History Music / KurtCobain

9th Nov '17 2:35:59 PM XFllo
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* NoBadassToHisValet: His daughter Frances has admitted to never really being a fan of Nirvana, instead preferring bands like Music/{{Oasis}}. She has stated she likes "Territorial Pissings" and "Dumb", and she does personally put effort into selecting songs and designing album covers for compilations now that she has control over Kurt's estate.
8th Nov '17 6:20:41 PM lilithmercy
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* NoBadassToHisValet: His daughter Frances has admitted to never really being a fan of Nirvana, instead preferring bands like Music/{{Oasis}}. She has stated she likes "Territorial Pissings" and "Dumb", and she does personally put effort into selecting songs and designing album covers for compilations now that she has control over Kurt's estate.


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** Taken UpToEleven after jocks started coming to their shows once the band broke through. In Utero is intentionally even noisier than Nevermind in an attempt to get some of the mainstream fans to go away.
8th Nov '17 6:46:21 AM XFllo
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8th Nov '17 6:37:42 AM XFllo
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A little public service announcement that we at Wiki/TVTropes would be very remiss not to make here: If you're feeling suicidal, ''please'' [[UsefulNotes/SuicidePrevention get help immediately.]] Talk to a loved one at the very least and let them know how you're feeling. [[YouAreNotAlone There]] ''[[YouAreNotAlone is]]'' [[YouAreNotAlone help out there]], no matter what you might believe.

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A little public service announcement that we at Wiki/TVTropes would be very remiss not to make here: If you're feeling suicidal, ''please'' [[UsefulNotes/SuicidePrevention get help immediately.]] Talk to a loved one at the very least and let them know how you're feeling. [[YouAreNotAlone There]] ''[[YouAreNotAlone is]]'' [[YouAreNotAlone There is help out there]], no matter what you might believe.
8th Nov '17 6:37:05 AM XFllo
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Sadly, he felt his overnight success was embarrassing. He always wanted to be famous, but within alternative rock, not in the mainstream where people could accuse him of "selling out". He tried to do everything to avoid such connotations, even going so far as to release an album meant to alienate the newer fanbase ([[SpringtimeForHitler which wound up having the opposite effect]]), but Cobain sank away further into [[AddledAddict drug addiction]] and depression until he finally [[AteHisGun offed]] [[DrivenToSuicide himself]] on April 5, 1994. Much of the fan-base [[YokoOhNo blames his widow]], Music/CourtneyLove, though Kurt had already alluded and flirted with suicide all throughout his life, so it actually was pretty much [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadowed]].

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Sadly, he felt his overnight success was embarrassing. He always wanted to be famous, but within alternative rock, not in the mainstream where people could accuse him of "selling out". He tried to do everything to avoid such connotations, even going so far as to release an album meant to alienate the newer fanbase ([[SpringtimeForHitler which wound up having the opposite effect]]), but Cobain sank away further into [[AddledAddict drug addiction]] addiction and depression until he finally [[AteHisGun offed]] [[DrivenToSuicide himself]] offed himself on April 5, 1994. Much of the fan-base [[YokoOhNo blames his widow]], Music/CourtneyLove, though Kurt had already alluded and flirted with suicide all throughout his life, so it actually was pretty much [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadowed]].
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!! Tropes relating to all things Kurt Cobain:

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!! Tropes relating to all things Kurt Cobain:
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* BrokenAce: A rock star adored by millions of fans who suffered from depression and bipolar disorder, which, coupled with his heroin addiction, led him to suicide.
* BungledSuicide: In March of 1994 he overdosed on champagne and Rohypnol. After five days in the hospital, he was released. Fans wrote it off as typical rock star behavior—until Kurt AteHisGun a month later, providing them with a moment of FridgeHorror when they realized that the overdose was in all likelihood a suicide attempt.
* CarefulWithThatAxe and GutturalGrowler: One of his vocal trademarks.
* DownerEnding: His tragic suicide at the age of 27.
* DreadfulMusician: In his early days.

