History Music / TheSmiths

27th Feb '16 2:19:49 AM aye_amber
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* UnrequitedLove: A recurring lyrical theme, often going straight into ObsessionSong territory. Examples include "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "I Want The One I Can't Have", and "I Know It's Over."

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* UnrequitedLove: {{Unrequited Love|Tropes}}: A recurring lyrical theme, often going straight into ObsessionSong territory. Examples include "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "I Want The One I Can't Have", and "I Know It's Over."
5th Jan '16 9:11:08 PM spirasen
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[LongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
* WholesomeCrossdresser: The title character of "Vicar In A Tutu."
* WordSaladTitle: The band named themselves "the Smiths" as a [[AvertedTrope reaction against]] the word salad band names of their contemporaries.
* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder'', as Morrisey supports PETA and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Both Morrissey and Marr have forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron from listening to The Smiths.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[LongList a wide range of 'reasons']] ''reasons,'']] both Marr and Morrissey Morrissey, state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
* WholesomeCrossdresser: The title character of "Vicar In A in a Tutu."
* WordSaladTitle: The band named themselves "the "The Smiths" as a [[AvertedTrope reaction reaction, against]] the word salad band names of their contemporaries.
* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder'', Murder,'' as Morrisey Morrissey supports PETA PETA, and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band band, seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well well, and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Both Morrissey and Marr have Marr, forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron Cameron, from listening to The Smiths.
26th Feb '15 12:40:36 AM Elusivehawk
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->''So, I broke into the palace\\

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->''So, ->''"So, I broke into the palace\\



She said: "Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"\\
I said: "That's nothing - you should hear me play piano.''"

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She said: "Eh, 'Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"\\
sing'\\
I said: "That's 'That's nothing - you should hear me play piano.''"'"''
16th Feb '15 6:55:31 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[OverlyLongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[OverlyLongList [[LongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
16th Feb '15 6:54:55 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[OverlyLongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
7th Dec '14 12:23:31 PM Patachou
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* SerialKiller: The song "Suffer Little Children" was written about RealLife killers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Morrissey's fascination with serial killers continued in his solo career with songs like "JackTheRipper."

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* SerialKiller: The song "Suffer Little Children" was written about RealLife killers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Morrissey's fascination with serial killers continued in his solo career with songs like "JackTheRipper."UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper."
30th Nov '14 6:26:39 PM DavidDelony
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* RecursiveImport: ''Louder Than Bombs'' was initially released in America, but Rough Trade issued it in the U.K. a few months after the release of ''The World Won't Listen'' simply to save obsessive fans from having to pay high import prices. It retailed for the price of a single LP despite being a double album, though some fans [[UnpleasableFanbase did complain]] about having to pay twice for what was essentially the same thing.
5th Oct '14 11:41:54 PM ThornBrain
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* AlliterativeTitle: "Death of a Disco Dancer", "Meat is Murder", "Rubber Ring", "Rushholme Ruffians", "Shakespeare's Sister", "These Things Take Time", "Well I Wonder", "What's the World", "Wonderful Woman".

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* AlliterativeTitle: AlliterativeTitle:
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"Death of a Disco Dancer", "Meat is Murder", "Rubber Ring", "Rushholme Ruffians", "Shakespeare's Sister", "These Things Take Time", "Well I Wonder", "What's the World", "Wonderful Woman".



* BlackSheepHit: Their best known song, "How Soon Is Now?", doesn't sound like their usual jangly style - it's more dance-rock.



* CoverVersion: "Work Is a Four-Letter Word" by Cilla Black and "Golden Lights" by {{Twinkle}} are infamous for incensing Johnny Marr to the point that he left the band, leading to their breakup.

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* CoverVersion: "Work Is a Four-Letter Word" by Cilla Black and "Golden Lights" by {{Twinkle}} Music/{{Twinkle}} are infamous for incensing Johnny Marr to the point that he left the band, leading to their breakup.



