as the game wants them to) It typically starts playing the moment anything remotely non-serious happens, even in the middle of formerly serious scenes.

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* The game's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRq4zPIg78 comical theme]] is so ridiculous (sounding like circus music) it somehow kills the mood of scenes meant to be funny by making them ''less'' funny, since it's like the song is [[ShowDontTell screaming at the player that's that what's happening should be funny]]. (And in many cases, the player may not find the moment as funny as the game wants them to) to.) It typically starts playing the moment anything remotely non-serious happens, even in the middle of formerly serious scenes.






* The event to restore Lastonbell's Lord of the Land ends with a little girl and her dog pitifully dying after you manage to purify them. It was supposed to be a very sad scene, and is scripted in a very dramatic way, but for some reason the song chosen to play was [[https://youtu.be/LSelxAjeymQ The Exciting First Journey]]. It's pretty jarring to hear a whimsical song playing during arguably ''the darkest'' moment in game.

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* The event to restore Lastonbell's Lord of the Land ends with a little girl and her dog pitifully dying after you manage to purify them. It was supposed to be a very sad scene, and is scripted in a very dramatic way, but for some reason the song chosen to play was [[https://youtu."[[https://youtu.be/LSelxAjeymQ The Exciting First Journey]].Journey]]". It's pretty jarring to hear a whimsical song playing during arguably ''the darkest'' moment in game.
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* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'', Yuri Lowell has a really awesome animation in which he shucks his sword from his scabbard and catches the sword in midair. The problem is that it sends the scabbard ''flying offscreen''. It's especially incongruous in long shots or outdoors, when it flies absolutely ridiculous distances. It's hilarious to imagine him digging through the sand to unearth his scabbard after the fights are over.

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* In ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia'', Yuri Lowell has a really awesome animation in which he shucks his sword from his scabbard and catches the sword in midair. The problem is that it sends the scabbard ''flying offscreen''. It's especially incongruous in long shots or outdoors, when it flies absolutely ridiculous distances. It's hilarious to imagine him digging through the sand to unearth his scabbard after the fights are over.
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* The game's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRq4zPIg78 comical theme]] is so ridiculous (sounding like circus music) it somehow kills the mood of scenes meant to be funny by making them ''less'' funny, since it's like the song is [[ShowDontTell screaming at the player that's what's happening should be funny]]. (And in many cases, the player may not find the moment as funny as the game wants them to) It typically starts playing the moment anything remotely non-serious happens, even in the middle of formerly serious scenes.

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** Not helping is the fact that, as she dodges in front of the beam, it looks like she explodes like a rather spectacular firework.
** Watch ANY of the characters walking animations. Just... just watch. Moses, Shirley and Norma are the biggest offenders.
** The skits in Legendia. Whenever someone walks or runs, the picture of the character is simply bobbed up and down, like a paper cutout stuck to a popsicle stick.
** [[DullSurprise Will and Chloe's English voices]]. This is '''especially''' bad in the case of Chloe, as she's an emotional character and many of her scenes are emotional in nature, but it's simply ruined by the voice actress' hilariously flat delivery (a drinking game could be made out of all the times she says "Coolidge..." out of concern for Senel yet sounds completely bored.) Its just as bad for Will, [[Creator/CamClarke who's VA did a perfectly good job as Kratos in Symphonia.]]
** Quite a few of the games have this problem ([[VideoGame/TalesOfGraces wind eleth]] takes some time to get your head around), but special mention goes to ''Tales of Legendia'', where these terms have a tendency to ''rhyme'', because the in-game language, Relares, is ideographic. Which means some words will share morphems. So, we get to remember Ferines, Orerines, Merines, etc. Rather [[http://tales.namco.com/legendia/featured.php?p=4 fun]], if one has the time for it.



* The scene in Yulia City where Asch reveals that [[spoiler: Luke is his replica]] is pretty heartbreakingly dramatic in the game. But in the animated version, for some reason, poor Creator/ChihiroSuzuki was forced to ''scream like a banshee'' the whole way through the reveal and the upcoming CurbstompBattle, so that Luke sounds like he's legitimately snapped and gone hilariously stark raving. Too bad the anime was never dubbed - hearing Creator/YuriLowenthal yowl for a good minute and a half like that would have been ''[[NarmCharm priceless]]''.
** Even then in the game if you manage to [[spoiler:defeat Asch]] you get a scene where he is {{Wangst}}ing over the fact he lost to [[spoiler:his replica]] and Luke is still in a HeroicBSOD afterwards.



* Much like the Symphonia example, dramatic moments can be shot to hell depending on what costumes the gang are wearing. Dramatic moment where Luke's being chewed out for refusing to accept responsibility for the fall of Akzeriuth, just before he cuts his hair? Easily ruined by putting him in a short haired costume with no shirt on, put Jade in his bathrobe outfit and Natalia in her breast-tastic Star of Malkuth outfit and enjoy the narm!
** One that can potentially happen accidentally: on a NewGamePlus, you can get costume titles where [[BunnyEarsLawyer Emperor Peony]] decided to dress the gang up as Franchise/PowerRangers [[{{Expy}} expies]]. This includes one for your GuestStarPartyMember, even though they're not with you at the time. Thing is, at the time you get those titles the point when they're in the party for plot reasons is long past, so the only way you can see that costume in combat is during a specific sidequest, after which they leave again. If you forget to change their title back, you'll be stuck with them dressed as "Abyss Silver" for the rest of the game. Needless to say, [[spoiler:Asch]] being dressed as a Franchise/SuperSentai kinda ruins a few scenes. [[spoiler: Sadly, he won't be sporting the costume when you have the actual battle with him at the end of the game]].
** The "Costume with a short hair" before Luke's DramaticHaircut also itself can be quite funny, and the game ''even voices this line''. In the beginning, Guy asks Luke what's up with his hair and Luke tells him it's a wig. Funny bit of DevelopersForesight there. However, when Luke cuts his hair off, Tear then asks Luke "Why did you take your wig off to cut your hair?" and it becomes hilarious.



* Said OneWingedAngel form gets even sillier later on, when it's said to be [[SanitySlippage slowly sapping their sanity]]. The scene that proves they're too far gone... features the character responding to the Jewel of Lorelei by ''flying all over the screen like a deflating balloon'' while repeating "Score" over and over.
* For some unholy reason, [[spoiler: when you receive Ion's Fonstone from Anise following his death]] the damn noise that plays when you receive an item will still trigger, wrecking the scene since it'll be louder than anything else in the scene. Then there's the hilarious, MundaneMadeAwesome fanfare that plays when you get a recipe, which you can trigger at inopportune moments if you neglect to get the recipe in question at a non-serious time.
* So you're think going to go defeat the BigBad at the Absorption Gate, the brand new World Map music has you pumped and ready to go and it's playing even before you leave Keterberg, and you enter the world map and walk down to the port to board your badass flying ship... and then you enter the port and the cheerful Keterburg theme plays.
* Sync's [[Creator/IkueOtani Japanese]] voice is almost impossible to take seriously. Otani does a good job as the far more serene and friendly Ion but as Sync she uses an angry little kid voice that, when in battle, makes Sync sound too much like an angry [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu]].