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%% * BrokenAce: A rock star adored by millions of fans who suffered from depression and bipolar disorder, which, coupled with his heroin addiction, led him to suicide.
CarefulWithThatAxe
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* BungledSuicide: In March of 1994 he overdosed on champagne and Rohypnol. After five days in the hospital, he was released. Fans wrote it off as typical rock star behavior—until Kurt AteHisGun a month later, providing them with a moment of FridgeHorror when they realized that the overdose was in all likelihood a suicide attempt.
* CarefulWithThatAxe and
GutturalGrowler: One of his vocal trademarks.
* DownerEnding: His tragic suicide at the age of 27.
* DreadfulMusician: In his early days.
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* GoodbyeCruelWorld: His famous suicide note (which quotes Music/NeilYoung's line "better to burn out than to fade away" from "Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)" on ''Music/RustNeverSleeps''.).
* {{Grunge}}: TropeCodifier
* GuiltComplex: Cobain suffered from intense guilt about all kinds of topics that others wouldn't feel so bothered about. He hated the macho culture and attacked this viciously in songs like "In Bloom". He despised violence against women, another topic found in many of his songs, including "Rape Me," "Polly," and "Been A Son." When Nirvana suddenly broke to the mainstream, Cobain felt bad about the fact that he was now the same kind of pop star he used to despise and deride, and as a result, he desperately tried to avoid being pigeonholed as a sell-out by keeping albums like ''Music/{{Incesticide}}'', ''Music/InUtero'' and ''Music/MTVUnpluggedInNewYork'' as anti-commercial as possible. Hell, one of his songs is even named "Oh, The Guilt."

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* GoodbyeCruelWorld: His famous suicide note (which quotes Music/NeilYoung's line "better to burn out than to fade away" from "Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)" on ''Music/RustNeverSleeps''.).
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%% * GuiltComplex: Cobain suffered from intense guilt about all kinds of topics that others wouldn't feel so bothered about. He hated the macho culture and attacked this viciously in songs like "In Bloom". He despised violence against women, another topic found in many of his songs, including "Rape Me," "Polly," and "Been A Son." When Nirvana suddenly broke to the mainstream, Cobain felt bad about the fact that he was now the same kind of pop star he used to despise and deride, and as a result, he desperately tried to avoid being pigeonholed as a sell-out by keeping albums like ''Music/{{Incesticide}}'', ''Music/InUtero'' and ''Music/MTVUnpluggedInNewYork'' as anti-commercial as possible. Hell, one of his songs is even named Song "Oh, The Guilt."



* NeverAcceptedInHisHometown: Kurt, being from the small town of Aberdeen, WA, had this sort of relationship with his town; Kurt didn't approve of the town, and the town generally didn't approve of him, and it was rare to find a moment when Kurt would have something good to say about the town (a sentiment shared by [[Music/{{Melvins}} Buzz Osborne]]). After his death, however, the town quickly changed its tune and even wound up paying tribute to Cobain on its city limit signs, which read "Welcome to Aberdeen. Come As You Are".
* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: As the liner notes for ''Music/{{Incesticide}}'' read:
-->''Last year, a girl was raped by two wastes of sperm and eggs while they sang the lyrics to our song "Polly". I have a hard time carrying on knowing there are plankton like that in our audience.''
* TheRedStapler: The grunge look of the early 90's wasn't planned out or thought of as anything special by those who "pioneered" the image, since the clothes that became associated with the look -- such as flannel jackets/shirts, secondhand jeans, and Converse shoes -- were just ordinary, run of the mill clothes people (especially people without a lot of money, like Kurt) would wear in a cold region like Seattle because they could be picked up for next to nothing at thrift stores or at community outreach drives. When Nirvana took off and unintentionally started the grunge "movement", stores across the United States wound up jacking up the prices of those aforementioned items to the point where it wasn't uncommon to find a $50 price tag attached to a flannel shirt up until 1995 or so, [[{{Irony}} effectively making them unaffordable to the very people who began wearing them to begin with]].
** Likewise, former pawn shop beater guitars and cheap stomp-box pedals quickly found themselves worth ten times their original value once people saw Kurt (or any other grunge musician) playing through them on TV or in magazines. Unlike the clothing example though, the value of some of these items didn't really drop back in the day once grunge saw its way "out", and considering that some of these guitars and pedals have vintage instrument status by this point, they probably won't get much cheaper in the future.
* RefugeInAudacity: Cobain often gave his songs themes, titles or lines that were clearly intended to shock and alienate certain people. He also used NightmareFuel laden imagery (with special attention given to drugs, disease, death, and human anatomy) that would repulse average listeners. Apart from that he sometimes performed in dress or flirted with homosexuality to piss off his macho homophobic fan-base.

