History Music / SonicYouth

17th Apr '18 3:58:48 PM Malady
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* TakeThat: "Youth Against Fascism" is 3 and a half minutes of Thurston insulting UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush (''Yeah, the president sucks/He's a war pig fuck/His shit's out of luck'' etc. etc.), "Kim Gordon and the Arthur Doyle Hand Cream" lampoons MariahCarey, "Peace Attack" is a mellower but still pretty ripshit pissed indictment of UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush. "I Killed Christgau With My Big Fucking Dick" is self-explanatory.

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* TakeThat: "Youth Against Fascism" is 3 and a half minutes of Thurston insulting UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush (''Yeah, the president sucks/He's a war pig fuck/His shit's out of luck'' etc. etc.), "Kim Gordon and the Arthur Doyle Hand Cream" lampoons MariahCarey, Music/MariahCarey, "Peace Attack" is a mellower but still pretty ripshit pissed indictment of UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush. "I Killed Christgau With My Big Fucking Dick" is self-explanatory.
13th Mar '18 4:21:21 AM jormis29
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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "[[SprawlTrilogy The Sprawl]]" and "[[Literature/PatternRecognition Pattern Recognition]]" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life. "Mildred Pierce" is one to, well, ''Literature/MildredPierce''. The bonus track "Literature/WhereTheRedFernGrows" (included on a reissue of their self-titled EP). And so on.

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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "[[SprawlTrilogy The Sprawl]]" and "[[Literature/PatternRecognition Pattern Recognition]]" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' ''Literature/HendersonTheRainKing'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life. "Mildred Pierce" is one to, well, ''Literature/MildredPierce''. The bonus track "Literature/WhereTheRedFernGrows" (included on a reissue of their self-titled EP). And so on.
10th Feb '18 3:14:49 AM CassandraLeo
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* LoudnessWar: Their later material got hit with this somewhat. ''Rather Ripped'' and ''The Eternal'' are the worst about it among their main albums, each being [=DR6=] and clipping pretty badly. Some reissues have problems with this as well.
23rd Jan '18 1:46:49 PM CassandraLeo
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* ViewersAreGeniuses: Their work may qualify in many cases. Their lyrics often read like WordSaladLyrics to the uninitiated, but many of these cases are actually subtle literary references that will simply 'look'' like word salad to readers unfamiliar with the works in question. Their music also often qualifies between the unusual compositional techniques, inaccessible and often abrasive songwriting and arrangements, musical vocabulary inspired by works often well off an average rock fan's radar, and so on.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: Their work may qualify in many cases. Their lyrics often read like WordSaladLyrics to the uninitiated, but many of these cases are actually subtle literary references that will simply 'look'' ''look'' like word salad to readers unfamiliar with the works in question. Their music also often qualifies between the unusual compositional techniques, inaccessible and often abrasive songwriting and arrangements, musical vocabulary inspired by works often well off an average rock fan's radar, and so on.
23rd Jan '18 1:43:31 PM CassandraLeo
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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "[[SprawlTrilogy The Sprawl]]" and "[[Literature/PatternRecognition Pattern Recognition]]" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life. "Mildred Pierce" is one to, well, ''Literature/MildredPierce''. The bonus track "Literature/WhereTheRedFernGoes" (included on a reissue of their self-titled EP). And so on.

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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "[[SprawlTrilogy The Sprawl]]" and "[[Literature/PatternRecognition Pattern Recognition]]" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life. "Mildred Pierce" is one to, well, ''Literature/MildredPierce''. The bonus track "Literature/WhereTheRedFernGoes" "Literature/WhereTheRedFernGrows" (included on a reissue of their self-titled EP). And so on.
23rd Jan '18 1:42:56 PM CassandraLeo
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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "[[SprawlTrilogy The Sprawl]]" and "[[Literature/PatternRecognition Pattern Recognition]]" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life. "Mildred Pierce" is one to, well, ''Literature/MildredPierce''. And so on.

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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "[[SprawlTrilogy The Sprawl]]" and "[[Literature/PatternRecognition Pattern Recognition]]" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life. "Mildred Pierce" is one to, well, ''Literature/MildredPierce''. The bonus track "Literature/WhereTheRedFernGoes" (included on a reissue of their self-titled EP). And so on.


