History Music / InsaneClownPosse

22nd Mar '18 1:14:31 PM Xtifr
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* FakeFaithHealer: The televangelist from "Hellalujah" is a con artist of this type. He wheedles six thousand dollars from his loyal followers in order to "heal" a kid with a twisted neck, tangled legs, and a crooked spine, and when the healing doesn't actually do anything, he then tries to assuage his followers by saying that the boy's ''spirit'' has been healed.
22nd Mar '18 1:13:39 PM Xtifr
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* Creator/HowardStern: One of ICP's biggest supporters. He was initially skeptical of the duo during their first appearance on his radio show, but they impressed him enough that they were repeatedly brought back to the show, both due to the entertainment value, and because Stern highly respected their independence.
1st Mar '18 7:03:42 AM DrSlide
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ICP built a media and distribution empire all on their own. They were independent music before anyone else. They didn't want or need radio or {{Creator/MTV}} (back when either of those mattered) and they were an affront to the gatekeepers who owned every single aspect of the music industry. "The Great Milenko" was #8 on the charts and not a single video or song was played on MTV[=/=]Clear Chanel. ''The Amazing Jekyll Brothers'' was the 4th album on billboard top 100, with guest appearances by Music/SnoopDogg (back when he was relevant) and Ol' Dirty Bastard (RIP). This was at a time when everything in the Top 10 was Ricky Martin, Britney Spears, or boy bands. There was--and still is--a lot of resentment toward them since they basically invented a new way rap empires could be built. And they did it out of necessity because no one else would invest in the music.

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ICP built a media and distribution empire all on their own. They were independent music before anyone else. They didn't want or need radio or {{Creator/MTV}} (back when either of those mattered) and they were an affront to the gatekeepers who owned every single aspect of the music industry. "The ''The Great Milenko" Milenko'' was #8 on the charts and not a single video or song was played on MTV[=/=]Clear Chanel. Channel. ''The Amazing Jekyll Jeckel Brothers'' was debuted at #4 on the 4th album on billboard top Billboard Top 100, with guest appearances by Music/SnoopDogg (back when he was relevant) and Ol' Dirty Bastard (RIP). This was at a time when everything in the Top 10 was Ricky Martin, Britney Spears, or boy bands. There was--and still is--a lot of resentment toward them since they basically invented a new way rap empires could be built. And they did it out of necessity because no one else would invest in the music.
1st Sep '17 8:08:12 PM willemdafriendo
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ICP built a media and distribution empire all on their own. They were independent music before anyone else. They didn't want or need radio or {{Creator/MTV}} (back when either of those mattered) and they were an affront to the gatekeepers who owned every single aspect of the music industry. "The Great Milenko" was #8 on the charts and not a single video or song was played on MTV[=/=]Clear Chanel. ''The Amazing Jekyll Brothers'' was the 4th album on billboard top 100, with guest appearances by Music/SnoopDogg (back when he was relevant) and Ol' Dirty Bastard (RIP). This was at a time when everything in the Top 10 was Ricky Martin, Brittany Spears, or boy bands. There was--and still is--a lot of resentment toward them since they basically invented a new way rap empires could be built. And they did it out of necessity because no one else would invest in the music.

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ICP built a media and distribution empire all on their own. They were independent music before anyone else. They didn't want or need radio or {{Creator/MTV}} (back when either of those mattered) and they were an affront to the gatekeepers who owned every single aspect of the music industry. "The Great Milenko" was #8 on the charts and not a single video or song was played on MTV[=/=]Clear Chanel. ''The Amazing Jekyll Brothers'' was the 4th album on billboard top 100, with guest appearances by Music/SnoopDogg (back when he was relevant) and Ol' Dirty Bastard (RIP). This was at a time when everything in the Top 10 was Ricky Martin, Brittany Britney Spears, or boy bands. There was--and still is--a lot of resentment toward them since they basically invented a new way rap empires could be built. And they did it out of necessity because no one else would invest in the music.
1st Sep '17 8:05:19 PM willemdafriendo
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ICP built a media and distribution empire all on their own. They were independent music before anyone else. They didn't want or need radio or {{Creator/MTV}} (back when either of those mattered)and they were an affront to the gatekeeprrs who owned every single aspect of the music industry. "The Great Milenko" was #8 on the charts and not a single video or song was played on MTV[=/=]Clear Chanel. ''The Amazing Jekyll Brothers'' was the 4th album on billboard top 100, with guest appearances by Music/SnoopDogg (back when he was relevant) and Ol' Dirty Bastard (RIP). This was at a time when everything in the Top 10 was Ricky Martin, Brittany Spears, or boy bands. There was--and still is--a lot of resentment toward them since they basically invented a new way rap empires could be built. And they did it out of necessity because no one else would invest in the music.

