History Narm / StarWars

1st Dec '16 11:11:36 AM MightyKombat
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* In ''Film/ANewHope'', Vader's line "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force" is important for introducing viewers to the then-new concept underlying much of the series, but the way Vader says it has a little bit of this. His casual tone as he addressed a Moff with this important line makes it sound as if he was helpfully informing him about a new pie recipe he'd discovered, rather than expositing about the central metaphysical concept underlying the entire saga. What's worse, this is also supposed to be ''menacing'', him sternly warning the Moff of his ridiculously arrogant attitude, yet the delivery doesn't add much menace at all. The bit directly after it, however...

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* In ''Film/ANewHope'', Vader's line "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force" is important for introducing viewers to the then-new concept underlying much of the series, but the way Vader says it has a little bit of this. His casual tone as he addressed a Moff Admiral Motti with this important line makes it sound as if he was helpfully informing him about a new pie recipe he'd discovered, rather than expositing about the central metaphysical concept underlying the entire saga. What's worse, this is also supposed to be ''menacing'', him sternly warning the Moff Motti of his ridiculously arrogant attitude, yet the delivery doesn't add much menace at all. The bit directly after it, however...



* "Bounty Hunters? We don't need their scum!" - "Yes, sir." What kind of answer is that?

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* "Bounty Hunters? We don't need their scum!" - "Yes, sir." What kind of answer is that?that? The best anyone can suggest was the officer replying to Admiral Piett's complaint in a way that blows him off without seeming insubordinate, and clearly said officer gave up one syllable through.



** ''Darksaber'' has its own share of absurdity. The villain, Durga the Hutt, tries to build a Death Star knockoff on the cheap, stripping it right down to the cylinder like cannon shaped like a giant lightsaber (hence the title). Besides being the last gasp of one of the [[StrictlyFormula most tired story formulas]] in the Star Wars expanded universe, Durga's plan comically falls flat on it's face because he decides to phone in the whole project, using alien slaves that are so easily distracted and such sloppy workers, that the Darksaber is basically held together by chewing gum and wire. Oh, and did we mention it was [[TooDumbToLive built inside of an Asteroid field?]] When Durga tries to escape with it by blasting his way through the field, the [[EpicFail superlaser completely shorts out and the Darksaber gets completely destroyed by an asteroid]]. Factor this in with the fact that the story resulted in Crix Madine, one of the most beloved Star Wars side characters, getting killed off in a botched attempt to sabotage the Darksaber (which blew up in its face anyway, rendering his death completely pointless), and you have one of the worst Star Wars stories of all time.

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** ''Darksaber'' has its own share of absurdity. The villain, Durga the Hutt, tries to build a Death Star knockoff on the cheap, stripping it right down to the cylinder like cannon shaped like a giant lightsaber (hence the title). Besides being the last gasp of one of the [[StrictlyFormula most tired story formulas]] in the Star Wars expanded universe, Durga's plan comically falls flat on it's face because he decides to phone in the whole project, using alien slaves that are so easily distracted and such sloppy workers, that the Darksaber is basically held together by chewing gum and wire.wire, to make no mention of hiring an Imperial officer who's [[FakeUltimateHero like the]] [[Franchise/{{DragonBall}} Mr. Satan]] of Imperial officers and invests hopelessly outdated, antiquited computer cores for his Darksaber pet project to operate on. About the only effort Durga even puts into the damn thing is stealing the original Death Star plans from the New Republic and hiring Bevel Lemelisk, the original Death Star's designer, and even Lemelisk just throws up his hands and gives up on the thing. Oh, and did we mention it was [[TooDumbToLive built inside of an Asteroid field?]] When Durga tries to escape with it by blasting his way through the field, the [[EpicFail superlaser completely shorts out and the Darksaber gets completely destroyed by an asteroid]]. Factor this in with the fact that the story resulted in Crix Madine, one of the most beloved Star Wars side characters, getting killed off in a botched attempt to sabotage the Darksaber (which blew up in its face anyway, rendering his death completely pointless), and you have one of the worst Star Wars stories of all time.
27th Nov '16 9:11:47 PM YpsiFang
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* Speaking of names: Ever notice the rather "obvious" nature of most [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sith names]]? "Vader"... as in ''in''-vader. "Sidious", as in ''in''-sidious. And then "Maul". And from the source materials, "Bane" (as in "''bane'' of our existence"). "Tyrannus", granted, ''is'' a bit of an AwesomeMcCoolname, but it's still "obvious"...
** Vader means father in Dutch. Do the math from there.

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* Speaking of names: Ever notice the rather "obvious" obvious nature of most [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Sith names]]? "Vader"... as in ''in''-vader. "Sidious", as in ''in''-sidious. And then "Maul". And from the source materials, "Bane" (as in "''bane'' of our existence"). "Tyrannus", granted, ''is'' a bit of an AwesomeMcCoolname, but it's still "obvious"...
** Vader means father in Dutch. Do the math from there.
obvious...
26th Nov '16 7:56:53 PM fusilcontrafusil
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* Kylo Ren's [[NonstandardCharacterDesign unusual facial features]] can make certain dramatic scenes with his mask removed hard to take seriously. The genetic lottery was not kind to him unlike his parents and grandparents.
** YMMV: A LOT of folks find him absolutely gorgeous and his hair, incredible. His face may be odd but it's uniquely attractive. As far as many fans are concerned, the Genetic Lottery's affect on him is just fine.

