History Music / MarilynManson

6th May '16 10:09:03 AM aye_amber
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* AscendedFanboy: A young Manson (real name Brian Warner) appeared on an Creator/{{MTV}} program talking to a VJ about the band he was putting together. According to his autobiography, he also interviewed Music/TrentReznor in the late '80s while working as an amateur music journalist.

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* AscendedFanboy: A young Manson (real name Brian Warner) appeared on an Creator/{{MTV}} program talking to a VJ about the band he was putting together. According to his autobiography, he also interviewed Music/TrentReznor ''Trent Reznor'' in the late '80s while working as an amateur music journalist.



* RecordProducer: Manson has had a co-producer credit on every album, but he's always gotten assistance from others - Trent Reznor (''Portrait of an American Family'', ''Antichrist Superstar''[[note]]This one also included Sean Beavan and [[Music/SkinnyPuppy Dave Ogilvie]], from the NIN camp[[/note]]), [[Music/{{Soundgarden}} Michael]] [[Music/RedHotChiliPeppers Beinhorn]] (''Mechanical Animals''), [[Music/{{Oasis}} Dave Sardy]] (''Holy Wood''), Ben Grosse (''The Golden Age of Grotesque'', which was co-produced by bandmate Tim Skold), and others.

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* RecordProducer: Manson has had a co-producer credit on every album, but he's always gotten assistance from others - -- Trent Reznor (''Portrait of an American Family'', ''Antichrist Superstar''[[note]]This one also included Sean Beavan and [[Music/SkinnyPuppy Dave Ogilvie]], from the NIN camp[[/note]]), [[Music/{{Soundgarden}} Michael]] [[Music/RedHotChiliPeppers Beinhorn]] (''Mechanical Animals''), [[Music/{{Oasis}} Dave Sardy]] (''Holy Wood''), Ben Grosse (''The Golden Age of Grotesque'', which was co-produced by bandmate Tim Skold), and others.



* WeUsedToBeFriends: Manson was close friends with [[Music/NineInchNails Trent Reznor]], who got them on his Nothing Records label, produced their first two albums and generally helped promote them. Then, at some point they had a pretty drastic falling out, and despite a short reconciliation around 1999-2000 (enough for Manson to make a cameo in the "Starfuckers, Inc." video and play a concert together), they pretty quickly went back to not being on such good terms anymore. Trent took a potshot or two at Manson, mocking his "Personal Jesus" cover when responding to a fan's question, and Manson's still angry because the Nothing people lost the master tracks for his first three albums[[note]]This wasn't strictly Trent's fault, as he got involved in a lawsuit with his former manager and gave up the label. Also, Rob Sheridan had to completely re-do the artwork for the ''Pretty Hate Machine'' remaster because Gary Talpas' original was lost by the Nothing staff as well, so they weren't only incompetent towards Marilyn.[[/note]]. The whole feud's died down somewhat since, even if they're not gonna start being friendly again anytime soon.

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* WeUsedToBeFriends: Manson was close friends with [[Music/NineInchNails Trent Reznor]], Reznor,]] who got them on his Nothing Records label, produced their first two albums and generally helped promote them. Then, at some point they had a pretty drastic falling out, and despite a short reconciliation around 1999-2000 (enough for Manson to make a cameo in the "Starfuckers, Inc." video and play a concert together), they pretty quickly went back to not being on such good terms anymore. Trent took a potshot or two at Manson, mocking his "Personal Jesus" cover when responding to a fan's question, and Manson's still angry because the Nothing people lost the master tracks for his first three albums[[note]]This wasn't strictly Trent's fault, as he got involved in a lawsuit with his former manager and gave up the label. Also, Rob Sheridan had to completely re-do the artwork for the ''Pretty Hate Machine'' remaster because Gary Talpas' original was lost by the Nothing staff as well, so they weren't only incompetent towards Marilyn.[[/note]]. The whole feud's died down somewhat since, even if they're not gonna start being friendly again anytime soon.
1st Apr '16 10:02:45 PM aye_amber
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* BeliefMakesYouStupid and BlasphemousBoast: "The Fight Song" from ''Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath:''
--> ''I'm not a slave / for a God that doesn't exist!''



* BeliefMakesYouStupid and BlasphemousBoast: "The Fight Song" from ''Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath''
-->''I'm not a slave / for a God that doesn't exist!''
* BookEnds: Counting the hidden track, the two distorted "when you are suffering, know that I've betrayed you" at the start and end make ''Antichrist Superstar'' a perfect loop of the ''Music/TheWall'' variety.

