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Marilyn Manson (initially Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids) are an [[UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates American]] rock band founded in 1989. Most of their early music technically falls under IndustrialMetal, but they have since embraced influences from a variety of rock subgenres including {{alternative|Rock}} and {{glam|Rock}}.

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Marilyn Manson (initially Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids) are an [[UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates American]] rock band founded in 1989. Most of their early music technically falls under IndustrialMetal, but they have since embraced influences from a variety of rock subgenres including {{alternative|Rock}} {{goth|Rock}} and {{glam|Rock}}.
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* IndustrialMetal: Their primary genre and its arguable {{Trope Codifier}}s alongside Music/NineInchNails, with the exception of a few albums (''Mechanical Animals'' is GlamRock and ''Eat Me, Drink Me'' is just rock, and many of their songs on albums don't care if you can put them in a single genre). They are arguably one of the most popular in the genre, along with Music/{{Rammstein}} and Music/FearFactory.

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* IndustrialMetal: Their primary genre and its arguable {{Trope Codifier}}s alongside Music/NineInchNails, with the exception of a few albums (''Mechanical Animals'' is GlamRock and ''Eat Me, Drink Me'' is just rock, primarily Goth Rock, and many of their songs on albums don't care if you can put them in a single genre). They are arguably one of the most popular in the genre, along with Music/{{Rammstein}} and Music/FearFactory.
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Doesn't fit the trope, as the lyrics don't describe the South and Southern Gothic Rock isn't a genre, album is more Blues Rock than Gothic Country


* SouthernGothic: In a departure from the band's primary genre of Industrial/Glam rock, ''The Pale Emperor'' has a strong influence from the musical genre of southern gothic rock.
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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by the band and their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether they are a Goth band or merely influenced by the genre.

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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by the band and their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he the band had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether they are a Goth band or merely influenced by the genre.
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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing the band's music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.

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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his the band's pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing the band's their music as Goth was very contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him the band and his their fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is they are a Goth musician band or merely influenced by the genre.
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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his music as Goth was very contentious as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.

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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his the band's music as Goth was very contentious contentious, as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.
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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his music as Goth was very contentious as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, who did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.

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* GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his music as Goth was very contentious as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, who and Goths did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.
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* GothicRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his music as Goth was very contentious as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, who did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.

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* GothicRock: GothRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his music as Goth was very contentious as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, who did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.
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* GothicRock: Manson has been moving in this direction since 2015's ''The Pale Emperor''; while his pre-2015 output showed influence from the genre (such as on ''Eat Me, Drink Me''), categorizing his music as Goth was very contentious as old school Goths felt that the term was being hijacked by him and his fans, who did not want the public to perceive Goth as being synonymous with IndustrialMetal, which he had fused with elements of GlamRock and Goth. To this date, Goths and Manson fans are very divided as to whether he is a Goth musician or merely influenced by the genre.
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* {{Bishonen}}: Marilyn was this in his early days, having long straight hair, being really skinny, and wearing makeup quite often. Twiggy was this to another level in the 90s when he wore dresses and wigs, and apparently even women’s underwear in some cases. Zim-Zum and Gidget Gein were also pretty feminine-looking in their own right, though wearing goth makeup can do this to anyone.
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Oh, he's friends with the late Creator/AntonLaVey, too.

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In October 2017, Ramirez was fired after Jessicka Addams, Music/JackOffJill vocalist and Ramirez's ex-girlfriend, publicly accused him of pervasive physical, emotional, and sexual abuse in their relationship. Manson himself would be accused of similar acts in 2021, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and him being dropped by his label, manager and talent agency.

However, as of 2023, he may be making a comeback, as he posted a picture to Instagram that said "I’ve got something for you to hear," and most of the allegations may be proven false, as one of his former accusers said the allegations were fake.