* DeadpanSnarker: Morrissey is notable RealLife example of this.

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* DeadpanSnarker: Morrissey is notable a RealLife example of this.



* DumbassDJ: "Panic" was inspired by one at the BBC who played Wham's "I'm Your Man" after announcing the Chernobyl disaster, namely Steve Wright.

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* DumbassDJ: "Panic" was inspired by one Steve Wright at the BBC BBC, who played Wham's "I'm Your Man" after announcing the Chernobyl disaster, namely Steve Wright.disaster.



* EpicRocking: "How Soon Is Now?", "The Queen Is Dead" and "Barbarism Begins At Home" all exceed the 6-minute mark.
** By album:
*** The Smiths Reel Around The Fountain (5:58) and Suffer Little Children (5:28)
*** Meat Is Murder: Barbarism Begins At Home (6:57) and the title track (6:06)
*** The Queen Is Dead: The title track (6:24) and I Know It's Over (5:48)
*** Strangeways, Here We Come: Death Of A Disco Dancer (5:26), Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (5:01), Paint A Vulgar Picture (5:35)
*** Hatful Of Hollow: How Soon Is Now? (6:44), Reel Around The Fountain (5:51, from The Peel Sessions)
*** Rank: Bigmouth Strikes Again (5:51)
*** Neither The World Won't Listen Or Louder Than Bombs have any.
* FakeOutFadeOut: "That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" fades out, then back in before carrying on for another minute and fading out again.

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* EpicRocking: "How Soon Is Now?", "The Queen Is Dead" and "Barbarism Begins At Home" all exceed the 6-minute mark.
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By album:
*** The Smiths ** ''The Smiths'': Reel Around The Fountain (5:58) and Suffer Little Children (5:28)
*** Meat ** ''Meat Is Murder: Murder'': Barbarism Begins At Home (6:57) and the title track (6:06)
*** The ** ''The Queen Is Dead: Dead'': The title track (6:24) and I Know It's Over (5:48)
*** Strangeways, ** ''Strangeways, Here We Come: Come'': Death Of A Disco Dancer (5:26), Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me (5:01), Paint A Vulgar Picture (5:35)
*** Hatful ** ''Hatful Of Hollow: Hollow'': How Soon Is Now? (6:44), Reel Around The Fountain (5:51, from The Peel Sessions)
*** Rank: ** ''Rank'': Bigmouth Strikes Again (5:51)
*** Neither The World Won't Listen Or Louder Than Bombs have any.
* FakeOutFadeOut: FakeOutFadeOut:
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"That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore" fades out, then back in before carrying on for another minute and fading out again.



* IWantSong: "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want"

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* IWantSong: "Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want"Want".



* JustJokingJustification: The aptly titled "Bigmouth Strikes Again." "Sweetness, sweetness, I was only joking when I said I'd like to smash every tooth in your head..."

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* JustJokingJustification: The aptly titled "Bigmouth Strikes Again." "Sweetness, "
-->"Sweetness,
sweetness, I was only joking when I said I'd like to smash every tooth in your head..."



* NewSoundAlbum: ''The Queen is Dead'', which featured more elaborate production than on their previous albums and singles. And then there is ''Strangeways, Here We Come'' which largely abandons the jangle pop sound that they are known for.

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* NewSoundAlbum: NewSoundAlbum:
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''The Queen is Dead'', which featured more elaborate production than on their previous albums and singles. And then there is singles.
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''Strangeways, Here We Come'' which largely abandons the jangle pop sound that they are known for.



* ThePeteBest: Dale Hibbert, their first bass player, was fired after their first gig because Johnny Marr felt he wasn't a good fit for the band. Since he worked at a studio, he was able to help the band record their first demos.