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* BeliefMakesYouStupid and BlasphemousBoast: "The Fight Song" from ''Music/HolyWoodInTheShadowOfTheValleyOfDeath''
-->''I'm not a slave / for a God that doesn't exist!''
* BookEnds:
{{Bookends}}: Counting the hidden track, the two distorted "when you are suffering, know that I've betrayed you" at the start and end make ''Antichrist Superstar'' a perfect loop of the ''Music/TheWall'' variety.
1st Apr '16 9:57:34 PM aye_amber
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Manson and Twiggy and Manson and Johnny Depp. Possibly. None of them are 100% open about their sexualities, but Manson and Twiggy have, at the very least, performed oral sex on each other. None of them have claimed to be straight, bi, gay, pan or anything else. It's possible that Manson and Twiggy haven't been sexual since the 1990s. It's possible they're fucking as I type this.



* HarshVocals: Obviously. Live, sometimes they will even become harsher (especially "Antichrist Superstar")

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* HarshVocals: Obviously. Live, sometimes they will even become harsher (especially "Antichrist Superstar")Superstar").
* HeterosexualLifePartners: Manson and Twiggy and Manson and Johnny Depp. Possibly. None of them are 100% open about their sexualities, but Manson and Twiggy have, at the very least, performed oral sex on each other. None of them have claimed to be straight, bi, gay, pan or anything else. It's possible that Manson and Twiggy haven't been sexual since the 1990's. It's possible they're fucking as I type this.
1st Apr '16 9:53:30 PM aye_amber
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* {{Feghoot}}: Manson's autobiography ''The Long Hard Road Out of Hell'' featured an entire chapter about a girl he dated who had an unusual circular birthmark around her vagina. Though many events happen during this chapter, he does close it by stating that someone else he knew started dating her and "snatched her away like a greedy little Hobbit and indeed became the [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Lord of the Ring]]."

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* {{Feghoot}}: Manson's autobiography ''The Long Hard Road Out of Hell'' featured an entire chapter about a girl he dated who had an unusual circular birthmark around her vagina. Though many events happen during this chapter, he does close it by stating that someone else he knew started dating her and "snatched her away like a greedy little Hobbit and indeed became the [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Literature/{{The Lord of the Ring]]."Ring|s}}.
1st Apr '16 9:47:59 PM aye_amber
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* BigBrotherMentor: Manson to Jack and Kelly Osbourne. Jack's first time at a strip club was with Manson, even. He also made a conscious effort to try to be this for Paris Jackson. No word on how it went, however.



* BigBrotherMentor: Manson to Jack and Kelly Osbourne. Jack's first time at a strip club was with Manson, even. He also made a conscious effort to try to be this for Paris Jackson. No word on how it went, however.
29th Mar '16 3:15:21 PM wyattte
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* IncrediblyLongNote: More like Incredibly Long Scream. The live version of "Irresponsible Hate Anthem" on ''The Last Tour On Earth'' features Manson holding a "FUCK IIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!" for a good 20 seconds.
23rd Mar '16 10:09:32 PM aye_amber
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* WordSaladLyrics: Manson makes extensive use of contrasting imagery, such as religious idols, political icons and childhood figures, with grotesque sexuality and gun violence.

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* WordSaladLyrics: Manson makes extensive use of contrasting imagery, such as religious idols, political icons icons, and childhood figures, with grotesque sexuality and gun violence. violence.



* XMeetsY: Music/AliceCooper meets Music/NineInchNails, with a bit of Music/RobZombie.
* {{Yandere}} - Pops up in many of the songs about Manson's romantic life, because Manson is a yandere.

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* XMeetsY: JustForFun/XMeetsY: Music/AliceCooper meets Music/NineInchNails, with a bit of Music/RobZombie.
* {{Yandere}} - {{Yandere}}: Pops up in many of the songs about Manson's romantic life, because Manson is a yandere. one.



