History Music / SonicYouth

27th Dec '16 12:46:55 AM MarkLungo
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* CanonDisContinuity: ''Sonic Youth''and ''Confusion is Sex'' and ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' are this as well.

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* CanonDisContinuity: ''Sonic Youth''and Youth'', and ''Confusion is Sex'' and ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' are this as well.
27th Dec '16 12:43:56 AM MarkLungo
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Starting with 1984-1985, the band managed to sort out their career, finally obtaining a permanent drummer with Steve Shelley of The Crucifucks (whose hyperactive style fit the group very well indeed), getting {{Record Producer}}s with actual ears to work on their albums and toning down their extreme TrueArt-iness in favour of a middle ground between avant-garde noise and energetic Alternative Rock. With albums like ''Bad Moon Rising,'' ''EVOL,'' ''Sister,'' and its universally acclaimed double album ''Daydream Nation,'' the band refined its SignatureStyle, striking the perfect balance between arty, experimental Noise Rock and accessible, catchy Alternative Rock. Thurston and Kim also got married in this period and remained together until late 2011. However, not all was fun and games: The band suffered from distribution and payment issues from its indie record labels, Homestead, SST and Enigma -- Thurston had some particular choice words for Enigm' deriding it as a "cheap-jack Mafioso outfit" and trashing them over their difficulty in supplying ''Daydream Nation'' to stores.

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Starting with 1984-1985, the band managed to sort out their career, finally obtaining a permanent drummer with Steve Shelley of The Crucifucks (whose hyperactive style fit the group very well indeed), getting {{Record Producer}}s with actual ears to work on their albums and toning down their extreme TrueArt-iness in favour of a middle ground between avant-garde noise and energetic Alternative Rock. With albums like ''Bad Moon Rising,'' ''EVOL,'' ''Sister,'' and its universally acclaimed double album ''Daydream Nation,'' the band refined its SignatureStyle, striking the perfect balance between arty, experimental Noise Rock and accessible, catchy Alternative Rock. Thurston and Kim also got married in this period and remained together until late 2011. However, not all was fun and games: The band suffered from distribution and payment issues from its indie record labels, Homestead, SST and Enigma -- Thurston had some particular choice words for Enigm' Enigma, deriding it as a "cheap-jack Mafioso outfit" and trashing them over their difficulty in supplying ''Daydream Nation'' to stores.
19th Nov '16 3:59:12 PM MarkLungo
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Drawing on a wide variety of influences ranging from proto-punk acts like Music/TheStooges and the Music/VelvetUnderground and HardcorePunk to avant-garde musicians Glenn Branca, Rhys Chatham, and Music/JohnCage, Sonic Youth's early career was spent largely being a SensoryAbuse NoiseRock band and struggling with lack of recognition and cycling through a succession of drummers. Notably, the band sparred with music critic Robert Christgau over a dismissive review (renaming their song "Kill Yr Idols" to "I Killed Christgau with My Big Fucking Dick" in concert), had a disastrous debut in London ending in instrument destruction ([[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity which paradoxically got rave reviews]]) and released a mediocre debut suffering from horrible production, ''Confusion is Sex,'' that hardcore fans love but everybody else tends to ignore.

Starting with 1984-1985, the band managed to sort out their career, finally obtaining a permanent drummer with Steve Shelley of ''The Crucifucks'' (whose hyperactive style fit the group very well indeed), getting {{Record Producer}}s with actual ears to work on their albums and toning down their extreme TrueArt-iness in favour of a middle ground between avant-garde noise and energetic Alternative Rock. With albums like ''Bad Moon Rising,'' ''EVOL,'' ''Sister,'' and its universally acclaimed double album ''Daydream Nation,'' the band refined its SignatureStyle, striking the perfect balance between arty, experimental Noise Rock and accessible, catchy Alternative Rock. Thurston and Kim also got married in this period and remained together until late 2011. However, not all was fun and games: The band suffered from distribution and payment issues from its indie record labels, ''SST'' and ''Enigma'' -- Thurston had some particular choice words for ''Enigma,'' deriding it as a "cheap-jack Mafioso outfit" and trashing them over their difficulty in supplying ''Daydream Nation'' to stores.

