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* AnimalMotifs: Billy was knowing for breeding whippets as a hobby, and as such dogs are referenced quite frequently in his lyrics.



* AuthorAppeal: Billy bred whippets as a hobby, and as such dogs are referenced quite frequently in his lyrics.
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* AuthorAppeal: Billy bred whippets as a hobby, and as such dogs are referenced quite frequently in his lyrics.
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Their debut single was a cover of Music/DavidBowie's "Boys Keep Swinging". It attracted a good deal of attention, allegedly including Bowie himself. Two years later, and, after recording their debut album (which had backing vocals by Robert Smith of Music/TheCure), released seven singles, in a quick succession, which was remarkable for that time.

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Their debut single was a cover of Music/DavidBowie's "Boys Keep Swinging". It attracted a good deal of attention, allegedly including Bowie himself. Two years later, and, after recording their debut album (which had backing vocals by Robert Smith of Music/TheCure), Music/{{The Cure|Band}}), released seven singles, in a quick succession, which was remarkable for that time.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Billy Mackenzie and Alan Rankine]]

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Rankine take a swim, as seen on the cover of ''Fourth Drawer Down''.]]



In 1997, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with Music/BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.

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In 1997, Mackenzie committed suicide UsefulNotes/{{Suicide}} at the age of 39, shortly after a result of his mother's recent death and his struggle with clinical depression.UsefulNotes/{{Depression}}. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with Music/BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.
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* BiTheWay: Billy.
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* UsefulNotes/{{Roma|ni}}: Billy's father was one, which probably helped explain his erratic behaviour.

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* ''Fourth Drawer Down'' (a compilation of seven singles released throughout 1981)

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* ''Fourth Drawer Down'' (a compilation of seven singles and b-sides released throughout 1981)


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* CarefulWithThatAxe: Billy, frequently.


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* IAmTheBand: Billy after Alan's departure.
* LighterAndSofter: ''Perhaps'' brought in a much poppier, less experimental sound than previous albums.


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* OneWomanWail: Well, not ''woman'', but Billy was prone to doing this (and sounding like it too!) in his vocals, most notably at the end of "Party Fears Two".

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* TheCameo: Billy himself makes one in the music video for "Mint Car" by Music/TheCure.


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* SynthPop: Pretty much everything after their first album counts as this, although ''Fourth Drawer Down'' and ''Sulk'' are much more experimental than your average synthpop album.
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* TheCameo: Billy himself makes one in the music video for "Mint Car" by Music/TheCure.
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The Associates were a {{PostPunk}} band formed in Dundee, UsefulNotes/{{Scotland}}, by singer Billy Mackenzie and guitarrist/arranger Alan Rankine. Their songs marked part of the shift from Post-Punk towards its "phase two", New Pop (which comprised names like Music/{{ABC}} and Music/FrankieGoesToHollywood.

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The Associates were a {{PostPunk}} band formed in Dundee, UsefulNotes/{{Scotland}}, by singer Billy Mackenzie and guitarrist/arranger guitarist/arranger Alan Rankine. Their songs marked part of the shift from Post-Punk towards its "phase two", New Pop (which comprised names like Music/{{ABC}} and Music/FrankieGoesToHollywood.



Their entry into the top charts came, however, with the album ''Sulk'', a luxurious album which spawned singles like "Club Country" and "Party Fears Two". Billy Mackenzie's campy (but dignified) vocals and Rankine's amazing production and guitar playing skills were what always set The Associates apart from the majority of the Post-Punk bands. Martha from Martha & The Muffins also contributed to the album with keyboards and backing vocals.

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Their entry into the top charts came, however, with the album ''Sulk'', a luxurious album which spawned singles like "Club Country" and "Party Fears Two". Billy Mackenzie's often campy (but dignified) vocals vocals, impressive vocal range, and Rankine's amazing production and guitar playing skills were what always set The Associates apart from the majority of the Post-Punk bands. Martha from Martha & The Muffins also contributed to the album with keyboards and backing vocals.
vocals, while bass was played by Michael Dempsey of The Cure.