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* TitledAfterTheSong: ''Bad Moon Rising'' is named after a Music/CreedenceClearwaterRevival song, of all things.
23rd Jan '18 1:39:02 PM CassandraLeo
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** ''Bad Moon Rising'': "I Love Her All the Time" (7:27)



** There are also a bunch of other songs on their B-sides, side releases, live albums, and so on. Evidently, different band members had different opinions about brevity versus [[IncrediblyLamePun sprawl]]; some members evidently tended to favour concision, while Moore has commented, "If I was the leader [of Sonic Youth] as much as everyone says I am, every song would be 20 minutes long." Also, as seen in the lists above, some albums have a lot more of this than others; some didn't have a single track break the six-minute mark, while others (''Daydream Nation'', ''A Thousand Leaves'', ''Murray Street'', ''Sonic Nurse'') have around half their songs qualify or sometimes even more.

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** There are also And that's not including a bunch of other long songs on their [=EPs=], B-sides, side SYR series, live releases, live albums, bonus tracks, and so on. Evidently, different band members had different opinions about brevity versus [[IncrediblyLamePun sprawl]]; some members evidently tended to favour concision, while Moore has commented, "If I was the leader [of Sonic Youth] as much as everyone says I am, every song would be 20 minutes long." Also, as seen in the lists above, some albums have a lot more of this than others; some didn't have a single track break the six-minute mark, while others (''Daydream Nation'', ''A Thousand Leaves'', ''Murray Street'', ''Sonic Nurse'') have around half their songs qualify or sometimes even more.
23rd Jan '18 1:36:15 PM CassandraLeo
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** ''Washing Machine'': "Washing Machine" (9:33), "The Diamond Sea" (the album version on ''Washing Machine'' is 19:35, and was edited down from an even longer '''25:50''' version included as a single B-side, though it was also edited down to 5:15 for the A-side)

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** ''Washing Machine'': "Washing Machine" (9:33), "The Diamond Sea" (the album version (19:35, making it their longest track on ''Washing Machine'' is 19:35, and any of their studio albums, though it was edited down from an even longer '''25:50''' version included version, which is available as a single B-side, though it BSide of its eponymous single. [It was also edited down to a much more regular length of 5:15 for the A-side)A-side.])



** ''The Eternal'': "Anti-Orgasm" (6:08), "Antenna" (6:13), "Massage the History" (9:43).
** There are also a bunch of other songs on their B-sides, side releases, live albums, and so on. Evidently, different band members had different opinions about brevity versus [[IncrediblyLamePun sprawl]]; some members evidently tended to favour concision, while Moore has commented, "If I was the leader [of Sonic Youth] as much as everyone says I am, every song would be 20 minutes long."

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** ''The Eternal'': "Anti-Orgasm" (6:08), "Antenna" (6:13), "Massage the History" (9:43).
(9:43)
** There are also a bunch of other songs on their B-sides, side releases, live albums, and so on. Evidently, different band members had different opinions about brevity versus [[IncrediblyLamePun sprawl]]; some members evidently tended to favour concision, while Moore has commented, "If I was the leader [of Sonic Youth] as much as everyone says I am, every song would be 20 minutes long."" Also, as seen in the lists above, some albums have a lot more of this than others; some didn't have a single track break the six-minute mark, while others (''Daydream Nation'', ''A Thousand Leaves'', ''Murray Street'', ''Sonic Nurse'') have around half their songs qualify or sometimes even more.
23rd Jan '18 1:32:21 PM CassandraLeo
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* EpicRocking: "Expressway to Yr. Skull", "Teen Age Riot", "The Sprawl", "'Cross the Breeze", "Trilogy", "Tunic (Song for Karen)", "Washing Machine", "The Diamond Sea" (both versions), "Female Mechanic Now on Duty", "Wildflower Soul", "Hits of Sunshine (for Allen Ginsberg)", "Karen Koltrane", "Free City Rhymes", "[=StreamXSonik=] Subway", "NYC Ghosts & Flowers", "Disconnection Notice", "Rain on Tin", "Karen Revisited", "Sympathy for the Strawberry", "The Dripping Dream", "I Love You Golden Blue", "Massage the History", and so on.

