History Music / TheSmiths

2nd Aug '16 3:36:12 PM DavidDelony
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[[caption-width-right:350: The Smiths in 1986. From left to right: Andy Rourke, Music/{{Morrissey}}, Music/JohnnyMarr, Mike Joyce.]]
6th May '16 10:42:19 PM ThornBrain
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%%* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Morrissey.

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%%* * JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Morrissey.Morrissey had turns of this. He often insulted other artists and pissed people off throughout the band's run, but he also wore a fake hearing aid during the band's 1986 ''Old Grey Whistle Test'' performance to support a hearing-impaired fan who was ashamed of wearing one.
6th May '16 10:30:15 PM ThornBrain
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* AmusingInjuries: "Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before."
* AntiLoveSong: "Unhappy Birthday"

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* AmusingInjuries: The narrator of "Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before."
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Before" injures himself on the crossbar of his bicycle, apparently breaking his spleen and knee.
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AntiLoveSong: "Unhappy Birthday"



* AutoErotica: "You've Got Everything Now"
* BanisterSlide: "Vicar In A Tutu"

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* %%* AutoErotica: "You've Got Everything Now"
* %%* BanisterSlide: "Vicar In A Tutu"



* ClosetKey: "This Charming Man"

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* ClosetKey: "This Charming Man"Man" is about a man's bicycle getting a flat tire, and he's picked up by a passing, charming rich man. They proceed to flirt during the ride, though the protagonist is still hesitant about it.



* CovertPervert: [[FanNickname Moz]] himself.

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* %%* CovertPervert: [[FanNickname Moz]] himself.



* DeanBitterman: "The Headmaster Ritual"
* DoubleEntendre: Too many lyrics to list.

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* %%* DeanBitterman: "The Headmaster Ritual"
* %%* DoubleEntendre: Too many lyrics to list.



-->Oh, so I drank one
-->It became four
-->And when I fell on the floor
-->...I drank more

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-->Oh, -->''Oh, so I drank one
-->It
one''\\
''It
became four
-->And
four''\\
''And
when I fell on the floor
-->...
floor''\\
''...
I drank more more''



* DudeShesLikeInAComa: "Girlfriend in a coma, I know, I know, it's really serious." Alternate trope title.



* {{Gayngst}}

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* %%* {{Gayngst}}



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Morrissey.

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* %%* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Morrissey.



* MadLove: A theme in some of their songs.

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* %%* MadLove: A theme in some of their songs.



* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: The Smiths never went very high up it, pushing a 3-4 at most in their most aggressive moments- the lyrics were where the darkness was, not the music. However, when asked in an [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/johnny-marr-has-no-negative-thoughts-about-the-smi,73276/ AV Club interview]], Johnny Marr [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] the trope by mentioning how he felt that bands that drew inspiration from the Smiths like Belle and Sebastian were too lightweight compared to them:
-->Iíve heard some records by bands that came after us who had their music been any more fey and lightweight, then Iíd expect petals to come out of the speakers. [Laughs.] Thatís kind of missing what we were about, because The Smiths were not all ďOscar Wilde at 3:30 in the afternoonĒ and feyness. The truth of it is, if you were to see any songs from any of our shows, we were, what I would say, quite heavy. Even the ballads were intense. We were a rock band, really, that played a type of pop music, if I care to analyze it. I donít know very much about The Wedding Presentís music, but what Iíve heard of Belle & Sebastian was often quite fey, and light in a very deliberate way. I think they have their own thing, which is absolutely fine. But I donít actually think they sound like The Smiths.
** "How Soon is Now?" is probably a 5 or 6
* MoneySong: "Frankly, Mr. Shankly".

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* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: The Smiths never went very high up it, pushing a 3-4 at most in their most aggressive moments- moments and 5-6 for "How Soon is Now?" - the lyrics were where the darkness was, not the music. However, when asked in an [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/johnny-marr-has-no-negative-thoughts-about-the-smi,73276/ AV Club interview]], Johnny Marr [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] the trope by mentioning how he felt that bands that drew inspiration from the Smiths like Belle and Sebastian were too lightweight compared to them:
-->Iíve -->"Iíve heard some records by bands that came after us who had their music been any more fey and lightweight, then Iíd expect petals to come out of the speakers. [Laughs.] Thatís kind of missing what we were about, because The Smiths were not all ďOscar Wilde at 3:30 in the afternoonĒ and feyness. The truth of it is, if you were to see any songs from any of our shows, we were, what I would say, quite heavy. Even the ballads were intense. We were a rock band, really, that played a type of pop music, if I care to analyze it. I donít know very much about The Wedding Presentís music, but what Iíve heard of Belle & Sebastian was often quite fey, and light in a very deliberate way. I think they have their own thing, which is absolutely fine. But I donít actually think they sound like The Smiths.
** "How Soon is Now?" is probably a 5 or 6
*
Smiths."
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MoneySong: "Frankly, Mr. Shankly".



--> I wish I could remember exactly how we did the slide part -- not writing it down is one of the banes of my life! We did it in three passes through a harmonizer, set to some weird interval, like a sixth. There was a different harmonization for each pass. For the line in harmonics, I retuned the guitar so that I could play it all at the 12th fret with natural harmonics. It's doubled several times.

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--> I "I wish I could remember exactly how we did the slide part -- not writing it down is one of the banes of my life! We did it in three passes through a harmonizer, set to some weird interval, like a sixth. There was a different harmonization for each pass. For the line in harmonics, I retuned the guitar so that I could play it all at the 12th fret with natural harmonics. It's doubled several times."