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* ''Tales of the Tempest'' can be considered a long endless streak of {{Narm}}. For an example, the game's introduction has an evil villain killing Rubia's father while [[KidHero Caius]] is secretly watching, inside of a church. Then Rubia's mother shows up in front of Caius; the kid warns her that the villain just killed her husband. She then decides to enter the church ''for no reason'' and gets killed after two lines of dialogue (yes, ''exactly'' two lines of dialogue). Not easy to feel sorry for her...
** Also, any scene with people talking about how ruthless and scary Caius' wereman form is sort of falls flat. [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/aselia/images/e/e0/Artwork_tales_of_tempest_20060427.jpg Because Caius' wolf form is actually pretty cute]].
** Caius's father's death is horribly anticlimactic. It's supposed to be a horrible dramatic event, but instead his killer shows up out of nowhere then casts one measly spell, turning him into the [[TakenForGranite weirdest posed stone figure ever]]. It just ends up being silly.
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* ''Tales of the Tempest'' can be considered a long endless streak of {{Narm}}. For an example, the game's introduction has an evil villain killing Rubia's father while [[KidHero Caius]] is secretly watching, inside of a church. Then Rubia's mother shows up in front of Caius; the kid warns her that the villain just killed her husband. She then decides to enter the church ''for no reason'' and gets killed after two lines of dialogue (yes, ''exactly'' two lines of dialogue). Not easy to feel sorry for her...
** Also, any scene with people talking about how ruthless and scary Caius' wereman form is sort of falls flat. [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/aselia/images/e/e0/Artwork_tales_of_tempest_20060427.jpg Because Caius' wolf form is actually pretty cute]].
** Caius's father's death is horribly anticlimactic. It's supposed to be a horrible dramatic event, but instead his killer shows up out of nowhere then casts one measly spell, turning him into the [[TakenForGranite weirdest posed stone figure ever]]. It just ends up being silly.
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** It's also funny when he does it with axes... which do ''not'' have scabbards.
* A title that was meant to comment on Judith's perceptiveness and wisdom gets translated as "Trophy Wife."
* Two out of the four cameo bosses have some...questionable English voice work. [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Dhaos]] and [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Kratos]] sound just fine (considering [[Creator/PatrickSeitz they're]] [[Creator/CamClarke both]] reprising their roles from prior material) but [[VideoGame/TalesOfEternia Shizel]] sounds like her VA was trying too hard to sound raging evil and instead more like a Rita Repulsa wannabe and [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2 Barbatos]]' English VA has an odd slur to his voice that makes some of his lines sound plain silly (especially when he shouts "I'll crush your bonesh!"
* Like the other Tales games, the player can invoke this by putting silly costumes and visible accessories on characters, destroying the seriousness of some scenes.
* Much like ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'', the FinalBoss will actually speak directly to the character the player is controlling, and they will speak back. Unfortunately, if the player is playing as Repede, it becomes unintentionally funny because they are speaking to a ''dog''.
** At the same time, Raven starts talking about womanizing, making it come off as a massive case of SkewedPriorities. He [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness breaks character in the second phase though]].
* The release of the Definitive Edition has been well received, but some {{Narm}} occurs when the newly voiced content is inserted into already existing cutscenes because in most cases, with some of them having slightly different pitches or even voice actors. For example, when going to talk to Don Whitehorse at the Leviathan's Claw manor, he has his original dialogue where he talks to the party. However, in the Definitive Edition his new dialogue was done by someone else when he talks to the newly added character Patty, meaning mid way through the cutscene he abruptly switches voices before switching back to his normal one when he resumes talking to the rest of the group. It can be jarring since it is very obvious when this happens.
* Most characters have a generic battle grunt noise they make when taking a heavy attack. Raven though yells "Hey! That hurt!" instead. It falls into this trope when ever he gets hit by a Mystic Arte, because he says it several times back to back, making it unintentionally funny to hear him being hit by someone like the BigBad, and all he yells is "Hey! That hurt-Hey! That hurt-" so on and so on.

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** It's also funny when he does it with axes... which do ''not'' have scabbards.
* A title that was meant to comment on Judith's perceptiveness and wisdom gets translated as "Trophy Wife."
* Two out of the four cameo bosses have some...questionable English voice work. [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Dhaos]] and [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Kratos]] sound just fine (considering [[Creator/PatrickSeitz they're]] [[Creator/CamClarke both]] reprising their roles from prior material) but [[VideoGame/TalesOfEternia Shizel]] sounds like her VA was trying too hard to sound raging evil and instead more like a Rita Repulsa wannabe and [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2 Barbatos]]' English VA has an odd slur to his voice that makes some of his lines sound plain silly (especially when he shouts "I'll crush your bonesh!"
* Like the other Tales games, the player can invoke this by putting silly costumes and visible accessories on characters, destroying the seriousness of some scenes.
* Much like ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'', the FinalBoss will actually speak directly to the character the player is controlling, and they will speak back. Unfortunately, if the player is playing as Repede, it becomes unintentionally funny because they are speaking to a ''dog''. \n** At the same time, Raven starts talking about womanizing, making it come off as a massive case of SkewedPriorities. He [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness breaks character in the second phase though]]. \n* The release of the Definitive Edition has been well received, but some {{Narm}} occurs when the newly voiced content is inserted into already existing cutscenes because in most cases, with some of them having slightly different pitches or even voice actors. For example, when going to talk to Don Whitehorse at the Leviathan's Claw manor, he has his original dialogue where he talks to the party. However, in the Definitive Edition his new dialogue was done by someone else when he talks to the newly added character Patty, meaning mid way through the cutscene he abruptly switches voices before switching back to his normal one when he resumes talking to the rest of the group. It can be jarring since it is very obvious when this happens.\n* Most characters have a generic battle grunt noise they make when taking a heavy attack. Raven though yells "Hey! That hurt!" instead. It falls into this trope when ever he gets hit by a Mystic Arte, because he says it several times back to back, making it unintentionally funny to hear him being hit by someone like the BigBad, and all he yells is "Hey! That hurt-Hey! That hurt-" so on and so on.



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* [[spoiler: Richard's]] [[MemeticMutation famous]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-YSf6i7PE "Tomodachi ''NANDA''!? TOMODACHIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!! HUAAAARGH"]] in either version of the game is considered this.
** In case you were wondering, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTtm5fXmPIA the English version]] is just as if not more full of narm than either of the Japanese versions.
*** This is, of course, to say nothing of the inherent hilarity that comes with [[spoiler: Richard's]] incredibly tiny anime pupils and absurd facial expressions whenever the game tries to convey his anger. Lack of storytelling tact at its finest.
* The only purpose of the Attachments you can find throughout the game is to turn scenes into this.
** Step 1: Get the cardboard box attachment from the Playstation Store. Step 2: Equip it on [[spoiler: Richard]]. Step 3: Watch as any drama involving this character gets absolutely DESTROYED!!!
* After one of his dramatic boss battles, [[spoiler: Richard,]] who has spent the whole encounter [[PowerIncontinence leaking streams of eleth]] and [[NightmareFuel screaming for help]] in his VoiceOfTheLegion, collapses. Sophie crawls up to him and says [[spoiler: "Richard...let's make a friendship pact!"]] At which point [[spoiler: Richard]] abruptly pulls himself together, points his sword at Sophie's head, and says "die!", and she's catapaulted across the arena. [[TooDumbToLive I'm sorry Sophie, but you kind of deserved that one.]]
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* [[spoiler: Richard's]] [[MemeticMutation famous]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM-YSf6i7PE "Tomodachi ''NANDA''!? TOMODACHIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!! HUAAAARGH"]] in either version of the game is considered this.
** In case you were wondering, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTtm5fXmPIA the English version]] is just as if not more full of narm than either of the Japanese versions.
*** This is, of course, to say nothing of the inherent hilarity that comes with [[spoiler: Richard's]] incredibly tiny anime pupils and absurd facial expressions whenever the game tries to convey his anger. Lack of storytelling tact at its finest.
* The only purpose of the Attachments you can find throughout the game is to turn scenes into this.
** Step 1: Get the cardboard box attachment from the Playstation Store. Step 2: Equip it on [[spoiler: Richard]]. Step 3: Watch as any drama involving this character gets absolutely DESTROYED!!!
* After one of his dramatic boss battles, [[spoiler: Richard,]] who has spent the whole encounter [[PowerIncontinence leaking streams of eleth]] and [[NightmareFuel screaming for help]] in his VoiceOfTheLegion, collapses. Sophie crawls up to him and says [[spoiler: "Richard...let's make a friendship pact!"]] At which point [[spoiler: Richard]] abruptly pulls himself together, points his sword at Sophie's head, and says "die!", and she's catapaulted across the arena. [[TooDumbToLive I'm sorry Sophie, but you kind of deserved that one.]]
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* Something about Jude's line "I always wanted to live up to Professor Haus's expectations...but now...he's ''dead''" makes this troper laugh every time. It's probably Creator/SamRiegel and his completely sincere delivery.
** Actually Creator/SamRiegel was on sparkling Narm form for a while. In one early scene featuring Agria, she threatens his life and his response is "But...I don't want to die." Only he doesn't say it desperately or with terror. It sounds more like dying would be slightly irritating and a little inconvenient.
* Also everything about Nachtigal is Narm plus ham. Just listen to the way he casts AIR PRESSURRRRRRRE
* Just like some of the above examples (especially the ones from Symphonia and Abyss) this game has a few ''amazingly'' intense moments that are disrupted by a few poor decisions. The scene in which [[spoiler: Alvin shoots Leia and fights Jude in the orchard after Milla dies]] is absolutely heartbreaking. It's perfect until Jude says they have to learn to think for themselves and Alvin's response is a very angry "HOW DO WE DO THAT?" and it just comes across as "THINKING IS HARD."
** And the same scene is even worse if [[spoiler: Alvin wins the duel,]] because at one point he gets frustrated and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA9Ubzgvwlc&t=4m48s high-kicks Jude in the jaw with the fury and flexibility of an angry Rockette.]]
* Attachments return once again. Kill the mood of dramatic cutscenes by having your party wear giant Ba'ul plushies, "Emo" glasses or a drippy nose! You can also make all the scenes where the party wonders whether or not to trust [[spoiler: Alvin]] by giving said character [[DevilInPlainSight devil horns, wings and a tail.]]