Sick of being jerked around by distribution deficient indie labels, ''Sonic Youth'' jumped ship and signed on to Creator/GeffenRecords' sublabel ''DGC'' in 1990. Their first album for Geffen / DGC, ''Goo,'' represented a concentrated blast of alt-rock noise, and accordingly sold better than previous albums and spawned the band's biggest hit: "Kool Thing." In the same year, Kim's staunch support persuaded ''Geffen'' to also bring on board devoted ''Sonic Youth'' fans Music/{{Nirvana}}, making them indirectly responsible for the popularisation of {{Grunge}} in TheNineties. ''Nirvana'' and ''Sonic Youth'' quickly became friends too (Sonic Youth's ''Whores Moaning'' EP was a blatant ShoutOut to Nirvana's ''Hormoaning,'' and its cover showed one of Kurt Cobain's toys). Their follow-up, ''Dirty,'' was produced by Butch Vig and engineered by Andy Wallace (the guys behind ''Nevermind'') and also proved to be a decent success.

Many fans predictably whined ItsPopularNowItSucks after ''Sonic Youth'' went to a major label and gradually began abandoning the band in droves. This didn't initially affect their popularity much, as the band managed to pump out more successful albums and underwent a stylistic evolution starting with ''Washing Machine,'' abandoning their PunkRock roots and indulging more freely in [[EpicRocking long]] noise jams. Kim also began playing guitar more often and eventually abandoned the bass entirely. They also found enough free time to release experimental records on their ''SYR'' label and collaborate with experimental noise musicians such as John Cage, Music/YokoOno, Steve Reich, Christian Marclay, and Mission of Burma.

''Sonic Youth'' hit a ''huge'' speedbump when all of their instruments, amps, and gear were stolen on July 4, 1999 during their tour and their new album ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' quickly got a massive panning due to its self-indulgent jamming and pretentious, humourless, {{Narm}}y lyrics. However, they managed to recover quickly through the addition of new member Jim O'Rourke and releasing ''Murray Street,'' which was roundly hailed as a return to form. Most of their material since has been more accessible and melodic, with the avant-garde freakouts reserved for the ''SYR'' releases. Ever since, they've recovered their stolen gear, lost O'Rourke in 2005, recruited former Music/{{Pavement}} bassist Mark Ibold in 2006 and left ''Geffen'' in 2008, moving to indie label ''Matador Records.'' In 2011, Moore and Gordon divorced, and the band went on hiatus shortly afterward.

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Drawing on a wide variety of influences ranging from proto-punk acts like Music/TheStooges and the Music/VelvetUnderground and HardcorePunk to avant-garde musicians Glenn Branca, Rhys Chatham, and Music/JohnCage, Sonic Youth's early career was spent largely being a SensoryAbuse NoiseRock band and struggling with lack of recognition and cycling through a succession of drummers. Notably, the band sparred with music critic Robert Christgau over a dismissive review (renaming their song "Kill Yr Idols" to "I Killed Christgau with My Big Fucking Dick" in concert), had a disastrous debut in London UsefulNotes/{{London}} ending in instrument destruction ([[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity which paradoxically got rave reviews]]) and released a mediocre debut suffering from horrible production, ''Confusion is Sex,'' that hardcore fans love but everybody else tends to ignore.

Starting with 1984-1985, the band managed to sort out their career, finally obtaining a permanent drummer with Steve Shelley of ''The Crucifucks'' The Crucifucks (whose hyperactive style fit the group very well indeed), getting {{Record Producer}}s with actual ears to work on their albums and toning down their extreme TrueArt-iness in favour of a middle ground between avant-garde noise and energetic Alternative Rock. With albums like ''Bad Moon Rising,'' ''EVOL,'' ''Sister,'' and its universally acclaimed double album ''Daydream Nation,'' the band refined its SignatureStyle, striking the perfect balance between arty, experimental Noise Rock and accessible, catchy Alternative Rock. Thurston and Kim also got married in this period and remained together until late 2011. However, not all was fun and games: The band suffered from distribution and payment issues from its indie record labels, ''SST'' Homestead, SST and ''Enigma'' Enigma -- Thurston had some particular choice words for ''Enigma,'' Enigm' deriding it as a "cheap-jack Mafioso outfit" and trashing them over their difficulty in supplying ''Daydream Nation'' to stores.