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In October 2017, Ramirez was fired after Jessicka Addams, vocalist for Music/JackOffJill vocalist and Ramirez's ex-girlfriend, publicly accused him of pervasive physical, emotional, and sexual abuse in their relationship. Manson himself would be accused of similar acts in 2021, 2021 by several former partners including Creator/EvanRachelWood, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and him being dropped by his label, manager and talent agency.

However, as of 2023, he may be making a comeback, as he posted a picture to Instagram
agency. Manson and his legal team have repeatedly denied the allegations, in turn claiming that said "I’ve got something for you to hear," and most of the allegations may be proven false, as one several of his former accusers said the allegations were fake.
conspired to organize statements that misrepresented their relationships with Manson. In February 2023, one of Manson's accusers recanted her allegations, claiming that she had been "manipulated" and "pressured" into spreading "publicly false accusations".
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However, as of 2023, he may be making a comeback, as he posted a picture to Instagram that said "I’ve got something for you to hear," and most of the allegations may be proven false, as one of his former accusers said the allegations were fake.
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* SingingVoiceDissonance: Manson is quite the calm talker. Listen to the live version of "I Don't Like The Drugs (But The Drugs Like Me)" from ''The Last Tour On Earth''. Calm Manson talking, not-calm Manson singing.

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* SingingVoiceDissonance: Manson is quite the calm US American talker. Listen to the live version of "I Don't Like The Drugs (But The Drugs Like Me)" from ''The Last Tour On Earth''. Calm US American Manson talking, not-calm Canadian Manson singing.
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* BadassBaritone: Manson, which only makes the early rumors that he was really a woman even more perplexing.
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The band are without a doubt [[NeverLiveItDown best known from the image of them conjured by the public]] at the height of their popularity in the 1990s, namely deeming them "shock rockers" (a label they resented, as they felt they never were trying to be shocking, but just doing what they wanted). Their graphic imagery and conceptual basis in critiquing and satirizing mainstream American media won them a reputation of a kind seldom seen before in music, to the tune of protests and petitions to cancel performances alongside states ''passing legislation'' to ban the group from performing at state-owned venues. In fact, the [[MediaScaremongering moral panic]] against them was so great that they were blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre by sections of the media under the belief that the killers had been inspired by their music. (Ironically, the killers hated them and saw them as sell-outs, and were fans of Music/{{KMFDM}} and Music/{{Rammstein}} instead.)

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The band are without a doubt [[NeverLiveItDown best known from the image of them conjured by the public]] at the height of their popularity in the 1990s, namely deeming them including the recurring summary of their work as "shock rockers" rock" (a label they resented, as they felt they never were trying to be shocking, but just doing what they wanted). Their graphic imagery and conceptual basis in critiquing and satirizing mainstream American media won them a reputation of a kind seldom seen before in music, to the tune of protests and petitions to cancel performances alongside states ''passing legislation'' to ban the group from performing at state-owned venues. In fact, the [[MediaScaremongering moral panic]] against them was so great that they were blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre by sections of the media under the belief that the killers had been inspired by their music. (Ironically, the killers hated them and saw them as sell-outs, and were fans of Music/{{KMFDM}} and Music/{{Rammstein}} instead.)



Due to the fact that the band name is also the lead singer's stage name, Marilyn Manson is one of the most notorious examples of IAmTheBand in existence. Many people are not, in fact, aware that they are a band and credit all the group's music to the singer alone. This has become more prominent over time, to the point where Marilyn Manson the person has become a household name, yet the other band members are known only by fans, ex-fans and (some) music critics.

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Due to the fact that the band name is also the lead singer's stage name, Marilyn Manson is one of the most notorious examples of IAmTheBand in existence. Many people are not, in fact, aware that they are a band band, and credit all the group's music to the singer alone. This has become more prominent over time, to the point where Marilyn Manson the person has become a household name, yet the other band members are largely known only by fans, ex-fans and (some) music critics.

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Marilyn Manson (initially Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids) are an [[UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates American]] rock band founded in 1989. Most of their early music technically falls under industrial rock with some [[HeavyMetal metal]] elements (a metal style commonly referred to as IndustrialMetal), but they have since embraced influences from a variety of rock subgenres including {{alternative|Rock}} and {{glam|Rock}}.