* Jude's SayMyName towards Mila at Fort Gandala. It's particularly jarring because Jude is usually one of the better voice-acted characters.
* Jude's SayMyName towards Alvin right before [[spoiler: their duel]] might come across as silly to English players thanks to a certain famous series about [[Franchise/AlvinAndtheChipmunks singing chipmunks]] and the yelling of Alvin's name.
* The "chess game" between Wingul and Rowen can be narmy because it's SeriousBusiness for them. The music itself is really over the top with the characters acting as if they were really fighting.



* The JigglePhysics in general, especially since they seem to have been turned up for [[TheTease Muzét]] and [[{{Tsundere}} Alternate Milla]]. Just try to keep a straight face during the penultimate scenes against the Final Boss, when the camera shows Muzét approaching and stop, leaving her breasts to jiggle at the worst possible moment. [[MaleGaze Sure, they are lovely]], but it's difficult to take potential annihilation of your party seriously at that point.
* The attachments and costumes from Xillia 1 can be carried over to Xillia 2 and applied in the exact same way. There's even more attachments now so any sad or serious moment can be screwed up just because you can't see Ludger's face thanks to him wearing a comically oversized [[VideoGame/TalesofHearts Beryl Benito]] witch-painter hat or [[VideoGame/TalesOfEternia Rassius Luine]]'s feathery thing angled over his face or he has a giant [[VideoGame/TalesOfEternia Quickie]] on his head, or the fact that everyone will have a [[VideoGame/TalesOfGraces Sophie doll]] hanging off of their arm that'll probably be big enough to take up 25% of the camera. Either that or a [[VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia Yuri Lowell]] doll sitting on their shoulder.
* And eventually, you can get transformation items which turn characters into various other [=NPCs=] as well as the game's cameo bosses. Unlike Graces f and Destiny DC's transformation items, these are purely cosmetic...but they bring with them their own form of narm in that they persist outside of battle and in NewGamePlus as well. What does this mean? Why, you can turn Ludger into [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Rutee Katrea]] and have items that Ludger was holding now float awkwardly above Rutee's own hands because she's far shorter and thinner than Ludger was. Then turn Gaius into [[TokenMiniMoe Elle]]! The camera never once accounts for sudden height change (which can also lead to the camera becoming very interested in the top of the aforementioned Rutee-Ludger's head) and can barely focus on Gaius-Elle's face and all thought-provoking speeches Gaius has to give now sound like Elle just [[ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs had a snort.]] And on the other end of the spectrum, turn Elize into [[MsFanservice Presa]] and the camera becomes a flat out ''pervert'' because half of the time when it should be focusing on Elize's face, because of the aforementioned height issue, [[MaleGaze it leers at Presa's breasts instead.]]
* When the FinalBoss transforms, using his Chromatus ability, the cutscene looks oddly like a MagicalGirl transformation. It needs to be [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rodD1WfXDw seen]] to be believed. Try to keep a straight face - and fail miserably.



* In the Ladylake Aqueducts dungeon, there is a cutscene where Mikleo wishes to become a Sub Lord so he can fight the Hellions and not be TheLoad, but Sorey urges him to reconsider due to the costs associated with this, since it means that Mikleo will have to reside within Sorey's body and dedicate his life to fighting the Hellions, abandoning any other dreams. Mikleo then says that as a Seraph, it's natural for him to wish to eliminate the Hellions. The Narm is in Sorey's reply: "Do frogs try to eliminate snakes?". They definitely could have worded things better.



* In the manga, the implication that [[spoiler:Heldalf is Sorey's father]] comes off as a desperate attempt to connect two characters that have absolutely nothing in common and the twist has no impact on the plot.



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Given the [[DarkerAndEdgier nature of the game,]] the developers tried to give it as little Narm as possible, but in some moments it was inevitable:

* Much like in other VideoGame/TalesSeries games, the player has the ability to invoke this. Velvet and Magilou's outfits [[RummageSaleReject already look ridiculous]] enough, but you can make it even more silly by, say, [[http://blog.talesofgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Customization-2-1140x580.png giving Velvet a red sombrero and sunglasses]] or making the party wear swimsuits into battle. Or watch every dramatic moment be made completely absurd by dressing the party in [[http://www.gamersheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Tales-Of-Berseria-Fashion-Guide-900x506.jpg giant Normin mascot costumes]].
* "The Lord of Calamity" is meant to [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast sound ominous and imposing]], but it ends up sounding corny (at best) or downright cringe-worthy; especially when read aloud. Made moreso, since the one it refers to is [[TheCynic a moody]] teenaged girl, rather than the awe-inspiring force of destruction one might have envisioned.
* Velvet's Arte Discord (Finishes off a combo when you therionize a human) ends with her giving out an angry cry. While it fits some situations (ie, early-game when a bunch of exorcists are sent to kill Velvet and Rokurou), it feels weird in other parts.
* [[spoiler:Velvet and Innominat link together and feed off of each other's power so that Velvet can seal Innominat away]] and Innominat makes a rather ungraceful *nom* sound as he bites down.
* The awe-inspiring feel of Laphicet [[spoiler: becoming a dragon after ascending to to the status of a full-fledged Empyrean]] in the ending is deflated the moment he speaks and reveals his voice didn't change.
* "Why do birds fly?" Not quite as thought-provoking a question as some of the characters believe, even on a metaphorical level. It often comes out of nowhere, too. And one of the answers given is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology "because if it can't fly, it's not a bird"]].
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* Like many Tales games, the player can invoke this by using ill-fitting DLC costumes that make them look ridiculous, turning serious scenes into hilarity by the characters being in such ''ridiculous'' costumes. However, this game has a neat little easter egg sidequest where you can get accessories for ''free''. Nothing says "DarkerAndEdgier Tales game" like putting a bunny tail or cat eats on your main characters. Bonus points since you can get some of this when Alphen still has his iron mask.
** One of your free costumes is Alphen's ruined clothes. Just like Velvet's RummageSaleReject clothes? Make Alphen and Shionne go through the game in their first costumes which consist of ruined clothes and what look like pajamas.
* An early conversation between Zephyr and Alphen has Zephyr say something to the effect of "I can tell by looking at your face". An innocent comment, but this is before Alphen has any of his mask off, so it turns an otherwise normal conversation into unintentional comedy because Zephyr can't even see Alphen's face, making the comment stand out. Other phrases certainly would have fit better given the context.
* The first skit in which Shionne talks to Alphen. Alphen mentions he can't take the mask off, and [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome points out how difficult it really is, including how hard it is to eat]]. Realistic? Yes, but the fact he can see what's going on despite a face-covering mask makes it... hilarious. This is very likely an IntendedAudienceReaction though - as the characters deliver the lines in such a deadpan way it's hard ''not'' to laugh.
* In one skit, Alphen and Shionne sneeze because they walk into a cold area. [[SpecialEffectFailure Their models are completely static except for their mouths]], and the panel shakes when they sneeze. Of course, it's intended to be a more humorous skit making this the IntendedAudienceReaction.
* Much like Kratos, Shionne takes every single battle seriously. Fair enough up until in a common battle she faces something as mundane as a boar or hawk and yells "I won't forgive you!" at them like she's become unhinged.
* If Alphen drops off of too high a drop, he fortunately doesn't take FallDamage -- instead he just falls down and says "Ugh! [[DullSurprise Guess I misread the landing]]." While it actually makes sense early on, later in the game [[spoiler:when his ability to feel pain returns]] he still delivers this line.
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Given the [[DarkerAndEdgier nature of the game,]] the developers tried to give it as little Narm as possible, but in some moments it was inevitable:

