Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Music / LostProphets

Go To

OR

Added: 71

Changed: 105

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MistakenIdentity: When Ian Watkins was convicted of his crimes, some news outlets used a picture of H from the British pop group Music/{{Steps}}, whose real name is also Ian Watkins.

to:

* MistakenIdentity: MistakenForPedophile: When Ian Watkins was convicted of his crimes, some news outlets used a picture of H from the British pop group Music/{{Steps}}, whose real Music/{{Steps}} was attacked on Facebook and Twitter because ''his'' name is also Ian Watkins.


Added DiffLines:

** And the band's publisher: [[Film/TheGoonies Goonies Never Say Die]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MistakenIdentity: When Ian Watkins was convicted of his crimes, some news outlets used a picture of H from the British pop group Music/{{Steps}}, whose real name is also Ian Watkins.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moved


* CoverVersion: Among others, they covered [[Music/SavesTheDay Shoulder to the Wheel]], [[Music/DuranDuran A View to a Kill]], [[Music/TheCure Boys Don't Cry]], [[Music/JustinTimberlake Cry Me a River]], [[Music/{{INXS}} Need You Tonight]]...

to:

* CoverVersion: Among others, they covered [[Music/SavesTheDay Shoulder to the Wheel]], [[Music/DuranDuran A View to a Kill]], [[Music/TheCure [[Music/{{The Cure|Band}} Boys Don't Cry]], [[Music/JustinTimberlake Cry Me a River]], [[Music/{{INXS}} Need You Tonight]]...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
cut trope


* NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly: On their first album, elements of jazz and drum and bass sometimes popped up, along with hip-hop interludes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


* MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness: Usually a 6, sometimes crossing into the range of 7. They go down on the scale quite often, though.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WeUsedToBeFriends: The bandmembers' relationship with Ian Watkins was severly tested by his drug abuse, which made him unreliable to the point where the band almost broke up (bassist Stuart Richardson revealed that he once beat Ian up on a tour bus for missing a show). Ian grew distant from his fellow bandmates, staying in Wales while they were in America, so they barely saw him. Following Ian's conviction of appalling sex crimes, the other bandmembers completely washed their hands of him and started Music/NoDevotion. Guitarist Lee Gaze even said that because Ian tarnished the band so badly, he can't even be proud of his past accomplishments, never mind listen to their music. They said that had they known about Ian's crimes, they would have killed him on the spot.

to:

* WeUsedToBeFriends: The bandmembers' relationship with Ian Watkins was severly severely tested by his drug abuse, which made him unreliable to the point where the band almost broke up (bassist Stuart Richardson revealed that he once beat Ian up on a tour bus for missing a show). Ian grew distant from his fellow bandmates, staying in Wales while they were in America, so they barely saw him. Following Ian's conviction of appalling sex crimes, the other bandmembers completely washed their hands of him and started Music/NoDevotion. Guitarist Lee Gaze even said that because Ian tarnished the band so badly, he can't even be proud of his past accomplishments, never mind listen to their music. They said that had they known about Ian's crimes, they would have killed him on the spot.

Added: 776

Removed: 79

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BadassCrew[=/=]BadassBoast[=/=]TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: "We Bring An Arsenal".


Added DiffLines:

* WeUsedToBeFriends: The bandmembers' relationship with Ian Watkins was severly tested by his drug abuse, which made him unreliable to the point where the band almost broke up (bassist Stuart Richardson revealed that he once beat Ian up on a tour bus for missing a show). Ian grew distant from his fellow bandmates, staying in Wales while they were in America, so they barely saw him. Following Ian's conviction of appalling sex crimes, the other bandmembers completely washed their hands of him and started Music/NoDevotion. Guitarist Lee Gaze even said that because Ian tarnished the band so badly, he can't even be proud of his past accomplishments, never mind listen to their music. They said that had they known about Ian's crimes, they would have killed him on the spot.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[OneSteveLimit One Mike Limit]]: Averted with guitarist Mike Lewis and original drummer Mike Chiplin.

to:

* [[OneSteveLimit One Mike Limit]]: OneSteveLimit: Averted with guitarist Mike ''Mike'' Lewis and original drummer Mike ''Mike'' Chiplin.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
I'm putting my foot down. At the very least, we should not dance around the fact that he was a nonce.