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Discography:

''Studio Albums''

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Discography:

''Studio Albums''
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* ''Fourth Drawer Down'' (the compilation of the seven singles released in 1981)

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* ''Fourth Drawer Down'' (the (a compilation of the seven singles released in throughout 1981)



* ''The Glamour Chase'' (1988) (Unreleased until 2003)

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* ''The Glamour Chase'' (1988) (Unreleased (recorded in 1988, unreleased until 2003)
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They released two more albums ([[ExecutiveMeddling one was unreleased by the label, who thought it wasn't commercial enough]]), but, while still having some good songs, it didn't had the same impact and the band ended in 1990, after the release of ''Wild And Lonely''. Two years after, Billy's debut solo album, ''Outernational'', got released. Billy and Rankine briefly got together in 1993 to make new material, but constant speculation of a reunion tour caused Billy to get reluctant again and they split for the final time.

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They released recorded two more albums ([[ExecutiveMeddling one was unreleased by the label, who thought it wasn't commercial enough]]), but, while the group still having had some good songs, it they didn't had the same impact and the band ended in 1990, after the release of ''Wild And Lonely''. Two years after, Billy's debut solo album, ''Outernational'', got released. Billy and Rankine briefly got together in 1993 to make new material, but constant speculation of a reunion tour caused Billy to get reluctant again and they split for the final time.



!!Tropes associated with the band:
* AnswerSong: "Stephen, You're Really Something" was Billy's response to Music/{{The Smiths}}'s "William, It Was Really Nothing", co-written by Stephen Music/{{Morrissey}}.

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* AnswerSong: "Stephen, You're Really Something" was Billy's response to Music/{{The Smiths}}'s Smiths}}' "William, It Was Really Nothing", co-written by Stephen Music/{{Morrissey}}.
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In the final years of the group, Billy also collaborated with Yello and Music/ShirleyBassey.

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In the final years of the group, Billy also collaborated with Yello Music/{{Yello}} and Music/ShirleyBassey.

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* BiTheWay: Billy

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* BiTheWay: BillyBilly.



* EverythingIsAnInstrument: Sort of. [[WordOfGod According to Alan]], they used to do a thing called balloon guitar, where they'd fill a balloon with water until it was the size of a fairly small breast, and then, by holding it with a hand, it would be used on the strings in order to control the feedback coming from the amplifier.

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* DownerEnding: Billy's suicide in 1997 at the too-young age of 39.
* EverythingIsAnInstrument: Sort of. [[WordOfGod According to Alan]], they used to do a thing called balloon guitar, where they'd fill a balloon with water until it was the size of a fairly small breast, and then, by holding it with a hand, it would be used on the strings in order to control the feedback coming from the amplifier. They also infamously urinated in an acoustic guitar and filled the drum kit with water and recorded the resulting sound that the instruments made.


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* WordSaladLyrics: And ''how''. It often seems like Billy is trying to say... ''something'' but it's very hard to tell what.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Coupled with a heavy dose of TearJerker. On ''Sulk'', there is a cover of "Gloomy Sunday", a famous and oft-covered song from the 1930s composed by the Hungarian pianist Rezso Seress, done most famously by Billie Holliday in 1941. It's also infamously known as the "Hungarian Suicide Song", due to an urban legend that it was responsible for a spate of suicides in Hungary in the 1930s after it was released. [[note]] However these suicides were more likely caused by the famine and poverty in Hungary at the time [[/note]][[spoiler: Guess what happened to Billy?]]

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In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with Music/BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.

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In 1995, 1997, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with Music/BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.


