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** The Turtles' first two albums, ''It Ain't Me Babe'' and ''You, Baby'', were the first major producing efforts of Bones Howe, who had already gained some recognition in the music industry for engineering several hits by artists such as Music/TheMamasAndThePapas, Music/JanAndDean, Johnny Rivers, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys. Howe would later reap greater success producing for The Association and The Fifth Dimension. (Technically, on ''It Ain't Me Babe'', Howe was credited for "studio direction'', with the actual producer credits going to Ted Feigin and Lee Lasseff, the label heads of White Whale Records, The Turtles' record label. Howe would finally get full producer credit on ''You, Baby'', again sharing producer credits with Feigin and Lasseff.)

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** The Turtles' first two albums, ''It Ain't Me Babe'' and ''You, Baby'', were the first major producing efforts of Bones Howe, who had already gained some recognition in the music industry for engineering several hits by artists such as Music/TheMamasAndThePapas, Music/JanAndDean, Johnny Rivers, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys. Howe would later reap greater success producing for The Association and The Fifth Dimension. (Technically, on ''It Ain't Me Babe'', Howe was credited for "studio direction'', direction", with the actual producer credits going to Ted Feigin and Lee Lasseff, the label heads of White Whale Records, The Turtles' record label. Howe would finally get full producer credit on ''You, Baby'', again sharing producer credits with Feigin and Lasseff.)
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** The Turtles' first two albums, ''It Ain't Me Babe'' and ''You, Baby'', were the first major producing efforts of Bones Howe, who had already gained some recognition in the music industry for engineering several hits by artists such as Music/TheMamasAndThePapas, Music/JanAndDean, Johnny Rivers, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys. Howe would later reap greater success producing for The Association and The Fifth Dimension.

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** The Turtles' first two albums, ''It Ain't Me Babe'' and ''You, Baby'', were the first major producing efforts of Bones Howe, who had already gained some recognition in the music industry for engineering several hits by artists such as Music/TheMamasAndThePapas, Music/JanAndDean, Johnny Rivers, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys. Howe would later reap greater success producing for The Association and The Fifth Dimension. (Technically, on ''It Ain't Me Babe'', Howe was credited for "studio direction'', with the actual producer credits going to Ted Feigin and Lee Lasseff, the label heads of White Whale Records, The Turtles' record label. Howe would finally get full producer credit on ''You, Baby'', again sharing producer credits with Feigin and Lasseff.)
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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be", the former with longtime writing partner Steve Barri. Amusingly, "You Baby" is itself a cover. It was originally first recorded as an unreleased track by The Vogues, before Music/TheMamasAndThePapas and The Grass Roots recorded it as an album track on their respective debut albums, the former using the original instrumental track and recording a new vocal track over The Vogues.)

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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be", the former with longtime writing partner Steve Barri. Amusingly, "You Baby" is itself a cover. It was originally first recorded as an unreleased track by The Vogues, before Music/TheMamasAndThePapas and The Grass Roots recorded it as an album track on their respective debut albums, the former both groups using the original instrumental track and recording a new vocal track over The Vogues.)
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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be", the former with longtime writing partner Steve Barri. Amusingly, "You Baby" is itself a cover. It was originally first recorded as an unreleased track by The Vogues, before Music/TheMamasAndThePapas recorded it as an album track on their debut album, using the original instrumental track and recording a new vocal track over The Vogues.)
* BrokenPedestal: Jim Tucker left the group after they had an unpleasant encounter with Music/JohnLennon, who he idolized, at a London nightclub in 1967.

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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be", the former with longtime writing partner Steve Barri. Amusingly, "You Baby" is itself a cover. It was originally first recorded as an unreleased track by The Vogues, before Music/TheMamasAndThePapas and The Grass Roots recorded it as an album track on their respective debut album, albums, the former using the original instrumental track and recording a new vocal track over The Vogues.)
* BrokenPedestal: According to Howard Kaylan, Jim Tucker left the group after they had an unpleasant encounter with Music/JohnLennon, who he idolized, at a London nightclub in 1967.1967. Amusingly, however, Tucker himself claims that he simply left due to burnout from constantly touring and recording new material.

