History Music / LedZeppelin

21st Mar '17 1:00:56 PM Theatre_Maven_3695
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But, as with every mega-successful and influential band, there are downsides. Negative marks on their record include Page's habit of lifting lyrics from old blues songs without credit (which led to the occasional lawsuits), their occasionally embarrassing lyrics (they referenced ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' about thirty years before [[Film/LordOfTheRings the movies]] made it [[FantasyGhetto cool to do that]]), the band inevitably allowing success to go to their heads and descending into overblown excess post-1975, and the infamous 1976 {{Rockumentary}} film ''Film/TheSongRemainsTheSame'', commonly cited as one of the [[SoBadItsGood worst concert films ever]], thanks to the sub-par performances and self-indulgent [[ClicheStorm fantasy sequences]]. Also to be mentioned is their continued refusal to allow their songs into rhythm games such as ''VideoGame/GuitarHero'' and ''VideoGame/RockBand''. Although, if you're going to risk severely cramping your hand attempting a Jimmy Page solo, you might as well play the real notes on an actual guitar.

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But, as with every mega-successful and influential band, there are downsides. Negative marks on their record include Page's habit of lifting lyrics from old blues songs without credit (which led to the occasional lawsuits), their occasionally embarrassing lyrics (they referenced ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' about thirty years before [[Film/LordOfTheRings the movies]] made it [[FantasyGhetto cool to do that]]), the band inevitably allowing success to go to their heads and descending into overblown excess post-1975, and the infamous 1976 {{Rockumentary}} film ''Film/TheSongRemainsTheSame'', commonly cited as one of the [[SoBadItsGood worst concert films ever]], thanks to the sub-par performances and self-indulgent [[ClicheStorm fantasy sequences]]. Also to be mentioned is their continued refusal to allow their songs into rhythm games such as ''VideoGame/GuitarHero'' and ''VideoGame/RockBand''. Although, if you're going to risk severely cramping your hand attempting a Jimmy Page solo, you might as well play the real notes on an actual guitar.
18th Mar '17 4:48:51 PM DavidDelony
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** Jimmy Page incorporated Music/ChuckBerry's duckwalk into his stage moves.

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** Jimmy Page incorporated performed Music/ChuckBerry's duckwalk into his stage moves.at concerts.
20th Feb '17 12:51:04 PM bt8257
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Long story short: Led Zeppelin formed in 1968 after Music/TheYardbirds disintegrated and Jimmy Page recruited three other lads to satisfy contractual obligations for The Yardbirds, naming themselves [[SpiritualSuccessor The New Yardbirds]]. The band was originally to be a {{Supergroup}} consisting of Page, Music/JeffBeck, Nicky Hopkins on piano, [[Music/TheWho Keith Moon and John Entwistle]], and possibly with Donovan as lead vocalist. They actually recorded one song (but with John Paul Jones on bass instead, because Entwistle couldn't make the session) called "Beck's Bolero", which made its way onto The Jeff Beck Group's ''Truth''. The group never amounted to more, as Entwistle and Moon allegedly said it would go over "like a lead balloon". After Chris Dreja threatened legal action, Page -- remembering Moon and Entwistle's quote -- changed the name from The New Yardbirds to Led Zeppelin. They went on to release many albums, tour heavily, become one of the most successful and famous bands in RockAndRoll, be a significant infleunce on HeavyMetal, and generally rock so hard as to blow people's minds and inspire them to form bands of their own. They broke up in 1980 after drummer John Bonham asphyxiated on vomit after a day of binge alcoholism. They were famously trashed at first by critics in TheSeventies but gained a huge fanbase, and those critics (particularly ''Rolling Stone'' magazine) have since [[VindicatedByHistory reversed themselves]] and realized that, hey, Led Zeppelin are awesome after all.