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* BiTheWay: Billy


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* HarsherInHindsight: Coupled with a heavy dose of TearJerker. On ''Sulk'', there is a cover of "Gloomy Sunday", a famous and oft-covered song from the 1930s composed by the Hungarian pianist Rezso Seress, done most famously by Billie Holliday in 1941. It's also infamously known as the "Hungarian Suicide Song", due to an urban legend that it was responsible for a spate of suicides in Hungary in the 1930s after it was released. [[note]] However these suicides were more likely caused by the famine and poverty in Hungary at the time [[/note]][[spoiler: Guess what happened to Billy?]]

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* AnswerSong: "Stephen, You're Really Something" was Billy's response to Music/{{The Smiths}}'s "William, It Was Really Nothing", co-written by Stephen Music/{{Morrissey}}.



* AnswerSong: "Stephen, You're Really Something" was Billy's response to Music/{{The Smiths}}'s "William, It Was Really Nothing", co-written by Stephen Music/{{Morrissey}}.

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* AnswerSong: "Stephen, You're Really Something" was Billy's response to Music/{{The Smiths}}'s "William, It Was Really Nothing", co-written by Stephen Music/{{Morrissey}}.



* SecretRelationship: "18 Carat Love Affair" is about a (possibly gay) love affair and the protagonist (Billy) trying to hide that from everyone else. In real life, he kept his affairs (romantic and sexual) with both men and women in private and seperately (in terms of time and even in terms of geography).

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* SecretRelationship: "18 Carat Love Affair" is about a (possibly gay) love affair and the protagonist (Billy) trying to hide that from everyone else. In real life, he kept his affairs (romantic and sexual) with both men and women in private and seperately separately (in terms of time and even in terms of geography).
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* EverythingIsAnInstrument: Sort of. [[WordOfGod According to Alan]], they used to do a thing called ballon guitar, where they'd fill a balloon with water until it was the size of a fairly small breast, and then, by holding it with a hand, it would be used on the strings in order to control the feedback coming from the amplifier.

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* EverythingIsAnInstrument: Sort of. [[WordOfGod According to Alan]], they used to do a thing called ballon balloon guitar, where they'd fill a balloon with water until it was the size of a fairly small breast, and then, by holding it with a hand, it would be used on the strings in order to control the feedback coming from the amplifier.
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In the final years of the group, Billy also collaborated with Yello and Shirley Bassey.

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In the final years of the group, Billy also collaborated with Yello and Shirley Bassey.
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The Associates were a {{PostPunk}} band formed in Dundee, Scotland, by singer Billy Mackenzie and guitarrist/arranger Alan Rankine. Their songs marked part of the shift from Post-Punk towards its "phase two", New Pop (which comprised names like Music/{{ABC}} and Music/FrankieGoesToHollywood.

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The Associates were a {{PostPunk}} band formed in Dundee, Scotland, UsefulNotes/{{Scotland}}, by singer Billy Mackenzie and guitarrist/arranger Alan Rankine. Their songs marked part of the shift from Post-Punk towards its "phase two", New Pop (which comprised names like Music/{{ABC}} and Music/FrankieGoesToHollywood.

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* EverythingIsAnInstrument: Sort of. [[WordOfGod According to Alan]], they used to do a thing called ballon guitar, where they'd fill a balloon with water until it was the size of a fairly small breast, and then, by holding it with a hand, it would be used on the strings in order to control the feedback coming from the amplifier.



* ShoutOut: "White Car In Germany" is this to Music/{{Kraftwerk}} and Conny Plank (especially in terms of sound).

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* SecretRelationship: "18 Carat Love Affair" is about a (possibly gay) love affair and the protagonist (Billy) trying to hide that from everyone else. In real life, he kept his affairs (romantic and sexual) with both men and women in private and seperately (in terms of time and even in terms of geography).
* ShoutOut: "White Car In Germany" is this to Music/{{Kraftwerk}} and Conny Plank (especially in terms of sound).
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In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.