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* NeverAcceptedInHisHometown: Kurt, being from the small town of Aberdeen, WA, had this sort of relationship with his town; Kurt didn't approve of the town, and the town generally didn't approve of him, and it was rare to find a moment when Kurt would have something good to say about the town (a sentiment shared by [[Music/{{Melvins}} Buzz Osborne]]). After his death, however, the town quickly changed its tune and even wound up paying tribute to Cobain on its city limit signs, which read "Welcome to Aberdeen. Come As You Are".
* RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil: As the liner notes for ''Music/{{Incesticide}}'' read:
-->''Last year, a girl was raped by two wastes of sperm and eggs while they sang the lyrics to our song "Polly". I have a hard time carrying on knowing there are plankton like that in our audience.''
* TheRedStapler: The grunge look of the early 90's wasn't planned out or thought of as anything special by those who "pioneered" the image, since the clothes that became associated with the look -- such as flannel jackets/shirts, secondhand jeans, and Converse shoes -- were just ordinary, run of the mill clothes people (especially people without a lot of money, like Kurt) would wear in a cold region like Seattle because they could be picked up for next to nothing at thrift stores or at community outreach drives. When Nirvana took off and unintentionally started the grunge "movement", stores across the United States wound up jacking up the prices of those aforementioned items to the point where it wasn't uncommon to find a $50 price tag attached to a flannel shirt up until 1995 or so, [[{{Irony}} effectively making them unaffordable to the very people who began wearing them to begin with]].
** Likewise, former pawn shop beater guitars and cheap stomp-box pedals quickly found themselves worth ten times their original value once people saw Kurt (or any other grunge musician) playing through them on TV or in magazines. Unlike the clothing example though, the value of some of these items didn't really drop back in the day once grunge saw its way "out", and considering that some of these guitars and pedals have vintage instrument status by this point, they probably won't get much cheaper in the future.
* RefugeInAudacity: Cobain often gave his songs themes, titles or lines that were clearly intended to shock and alienate certain people. He also used NightmareFuel nightmare laden imagery (with special attention given to drugs, disease, death, and human anatomy) that would repulse average listeners. Apart from that he sometimes performed in dress or flirted with homosexuality to piss off his macho homophobic fan-base.



* WouldntHitAGirl: Cobain was particularly disturbed by violence against women.
6th Nov '17 9:50:02 PM gjjones
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Sadly, he felt his overnight success was embarrassing. He always wanted to be famous, but within alternative rock, not in the mainstream where people could accuse him of "selling out". He tried to do everything to avoid such connotations, even going so far as to release an album meant to alienate the newer fanbase ([[SpringtimeForHitler which wound up having the opposite effect]]), but Cobain sank away further into [[AddledAddict drug addiction]] and depression until he finally [[AteHisGun offed]] [[DrivenToSuicide himself]]. Much of the fan-base [[YokoOhNo blames his widow]], Music/CourtneyLove, though Kurt had already alluded and flirted with suicide all throughout his life, so it actually was pretty much [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadowed]].