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Long story short: Led Zeppelin formed in 1968 after Music/TheYardbirds disintegrated and Jimmy Page recruited three other lads to satisfy contractual obligations for The Yardbirds, naming themselves [[SpiritualSuccessor The New Yardbirds]]. The band was originally to be a {{Supergroup}} consisting of Page, Music/JeffBeck, Nicky Hopkins on piano, [[Music/TheWho Keith Moon and John Entwistle]], and possibly with Donovan as lead vocalist. They actually recorded one song (but with John Paul Jones on bass instead, because Entwistle couldn't make the session) called "Beck's Bolero", which made its way onto The Jeff Beck Group's ''Truth''. The group never amounted to more, as Entwistle and Moon allegedly said it would go over "like a lead balloon". After Chris Dreja threatened legal action, Page -- remembering Moon and Entwistle's quote -- changed the name from The New Yardbirds to Led Zeppelin. They went on to release many albums, tour heavily, become one of the most successful and famous bands in RockAndRoll, be a significant infleunce on HeavyMetal, and generally rock so hard as to blow people's minds and inspire them to form bands of their own. They broke up in 1980 after drummer John Bonham asphyxiated on vomit after a day of binge alcoholism. They were famously trashed at first by critics in TheSeventies but gained a huge fanbase, and those critics (particularly ''Rolling Stone'' magazine) have since [[VindicatedByHistory reversed themselves]] and realized that, hey, that Led Zeppelin are awesome after all.
27th Dec '16 12:00:09 AM gjjones
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* DownerEnding: John Bonham's death from a drug overdose at the age of 35.

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* DownerEnding: John Bonham's death from a drug overdose at the age of 35.32.
26th Dec '16 11:59:55 PM gjjones
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* JerkAss: The executioner in "Gallows Pole" accepts monetary and sexual bribes from a condemned prisoner's family and then goes on to execute him ''anyway''. Notably, this is a change from the traditional ending of the song, in which the prisoner was released at the end. Could be considered AnAesop against capital punishment, although it's not clear if the band intended it this way.

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* JerkAss: {{Jerkass}}: The executioner in "Gallows Pole" accepts monetary and sexual bribes from a condemned prisoner's family and then goes on to execute him ''anyway''. Notably, this is a change from the traditional ending of the song, in which the prisoner was released at the end. Could be considered AnAesop against capital punishment, although it's not clear if the band intended it this way.


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* DownerEnding: John Bonham's death from a drug overdose at the age of 35.
21st Dec '16 7:49:39 PM mlsmithca
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But, as with every mega-successful and influential band, there are downsides. Negative marks on their record include Page's habit of lifting lyrics from old blues songs without credit (which led to the occasional lawsuits), their [[{{YMMV}} occasionally embarrassing lyrics]] (they referenced ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' about thirty years before [[Film/LordOfTheRings the movies]] made it [[FantasyGhetto cool to do that]]), the band inevitably allowing success to go to their heads and descending into overblown excess post-1975, and the infamous 1976 {{Rockumentary}} film ''Film/TheSongRemainsTheSame'', commonly cited as one of the [[SoBadItsGood worst concert films ever]], thanks to the sub-par performances and self-indulgent [[ClicheStorm fantasy sequences]]. Also to be mentioned is their continued refusal to allow their songs into rhythm games such as ''VideoGame/GuitarHero'' and ''VideoGame/RockBand''. Although, if you're going to risk severely cramping your hand attempting a Jimmy Page solo, you might as well play the real notes on an actual guitar.

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But, as with every mega-successful and influential band, there are downsides. Negative marks on their record include Page's habit of lifting lyrics from old blues songs without credit (which led to the occasional lawsuits), their [[{{YMMV}} occasionally embarrassing lyrics]] lyrics (they referenced ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' about thirty years before [[Film/LordOfTheRings the movies]] made it [[FantasyGhetto cool to do that]]), the band inevitably allowing success to go to their heads and descending into overblown excess post-1975, and the infamous 1976 {{Rockumentary}} film ''Film/TheSongRemainsTheSame'', commonly cited as one of the [[SoBadItsGood worst concert films ever]], thanks to the sub-par performances and self-indulgent [[ClicheStorm fantasy sequences]]. Also to be mentioned is their continued refusal to allow their songs into rhythm games such as ''VideoGame/GuitarHero'' and ''VideoGame/RockBand''. Although, if you're going to risk severely cramping your hand attempting a Jimmy Page solo, you might as well play the real notes on an actual guitar.
21st Dec '16 6:37:53 PM bt8257
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* LoudnessWar: Averted on all issues of their albums to date. Jimmy Page is very much a perfectionist about sound quality and won't release something that's brickwalled. While original vinyl editions are often highly prized for obvious reasons, Page recently remastered their entire catalogue himself and it sounds great. George Marino's remasterings from TheNineties sound good too. Occasionally, compilations suffer from this, however; ''Mothership'' is a particularly notable example.

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* LoudnessWar: Averted on all issues of their albums to date. Jimmy Page is very much a perfectionist about sound quality and won't release something that's brickwalled. While original vinyl editions are often highly prized for obvious reasons, Page recently remastered their entire catalogue himself and it sounds great. George Marino's remasterings from TheNineties sound good too. Occasionally, compilations suffer from this, however; ''Mothership'' is a particularly notable egregious example.