->''when all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed''

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->''when ->''When all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed''
18th Mar '16 2:31:52 PM aye_amber
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* {{Garfunkel}}: Olivia Newton Bundy and [=ZsaZsa=] Speck, the original bassist and keyboardist, respectively,


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* LesserStar: Olivia Newton Bundy and [=ZsaZsa=] Speck, the original bassist and keyboardist, respectively.
17th Mar '16 1:15:15 PM wyattte
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* HiddenTrack: ''Antichrist Superstar'' has the promisingly-titled "Empty Sounds Of Hate," and of course it's a series of distorted voices ending with [[BookEnds the same message that's heard at the very beginning of the album.]]
** ''Mechanical Animals'' had one that was accessed by putting the CD into a computer.
17th Mar '16 1:10:04 PM wyattte
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Due to the fact that the band name is also the lead singer's stage name, Marilyn Manson is one of the most notorious examples of IAmTheBand in existence. Many people are not, in fact, aware that they are a band and credit all the group's music to the singer alone. This has become more prominent over time, to the point where Marilyn Manson the person has become a household name, yet the other band members are known only by fans, ex-fans and (some) music critics. The number of them doesn't help -- Marilyn Manson's line up changes almost constantly, and they have gone through 17 guitarists, bassists, drummers and keyboardists in just 20 years. This has often been attributed by those who have worked with him to (among other things) Manson thinking, well, that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin he is the band]] and the others are just there to provide background scenery for him. As of the latest album however, it's been openly avoided, with Tyler Bates actually having quite a lot of power in the band alongside Manson, taking Twiggy's role as co-creator while Twiggy was busy marrying Laney Chantal.

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Due to the fact that the band name is also the lead singer's stage name, Marilyn Manson is one of the most notorious examples of IAmTheBand in existence. Many people are not, in fact, aware that they are a band and credit all the group's music to the singer alone. This has become more prominent over time, to the point where Marilyn Manson the person has become a household name, yet the other band members are known only by fans, ex-fans and (some) music critics. The number of them doesn't help -- Marilyn Manson's line up changes almost constantly, and [[RevolvingDoorBand they have gone through 17 guitarists, bassists, drummers and keyboardists in just 20 years. years.]] This has often been attributed by those who have worked with him to (among other things) Manson thinking, well, that [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin he is the band]] and the others are just there to provide background scenery for him. As of With the latest album however, it's been openly avoided, it was [[DefiedTrope defied]], with Tyler Bates actually having quite a lot of power in the band alongside Manson, taking Twiggy's role as co-creator while Twiggy was busy marrying Laney Chantal.
Chantal. Bates has since left to go back into film score, with Twiggy returning.



* ''Remix & Repent'' (1997) (EP)



* DarkIsNotEvil: His darkness and use of demonic imagery is just part of his image, his public persona. He really is a pretty nice guy.
** Unless you're one of his band mates.

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* DarkIsNotEvil: His darkness and use of demonic imagery is just part of his image, his public persona. He really is a pretty nice guy.
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guy. Unless you're one of his band mates.ex-bandmates.



** Also, the Born Villain [[InsistentTerminology trailer]] (which is actually set to Overneath The Path of Misery). If the random Macbeth quotes halting the song and the general insanity don't get you, [[spoiler: the eyeball in the vagina will]]. Also, it was co-written and directed by Creator/ShiaLaBeouf.

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** Also, the Born Villain [[InsistentTerminology trailer]] (which is actually set to Overneath "Overneath The Path of Misery).Misery"). If the random Macbeth quotes halting the song and the general insanity don't get you, [[spoiler: the eyeball in the vagina will]]. Also, it was co-written and directed by Creator/ShiaLaBeouf.



* RevolvingDoorBand

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* RevolvingDoorBandRevolvingDoorBand: You did read that LongList of former members at the top, right?



* VillainsActHeroesReact: This trope inspired Born Villain, with Manson bringing it up in interviews quite often. That's why he chooses to be the villain, because the villain is the one that fights for their beliefs, right or wrong, and tries to make a change.

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* VillainsActHeroesReact: This trope inspired Born Villain, ''Born Villain,'' with Manson bringing it up in interviews quite often. That's why he chooses to be the villain, because the villain is the one that fights for their beliefs, right or wrong, and tries to make a change.



-->'''[[https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3b5foc/marilyn_manson_ama/csj0sqo Reddit user]]:''' Are you and Trent Reznor cool?
-->'''Manson:''' I mean, I don't have a problem with him. I have a problem with some of the things he's done to me in my career. But at the same time, I have to give him credit where credit is due, as being inspiration when I was starting out and giving me my break. But we're not at odds with each other. I just don't have interest in being friends anymore.



* WordSaladLyrics

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* WordSaladLyricsWordSaladLyrics: Manson makes extensive use of contrasting imagery, such as religious idols, political icons and childhood figures, with grotesque sexuality and gun violence.




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->''when all of your wishes are granted, many of your dreams will be destroyed''
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