The band are without a doubt [[NeverLiveItDown best known from the image of them conjured by the public at the height of their fame/infamy]], namely deeming them "shock rockers" (a label they resent, as they felt they never were trying to be shocking, but just doing what they wanted). Their graphic imagery and conceptual basis in critiquing and satirizing mainstream American media won them a reputation of a kind seldom seen before in music. In fact, the [[MediaScaremongering moral panic]] against them was so great that they were blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre by sections of the media under the belief that the killers had been inspired by their music. (Ironically, the killers hated them and saw them as sell-outs, and were fans of Music/{{KMFDM}} and Music/{{Rammstein}} instead.)

On the surface, this seems like an easy mistake to make. Throughout their career, Marilyn Manson have made good use of explicit live shows, controversial lyrics and outright bizarre music videos. The songs are cynical, with many lampooning topics such as conformism and social hierarchy. Nothing was off-limits, including certain members of the band's own fanbase. Despite this, in true metal fashion, several of the songs and most of the videos don't give their meaning up easily, and are open to multiple interpretations.

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Marilyn Manson (initially Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids) are an [[UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates American]] rock band founded in 1989. Most of their early music technically falls under industrial rock with some [[HeavyMetal metal]] elements (a metal style commonly referred to as IndustrialMetal), IndustrialMetal, but they have since embraced influences from a variety of rock subgenres including {{alternative|Rock}} and {{glam|Rock}}.

The band are without a doubt [[NeverLiveItDown best known from the image of them conjured by the public public]] at the height of their fame/infamy]], popularity in the 1990s, namely deeming them "shock rockers" (a label they resent, resented, as they felt they never were trying to be shocking, but just doing what they wanted). Their graphic imagery and conceptual basis in critiquing and satirizing mainstream American media won them a reputation of a kind seldom seen before in music.music, to the tune of protests and petitions to cancel performances alongside states ''passing legislation'' to ban the group from performing at state-owned venues. In fact, the [[MediaScaremongering moral panic]] against them was so great that they were blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre by sections of the media under the belief that the killers had been inspired by their music. (Ironically, the killers hated them and saw them as sell-outs, and were fans of Music/{{KMFDM}} and Music/{{Rammstein}} instead.)

On the surface, this seems like an easy mistake to make. Throughout their career, Marilyn Manson have made good use of explicit live shows, controversial lyrics and outright bizarre music videos. The songs are cynical, with many lampooning topics such as religion, conformism and social hierarchy. Nothing was off-limits, including certain members of the band's own fanbase. Despite this, in true metal fashion, several of the songs and most of the videos don't give their meaning up easily, and are open to multiple interpretations.



The number of them doesn't help -- Marilyn Manson's line up changes almost constantly, and [[RevolvingDoorBand they have gone through 17 guitarists, bassists, drummers and keyboardists in just 20 years.]] This has often been attributed by those who have worked with him to (among other things) Manson thinking that he truly is the band and the others are just there to provide background scenery for him.

With some of the band's more recent albums, however, this mindset was [[DefiedTrope defied]], as former lead guitarist Tyler Bates actually had quite a lot of power in the band alongside Manson, taking the co-creator role previously held by former bassist/guitarist Twiggy Ramirez while Ramirez was busy marrying Laney Chantal and working on his own projects. In October 2017, Ramirez was fired after Jessicka Addams, Music/JackOffJill vocalist and Ramirez's ex-girlfriend, publicly accused him of pervasive physical, emotional, and sexual abuse in their relationship. Manson himself would be accused of similar acts in 2021, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and him being dropped by his label, manager and talent agency.

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The number of them doesn't help -- Marilyn Manson's line up lineup changes almost constantly, and [[RevolvingDoorBand they have gone through 17 guitarists, bassists, drummers and keyboardists in just 20 years.]] This has often been attributed by those who have worked with him to (among other things) Manson thinking that he truly is the band and the others are just there to provide background scenery for him.