** 4: Songs that contrast light and heavy, such as "What is and What Should Never Be" and "Over the Hills and Far Away", as well as "Kashmir".

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** 4: Songs that contrast are both light and heavy, such as "What is Is and What Should Never Be" and Be", "Over the Hills and Far Away", as well as and "Kashmir".



* NonAppearingTitle: "Immigrant Song", "Out on the Tiles", "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp", "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper", "Black Dog", "The Battle of Evermore", "Four Sticks", "Over the Hills and Far Away", "The Crunge", "D'yer Mak'er", "The Rover", "Trampled Under Foot", "Boogie with Stu", "Black Country Woman", "Sick Again", "Candy Store Rock", "Hots on for Nowhere", "Tea for One", "Fool in the Rain," "Carouselambra", "Ozone Baby", and "Wearing and Tearing".

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* NonAppearingTitle: "Immigrant Song", "Out on the Tiles", "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp", "Hats Off to (Roy) Harper", "Black Dog", "The Battle of Evermore", "Four Sticks", "Over the Hills and Far Away", "The Crunge", "D'yer Mak'er", "The Rover", "Trampled Under Foot", "Boogie with Stu", "Black Country Woman", "Sick Again", "Candy Store Rock", "Hots on On for Nowhere", "Tea for One", "Fool in the Rain," Rain", "Carouselambra", "Ozone Baby", and "Wearing and Tearing".



** The most notable bit of plagiarism was "Lemon Song", a song ripped off note for note from Music/HowlinWolf's "Killing Floor". What makes it particularly jarring is that, by the time it was recorded for ''Music/LedZeppelinII'', the song was already a hit amongst the rock community, with it being covered by other famous acts of the period like Albert King, Electric Flag and [[Music/JimiHendrix The Jimi Hendrix Experience]], with the latter using it to open their famous set at the Monterey International Pop Festival. It didn't help that the band even referred to the song by its original title at various points before recording it. Chess Records sued in the early seventies and reached a settlement that saw Wolf's name added to the writing credits.

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** The most notable bit of plagiarism was "Lemon "The Lemon Song", a song ripped off note for note from Music/HowlinWolf's "Killing Floor". What makes it particularly jarring is that, by the time it was recorded for ''Music/LedZeppelinII'', the song was already a hit amongst the rock community, with it being covered by other famous acts of the period like Albert King, Electric Flag and [[Music/JimiHendrix The Jimi Hendrix Experience]], Music/JimiHendrix Experience, with the latter using it to open their famous set at the Monterey International Pop Festival. It didn't help that the band even referred to the song by its original title at various points before recording it. Chess Records sued in the early seventies and reached a settlement that saw Wolf's name added to the writing credits.



* PrematureEncapsulation: ''Houses of the Holy'', whose title track was held until their next release, ''Physical Graffiti''.

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* PrematureEncapsulation: ''Houses of the Holy'', whose title track {{title track}} was held until their next release, ''Physical Graffiti''.album, ''Music/PhysicalGraffiti''.



** "What is and What Should Never Be" is often incorrectly listed on listening / downloading sites as "Tomorrow".

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** "What is Is and What Should Never Be" is often incorrectly listed on listening / downloading sites as "Tomorrow".



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** Most famously, the ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' references in "Ramble On" and "The Battle of Evermore".

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* ShoutOut:
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ShoutOut: Most famously, the ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' references in "Ramble On" and "The Battle of Evermore".
21st Dec '16 6:30:28 PM bt8257
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The band have written their fair share of famous classic hard rock songs that sometimes get overplayed like hell on AOR / "classic rock" radio for new generations to get annoyed, such as: "Dazed and Confused" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc total]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ffBRhtWjEQ cover!]]), "Whole Lotta Love" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8_HuQ0b34 cover]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkQpZpFLpv4 as well!]]), "Heartbreaker"[[SiameseTwinSongs /]] "Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)", "Immigrant Song", "Black Dog", "Rock and Roll", "Stairway to Heaven", "When the Levee Breaks" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhEa8vuP6U cover too!]]), "Kashmir" and "Trampled Under Foot". Don't peg them as simple noise-merchants, though, because their discography's really varied and sometimes experimental, ranging from BluesRock and acoustic FolkRock to Eastern-influenced material, {{Funk}}, ProgressiveRock and weirder. They're widely respected for their superior musical abilities, eclectic tastes, and legendary concerts and well-known for their infamous exploits (such as the "[[NoodleIncident shark episode]]"), among others. Also, pretty much any rock and metal band formed since owes them at least a bit, whether they admit to it or not.