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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be".)

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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be".Be", the former with longtime writing partner Steve Barri. Amusingly, "You Baby" is itself a cover. It was originally first recorded as an unreleased track by The Vogues, before Music/TheMamasAndThePapas recorded it as an album track on their debut album, using the original instrumental track and recording a new vocal track over The Vogues.)



* RecordProducer: Bassist Chip Douglas left in 1967 to become one of these for Music/TheMonkees, although he'd return to produce ''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands''.

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** The Turtles' first two albums, ''It Ain't Me Babe'' and ''You, Baby'', were the first major producing efforts of Bones Howe, who had already gained some recognition in the music industry for engineering several hits by artists such as Music/TheMamasAndThePapas, Music/JanAndDean, Johnny Rivers, and Gary Lewis & the Playboys. Howe would later reap greater success producing for The Association and The Fifth Dimension.
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Bassist Chip Douglas left in 1967 to become one of these for Music/TheMonkees, although he'd return to produce ''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands''.

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* LongestSongGoesLast:
** "Like a Rolling Stone" on ''It Ain't Me Babe'' (3:10)
** "Rugs of Woods and Flowers" on ''Happy Together'' (3:00)
** "Earth Anthem" on ''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands'' (3:53)
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* TheBigGuy: Mark Volman.
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Kaylan and Volman first met in chorus class in high school, and over 50 years later still maintain a professional music partnership.

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* SuddenNameChange: After building a following in Southern California as The Crossfires, when they signed a record contract their manager told them to become The Turtles, since it was close to Music/TheBeatles and would make people think they were British instead of American, which didn't hurt back in 1965.

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After building a following in Southern California as The Crossfires, when they signed a record contract their manager told them to become The Turtles, since it was close to Music/TheBeatles and would make people think they were British instead of American, which didn't hurt back in 1965. 1965.
** When they were with Zappa, Kaylan was The Phlorescent Leech and Volman was Eddie. When they released ''The Phlorescent Leech & Eddie'' in 1972, the cover photo had Volman on the left and Kaylan on the right, making it look like Volman should be The Phlorescent Leech, so they went ahead and switched identities.

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* John Seiner - drums (1969–70)

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* John Seiner Seiter - drums (1969–70)


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* BrokenPedestal: Jim Tucker left the group after they had an unpleasant encounter with Music/JohnLennon, who he idolized, at a London nightclub in 1967.
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* RevolvingDoorBand: Kaylan and Volman were there from beginning to end, but there was a lot of turnover among the other musicians.

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* RevolvingDoorBand: Kaylan and Kaylan, Volman and Nichol were there from beginning to end, but there was a lot of turnover among the other musicians.
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* LongTitle: "Who Would Ever Think That I Would Marry Margaret".
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* 1968 - ''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands''

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* 1968 - ''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands''''Music/TheTurtlesPresentTheBattleOfTheBands''

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* GroupieBrigade: In his autobiography Howard Kaylan makes clear that even though he and Volman didn't possess teen idol looks, they still attracted plenty of groupies in the band's heyday.

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* GroupieBrigade: In his autobiography Howard Kaylan makes clear that even though he and Volman didn't [[KavorkaMan possess teen idol looks, looks]], they still attracted plenty of groupies in the band's heyday.


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* RearrangeTheSong: In their later career as Flo & Eddie, Volman and Kaylan recorded a faster, punchier rendition of "Elenore" and a {{Reggae}} version of "Happy Together".
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* RedOniBlueOni: Volman (red) would run around the stage doing antics while Kaylan (blue) would stay at the mic doing his lead vocal and act like he didn't notice.


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* YoungerThanTheyLook: When "Happy Together" hit #1, Kaylan and Volman were both 19, but Kaylan could've passed for 30 and Volman for mid-20s.

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* GenreShift: They started out as a GarageRock[=/=]SurfRock band called the Crossfires, before going into the folk rock/pop direction that made them famous.

