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** He may well have been a JerkassWoobie, if his mental illness and physical illness are anything to go by.
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** He may well have been a JerkassWoobie, if his mental illness and physical illness are anything to go by. The biopic on his life, ''Control'' seems to endorse this viewpoint.
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* PuttingOnTheReich: The cover for ''An Ideal for Living'' featured a Hitler Youth drummer.
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* LettingTheAirOutOfTheBand: At the end of "A Means to an End", and also used to chilling effect in "The Eternal".
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* LettingTheAirOutOfTheBand: At the end of "Candidate" and "A Means to an End", and End"; also used to chilling effect in "The Eternal".
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* LettingTheAirOutOfTheBand: At the end of "A Means to an End", and also used to chilling effect in "The Eternal". "A Means to an End" also peters out with a slowing-down effect.
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* LettingTheAirOutOfTheBand: At the end of "A Means to an End", and also used to chilling effect in "The Eternal". "A Means to an End" also peters out with a slowing-down effect.
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* LettingTheAirOutOfTheBand: At the end of "A Means to an End", and also used to chilling effect in "The Eternal". "A Means to an End" also peters out with a slowing-down effect.
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** It's possible that after the initial controversy the name "Joy Division" inspired, Sumner, Hook, and/or Morris were [[{{Troll}} trolling]] people by deliberately choosing a fascist-sounding name.
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* 1978 - ''Warsaw'' (their debut album which wasn't released at the time, eventually released in 1994, somewhat unofficially)
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* 1995 - ''Heart And Soul'' (box set containing nearly everything.)
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* {{Woobie}}: Ian Curtis, arguably. He had severe, ''severe'' depression, very, ''very'' bad epilepsy (with regular tonic-clonic seizures), and of course, this was at a time when nobody understood it enough to help him or for him to get any help. [[TheChewToy His life was]] [[{{Understatement}} not a very good one.]]
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** He may well have been a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, if his mental illness and physical illness are anything to go by.
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* {{Woobie}}: Ian Curtis, arguably. He had severe, ''severe'' depression, very, ''very'' bad epilepsy (with regular tonic-clonic seizures), and of course, this was at a time when nobody understood it enough to help him or for him to get any help. [[TheChewToy His life was]] [[{{Understatement}} not a very good one.]]
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** He may well have been an AssholeVictim or JerkWithAHeartOfGold, if his mental illness and physical illness are anything to go by.
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** He may well have been an [[AssholeVictim]] AssholeVictim or [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold]], JerkWithAHeartOfGold, if his mental illness and physical illness are anything to go by.
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* LastNoteNightmare: "Disorder"
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* LastNoteNightmare: "Disorder""Disorder", and to a lesser extent, "Isolation"
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* RunningGag: the band name "New Order" has a fascist subtext, also.
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* RunningGag: the band name "New Order" has a fascist subtext, also.also, though the band claims this was unintentional.
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* AllPartOfTheShow: Apparently, some of Curtis' onstage seizures were mistaken for his frenetic dancing style at first.
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: They only released two albums owing to the Author Artist Existence Failure of their lead singer (who died at 23), but are the first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the term PostPunk, in addition to helping lay the groundwork for what would become GothRock. If TheDoors did not influence them, usually Joy Division did.
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* LettingTheAirOutOfTheBand: At the end of "A Means to an End".
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** So that's why Jello Biafra said in the beginning of the track 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off' "Nazi Punks Fuck Off overproduced by Martin Hannett take 4".
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** So that's why Jello Biafra said in the beginning of the DeadKennedys track 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off' "Nazi Punks Fuck Off overproduced by Martin Hannett take 4".
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However, the relentless touring was having a negative effect on the band. Vocalist Ian Curtis was an epileptic who sometimes suffered seizures during concerts, leading to their cancellation. His lack of sleep and alcohol abuse only added to his severe depression, and he committed suicide on 18 May 1980 (Supposedly after watching {{Stroszek}} on the TV).
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However, the relentless touring was having a negative effect on the band. Vocalist Ian Curtis was an epileptic who sometimes suffered seizures during concerts, leading to their cancellation. His lack of sleep and alcohol abuse only added to his severe depression, and he committed suicide on 18 May 1980 (Supposedly (supposedly after watching {{Stroszek}} ''Film/{{Stroszek}}'' on the TV).
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Joy Division was formed after guitarist Bernard Sumner and bassist Peter Hook attended a Sex Pistols concert in Manchester on 4 June 1976, and were inspired to form a band. The additions of vocalist Ian Curtis and drummer Stephen Morris completed the lineup. Initially named Warsaw (under which name they recorded an unreleased album, later bootlegged), the band changed its name to Joy Division in late 1977, which got them in trouble at first because of its fascist overtones.
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Joy Division was formed after guitarist Bernard Sumner and bassist Peter Hook attended a Sex Pistols Music/SexPistols concert in Manchester on 4 June 1976, and were inspired to form a band. The additions of vocalist Ian Curtis and drummer Stephen Morris completed the lineup. Initially named Warsaw (under which name they recorded an unreleased album, later bootlegged), the band changed its name to Joy Division in late 1977, which got them in trouble at first because of its fascist overtones.
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* {{Jerkass}}: according to his widow Ian Curtis was a huge one. The rest of the band members tend to disagree.
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* {{Jerkass}}: according According to his widow Ian Curtis was a huge one. The rest of the band members tend to disagree. On the other hand, Ian ''did'' [[YourCheatingHeart cheat on her with a Belgian journalist...]]
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* NonIndicativeName: Their sound was pretty much the opposite of joyful. It makes more sense if you know that...
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: They only released two albums owing to the Author Existence Failure of their lead singer (who died at 23), but are the first thing everyone thinks of when they hear the term PostPunk, in addition to helping lay the groundwork for what would become GothRock. If TheDoors did not influence them, usually Joy Division did.
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-> ''Love will tear us apart.''
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-> ''Love will tear us apart.''
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* ScientificProgressGoesOi: Nice image of pulsar [=CP1919=] on the cover of ''Unknown Pleasures''.
** Bernard Sumner also built the band's first synthesizer.
** Bernard Sumner also built the band's first synthesizer.