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The band have written their fair share of famous classic hard rock songs that sometimes get ''extremely'' overplayed like hell on AOR / "classic AOR[=/=]"classic rock" radio for new generations to get annoyed, such as: "Dazed and Confused" ([[https://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc total]][[https://www.com/watch?v=yO2n7QoyieM Dazed and Confused]]", "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ffBRhtWjEQ cover!]]), "Whole com/watch?v=0bcIjILqORM Whole Lotta Love" ([[https://www.Love]]", "Heartbreaker"[[SiameseTwinSongs /]]"Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)", "Immigrant Song", "Black Dog", "Rock and Roll", "Stairway to Heaven", "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM8_HuQ0b34 cover]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkQpZpFLpv4 as well!]]), "Heartbreaker"[[SiameseTwinSongs /]] "Living Loving Maid (She's Just a Woman)", "Immigrant Song", "Black Dog", "Rock and Roll", "Stairway to Heaven", "When com/watch?v=FFDYuO53BUk When the Levee Breaks" ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swhEa8vuP6U cover too!]]), Breaks]]", "Kashmir" and "Trampled Under Foot". Don't peg them as simple noise-merchants, though, because their discography's really varied and sometimes experimental, ranging from BluesRock and acoustic FolkRock to Eastern-influenced material, {{Funk}}, ProgressiveRock and weirder. They're widely respected for their superior musical abilities, eclectic tastes, and legendary concerts and well-known for their infamous exploits (such as the "[[NoodleIncident shark episode]]"), among others. Also, pretty much any rock and metal band formed since owes them at least a bit, whether they admit to it or not.
21st Dec '16 11:16:29 AM ritzoreo
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But, as with every mega-successful and influential band, there are downsides. Negative marks on their record include Page's habit of lifting lyrics from old blues songs without credit (which led to the occasional lawsuits), his occasionally embarrassing lyrics (they referenced ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' about thirty years before [[Film/LordOfTheRings the movies]] made it [[FantasyGhetto cool to do that]]), the band inevitably allowing success to go to their heads and descending into overblown excess post-1975, and the infamous 1976 {{Rockumentary}} film ''Film/TheSongRemainsTheSame'', commonly cited as one of the [[SoBadItsGood worst concert films ever]], thanks to the sub-par performances and self-indulgent [[ClicheStorm fantasy sequences]]. Also to be mentioned is their continued refusal to allow their songs into rhythm games such as ''VideoGame/GuitarHero'' and ''VideoGame/RockBand''. Although, if you're going to risk severely cramping your hand attempting a Jimmy Page solo, you might as well play the real notes on an actual guitar.

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But, as with every mega-successful and influential band, there are downsides. Negative marks on their record include Page's habit of lifting lyrics from old blues songs without credit (which led to the occasional lawsuits), his their [[{{YMMV}} occasionally embarrassing lyrics lyrics]] (they referenced ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' about thirty years before [[Film/LordOfTheRings the movies]] made it [[FantasyGhetto cool to do that]]), the band inevitably allowing success to go to their heads and descending into overblown excess post-1975, and the infamous 1976 {{Rockumentary}} film ''Film/TheSongRemainsTheSame'', commonly cited as one of the [[SoBadItsGood worst concert films ever]], thanks to the sub-par performances and self-indulgent [[ClicheStorm fantasy sequences]]. Also to be mentioned is their continued refusal to allow their songs into rhythm games such as ''VideoGame/GuitarHero'' and ''VideoGame/RockBand''. Although, if you're going to risk severely cramping your hand attempting a Jimmy Page solo, you might as well play the real notes on an actual guitar.
16th Nov '16 3:03:33 PM KenKevinStriker
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* HopeSpot: The 1980 tour of Europe. Three years after their doomed 1977 tour the band was on the road again and were rejuvenated by punk, which motivated them to cut down on the outrageous solos, jamming, clothing and effects for a more stripped down approach reminiscent of their earlier tours. Even better, Bonham was pulling himself out of his downward spiral of heroin and the band was looking forward to touring America again. Then Bonham had too much to drink and died in his sleep.

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* HopeSpot: The 1980 tour of Europe. Three years after their doomed 1977 tour the band was on the road again and were rejuvenated by punk, which motivated them to cut down on the outrageous solos, jamming, clothing and effects for a more stripped down approach reminiscent of their earlier tours. Even better, Bonham Page was pulling himself out of his downward spiral of heroin and the band was looking forward to touring America again. Then Bonham had too much to drink and died in his sleep.
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