* RealitySubtext: According to Tony Fletcher's bio of the band, ''A Light That Never Goes Out'', "The Headmaster Ritual" was based on an actual daily event of that name at St. Mary's Roman Catholic Secondary Modern, Morrissey's alma mater, where during morning assembly the headmaster would find some minor detail amiss about some child's, say, uniform, call him up to the front and excoriate him for it in front of the entire school, then take him down to his office and give the kid a couple on the bare buttocks with a leather strap. And that was just the ''official'' punishment.



* SixthRanger: Craig Gannon

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* SixthRanger: Second guitarist Craig GannonGannon, who only appeared on the "Panic" and "Ask" singles and the live ''Rank'' album.



* SomethingCompletelyDifferent: ''Strangeways, Here We Come'' opens with the guitarless "A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours."

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* SomethingCompletelyDifferent: SomethingCompletelyDifferent:
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''Strangeways, Here We Come'' opens with the guitarless "A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours."



* StageNames: [[OnlyOneName Morrissey]]'s full name is Steven Patrick Morrissey, and Johnny Marr's real name is John Maher. (The latter changed his name to [[OneSteveLimit avoid confusion with the drummer of the Buzzcocks]].)
** And he chose Johnny Marr because it [[StealthPun sounds like]] the [[GeniusBonus French phrase 'J'en ai marre']], which roughly means 'I'm fed up with it all'.

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* StageNames: [[OnlyOneName Morrissey]]'s full name is Steven Patrick Morrissey, and Johnny Marr's real name is John Maher. (The The latter changed his name to [[OneSteveLimit avoid confusion with the drummer of the Buzzcocks]].)
** And he chose Johnny Marr
Buzzcocks]] and because it [[StealthPun sounds like]] the [[GeniusBonus [[BilingualBonus French phrase 'J'en ai marre']], which roughly means 'I'm fed up with it all'.



* UnrequitedLove: A recurring lyrical theme, often going straight into ObsessionSong territory. Notable examples include "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "I Want The One I Can't Have", and "I Know It's Over."
* UrExample: "How Soon is Now?" might be the UrExample of {{Shoegazing}}
* TechnologyMarchesOn: The line 'and her Walkman started to melt' from "Bigmouth Strikes Again" is often updated by Morrissey in live performances to 'and her iPod started to melt'.

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* UnrequitedLove: A recurring lyrical theme, often going straight into ObsessionSong territory. Notable examples Examples include "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "I Want The One I Can't Have", and "I Know It's Over."
* UrExample: "How Soon is Now?" might be the is an UrExample of {{Shoegazing}}
* TechnologyMarchesOn: The line 'and her Walkman started to melt' from "Bigmouth Strikes Again" is often updated by Morrissey in live performances to 'and her iPod started to melt'.
{{Shoegazing}}.



* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder'' is most likely an example, as Morrisey supports PETA and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Apparently both Morrissey and Marr have forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron from listening to The Smiths.

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* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder'' is most likely an example, Murder'', as Morrisey supports PETA and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Apparently both Both Morrissey and Marr have forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron from listening to The Smiths.
15th Sep '14 7:30:25 PM Crane
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** "Unhappy Birthday" is a prime example, with morbid lyrics made funny by their matter-of fact delivery and anticlimactic nature (the narrator shoots himself halfway through the song, but it keeps going).

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** "Unhappy Birthday" is a prime example, with morbid lyrics made funny by their matter-of fact delivery and anticlimactic nature (the narrator shoots himself halfway through toward the end of the song, but it keeps going).
28th Aug '14 12:16:54 PM DavidDelony
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* NewSoundAlbum: ''The Queen is Dead'', which featured more elaborate production than on their previous albums and singles. And then their is ''Strangeways, Here We Come'' which largely abandons the [[jangle pop]] sound that they are known for.

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* NewSoundAlbum: ''The Queen is Dead'', which featured more elaborate production than on their previous albums and singles. And then their there is ''Strangeways, Here We Come'' which largely abandons the [[jangle pop]] jangle pop sound that they are known for.
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