In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].

to:

In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges involving child pornography and molestation brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].


In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].

to:

In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]].  Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].

to:

In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]].  Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].

to:

In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]].  Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Ro CEJ can't be potholed anymore.


In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].

to:

In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].

to:

In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


%% * LyricalDissonance: "Rooftops", big time.

to:

%% * LyricalDissonance: "Rooftops", big time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


The band's popularity arrived with their second album, ''Start Something'', particulary with the single "Last Train Home". Following the tour for this album, Mike Chiplin left the band. Most of the drumming on their next album, ''Liberation Transmission'' was done by session drummer Josh Freese, although their new official drummer Ilan Rubin played on two songs. ''Liberation Transmission'' and its leading single "Rooftops" were also fairly succesful, altough some older fans were not pleased with the album's LighterAndSofter direction.

Rubin left the band in 2009, altough not before he completed drums on all songs on their fourth album, ''The Betrayed''. He subsequently went to play with NineInchNails, Music/{{Paramore}} and AngelsAndAirwaves and was replaced by Luke Johnson. Despite a style that is more typically likened to bands from the U.S.A. (or perhaps because of it), they were much more popular in the U.K. than in the U.S., leading them to [[NoExportForYou not release their 4th album in North America]]. However, they signed a new deal, leading to their 5th album, ''Weapons'', having a June 2012 U.S. release.

to:

The band's popularity arrived with their second album, ''Start Something'', particulary particularly with the single "Last Train Home". Following the tour for this album, Mike Chiplin left the band. Most of the drumming on their next album, ''Liberation Transmission'' was done by session drummer Josh Freese, although their new official drummer Ilan Rubin played on two songs. ''Liberation Transmission'' and its leading single "Rooftops" were also fairly succesful, successful, altough some older fans were not pleased with the album's LighterAndSofter direction.

Rubin left the band in 2009, altough although not before he completed drums on all songs on their fourth album, ''The Betrayed''. He subsequently went to play with NineInchNails, Music/NineInchNails, Music/{{Paramore}} and AngelsAndAirwaves Music/AngelsAndAirwaves and was replaced by Luke Johnson. Despite a style that is more typically likened to bands from the U.S.A. (or perhaps because of it), they were much more popular in the U.K. than in the U.S., leading them to [[NoExportForYou not release their 4th album in North America]]. However, they signed a new deal, leading to their 5th album, ''Weapons'', having a June 2012 U.S. release.

Added: 1372

Changed: 1201

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Formed in 1997 by lead singer Ian Watkins, bassist Mike Lewis (who switched to guitar), guitarist Lee Gaze and drummer Mike Chiplin (departed in 2005), they quickly gained attention via touring, signing their first deal in 1999. They released their first album, ''Thefakesoundofprogress'', in 2000.

For most of their existence, the band consisted of Watkins (vocals), Lewis (rhythm guitar), Gaze (lead guitar), Stuart Richardson (bass), Jamie Oliver (keyboards, turntables, backing vocals, [[MetalScream metal screams]]) and whatever drummer they could find (first Mike Chiplin, then Ilan Rubin and finally Luke Johnson).

Despite a style that is more typically likened to bands from the U.S.A. (or perhaps because of it), they were much more popular in the U.K. than in the U.S., leading them to [[NoExportForYou not release their 4th album in North America]]. However, they signed a new deal, leading to their 5th album, ''Weapons'', having a June 2012 U.S. release.

to:

Formed in 1997 by lead singer Ian Watkins, bassist Mike Lewis (who later switched to guitar), guitarist Lee Gaze and drummer Mike Chiplin (departed in 2005), they quickly gained attention via touring, signing their first deal in 1999. 1999.

The band was found by two members of hardcore band Public Disturbance, guitarist Mike Lewis and drummer Ian Watkins. Original line-up consisted of Watkins on vocals, Lewis on bass, Lee Gaze on lead guitar and Mike Chiplin on drums. Although Watkins and Lewis originally had Lostprophets (then stylized as Lozt Prophetz) as a side project, both eventually left Public Disturbance to focus on their new band.