* ObsessionSong: "Paint a Vulgar Picture"

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* %%* ObsessionSong: "Paint a Vulgar Picture"



* OopNorth
* ProtestSong: "The Headmaster Ritual", "Meat Is Murder", and "Barbarism Begins At Home"

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* OopNorth
OopNorth: One of Manchester's beloved musical exports.
* ProtestSong: ProtestSong:
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"The Headmaster Ritual", "Meat Is Murder", Ritual" and "Barbarism Begins At Home"Home" against child abuse, the former by teachers and the latter by parents.
** "Meat Is Murder" against animal slaughter.



* SmallNameBigEgo: Morrissey.
* SmokingIsCool: Admit it, Johnny looked pretty damn cool with a cigarette.

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* SmallNameBigEgo: Morrissey.
Morrissey was mouthy and pissed off a lot of music industry people all throughout The Smiths' rise in popularity.
* SmokingIsCool: Admit it, Johnny looked pretty damn cool with a cigarette.



* ThreeChordsAndTheTruth: To an extent. The band's music was generally intricate and melodic but the emphasis on guitar-based rock was a reaction against synthesizer-heavy Eighties pop music.

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* SuspiciouslySpecificDenial: The narrator of "Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This One Before" names off some of the injuries he received from his bicycle accident, then follows them with "Who said I lied to her?/Because I never".
* ThreeChordsAndTheTruth: To an extent. The band's music was generally intricate and melodic melodic, but the emphasis on guitar-based rock was a reaction against synthesizer-heavy Eighties pop music.



* WordSaladTitle: The band named themselves "The Smiths" as a [[AvertedTrope reaction, against]] the word salad band names of their contemporaries.
* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder,'' as Morrissey supports PETA, and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band, seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well, and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Both Morrissey and Marr, forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron, from listening to The Smiths.

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* WordSaladTitle: The band named themselves "The Smiths" as a [[AvertedTrope reaction, reaction against]] the word salad band names of their contemporaries.
* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder,'' as Morrissey supports PETA, and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band, band seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well, well and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Both Morrissey and Marr, Marr forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron, Cameron from listening to The Smiths.
27th Feb '16 2:19:49 AM aye_amber
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* UnrequitedLove: A recurring lyrical theme, often going straight into ObsessionSong territory. Examples include "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "I Want The One I Can't Have", and "I Know It's Over."

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* UnrequitedLove: {{Unrequited Love|Tropes}}: A recurring lyrical theme, often going straight into ObsessionSong territory. Examples include "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "I Want The One I Can't Have", and "I Know It's Over."
5th Jan '16 9:11:08 PM spirasen
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[LongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
* WholesomeCrossdresser: The title character of "Vicar In A Tutu."
* WordSaladTitle: The band named themselves "the Smiths" as a [[AvertedTrope reaction against]] the word salad band names of their contemporaries.
* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder'', as Morrisey supports PETA and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Both Morrissey and Marr have forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron from listening to The Smiths.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[LongList a wide range of 'reasons']] ''reasons,'']] both Marr and Morrissey Morrissey, state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
* WholesomeCrossdresser: The title character of "Vicar In A in a Tutu."
* WordSaladTitle: The band named themselves "the "The Smiths" as a [[AvertedTrope reaction reaction, against]] the word salad band names of their contemporaries.
* WriterOnBoard: ''Meat is Murder'', Murder,'' as Morrisey Morrissey supports PETA PETA, and has stated he accepts the violent actions of {{Animal Wrongs Group}}s. Based on interviews they've given, the rest of the band band, seems to have reacted to his fervency with mild exasperation, but they are all vegetarians as well well, and avoid animal products.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: Both Morrissey and Marr have Marr, forbade the Prime Minister David Cameron Cameron, from listening to The Smiths.
26th Feb '15 12:40:36 AM Elusivehawk
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->''So, I broke into the palace\\

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->''So, ->''"So, I broke into the palace\\



She said: "Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"\\
I said: "That's nothing - you should hear me play piano.''"

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She said: "Eh, 'Eh, I know you, and you cannot sing"\\
sing'\\
I said: "That's 'That's nothing - you should hear me play piano.''"'"''
16th Feb '15 6:55:31 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[OverlyLongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[OverlyLongList [[LongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
16th Feb '15 6:54:55 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: This seems to be the case with Morrissey and Johnny Marr, and is often cited one of the reasons The Smiths broke up to begin with, and one of the other reasons why the Smiths won't have a reunion. That and [[OverlyLongList a wide range of 'reasons']] both Marr and Morrissey state every time speculation of a reunion is said.
7th Dec '14 12:23:31 PM Patachou
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* SerialKiller: The song "Suffer Little Children" was written about RealLife killers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Morrissey's fascination with serial killers continued in his solo career with songs like "JackTheRipper."

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* SerialKiller: The song "Suffer Little Children" was written about RealLife killers Ian Brady and Myra Hindley. Morrissey's fascination with serial killers continued in his solo career with songs like "JackTheRipper."UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper."
30th Nov '14 6:26:39 PM DavidDelony
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* RecursiveImport: ''Louder Than Bombs'' was initially released in America, but Rough Trade issued it in the U.K. a few months after the release of ''The World Won't Listen'' simply to save obsessive fans from having to pay high import prices. It retailed for the price of a single LP despite being a double album, though some fans [[UnpleasableFanbase did complain]] about having to pay twice for what was essentially the same thing.
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