* Much like in other VideoGame/TalesSeries games, the player has the ability to invoke this. Velvet and Magilou's outfits [[RummageSaleReject already look ridiculous]] enough, but you can make it even more silly by, say, [[http://blog.talesofgame.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Customization-2-1140x580.png giving Velvet a red sombrero and sunglasses]] or making the party wear swimsuits into battle. Or watch every dramatic moment be made completely absurd by dressing the party in [[http://www.gamersheroes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Tales-Of-Berseria-Fashion-Guide-900x506.jpg giant Normin mascot costumes]].
* "The Lord of Calamity" is meant to [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast sound ominous and imposing]], but it ends up sounding corny (at best) or downright cringe-worthy; especially when read aloud. Made moreso, since the one it refers to is [[TheCynic a moody]] teenaged girl, rather than the awe-inspiring force of destruction one might have envisioned.
* Velvet's Arte Discord (Finishes off a combo when you therionize a human) ends with her giving out an angry cry. While it fits some situations (ie, early-game when a bunch of exorcists are sent to kill Velvet and Rokurou), it feels weird in other parts.
* [[spoiler:Velvet and Innominat link together and feed off of each other's power so that Velvet can seal Innominat away]] and Innominat makes a rather ungraceful *nom* sound as he bites down.
* The awe-inspiring feel of Laphicet [[spoiler: becoming a dragon after ascending to to the status of a full-fledged Empyrean]] in the ending is deflated the moment he speaks and reveals his voice didn't change.
* "Why do birds fly?" Not quite as thought-provoking a question as some of the characters believe, even on a metaphorical level. It often comes out of nowhere, too. And one of the answers given is [[ArtisticLicenseBiology "because if it can't fly, it's not a bird"]].
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[[folder:Tales of Arise]]
* Like many Tales games, the player can invoke this by using ill-fitting DLC costumes that make them look ridiculous, turning serious scenes into hilarity by the characters being in such ''ridiculous'' costumes. However, this game has a neat little easter egg sidequest where you can get accessories for ''free''. Nothing says "DarkerAndEdgier Tales game" like putting a bunny tail or cat eats on your main characters. Bonus points since you can get some of this when Alphen still has his iron mask.
** One of your free costumes is Alphen's ruined clothes. Just like Velvet's RummageSaleReject clothes? Make Alphen and Shionne go through the game in their first costumes which consist of ruined clothes and what look like pajamas.
* An early conversation between Zephyr and Alphen has Zephyr say something to the effect of "I can tell by looking at your face". An innocent comment, but this is before Alphen has any of his mask off, so it turns an otherwise normal conversation into unintentional comedy because Zephyr can't even see Alphen's face, making the comment stand out. Other phrases certainly would have fit better given the context.
* The first skit in which Shionne talks to Alphen. Alphen mentions he can't take the mask off, and [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome points out how difficult it really is, including how hard it is to eat]]. Realistic? Yes, but the fact he can see what's going on despite a face-covering mask makes it... hilarious. This is very likely an IntendedAudienceReaction though - as the characters deliver the lines in such a deadpan way it's hard ''not'' to laugh.
* In one skit, Alphen and Shionne sneeze because they walk into a cold area. [[SpecialEffectFailure Their models are completely static except for their mouths]], and the panel shakes when they sneeze. Of course, it's intended to be a more humorous skit making this the IntendedAudienceReaction.
* Much like Kratos, Shionne takes every single battle seriously. Fair enough up until in a common battle she faces something as mundane as a boar or hawk and yells "I won't forgive you!" at them like she's become unhinged.
* If Alphen drops off of too high a drop, he fortunately doesn't take FallDamage -- instead he just falls down and says "Ugh! [[DullSurprise Guess I misread the landing]]." While it actually makes sense early on, later in the game [[spoiler:when his ability to feel pain returns]] he still delivers this line.
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* Lloyd's exclamation "Don't even start spewing the word, "justice"! I hate that word!" was more than a little mood-ruining. Taken out of context it can easily be used to portray Lloyd as a super criminal.

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** Another of Zelos' battle lines is going "Damn, I must be a genius!" at inventing a new arte. It's entirely possible to spam his base Demon Fang move, have him throw out his attempt at a BadassBoast.. and then promptly belt out a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC9c7_3L3fQ Double Demon Fang]]. The tone of his voice for using it almost seems like it was ''made'' to emphasize the likelihood of this happening.



* One of Zelos' lines when choosing a battle plan mid battle: "We're goin' with mah pimp plan."

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* Also, one of the Iselia civilians has ''[[Creator/ScottMenville the same voice as Lloyd]]'', just pitched slightly deeper. It's such a bad attempt at covering it up, it sounds like Lloyd's mastered ventriloquism.
** Interestingly enough, another villager in that same scene is voiced by [[Creator/JenniferHale Jennifer Hale]], so technically you have ''Sheena'' asking the mayor to spare a child!
* There's also how Presea chooses to handle things at Rodyle's ranch. Rodyle is a ridiculous villain anyway (probably only being beaten by Magnius in that regard), but when he tells Presea he would have treated her better if she'd just made him a Key Crest, Presea yells, "...DIE!!" ...And then she just stands there. She ''was'' previously an EmotionlessGirl, but come on. And then Rodyle ruins any credibility by giggling.
* [[spoiler: Botta's death]] was really stupid. First, the aforementioned "DIE!!" events, then Rodyle drowns the humans at the ranch just to try and slow down the group, and Colette goes, "No!!" in a really whiny voice. Things get a bit more serious when you fight Rodyle (aside from the fact he equipped a Cruxis Crystal straight onto himself...shouldn't he know that turns you into a monster?) but then, he hits the destruct button. By staggering really slowly over to it and then collapsing on top of it. So, [[spoiler: Botta]] and his mooks burst in and order everyone to leave so they can fix the machine...then they decide to kill themselves rather than let the whole ranch flood, because they need the mana canon. But, the room Lloyd and co are in has a dome in the ceiling they could have easily escaped from. Lloyd even tries to tell them that, but they ignore him and shut the screen. Regal then tries to ''kick'' in a gigantic metal wall, which just looks ridiculous. Then everyone starts shouting about being "surrounded" by three dragons, even though they've battled dragons without much problem before. All this than leads to [[spoiler: Mithos]] conveniently riding in on some Rheairds to save everyone. It's also ''never explained'' how they all manage to get on them, and they totally forget about trying to save the rest of the captives at the ranch.
* So you have your absolutely awesome [[DuelBoss duel]] with [[spoiler: Kratos.]] Then there's a [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments heartwarming scene]] where [[spoiler: Lloyd forgives Kratos for betraying the party.]] You think a TearJerker might be coming up when [[spoiler: Kratos goes to [[HeroicSacrifice release Origin's Seal]]]]. Then he goes through with it, and what happens? [[spoiler: Yuan shows up and catches the barely-living Kratos, who flops his head towards the camera at the most [[UnintentionalUncannyValley disturbing of angles,]] and offers up this beautiful [[{{Narm}} narmy,]] [[{{Wangst}} wangsty]] ''gem''.]]
--> '''[[spoiler: Kratos]]''': It looks like I've failed to die once more.
*** The funniest part is Kratos' expression during that line. He looks like [[ThisIsYourPremiseOnDrugs he got a little too into the angel dust]] there.
** There's also [[spoiler: when you defeat Abyssion. The Nebilim then tries to possess Presea, saying Presea's loneliness and isolation make her the perfect vessel. The group manage to snap her out of it, then Genis apparently cremates Abyssion's body. Only then for a box to pop up with cheerful music, "Presea earned the title: Empty Soul!"]]