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* GenreShift: They started out as a GarageRock[=/=]SurfRock band called the The Crossfires, before going into the folk rock/pop direction that made them famous.famous.
* GroupieBrigade: In his autobiography Howard Kaylan makes clear that even though he and Volman didn't possess teen idol looks, they still attracted plenty of groupies in the band's heyday.


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* MyNaymeIs: A very literal case when Howard Kaplan decided to change his last name to Kaylan.


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* SuddenNameChange: After building a following in Southern California as The Crossfires, when they signed a record contract their manager told them to become The Turtles, since it was close to Music/TheBeatles and would make people think they were British instead of American, which didn't hurt back in 1965.
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* SelfPlagiarism: "You Don't Have to Walk in the Rain" is an obvious musical rewrite of "Elenore".
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* CoverVersion:CoverVersion: While they wrote a lot of their own material, "Elenore" was their only self-composed major hit.



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* FatAndSkinny: Kaylan and Volman (especially after they became Flo and Eddie).

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* FatAndSkinny: Volman (fat) and Kaylan and Volman (especially (skinny), especially after they became Flo and Eddie).Eddie.
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The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for their hit songs including "Happy Together", "She'd Rather Be With Me", "Elenore", "You Showed Me", and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me Babe".

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The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for their hit songs including "Happy Together", "She'd Rather Be With Me", "Elenore", "You Showed Me", "Elenore", and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me Babe".
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The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for the hit songs "Happy Together", "She'd Rather Be With Me", "Elenore", "You Showed Me", and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me Babe".

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The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for the their hit songs including "Happy Together", "She'd Rather Be With Me", "Elenore", "You Showed Me", and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me Babe".
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* RecordProducer: Bassist Chip Douglas left in 1967 to become one of these for Music/TheMonkees, although he'd return to produce ''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands'' for his old bandmates.

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* RecordProducer: Bassist Chip Douglas left in 1967 to become one of these for Music/TheMonkees, although he'd return to produce ''The Turtles Present the Battle of the Bands'' for his old bandmates.Bands''.
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* TurtlePower: It's in the band's name. Their last studio album was titled ''Turtle Soup.''

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* TurtlePower: It's in the band's name. Their last original studio album was titled ''Turtle Soup.''
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* 1970 - ''Wooden Head''

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* 1970 - ''Wooden Head''
Head'' (a collection of previously-unreleased stray tracks from earlier in their career)
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* SillyLoveSongs: "You Showed Me," "She'd Rather Be With Me". "Happy Together" brings the trope into conscious self-parody.

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* SillyLoveSongs: "You Showed Me," "She'd Rather Be With Me". "Happy Together" brings the trope into conscious self-parody.self-parody, "Elenore" even more so.
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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s recording was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles' version was actually recorded and released first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be".)

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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s recording version was a bigger hit and is much better known now, the Turtles' version was Turtles actually recorded and released the song first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be".)
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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s recording was a bigger hit and much better known, the Turtles' version was actually recorded and released first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be".)

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** Inverted with "Eve of Destruction". While Barry [=McGuire=]'s recording was a bigger hit and is much better known, known now, the Turtles' version was actually recorded and released first. (Its composer, P.F. Sloan, penned several other songs for them, including the hits "You Baby" and "Let Me Be".)
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The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for the songs "Happy Together," "You Showed Me," "Elenore" and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me, Babe."

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The Turtles are a folk-rock band from UsefulNotes/LosAngeles that formed in 1965 and originally ran through 1970. They were headed by Howard Kaylan and Mark Volman (later known as Flo & Eddie) and are best known for the hit songs "Happy Together," Together", "She'd Rather Be With Me", "Elenore", "You Showed Me," "Elenore" Me", and a {{Cover|Version}} of Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me, Babe."
Me Babe".



** They famously CoveredUp Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me, Babe" for their first hit.

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** They famously CoveredUp Music/BobDylan's "It Ain't Me, Me Babe" for their first hit.

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