With some of the band's more recent albums, however, this mindset was [[DefiedTrope defied]], as former lead guitarist Tyler Bates actually had quite a lot of power in the band alongside Manson, taking the co-creator role previously held by former bassist/guitarist Twiggy Ramirez while Ramirez was busy marrying Laney Chantal and working on his own projects. projects.

In October 2017, Ramirez was fired after Jessicka Addams, Music/JackOffJill vocalist and Ramirez's ex-girlfriend, publicly accused him of pervasive physical, emotional, and sexual abuse in their relationship. Manson himself would be accused of similar acts in 2021, leading to accusations of hypocrisy and him being dropped by his label, manager and talent agency.
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* BeliefMakesYouStupid and BlasphemousBoast: "The Fight Song" from ''Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath:''

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* BeliefMakesYouStupid and BlasphemousBoast: "The Fight Song" from ''Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath:''
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* IndustrialMetal: Their primary genre, with the exception of a few albums (''Mechanical Animals'' is GlamRock and ''Eat Me, Drink Me'' is just rock, and many of their songs on albums don't care if you can put them in a single genre). They are arguably one of the most popular in the genre, along with Music/{{Rammstein}} and Music/FearFactory.

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* IndustrialMetal: Their primary genre, genre and its arguable {{Trope Codifier}}s alongside Music/NineInchNails, with the exception of a few albums (''Mechanical Animals'' is GlamRock and ''Eat Me, Drink Me'' is just rock, and many of their songs on albums don't care if you can put them in a single genre). They are arguably one of the most popular in the genre, along with Music/{{Rammstein}} and Music/FearFactory.
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* {{Blackface}}: Taken UpToEleven in the video for "Sweet Dreams" where Manson's entire body is painted black while he rides a pig.

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* {{Blackface}}: Taken UpToEleven up to eleven in the video for "Sweet Dreams" where Manson's entire body is painted black while he rides a pig.
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BlahBlahBlah, [[TastesLikeDiabetes got your lovey-dovey, sad and lonely]]\\

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* FoeRomanceSubtext: Manson and his first guitarist and co-founder, Daisy Berkowitz. Their long habit of bashing each other in interviews and dragging each other into court for any reason makes them sound like a divorced couple fighting over custody of their only child. Most of this would be pretty standard, but for some reason, Manson's autobiography is also peppered with constant denigrating comments about Daisy's sex life.
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* [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Tyler]] [[Film/{{Watchmen}} Bates]] – lead guitar, backing vocals

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* [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy [[Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2014 Tyler]] [[Film/{{Watchmen}} Bates]] – lead guitar, backing vocals
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The band are without a doubt [[NeverLiveItDown best known from the image of them conjured by the public at the height of their fame/infamy]], namely deeming them "shock rockers" (a label they resent, as they felt they never were trying to be shocking, but just doing what they wanted). Their graphic imagery and conceptual basis in critiquing and satirizing mainstream American media won them a reputation of a kind seldom seen before in music. In fact, the [[YouCanPanicNow moral panic]] against them was so great that they were blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre by sections of the media under the belief that the killers had been inspired by their music. (Ironically, the killers hated them and saw them as sell-outs, and were fans of Music/{{KMFDM}} and Music/{{Rammstein}} instead.)

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The band are without a doubt [[NeverLiveItDown best known from the image of them conjured by the public at the height of their fame/infamy]], namely deeming them "shock rockers" (a label they resent, as they felt they never were trying to be shocking, but just doing what they wanted). Their graphic imagery and conceptual basis in critiquing and satirizing mainstream American media won them a reputation of a kind seldom seen before in music. In fact, the [[YouCanPanicNow [[MediaScaremongering moral panic]] against them was so great that they were blamed for the UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}} massacre by sections of the media under the belief that the killers had been inspired by their music. (Ironically, the killers hated them and saw them as sell-outs, and were fans of Music/{{KMFDM}} and Music/{{Rammstein}} instead.)

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