!!VideoGame/TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld
* "Courage is the magic that turns dreams into reality." It can seem such a lame phrase; as ArcWords they may/may not fit into the story well, but everyone keeps saying it. Not to mention the game flashing back to that conversation every five minutes for the first hour of play, then having next to no flashbacks for the rest of the game, even when they might actually be helpful.
* Possibly, Marta's [[LimitBreak Mystic Arte.]] After [[BadassBoast a pretty cool incantation]], she leaps up into the air with some glowing effects and then... near-dead silence followed by damage (and healing to the party). Apparently the god of healing's volume isn't that high.
* Early on in Luin, when Emil tells Richter that he saw Marta, Richter proceeds to grab him and shake him. The animation makes Emil move so loosely that he looks like a rag doll, not helped by the fact that Richter's shaking goes on for an unnecessarily long amount of time.
* The voice acting, compared to the first game (which still [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny showing its age with its high-pitched voices]] and sometimes over-enthusiastic characters]] feels much more stilted, it feels like [[OnlyDoingItForTheMoney half the voice actors were just in it for the paycheck]], aside from [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously Bosch, Smith, Kawaye, and Hebert]].
* Most dramatic moments are hit hard when one takes into account Emil's rather naked shoulder-tastic outfit (Thanks, Tenebrae). You just can't unsee it.
* The amount of times Emil does his head-tilt animation can start to get plain silly. You'll start to wonder if the scarf is to keep his head from falling off from tilting it so damn much.



[[folder:Tales of Rebirth]]
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69SmvbpaYUU Veigue constantly uttering the name of "Claire", or in some instances, "CLAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRE!"]] is so frequent that even ''Namco'' constantly makes fun of it. It's even undergone a small degree of MemeticMutation.
** From the same game, there is Eugene's "GUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRGHHHH!!!!!!!". Wouldn't be so bad, except that he does it A LOT. Not as much as Veigue's "CLAAAAAAAAAIREEEEE", but close.
* Agarte's death can also be this if you don't find it a TearJerker. She carries out a perfectly normal conversation, then suddenly... Keels over and dies. It's equally sad and stupid.
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69SmvbpaYUU Veigue constantly uttering the name of "Claire", or in some instances, "CLAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRE!"]] is so frequent that even ''Namco'' constantly makes fun of it. It's even undergone a small degree of MemeticMutation.
** From the same game, there is Eugene's "GUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRGHHHH!!!!!!!". Wouldn't be so bad, except that he does it A LOT. Not as much as Veigue's "CLAAAAAAAAAIREEEEE", but close.
* Agarte's death can also be this if you don't find it a TearJerker. She carries out a perfectly normal conversation, then suddenly... Keels over and dies. It's equally sad and stupid.
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* From ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', [[spoiler: Zelos's death on Kratos's ending]] is hilarious.
** This scene is made even more hilarious when [[spoiler: Zelos is wearing his "Pickup Artist" beach outfit. If you choose to let him live and he wears that outfit, he rescues the party from Mithos in the Hall of the Great Seed in the same outfit.]]
*** Abusing the outfits in New Game Plus can be funny in general. For instance, near the start of the game, Lloyd is taken into custody, breaks out, sneaks around the base a little, and ducks into a room when some guards are about to see him, eliciting a "And just who the hell are you?" from the villian who was standing just inside the doorway. This is all fine in-context, but if Lloyd is wearing nothing but a pair of swimtrunks, a googly-diving mask and flippers the whole time...
*** Similarly, there's the scene at the end of Disc 1 where [[spoiler:Colette is shot by Forcystus, tearing her clothes and revealing her crystallization to everyone]]. With the character's normal outfit on, the scene is fairly dramatic, but if [[spoiler:Colette]] is wearing any other outfit, her outfit suddenly changes right back to her default costume without warning (due to the scene [[spoiler:using a special character model for Colette to show her clothing damage and crystallization]]). With this happening at the exact moment [[spoiler:she is hit by Forcystus]], it almost looks like she's a Mario character who lost a power-up, making the scene unintentionally hilarious.
*** There's also the way she screams, "Don't look! Ugh! Don't look at me!" and then promptly falls over backwards.
* When [[spoiler: Colette loses her soul]] you get this famous scene-killer:

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* %%* From ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', [[spoiler: Zelos's death on Kratos's ending]] is hilarious.
** This scene is made even more hilarious when [[spoiler: Zelos is wearing his "Pickup Artist" beach outfit. If you choose to let him live and he wears that outfit, he rescues the party from Mithos in the Hall of the Great Seed in the same outfit.]]
*** Abusing the outfits in New Game Plus can be funny in general. For instance, near the start of the game, Lloyd is taken into custody, breaks out, sneaks around the base a little, and ducks into a room when some guards are about to see him, eliciting a "And just who the hell are you?" from the villian who was standing just inside the doorway. This is all fine in-context, but if Lloyd is wearing nothing but a pair of swimtrunks, a googly-diving mask and flippers the whole time...
*** Similarly, there's the scene at the end of Disc 1 where [[spoiler:Colette is shot by Forcystus, tearing her clothes and revealing her crystallization to everyone]]. With the character's normal outfit on, the scene is fairly dramatic, but if [[spoiler:Colette]] is wearing any other outfit, her outfit suddenly changes right back to her default costume without warning (due to the scene [[spoiler:using a special character model for Colette to show her clothing damage and crystallization]]). With this happening at the exact moment [[spoiler:she is hit by Forcystus]], it almost looks like she's a Mario character who lost a power-up, making the scene unintentionally hilarious.
*** There's also the way she screams, "Don't look! Ugh! Don't look at me!" and then promptly falls over backwards.
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%%* When [[spoiler: Colette loses her soul]] you get this famous scene-killer:



* [[spoiler:After Presea regains her true self and discovers what has become of her father, you can't help but laugh at the scream]].
** It doesn't help at ''all'' if you [[spoiler:recognize that same scream as the exact same scream that [[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents Timmy Turner's]] [[ScreamsLikeaLittleGirl dad]] [[Creator/TaraStrong occasionally belts out.]]]]
* Also from ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', the BonusBoss's line, said in a very overly dramatic deep voice: [[spoiler: "I will show you my true power!"]] [[ThatOneBoss The actual battle aside]], that only just increased the ridiculousness of the laughably cliched villain storyline-wise.
* [[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KRMyoOvLUdI "What is this ominous light that threatens to ENGULF US?"]]
* The weirdly executed attempts to avoid gendered pronouns and names after [[spoiler: Mithos possesses and kidnaps any one party member apart from Lloyd or Kratos]]. It was hilarious that [[spoiler:the missing party member]] would only be referred vaguely and strangely to as "Our Friend" instead of he/she/him/her/it/insert name here while [[spoiler: Heimdall gets rained on by fragments of the Tower of Salvation]]. Even more so that [[spoiler:Genis]] says it [[spoiler:unless he got kidnapped]].
** Around that same time, when the party realizes that [[spoiler: Derris Kharlan is about to leave, dooming the world to die from mana deprivation]], Genis will say "This is a much bigger problem then [[spoiler: reuniting the worlds]]." and then ''immediately after'', respond with "Who cares?! [[spoiler:Our friend just got kidnapped!]]" Genis, we're already worried about your mental health. Arguing with yourself doesn't help your case. The same incident also occurs with Zelos if Genis is the one that got kidnapped, and the player isn't as worried about Zelos' mental health as they are about Genis'.
** In the final area, reuniting the party requires Lloyd and his friend of choice to remind the other party members of what they have learned during the journey. They're divided into thematic pairs of Genis and Raine, Zelos and Sheena, and Presea and Regal. If one of the six is your friend of choice, Colette replaces them. Thus, if Regal is your chosen party member, you get to see a dramatic scene in which Presea tries to stop ''[[ThePollyanna Colette]]'' from killing Alicia. ''Really?''
* Regal obtained the title, "El Presidente"! Averted in the Spanish translation, for obvious reasons.

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* %%* [[spoiler:After Presea regains her true self and discovers what has become of her father, you can't help but laugh at the scream]].
** It doesn't help at ''all'' if you [[spoiler:recognize that same scream as the exact same scream that [[WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents Timmy Turner's]] [[ScreamsLikeaLittleGirl dad]] [[Creator/TaraStrong occasionally belts out.]]]]
* Also from ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', the BonusBoss's line, said in a very overly dramatic deep voice: [[spoiler: "I will show you my true power!"]] [[ThatOneBoss The actual battle aside]], that only just increased the ridiculousness of the laughably cliched villain storyline-wise.
* [[http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KRMyoOvLUdI "What is this ominous light that threatens to ENGULF US?"]]
* The weirdly executed attempts to avoid gendered pronouns and names after [[spoiler: Mithos possesses and kidnaps any one party member apart from Lloyd or Kratos]]. It was hilarious that [[spoiler:the missing party member]] would only be referred vaguely and strangely to as "Our Friend" instead of he/she/him/her/it/insert name here while [[spoiler: Heimdall gets rained on by fragments of the Tower of Salvation]]. Even more so that [[spoiler:Genis]] says it [[spoiler:unless he got kidnapped]].
** Around that same time, when the party realizes that [[spoiler: Derris Kharlan is about to leave, dooming the world to die from mana deprivation]], Genis will say "This is a much bigger problem then [[spoiler: reuniting the worlds]]." and then ''immediately after'', respond with "Who cares?! [[spoiler:Our friend just got kidnapped!]]" Genis, we're already worried about your mental health. Arguing with yourself doesn't help your case. The same incident also occurs with Zelos if Genis is the one that got kidnapped, and the player isn't as worried about Zelos' mental health as they are about Genis'.
** In the final area, reuniting the party requires Lloyd and his friend of choice to remind the other party members of what they have learned during the journey. They're divided into thematic pairs of Genis and Raine, Zelos and Sheena, and Presea and Regal. If one of the six is your friend of choice, Colette replaces them. Thus, if Regal is your chosen party member, you get to see a dramatic scene in which Presea tries to stop ''[[ThePollyanna Colette]]'' from killing Alicia. ''Really?''
* Regal obtained the title, "El Presidente"! Averted in the Spanish translation, for obvious reasons.
scream]].



** And the sound the cup makes when it hits the ground makes it seem as if it was actually empty.
** Try watching the same scene in Japanese in ''Chronicles''. All drama remaining in the scene is hurt by excessive owl hooting and background music that's loud enough to drown out Colette.
* The scene where Magnius's forces attack Palmacosta. There's one part where a Desian mage, taking a page from the infamous [[Narm/TheLastAirbender Pebble Dance]], does an interperative dance around his staff for about ''five seconds'' in order to produce ''one'' fireball; one-third of the game's weakest black magic spell. Then Genis just blocks it with Force Field, so it was ''completely'' useless.
** The best part of this is how Genis struts offscreen after blocking the fireball with the smuggest look on his face, like he's just done something amazing.

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** And the sound the cup makes when it hits the ground makes it seem as if it was actually empty.
** Try watching the same scene in Japanese in ''Chronicles''. All drama remaining in the scene is hurt by excessive owl hooting and background music that's loud enough to drown out Colette.
* The scene where Magnius's forces attack Palmacosta. There's one part where a Desian mage, taking a page from the infamous [[Narm/TheLastAirbender Pebble Dance]], does an interperative dance around his staff for about ''five seconds'' in order to produce ''one'' fireball; one-third of the game's weakest black magic spell. Then Genis just blocks it with Force Field, so it was ''completely'' useless.
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useless. The best part of this is how Genis struts offscreen after blocking the fireball with the smuggest look on his face, like he's just done something amazing.



* "It's Magnius from the eastern ranch!" "That's ''LORD'' Magnius, vermin!"
** If you look at Magnius as he says it and crushes the poor guy's neck, he finishes the line by making an extremely goofy face.
** Magnius is just narm on legs.
* When starting the boss fight against Magnius, he has the scripted line, "You really think you're gonna live through this?!" which is bad enough on its own. However, each character has their own individual sound bite reacting to a number of events, one of which is 'enemy spellcaster is charging an attack' - every time this trigger happens, one of the party members the player isn't controlling will shout their alert phrase. Lloyd's alert phrase for that trigger happens to be "Not a chance!" Magnius begins casting immediately after saying that opening line, so if the player isn't controlling Lloyd at the time, he sounds ''awfully'' pessimistic for an IdiotHero.
* The scene where Lloyd [[spoiler:finds out that Kratos is his biological father]]. It goes along pretty smoothly until Colette comes out. Lloyd is in complete shock upon learning [[spoiler:that Kratos is his dad]] and Colette, just finding out and seemingly not shocked at all, proceeds to give him a heartfelt speech about how it doesn't matter who his (Lloyd's) parents are or what his background is and that he's him no matter what. There are also two Renegade mooks right in front of her ready to kill on command while this is going on (but then again they're such pitiful enemies, it's not surprising she's not feeling too threatened). Lloyd then approaches [[spoiler:Kratos]] and gives him a speech about how "no life should be born for the purpose of dying" and how he disapproves of what Cruxis does. Did we mention the guy's lying on the ground in pain after taking one of Yuan's...electricity ball things to the back? Thank God [[spoiler:Mithos]] comes out and [[LampshadeHanging points out how corny it was]]!
-->"Wow, that was an amazingly corny speech. Congratulations."
** That entire scene was funny, just for the little things: The scene starts with Lloyd waking up to find [[spoiler:Yuan]] just standing next to him, saying [[spoiler:"Do you want to meet your father?"]] No context, no warning, he's just ''there''. Gets better when, instead of asking why the hell he's there/how he got in/what it is he wants, he just asks [[spoiler:"What have you done with my dad?!"]], as if that's the most bizarre/worrying thing about the situation. When he leaves the house, and he finds out that [[spoiler:Kratos is his father]], he says in his anguish "No...[[spoiler:Kratos]] can't be my dad. I c...I can't believe that! I won't believe that", which would be great and all ''if the guy wasn't still there, hearing everything he was saying.'' Even if you didn't like [[spoiler:Kratos]], that's still a little harsh. Then you get [[spoiler:Yuan]] ruining whatever menace he'd accumulated with the line [[spoiler:"You changed once you got a family!"]], as if he was just complaining that [[spoiler:Kratos]] had just stopped going to the pub or something. And then, to top it all off, there's [[spoiler:Mithos']] hilariously over-the-top evil laugh when he's [[spoiler:kicking the shit out of Yuan]]. Combine it with his incredibly bored expression, and overall, what should be a sad and heartfelt scene turns into comedy GOLD.
** It gets even better. Don't press anything while Mithos is kicking Yuan. He ''keeps doing it'' while Lloyd looks on. Even Colette at least bothered to look shocked.
** Don't forget when a random Renegade mook knocks Lloyd down with a cheesy "thunk" noise, and Lloyd immediately gets back up like nothing happened! He then approaches [[spoiler: Yuan]] and says, "Don't mock my mom!" and tries to hit him with his sword, which Yuan dodges by apparently ''ice-skating'' out of the way, then tries to blast Lloyd. [[spoiler: Kratos]] takes the shot, kneels down before Lloyd and says, "Are you all right? ...Good." and promptly falls over backwards, still kneeling.
** It gets worse when [[spoiler:Mithos [[KicktheDog shoots at Presea]] and Altessa [[TakingTheBullet takes the shot for her]]. He jumps about ''three feet into the air'' for no apparent reason upon getting hit, and the animation makes it look more like he's [[BananaPeel slipping on a banana peel]] than being shot.]]
** Right after that, [[spoiler:Tabatha responds to her master getting shot by saying that Mithos saved her once. His response? "Shut up." He then shoots her with magic, knocking her down while she says her line again.]] It's supposed to be a dramatic moment, and it is, but Tabatha's voice and tone makes that particular part more funny than serious.
* Right after some of Zelos's best character development in his Flanoir scene, we get this gem:
--> Zelos: [[spoiler: Did I piss you off?]]
--> Lloyd: [[spoiler: Hell yes! Of course! It'd be a huge problem for me if everything were destroyed!]]
* After dodging a punch from Dirk, Lloyd gives us this:
-->'''Lloyd''': Ugh...! You don't have to hit me!