Within their first three years of existence, they expanded to six-piece with addition of bassist Stuart Richardson (while Lewis switched to rhythm gutiar) and turntablist [=DJ=] Stepzak.
They released their first album, ''Thefakesoundofprogress'', in 2000.

For most of
2000 (by then they already wrote their existence, the band consisted of Watkins (vocals), Lewis (rhythm guitar), Gaze (lead guitar), Stuart Richardson (bass), Jamie Oliver (keyboards, turntables, backing vocals, name as Lostprophets). Stepzak was subsequently replaced by keyboardist / [[MetalScream metal screams]]) and whatever screamer]] Jamie Oliver. The line-up then remained the same, aside from drummer they could find (first position.

The band's popularity arrived with their second album, ''Start Something'', particulary with the single "Last Train Home". Following the tour for this album,
Mike Chiplin, then Chiplin left the band. Most of the drumming on their next album, ''Liberation Transmission'' was done by session drummer Josh Freese, although their new official drummer Ilan Rubin played on two songs. ''Liberation Transmission'' and finally its leading single "Rooftops" were also fairly succesful, altough some older fans were not pleased with the album's LighterAndSofter direction.

Rubin left the band in 2009, altough not before he completed drums on all songs on their fourth album, ''The Betrayed''. He subsequently went to play with NineInchNails, Music/{{Paramore}} and AngelsAndAirwaves and was replaced by
Luke Johnson).

Johnson. Despite a style that is more typically likened to bands from the U.S.A. (or perhaps because of it), they were much more popular in the U.K. than in the U.S., leading them to [[NoExportForYou not release their 4th album in North America]]. However, they signed a new deal, leading to their 5th album, ''Weapons'', having a June 2012 U.S. release.
release.


Added DiffLines:

* CoverVersion: Among others, they covered [[Music/SavesTheDay Shoulder to the Wheel]], [[Music/DuranDuran A View to a Kill]], [[Music/TheCure Boys Don't Cry]], [[Music/JustinTimberlake Cry Me a River]], [[Music/{{INXS}} Need You Tonight]]...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Formed in 1997 by lead singer Ian Watkins, bassist Mike Lewis (who switched to guitar), guitarist Lee Gaze and drummer Mike Chiplin (departed in 2005), they quickly gained attention via touring, signing their first deal in 1999. They released their first album, ''Music/Thefakesoundofprogress'', in 2000.

to:

Formed in 1997 by lead singer Ian Watkins, bassist Mike Lewis (who switched to guitar), guitarist Lee Gaze and drummer Mike Chiplin (departed in 2005), they quickly gained attention via touring, signing their first deal in 1999. They released their first album, ''Music/Thefakesoundofprogress'', ''Thefakesoundofprogress'', in 2000.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Formed in 1997 by lead singer Ian Watkins, bassist Mike Lewis (who switched to guitar), guitarist Lee Gaze and drummer Mike Chiplin (departed in 2005), they quickly gained attention via touring, signing their first deal in 1999. They released their first album, ''Thefakesoundofprogress'', in 2000.

to:

Formed in 1997 by lead singer Ian Watkins, bassist Mike Lewis (who switched to guitar), guitarist Lee Gaze and drummer Mike Chiplin (departed in 2005), they quickly gained attention via touring, signing their first deal in 1999. They released their first album, ''Thefakesoundofprogress'', ''Music/Thefakesoundofprogress'', in 2000.



In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name [[Music/NoDevotion No Devotion]]. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].

to:

In October 2013, the group publicly announced that they could no longer continue to make or perform music as Lostprophets in light of the serious and disturbing criminal charges brought against Watkins the prior year, which he has since pleaded guilty to. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we're going to say on the subject]]. Subsequently, all the band members except Watkins recruited new singer [[Music/{{Thursday}} Geoff Rickly]], and regrouped under the name [[Music/NoDevotion No Devotion]].Music/NoDevotion. Their website can be found [[http://nodevotion.com/ here]].