Sick of being jerked around by distribution deficient indie labels, ''Sonic Youth'' jumped ship and signed on to Creator/GeffenRecords' sublabel ''DGC'' DGC in 1990. Their first album for Geffen / DGC, ''Goo,'' ''Goo'', represented a concentrated blast of alt-rock noise, and accordingly sold better than previous albums and spawned the band's biggest hit: "Kool Thing." In the same year, Kim's staunch support persuaded ''Geffen'' Geffen to also bring on board devoted ''Sonic Youth'' Sonic Youth fans Music/{{Nirvana}}, making them indirectly responsible for the popularisation of {{Grunge}} in TheNineties. ''Nirvana'' Nirvana and ''Sonic Youth'' Sonic Youth quickly became friends too (Sonic Youth's ''Whores Moaning'' EP was a blatant ShoutOut to Nirvana's ''Hormoaning,'' and its cover showed one of Kurt Cobain's Music/KurtCobain's toys). Their follow-up, ''Dirty,'' was produced by Butch Vig and engineered by Andy Wallace (the guys behind ''Nevermind'') ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'') and also proved to be a decent success.

Many fans predictably whined ItsPopularNowItSucks after ''Sonic Youth'' Sonic Youth went to a major label and gradually began abandoning the band in droves. This didn't initially affect their popularity much, as the band managed to pump out more successful albums and underwent a stylistic evolution starting with ''Washing Machine,'' abandoning their PunkRock roots and indulging more freely in [[EpicRocking long]] noise jams. Kim also began playing guitar more often and eventually abandoned the bass entirely. They also found enough free time to release experimental records on their ''SYR'' SYR label and collaborate with experimental noise musicians such as John Cage, Music/YokoOno, Steve Reich, Christian Marclay, and Mission of Burma.

''Sonic Youth'' hit a ''huge'' speedbump when all of their instruments, amps, and gear were stolen on July 4, 1999 during their tour and their new album ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' quickly got a massive panning due to its self-indulgent jamming and pretentious, humourless, {{Narm}}y lyrics. However, they managed to recover quickly through the addition of new member Jim O'Rourke and releasing ''Murray Street,'' which was roundly hailed as a return to form. Most of their material since has been more accessible and melodic, with the avant-garde freakouts reserved for the ''SYR'' SYR releases. Ever since, they've recovered their stolen gear, lost O'Rourke in 2005, recruited former Music/{{Pavement}} bassist Mark Ibold in 2006 and left ''Geffen'' Geffen in 2008, moving to indie label ''Matador Records.'' Matador Records. In 2011, Moore and Gordon divorced, and the band went on hiatus shortly afterward.



* 1983 - ''Confusion is Sex'' (Bundled together with the ''Kill Yr Idols'' EP on re-release by ''Geffen'')

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* 1983 - ''Confusion is Sex'' (Bundled together with the ''Kill Yr Idols'' EP on re-release by ''Geffen'')Geffen)



* 1988 - ''The Whitey Album'' (released as ''Ciccone Youth,'' a parody of pop and alternative rap with tongue in cheek covers of "Into the Groove" by Music/{{Madonna}} and "Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer)

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* 1988 - ''The Whitey Album'' (released as ''Ciccone Youth,'' Ciccone Youth, a parody of pop and alternative rap with tongue in cheek covers of "Into the Groove" by Music/{{Madonna}} and "Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer)
19th Nov '16 3:52:44 PM MarkLungo
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''Sonic Youth'' was a legendary NoiseRock / AlternativeRock band known chiefly for its noisy, experimental avant-garde tendencies and extensive use of prepared guitars, unorthodox tunings, heavy distortion, and feedback in their songs. They've been a significant influence on Alternative Rock in TheEighties and were a key influence on Music/MyBloodyValentine and, by extension, the entire {{Shoegazing}} movement. Formed in 1981 in New York City, their final lineup was as follows:

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''Sonic Youth'' was a legendary NoiseRock / AlternativeRock band known chiefly for its noisy, experimental avant-garde tendencies and extensive use of prepared guitars, unorthodox tunings, heavy distortion, and feedback in their songs. They've been a significant influence on Alternative Rock in TheEighties and were a key influence on Music/MyBloodyValentine and, by extension, the entire {{Shoegazing}} movement. Formed in 1981 in New York City, UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity, their final lineup was as follows:
2nd Nov '16 2:25:28 PM Morgenthaler
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** "Kool Thing" was a TakeThat directed at ''LLCoolJ'' (of all people), apparently prompted by an interview Kim Gordon had with him.