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* "It's Magnius from the eastern ranch!" "That's ''LORD'' Magnius, vermin!"
**
vermin!" If you look at Magnius as he says it and crushes the poor guy's neck, he finishes the line by making an extremely goofy face.
** Magnius is just narm on legs.
* When starting the boss fight against Magnius, he has the scripted line, "You really think you're gonna live through this?!" which is bad enough on its own. However, each character has their own individual sound bite reacting to a number of events, one of which is 'enemy spellcaster is charging an attack' - every time this trigger happens, one of the party members the player isn't controlling will shout their alert phrase. Lloyd's alert phrase for that trigger happens to be "Not a chance!" Magnius begins casting immediately after saying that opening line, so if the player isn't controlling Lloyd at the time, he sounds ''awfully'' pessimistic for an IdiotHero.
* The scene where Lloyd [[spoiler:finds out that Kratos is his biological father]]. It goes along pretty smoothly until Colette comes out. Lloyd is in complete shock upon learning [[spoiler:that Kratos is his dad]] and Colette, just finding out and seemingly not shocked at all, proceeds to give him a heartfelt speech about how it doesn't matter who his (Lloyd's) parents are or what his background is and that he's him no matter what. There are also two Renegade mooks right in front of her ready to kill on command while this is going on (but then again they're such pitiful enemies, it's not surprising she's not feeling too threatened). Lloyd then approaches [[spoiler:Kratos]] and gives him a speech about how "no life should be born for the purpose of dying" and how he disapproves of what Cruxis does. Did we mention the guy's lying on the ground in pain after taking one of Yuan's...electricity ball things to the back? Thank God [[spoiler:Mithos]] comes out and [[LampshadeHanging points out how corny it was]]!
-->"Wow, that was an amazingly corny speech. Congratulations."
** That entire scene was funny, just for the little things: The scene starts with Lloyd waking up to find [[spoiler:Yuan]] just standing next to him, saying [[spoiler:"Do you want to meet your father?"]] No context, no warning, he's just ''there''. Gets better when, instead of asking why the hell he's there/how he got in/what it is he wants, he just asks [[spoiler:"What have you done with my dad?!"]], as if that's the most bizarre/worrying thing about the situation. When he leaves the house, and he finds out that [[spoiler:Kratos is his father]], he says in his anguish "No...[[spoiler:Kratos]] can't be my dad. I c...I can't believe that! I won't believe that", which would be great and all ''if the guy wasn't still there, hearing everything he was saying.'' Even if you didn't like [[spoiler:Kratos]], that's still a little harsh. Then you get [[spoiler:Yuan]] ruining whatever menace he'd accumulated with the line [[spoiler:"You changed once you got a family!"]], as if he was just complaining that [[spoiler:Kratos]] had just stopped going to the pub or something. And then, to top it all off, there's [[spoiler:Mithos']] hilariously over-the-top evil laugh when he's [[spoiler:kicking the shit out of Yuan]]. Combine it with his incredibly bored expression, and overall, what should be a sad and heartfelt scene turns into comedy GOLD.
** It gets even better. Don't press anything while Mithos is kicking Yuan. He ''keeps doing it'' while Lloyd looks on. Even Colette at least bothered to look shocked.
** Don't forget when a random Renegade mook knocks Lloyd down with a cheesy "thunk" noise, and Lloyd immediately gets back up like nothing happened! He then approaches [[spoiler: Yuan]] and says, "Don't mock my mom!" and tries to hit him with his sword, which Yuan dodges by apparently ''ice-skating'' out of the way, then tries to blast Lloyd. [[spoiler: Kratos]] takes the shot, kneels down before Lloyd and says, "Are you all right? ...Good." and promptly falls over backwards, still kneeling.
** It gets worse when [[spoiler:Mithos [[KicktheDog shoots at Presea]] and Altessa [[TakingTheBullet takes the shot for her]]. He jumps about ''three feet into the air'' for no apparent reason upon getting hit, and the animation makes it look more like he's [[BananaPeel slipping on a banana peel]] than being shot.]]
** Right after that, [[spoiler:Tabatha responds to her master getting shot by saying that Mithos saved her once. His response? "Shut up." He then shoots her with magic, knocking her down while she says her line again.]] It's supposed to be a dramatic moment, and it is, but Tabatha's voice and tone makes that particular part more funny than serious.
*
%%* Right after some of Zelos's best character development in his Flanoir scene, we get this gem:
--> %%--> Zelos: [[spoiler: Did I piss you off?]]
--> %%--> Lloyd: [[spoiler: Hell yes! Of course! It'd be a huge problem for me if everything were destroyed!]]
* %%* After dodging a punch from Dirk, Lloyd gives us this:
-->'''Lloyd''': %%-->'''Lloyd''': Ugh...! You don't have to hit me!