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Sadly, he felt his overnight success was embarrassing. He always wanted to be famous, but within alternative rock, not in the mainstream where people could accuse him of "selling out". He tried to do everything to avoid such connotations, even going so far as to release an album meant to alienate the newer fanbase ([[SpringtimeForHitler which wound up having the opposite effect]]), but Cobain sank away further into [[AddledAddict drug addiction]] and depression until he finally [[AteHisGun offed]] [[DrivenToSuicide himself]].himself]] on April 5, 1994. Much of the fan-base [[YokoOhNo blames his widow]], Music/CourtneyLove, though Kurt had already alluded and flirted with suicide all throughout his life, so it actually was pretty much [[{{Foreshadowing}} foreshadowed]].
12th Sep '17 10:05:07 PM gjjones
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A little public service announcement that we at Wiki/TVTropes would be very remiss not to make here: If you're feeling suicidal, ''please'' [[UsefulNotes/SuicidePrevention get help immediately.]] Talk to a loved one at the very least and let them know how you're feeling. [[YouAreNotAlone There]] ''[[YouAreNotAlone is]]'' [[YouAreNotAlone help out there]], no matter what you might believe.
11th Sep '17 8:53:49 PM gjjones
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* DownerEnding: His tragic suicide at the age of 27.
22nd Aug '17 6:12:02 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* AscendedFanboy: Helped his favourite obscure AlternativeRock and PunkRock bands (like Music/TheVaselines) reach a larger audience. He also wrote down a Top 50 of his favourite music albums in his personal diaries. According to Charles R. Cross' biography ''Heavier Than Heaven'' Cobain was listening to to ''Music/AutomaticForThePeople'' by Music/{{REM}} at the time of his death.

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* AscendedFanboy: Helped his favourite obscure AlternativeRock and PunkRock bands (like Music/TheVaselines) reach a larger audience. He also wrote down a Top 50 of his favourite music albums in his personal diaries. According to Charles R. Cross' biography ''Heavier Than Heaven'' Cobain was listening to to ''Music/AutomaticForThePeople'' by Music/{{REM}} at the time of his death. He also ''tried'' to be this with Music/{{Melvins}}, as he auditioned for them on several occasions (and wound up being an occasional tour hand) and later wound up attempting to produce ''Houdini'' until he and King Buzzo mutually agreed that it wasn't working out (which both parties were apparently rather crestfallen about). In spite of this, however, he was very good friends with King Buzzo up until his death and credited him with introducing him to heavier music.
22nd Aug '17 6:05:29 AM HasturHasturHastur
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+Music/ThePixies, Music/TheBreeders, Music/TheVaselines, Music/MeatPuppets, Music/DanielJohnston, Music/TheStooges, Music/{{Flipper}}, Music/TheRaincoats, Music/TheShaggs, Music/BlackFlag, Music/BadBrains, Music/SonicYouth, Music/TheSexPistols, Music/PJHarvey, Boredoms, Music/ShonenKnife, Music/{{Leadbelly}}, Music/PublicImageLtd, Music/TheBeatles, Music/DavidBowie, Music/{{Swans}}, Music/MazzyStar, Music/CelticFrost

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+Music/ThePixies, Music/TheBreeders, Music/TheVaselines, Music/MeatPuppets, Music/DanielJohnston, Music/TheStooges, Music/{{Flipper}}, Music/TheRaincoats, Music/TheShaggs, Music/BlackFlag, Music/BadBrains, Music/SonicYouth, Music/TheSexPistols, Music/PJHarvey, Boredoms, Music/ShonenKnife, Music/{{Leadbelly}}, Music/PublicImageLtd, Music/TheBeatles, Music/DavidBowie, Music/{{Swans}}, Music/MazzyStar, Music/CelticFrostMusic/CelticFrost, Music/{{Melvins}}, Music/ButtholeSurfers, Millions of Dead Cops
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