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** "Kool Thing" was a TakeThat directed at ''LLCoolJ'' ''Music/LLCoolJ'' (of all people), apparently prompted by an interview Kim Gordon had with him.



** Then there's their "cover" of YokoOno's "Voice Piece For Soprano", which is just the newborn Coco Gordon-Moore mewling for a few seconds. This could also be considered AffectionateParody; Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore would later collaborate with Yoko Ono on the album ''Yokokimthurston'', and Moore called one of his solo songs "Ono Soul" as a ShoutOut.

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** Then there's their "cover" of YokoOno's Music/YokoOno's "Voice Piece For Soprano", which is just the newborn Coco Gordon-Moore mewling for a few seconds. This could also be considered AffectionateParody; Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore would later collaborate with Yoko Ono on the album ''Yokokimthurston'', and Moore called one of his solo songs "Ono Soul" as a ShoutOut.
17th Jul '16 5:02:53 PM gewunomox
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* Jim O'Rourke - Guitar, bass, synthesiser (2000-2005)

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* Jim O'Rourke - Guitar, bass, synthesiser synthesizer (2000-2005)



Many fans predictably whined ItsPopularNowItSucks after ''Sonic Youth'' went to a major label and gradually began abandoning the band in droves. This didn't initially affect their popularity much, as the band managed to pump out more successful albums andunderwent a stylistic evolution starting with ''Washing Machine,'' abandoning their PunkRock roots and indulging more freely in [[EpicRocking long]] noise jams. Kim also began playing guitar more often and eventually abandoned the bass entirely. They also found enough free time to release experimental records on their ''SYR'' label and collaborate with experimental noise musicians such as John Cage, Music/YokoOno, Steve Reich, Christian Marclay, and Mission of Burma.

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Many fans predictably whined ItsPopularNowItSucks after ''Sonic Youth'' went to a major label and gradually began abandoning the band in droves. This didn't initially affect their popularity much, as the band managed to pump out more successful albums andunderwent and underwent a stylistic evolution starting with ''Washing Machine,'' abandoning their PunkRock roots and indulging more freely in [[EpicRocking long]] noise jams. Kim also began playing guitar more often and eventually abandoned the bass entirely. They also found enough free time to release experimental records on their ''SYR'' label and collaborate with experimental noise musicians such as John Cage, Music/YokoOno, Steve Reich, Christian Marclay, and Mission of Burma.



* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: "Unmade Bed"
* AlliterativeTitle: ''Rather Ripped''

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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: "Unmade Bed"
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* AlliterativeTitle: ''Rather Ripped''Ripped''.



* CanonDisContinuity: ''Sonic Youth''and ''Confusion is Sex'' and ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' are this as well.
** That said, each has at least one MomentOfAwesome; "The Burning Spear" and "Shaking Hell", in particular are classic Sonic Youth. Even ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' has the [[TearJerker unbelievably sad]] title song.



* CanonDisContinuity: ''Sonic Youth''and ''Confusion Is Sex'' and ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' are this as well.
** That said, each has at least one MomentOfAwesome; "The Burning Spear" and "Shaking Hell", in particular are classic Sonic Youth. Even ''NYC Ghosts & Flowers'' has the [[TearJerker unbelievably sad]] title song.
11th Mar '16 5:16:44 PM JohnnyLurg
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* AlliterativeTitle: ''Rather Ripped''
10th Mar '16 6:40:51 PM aye_amber
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Drawing on a wide variety of influences ranging from proto-punk acts like Music/TheStooges and Music/VelvetUnderground and HardcorePunk to avant-garde musicians Glenn Branca, Rhys Chatham, and Music/JohnCage, Sonic Youth's early career was spent largely being a SensoryAbuse NoiseRock band and struggling with lack of recognition and cycling through a succession of drummers. Notably, the band sparred with music critic Robert Christgau over a dismissive review (renaming their song "Kill Yr Idols" to "I Killed Christgau with My Big Fucking Dick" in concert), had a disastrous debut in London ending in instrument destruction ([[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity which paradoxically got rave reviews]]) and released a mediocre debut suffering from horrible production, ''Confusion is Sex,'' that hardcore fans love but everybody else tends to ignore.