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* EpicRocking: From their main album releases, we have:
** ''EVOL'':
"Expressway to Yr. Skull", Skull" (7:19)
** ''Daydream Nation'':
"Teen Age Riot", Riot" (6:57), "The Sprawl", Sprawl" (7:42), "'Cross the Breeze", "Trilogy", Breeze" (7:00), "Total Trash" (7:33), "Trilogy" (14:02)
** ''Goo'':
"Tunic (Song for Karen)", Karen)" (6:22), "Mote" (7:37), "Titanium Exposé" (6:27)
** ''Washing Machine'':
"Washing Machine", Machine" (9:33), "The Diamond Sea" (both versions), (the album version on ''Washing Machine'' is 19:35, and was edited down from an even longer '''25:50''' version included as a single B-side, though it was also edited down to 5:15 for the A-side)
** ''A Thousand Leaves'':
"Female Mechanic Now on Duty", Duty" (7:43), "Wildflower Soul", Soul" (11:05), "Hits of Sunshine (for Allen Ginsberg)", Ginsberg)" (11:05), "Karen Koltrane", Koltrane" (9:20), "Snare, Girl" (6:38), "Heather Angel" (6:09)
** ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'':
"Free City Rhymes", "[=StreamXSonik=] Subway", Rhymes" (7:32), "NYC Ghosts & Flowers", Flowers" (7:52)
** ''Murray Street'':
"Disconnection Notice", Notice" (6:24), "Rain on Tin", Tin" (7:56), "Karen Revisited", Revisited" (11:10), "Sympathy for the Strawberry", Strawberry" (9:06), "Sweet Sauce" (7:34; Japanese bonus track)
** ''Sonic Nurse'': "Pattern Recognition" (6:33),
"The Dripping Dream", Dream" (7:46), "Stones" (7:06), "I Love You Golden Blue", Blue" (7:03), "Peace Attack" (6:10)
** ''Rather Ripped'': "Turquoise Boy" (6:14), "Pink Stream" (6:57)
** ''The Eternal'': "Anti-Orgasm" (6:08), "Antenna" (6:13),
"Massage the History", History" (9:43).
** There are also a bunch of other songs on their B-sides, side releases, live albums,
and so on.on. Evidently, different band members had different opinions about brevity versus [[IncrediblyLamePun sprawl]]; some members evidently tended to favour concision, while Moore has commented, "If I was the leader [of Sonic Youth] as much as everyone says I am, every song would be 20 minutes long."
23rd Jan '18 1:07:01 PM CassandraLeo
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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "The Sprawl" and "Pattern Recognition" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life.

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* LiteraryAllusionTitle: "The Sprawl" "[[SprawlTrilogy The Sprawl]]" and "Pattern Recognition" "[[Literature/PatternRecognition Pattern Recognition]]" are Creator/WilliamGibson references (and they have several other references to him). "Rain King" may be one to Creator/SaulBellow's novel ''Henderson the Rain King'' (which also inspired Music/CountingCrows' otherwise unrelated song of the same title). ''Sister'' is named in honour of Creator/PhilipKDick's fraternal twin, who died shortly after her birth; her death haunted Dick for his whole life. "Mildred Pierce" is one to, well, ''Literature/MildredPierce''. And so on.



* VocalTagTeam: Aside from a few exceptions, the vocals tend to be done by whoever wrote the lyrics, giving the band three different lead singers.

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: Their work may qualify in many cases. Their lyrics often read like WordSaladLyrics to the uninitiated, but many of these cases are actually subtle literary references that will simply 'look'' like word salad to readers unfamiliar with the works in question. Their music also often qualifies between the unusual compositional techniques, inaccessible and often abrasive songwriting and arrangements, musical vocabulary inspired by works often well off an average rock fan's radar, and so on.
* VocalTagTeam: Aside from With a few exceptions, the vocals tend to be done by whoever wrote the lyrics, lyrics sings the song, giving the band three different lead singers.singers. Thurston and Kim tend to sing somewhat more songs than Lee, but he still gets at least one or two songs on most of their albums (or, on ''Daydream Nation'', three - it is a double album, though).
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