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In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with BelleAndSebastian Music/BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.
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* TakeThat: "Club Country" is considered to be this to the New Romantic scene at the Blitz's.

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* TakeThat: "Club Country" is considered to be this to the New Romantic scene at the Blitz's.Blitz's.
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* TakeThat: "Club Country" is considered this to the New Romantic scene at the Blitz's.

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* TakeThat: "Club Country" is considered to be this to the New Romantic scene at the Blitz's.
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* ShoutOut: "White Car In Germany" is this to Music/{{Kraftwerk}} and Conny Plank (specially in terms of sound).

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* ShoutOut: "White Car In Germany" is this to Music/{{Kraftwerk}} and Conny Plank (specially (especially in terms of sound).
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* {{Roma}}: Billy's father was one, which probably helped explain his erratic behaviour.

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* {{Roma}}: UsefulNotes/{{Roma|ni}}: Billy's father was one, which probably helped explain his erratic behaviour.
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In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''

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In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''
''Tigermilk''.
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In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.

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In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.
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[[caption-width-right:350:Billy Mackenzie and Alan Rankine]]

The Associates were a {{PostPunk}} band formed in Dundee, Scotland, by singer Billy Mackenzie and guitarrist/arranger Alan Rankine. Their songs marked part of the shift from Post-Punk towards its "phase two", New Pop (which comprised names like Music/{{ABC}} and Music/FrankieGoesToHollywood.

Their debut single was a cover of Music/DavidBowie's "Boys Keep Swinging". It attracted a good deal of attention, allegedly including Bowie himself. Two years later, and, after recording their debut album (which had backing vocals by Robert Smith of Music/TheCure), released seven singles, in a quick succession, which was remarkable for that time.

Their entry into the top charts came, however, with the album ''Sulk'', a luxurious album which spawned singles like "Club Country" and "Party Fears Two". Billy Mackenzie's campy (but dignified) vocals and Rankine's amazing production and guitar playing skills were what always set The Associates apart from the majority of the Post-Punk bands. Martha from Martha & The Muffins also contributed to the album with keyboards and backing vocals.

However, Billy's erratic behaviour (which included cruising for hours and missing his passport so he didn't have to perform at certain talk-shows, especially outside the UK), along with drug use and reluctance on his part to tour America led to Rankine leaving the group.

They released two more albums ([[ExecutiveMeddling one was unreleased by the label, who thought it wasn't commercial enough]]), but, while still having some good songs, it didn't had the same impact and the band ended in 1990, after the release of ''Wild And Lonely''. Two years after, Billy's debut solo album, ''Outernational'', got released. Billy and Rankine briefly got together in 1993 to make new material, but constant speculation of a reunion tour caused Billy to get reluctant again and they split for the final time.

In the final years of the group, Billy also collaborated with Yello and Shirley Bassey.

In 1995, Mackenzie committed suicide at the age of 39, shortly after his mother's death and his struggle with clinical depression. Rankine became a lecturer in music and also collaborated with BelleAndSebastian on ''Tigermilk''.

Discography:

''Studio Albums''
* ''The Affectionate Punch'' (1980)
* ''Fourth Drawer Down'' (the compilation of the seven singles released in 1981)
* ''Sulk'' (1982)
* ''Perhaps'' (1985)
* ''The Glamour Chase'' (1988) (Unreleased until 2003)
* ''Wild And Lonely'' (1990)

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* {{Camp}}
* CloudCuckoolander: Billy, obviously.
* HeterosexualLifePartners: Billy and Alan were this till Alan left the group.
* NewSoundAlbum: ''Sulk''.
* PostPunk: Especially in the first two albums.
* {{Roma}}: Billy's father was one, which probably helped explain his erratic behaviour.
* ShoutOut: "White Car In Germany" is this to Music/{{Kraftwerk}} and Conny Plank (specially in terms of sound).
* TakeThat: "Club Country" is considered this to the New Romantic scene at the Blitz's.

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