to:

Drawing on a wide variety of influences ranging from proto-punk acts like Music/TheStooges and the Music/VelvetUnderground and HardcorePunk to avant-garde musicians Glenn Branca, Rhys Chatham, and Music/JohnCage, Sonic Youth's early career was spent largely being a SensoryAbuse NoiseRock band and struggling with lack of recognition and cycling through a succession of drummers. Notably, the band sparred with music critic Robert Christgau over a dismissive review (renaming their song "Kill Yr Idols" to "I Killed Christgau with My Big Fucking Dick" in concert), had a disastrous debut in London ending in instrument destruction ([[NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity which paradoxically got rave reviews]]) and released a mediocre debut suffering from horrible production, ''Confusion is Sex,'' that hardcore fans love but everybody else tends to ignore.
10th Mar '16 6:21:19 PM aye_amber
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* CoverVersion: "I Wanna Be Your Dog" by Music/TheStooges, "Bubblegum" by Kim Fowley, "Hot Wire My Heart" by Crime, "Nic Fit" by The Untouchables, "Into the Groove" by Madonna, "Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer, "Within You Without You" for a [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]] tribute album, "Electricity" for a Music/CaptainBeefheart tribute album, "Superstar" for a Music/{{Carpenters}} tribute album, "Touch Me I'm Sick" for a split single with Music/{{Mudhoney}} and the entire ''SYR4'' album.

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* CoverVersion: "I Wanna Be Your Dog" by Music/TheStooges, "Bubblegum" by Kim Fowley, "Hot Wire My Heart" by Crime, "Nic Fit" by The Untouchables, "Into the Groove" by Madonna, "Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer, "Within You Without You" for a [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]] tribute album, "Electricity" for a Music/CaptainBeefheart tribute album, "Superstar" for a Music/{{Carpenters}} tribute album, "Touch Me I'm Sick" for a split single with Music/{{Mudhoney}} and the entire ''SYR4'' ''[=SYR4=]'' album.
10th Mar '16 6:19:42 PM aye_amber
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Sick of being jerked around by distribution deficient indie labels, ''Sonic Youth'' jumped ship and signed on to Creator/GeffenRecords' sublabel ''DGC'' in 1990. Their first album for Geffen / DGC, ''Goo,'' represented a concentrated blast of alt-rock noise, and accordingly sold better than previous albums and spawned the band's biggest hit: "Kool Thing." In the same year, Kim's staunch support persuaded ''Geffen'' to also bring on board devoted ''Sonic Youth'' fans Music/{{Nirvana}}, making them indirectly responsible for the popularisation of {{Grunge}} in TheNineties. ''Nirvana'' and ''Sonic Youth'' quickly became friends too (''Sonic Youth'''s ''Whores Moaning'' EP was a blatant ShoutOut to ''Nirvana'''s ''Hormoaning,'' and its cover showed one of Kurt Cobain's toys). Their follow-up, ''Dirty,'' was produced by Butch Vig and engineered by Andy Wallace (the guys behind ''Nevermind'') and also proved to be a decent success.

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Sick of being jerked around by distribution deficient indie labels, ''Sonic Youth'' jumped ship and signed on to Creator/GeffenRecords' sublabel ''DGC'' in 1990. Their first album for Geffen / DGC, ''Goo,'' represented a concentrated blast of alt-rock noise, and accordingly sold better than previous albums and spawned the band's biggest hit: "Kool Thing." In the same year, Kim's staunch support persuaded ''Geffen'' to also bring on board devoted ''Sonic Youth'' fans Music/{{Nirvana}}, making them indirectly responsible for the popularisation of {{Grunge}} in TheNineties. ''Nirvana'' and ''Sonic Youth'' quickly became friends too (''Sonic Youth'''s (Sonic Youth's ''Whores Moaning'' EP was a blatant ShoutOut to ''Nirvana'''s Nirvana's ''Hormoaning,'' and its cover showed one of Kurt Cobain's toys). Their follow-up, ''Dirty,'' was produced by Butch Vig and engineered by Andy Wallace (the guys behind ''Nevermind'') and also proved to be a decent success.
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