** "We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan"'s title references a line from Film/ThingsToDoInDenverWhenYoureDead.

to:

** "We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan"'s title references a line from Film/ThingsToDoInDenverWhenYoureDead.''Film/ThingsToDoInDenverWhenYoureDead''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** However, the band has reportedly gotten back together and started work on a new project, which will be a lot more influenced by PostPunk and [[NewWaveMusic New Wave]].

to:

** However, the band has reportedly gotten eventually got back together and started work on [[Music/NoDevotion a new project, project]], which will be is a lot more influenced by PostPunk and [[NewWaveMusic New Wave]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Too complainy, plus that trope is getting revamped.


* PolishTheTurd: In Allmusic's review of ''The Fake Sound of Progress'':
-->The only redeeming quality is the great production by Michael Barbiero, that allows all instruments to be heard perfectly in all their ennui-inducing glory, proving that no matter how much you polish up a turd, it's still a turd.

Added: 183

Changed: 359

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* PrecisionFStrike: ''Start Something'' is entirely free of profanity for most of the album. Then a voicemail message comes up as an interlude after "A Million Miles", and the first thing we hear is...
--> ''Hey you fuckin' bitches!''

to:

* PrecisionFStrike: PrecisionFStrike:
**
''Start Something'' is entirely free of profanity for most of the album. Then a voicemail message comes up as an interlude after "A Million Miles", and the first thing we hear is...
--> ---> ''Hey you fuckin' bitches!''bitches!''
** "Everyday Combat", the first track of ''Liberation Transmission'', ends with a shouted "Fuck!". The rest of the album is completely profanity-free.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* PolishTheTurd: In Allmusic's review of ''The Fake Sound of Progress'':
-->The only redeeming quality is the great production by Michael Barbiero, that allows all instruments to be heard perfectly in all their ennui-inducing glory, proving that no matter how much you polish up a turd, it's still a turd.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ArcWords: The phrase "make a move" comes up on three songs on ''Start Something''. First it shows up on "Make a Move," then on the album's title track, and then finally on "Sway...".

to:

* ArcWords: The phrase "make a move" comes up on three songs on ''Start Something''. First it shows up on "Make a Move," then on the album's title track, and then finally on "Sway...". It then shows up in "Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)" on the next album.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Context required.


* LyricalDissonance: "Rooftops", big time.

to:

%% * LyricalDissonance: "Rooftops", big time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Adding quote.

Added DiffLines:

->''But we sing, if we're going nowhere''\\
''Yeah, we sing, if it's not enough''\\
''And we sing, sing without a reason''\\
''To ever fall in love''
-->--"Last Train Home"
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
As this wiki does not have a policy of Un Personing people, one tropers unilateral decision to add this note is invalid.


%%As Watkins is the sole lyricist for the band, we feel it's inappropriate to have the normal quotation of a song lyric here for obvious reasons.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


'''Lostprophets''' was an AlternativeRock band from Wales. Musically, they combined Emo, NuMetal, AlternativeMetal, PostHardcore, HardRock, and PopPunk.

to:

'''Lostprophets''' was an AlternativeRock band from Wales. Musically, they combined Emo, NuMetal, AlternativeMetal, PostHardcore, HardRock, and PopPunk.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Let's not trope real life appearances.


* {{Bishonen}}: [[CastFullOfPrettyBoys The entire band]], though major props go to Ian Watkins.



* CastFullOfPrettyBoys: [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EP4pwhGly-I/T3b4SL54JdI/AAAAAAAABvU/iWj2Ynub-7A/s1600/lostprophets1.jpg Oh yes]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
That shounds wrong. (Heh.)


* NewSoundAlbum: ''Liberation Transmission'' saw the band move from AlternativeMetal to AlternativeRock / PostHardcore, had [[LighterAndSofter more polished shound]], removed scratching and samples and featured only very little screaming. Naturally, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some older fans were not pleased]]. Their subsequent two albums then combined the elements from this one and previous albums.

to:

* NewSoundAlbum: ''Liberation Transmission'' saw the band move from AlternativeMetal to AlternativeRock / PostHardcore, had [[LighterAndSofter more polished shound]], sound]], removed scratching and samples and featured only very little screaming. Naturally, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks some older fans were not pleased]]. Their subsequent two albums then combined the elements from this one and previous albums.

Top