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* Kylo Ren's [[NonstandardCharacterDesign unusual facial features]] can make certain dramatic scenes with his mask removed hard to take seriously. The genetic lottery was not kind to him unlike his parents and grandparents.
** YMMV: A LOT of folks find him absolutely gorgeous
grandparents, and his hair, incredible. His face may be odd but it's uniquely attractive. As far as he looks nothing like them - stretching many fans are concerned, the Genetic Lottery's affect on him is just fine.viewers' suspension of disbelief.
23rd Nov '16 9:32:40 PM KingClark
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* Some viewers have found it hard to take Snoke seriously after the scene where he is revealed to look like a giant version of [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Gollum]], sitting on a throne. Others find him hard to take seriously [[TomtheDarkLord because they think his name sounds ridiculous]]. Still others find him hard to take seriously because he's CGI, unlike Ian [=McDiarmid's=] flesh-and-blood Palpatine.
** [[spoiler:Snoke appears absolutely huge. This is a hologram. Cue TheWizardOfOz jokes.]]

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* Some viewers have found it hard to take Snoke seriously after the scene where he is revealed to look like a giant version of [[Film/TheLordOfTheRings Gollum]], sitting on a throne. Others find him hard to take seriously [[TomtheDarkLord [[TomTheDarkLord because they think his name sounds ridiculous]]. Still others find him hard to take seriously because he's CGI, unlike Ian [=McDiarmid's=] flesh-and-blood Palpatine.
** [[spoiler:Snoke Snoke appears absolutely huge. This is a hologram. Cue TheWizardOfOz ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' jokes.]]
23rd Nov '16 9:30:18 PM KingClark
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* During the finale [[spoiler: Kylo Ren stops to hit at the wound in his side a few times.]][[http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/111284/why-does-kylo-ren-keep-hitting-the-side-of-his-body While there are plausible theories for why he does it]] there's no in-universe explanation given, and the acting and sound effects aren't quite there. To make things worse, he takes a break ''mid-fight'' to do it again, and Rey and Finn are staring at him, clearly weirded out by what he's doing.

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* During the finale [[spoiler: Kylo Ren stops to hit at the wound in his side a few times.]][[http://scifi.]] [[http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/111284/why-does-kylo-ren-keep-hitting-the-side-of-his-body While there are plausible theories for why he does it]] there's no in-universe explanation given, and the acting and sound effects aren't quite there. To make things worse, he takes a break ''mid-fight'' to do it again, and Rey and Finn are staring at him, clearly weirded out by what he's doing.
23rd Nov '16 9:29:39 PM KingClark
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* Andy Serkis's character being named Supreme Leader... [[TomtheDarkLord Snoke]]. The fandom made many puns at the character's expense. Essentially, the response to the announcement was more-or-less the same as the response to the reveal that [[Literature/StarWarsTarkin Palpatine's first name was Sheev]].

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* Andy Serkis's character being named Supreme Leader... [[TomtheDarkLord [[TomTheDarkLord Snoke]]. The fandom made many puns at the character's expense. Essentially, the response to the announcement was more-or-less the same as the response to the reveal that [[Literature/StarWarsTarkin Palpatine's first name was Sheev]].
14th Nov '16 4:17:30 PM Hawaii_Knut
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* "Bounty Hunters? We don't need their scum!" - "Yes, sir." What kind of answer is that?
5th Nov '16 8:49:20 PM wsowen02
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** What makes it even more absurd is that this is not the first time they have met. Obi-Wan and Grievous dueled multiple times during the Clone Wars, usually ending with Grievous turning tail and running.
2nd Nov '16 8:45:12 AM Hawaii_Knut
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* The ease with which Palpatine manipulates Anakin is a verbal equivalent to TheWorfEffect, laughably so. When Palpatine reveals e's the Sith Lord, the conversation goes like "Learn the Dark Side. Only through me will you save Padme!" - "I'll tell the Jedi." - "You don't trust them because they don't trust you." - "Uhhh...", and then Palps convinces Anakin with the words "You have great wisdom, Anakin". Anakin must be mentally challenged to fall for this.


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* The ease with which Palpatine manipulates Anakin is a verbal equivalent to TheWorfEffect, laughably so. When Palpatine reveals that he's the Sith Lord, the conversation goes like "Learn the Dark Side. Only through me will you save Padme!" - "I'll tell the Jedi." - "You don't trust them because they don't trust you." - "Uhhh...", and then Palps convinces Anakin with the words "You have great wisdom, Anakin". Anakin must be mentally challenged to fall for this.
1st Nov '16 5:44:30 PM NhazUl
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* The ease with which Palpatine manipulates Anakin is a verbal equivalent to TheWorfEffect, laughably so. When Palpatine reveals e's the Sith Lord, the conversation goes like "Learn the Dark Side. Only through me will you save Padme!" - "I'll tell the Jedi." - "You don't trust them because they don't trust you." - "Uhhh...", and then Palps convinces Anakin with the words "You have great wisdom, Anakin". Anakin must be mentally challenged to fall for this.
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