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* Pretty much everything in the English ''Tales of Eternia'' is entirely free of drama. Meredy's enraged declaration that [[spoiler:Shizel is dead]] at the end of the game, after dubbing, mostly sounds like she's about to gag.
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* The entire opening scene with Cress, Mint, and Morrison's ancestors fighting Past Dhaos is just one big case of {{Narm}}. Yes, even in Japanese it's hilariously overacted (although Japanese Dhaos does manage to sound badass at least).
* The inclusion of voice clips during cutscenes is very narmful, especially in the SFC version.
--> '''Mint:''' I'll create a barrier around the tree. ''BARRY-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!''
** Mint's voice acting in the SFC original was quite narmy in general. When she gets damaged, she sounds like a dog yelping.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmCKT3XSAU Indignation. * ahem* sorry, IN-dig-NAY-shun!]]
** WHAT the HECK is THAT???
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmCKT3XSAU "This ends HEEYA! INDIGNAYSHON!" - "It can't beee~!"]]
** If there is eeeeeevil in this world, it lurks in the hearts of men...
** [[Radio/TheShadow Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?]]
** Klaus's voice acting is outright hilarious. When he says "Origin" and "Volt" in the english Game Boy Advance version, it sounds like someone smacked him in the stomach.
** The Japanese version didn't fare much better, when he says "Volt", it ''still'' sounds like he got hit in the stomach... or like he said "Bowl!"
* Someone ran the English translation through a spell-check program that didn't recognize (and, apparently, automatically "corrected") the word Ragnarok. The end result is that the elves tell legends of a great cataclysm called ''Kangaroo''.
* Another unintentional gem from the GBA localisation: Dhaos, accused by Cress and his friends of committing his evil acts for the sake of the environment, sardonically asks "Do I look like a tree-hugger to you?" He isn't but the very visual of Dhaos being nothing more than an eco terrorist hippie, or even just plain hugging a tree...what's not to like? Not to mention such a sardonic and informal line is very unfitting for Dhaos anyhoo.
* Dhaos's final form has a white suit, which people have nicknamed [[MemeticMutation Disco Dhaos]].
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[[folder:Tales of Phantasia]]
* The entire opening scene with Cress, Mint, and Morrison's ancestors fighting Past Dhaos is just one big case of {{Narm}}. Yes, even in Japanese it's hilariously overacted (although Japanese Dhaos does manage to sound badass at least).
* The inclusion of voice clips during cutscenes is very narmful, especially in the SFC version.
--> '''Mint:''' I'll create a barrier around the tree. ''BARRY-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!''
** Mint's voice acting in the SFC original was quite narmy in general. When she gets damaged, she sounds like a dog yelping.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmCKT3XSAU Indignation. * ahem* sorry, IN-dig-NAY-shun!]]
** WHAT the HECK is THAT???
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbmCKT3XSAU "This ends HEEYA! INDIGNAYSHON!" - "It can't beee~!"]]
** If there is eeeeeevil in this world, it lurks in the hearts of men...
** [[Radio/TheShadow Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?]]
** Klaus's voice acting is outright hilarious. When he says "Origin" and "Volt" in the english Game Boy Advance version, it sounds like someone smacked him in the stomach.
** The Japanese version didn't fare much better, when he says "Volt", it ''still'' sounds like he got hit in the stomach... or like he said "Bowl!"
* Someone ran the English translation through a spell-check program that didn't recognize (and, apparently, automatically "corrected") the word Ragnarok. The end result is that the elves tell legends of a great cataclysm called ''Kangaroo''.
* Another unintentional gem from the GBA localisation: Dhaos, accused by Cress and his friends of committing his evil acts for the sake of the environment, sardonically asks "Do I look like a tree-hugger to you?" He isn't but the very visual of Dhaos being nothing more than an eco terrorist hippie, or even just plain hugging a tree...what's not to like? Not to mention such a sardonic and informal line is very unfitting for Dhaos anyhoo.
* Dhaos's final form has a white suit, which people have nicknamed [[MemeticMutation Disco Dhaos]].
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[[folder:Tales of Eternia]]
* In VideoGame/TalesOfEternia, after you counter the Final Boss's instant death attack she/it utters the line "This cannot be..." in the flattest voice possible. You have to hear it to believe it.
** Pretty much everything in the English ''Tales of Eternia'' is entirely free of drama. Meredy's enraged declaration that [[spoiler:Shizel is dead]] at the end of the game, after dubbing, mostly sounds like she's about to gag. Speaking of Shizel, her English VA in this at times sounds more like a SassyBlackWoman than an intimidating villainess.
** When Shizel returns as a cameo boss in ''Vesperia'', her dub actress plays her with a bombastic near-screeching voice that makes her sound like [[Franchise/PowerRangers Rita Repulsa]].
-->''CURSE YOUR MISERY!!''
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[[folder:Tales of Eternia]]
* In VideoGame/TalesOfEternia, after you counter the Final Boss's instant death attack she/it utters the line "This cannot be..." in the flattest voice possible. You have to hear it to believe it.
** Pretty much everything in the English ''Tales of Eternia'' is entirely free of drama. Meredy's enraged declaration that [[spoiler:Shizel is dead]] at the end of the game, after dubbing, mostly sounds like she's about to gag. Speaking of Shizel, her English VA in this at times sounds more like a SassyBlackWoman than an intimidating villainess.
** When Shizel returns as a cameo boss in ''Vesperia'', her dub actress plays her with a bombastic near-screeching voice that makes her sound like [[Franchise/PowerRangers Rita Repulsa]].
-->''CURSE YOUR MISERY!!''
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* In a more obscure example, Karell's death in ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny 2''. You see, his sister, Harold (yes, it's a long story), already knew from the time-traveling main characters that he was going to die; her response was something among the lines of "Well, I can't do anything to change the future, so I'll focus on our goal right now". However, when Karell dies, she goes on to dramatically cry about it like a helpless little girl. Sure, some could say that even though she ''knew'' it she wasn't prepared to face it, but it's still pretty hard to feel sad by the scene. The way he's stabbed is also very narmful, as it looks like he was gently poked in the stomach rather than getting ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice.
** Made worse by the fact that a healer who ''doesn't'' know Karell is supposed to die is right there... And does ''nothing''.
* Judas breaking his mask off in his "Infernal Suffering" Mystic Arte to reveal that [[spoiler:he's Leon Magnus?]] Awesome. Him doing it multiple times in a single battle, breaking off multiple ghost masks all the while? Goodbye, suspension of disbelief!

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* In a more obscure example, Karell's death in ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny 2''. You see, his sister, Harold (yes, it's a long story), already knew from the time-traveling main characters that he was going to die; her response was something among the lines of "Well, I can't do anything to change the future, so I'll focus on our goal right now". However, when Karell dies, she goes on to dramatically cry about it like a helpless little girl. Sure, some could say that even though she ''knew'' it she wasn't prepared to face it, but it's still pretty hard to feel sad by the scene. The way he's stabbed is also very narmful, as it looks like he was gently poked in the stomach rather than getting ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice.
** Made worse by the fact that a healer who ''doesn't'' know Karell is supposed to die is right there... And does ''nothing''.
* Judas breaking his mask off in his "Infernal Suffering" Mystic Arte to reveal that [[spoiler:he's Leon Magnus?]] Awesome. Him doing it multiple times in a single battle, breaking off multiple ghost masks all the while? Goodbye, suspension of disbelief!A bit too silly.
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** Another of Zelos' battle lines is going "Damn, I must be a genius!" at inventing a new arte. It's entirely possible to spam his base Demon Fang move, have him throw out his attempt at a BadassBoast.. and then promptly belt out a [[BoringButPractical Double Demon Fang]]. The tone of his voice for using it almost seems like it was ''made'' to emphasize the likelihood of this happening.

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** Another of Zelos' battle lines is going "Damn, I must be a genius!" at inventing a new arte. It's entirely possible to spam his base Demon Fang move, have him throw out his attempt at a BadassBoast.. and then promptly belt out a [[BoringButPractical [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC9c7_3L3fQ Double Demon Fang]]. The tone of his voice for using it almost seems like it was ''made'' to emphasize the likelihood of this happening.
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** Another of Zelos' battle lines is going "Damn, I must be a genius!" at inventing a new arte. It's entirely possible to spam his base Demon Fang move, have him throw out his attempt at a BadassBoast.. and then promptly belt out a [[BoringButPractical Double Demon Fang]]. The tone of his voice for using it almost seems like it was ''made'' to emphasize the likelihood of this happening.

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