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ICP built a media and distribution empire all on their own. They were independent music before anyone else. They didn't want or need radio or {{Creator/MTV}} (back when either of those mattered)and mattered) and they were an affront to the gatekeeprrs gatekeepers who owned every single aspect of the music industry. "The Great Milenko" was #8 on the charts and not a single video or song was played on MTV[=/=]Clear Chanel. ''The Amazing Jekyll Brothers'' was the 4th album on billboard top 100, with guest appearances by Music/SnoopDogg (back when he was relevant) and Ol' Dirty Bastard (RIP). This was at a time when everything in the Top 10 was Ricky Martin, Brittany Spears, or boy bands. There was--and still is--a lot of resentment toward them since they basically invented a new way rap empires could be built. And they did it out of necessity because no one else would invest in the music.
1st Sep '17 8:04:31 PM willemdafriendo
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Consisting primarily of two people, Violent J (Joseph Bruce) and Shaggy 2 Dope (Joseph Utsler), Insane Clown Posse are a HipHop group and ProfessionalWrestling tag team from UsefulNotes/{{Detroit}}, and the co-founders of the independent record label, Creator/PsychopathicRecords. Their music is generally placed in the "{{Horrorcore}}" category, and is focused heavily around CircusOfFear elements. They're also occasionally subject to FanDumb. Of course, some of their detractors [[FanHater aren't]] [[HateDumb much better,]] either. Fans that are not FanDumb prefer to be called {{Juggalo}}s, but since some of their FanDumb call themselves this as well, their HateDumb tends to lump all their fans together.

ICP originally formed as a GangstaRap group called "Inner City Posse," derived from the name of a Detroit gang formed by Bruce. The music group's increasing popularity resulted in the gang becoming the target of growing violence, leading its members to abandon gang life and adopt a Music/GetoBoys-esque horror rap style. The success of a former clown painted hype man and a dream Bruce had involving a clown running around in Delray,[[note]]the most depressed and blighted area of Detroit, at its southern tip; currently slated to be largely demolished to make way for a bridge to UsefulNotes/{{Canada}}[[/note]] led the group to adopt the name Insane Clown Posse.

After releasing an album, ''Carnival of Carnage,'' original member John Kickjazz quit the group, and ICP became a duo. The release of the EP ''Beverly Kills 50187'' and album ''Ringmaster'' gained ICP an increasing group of dedicated followers. The larger distribution of ''Riddle Box'' and ''The Great Milenko'' increased awareness of ICP, turning the group into one of the biggest underground rap acts in the country. During this time, a feud was started between ICP and fellow Detroit rapper Music/{{Eminem}}, which has since died down.

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Consisting primarily of two people, Violent J (Joseph Bruce) and Shaggy 2 Dope (Joseph Utsler), Insane Clown Posse are a HipHop group and ProfessionalWrestling tag team from UsefulNotes/{{Detroit}}, and the co-founders of the independent record label, Creator/PsychopathicRecords. Their music is generally placed in the "{{Horrorcore}}" category, and is focused heavily around CircusOfFear elements. They're They are also occasionally subject to FanDumb. Of course, some of extremely loyal and honest with their detractors [[FanHater aren't]] [[HateDumb much better,]] either. Fans that are not FanDumb fans, something to be admired. ICP fans prefer to be called {{Juggalo}}s, but since some of their FanDumb call themselves this as well, their HateDumb tends to lump all their fans together.

{{Juggalo}}s.

ICP originally formed originated as a GangstaRap group called "Inner City Posse," derived both from the name of a Detroit gang formed (formed by Bruce. Bruce) and a dream Bruce had involving a clown running around in Delray, the most depressed and blighted area of Detroit (currently slated to be largely demolished to make way for a bridge to UsefulNotes/{{Canada}}). The music group's increasing popularity resulted in the gang them becoming the target of growing violence, leading its members to abandon gang life and adopt a Music/GetoBoys-esque horror rap style. The success of style instead.

ICP built
a former clown painted hype man media and a dream Bruce had involving a clown running around in Delray,[[note]]the most depressed and blighted area of Detroit, at its southern tip; currently slated to be largely demolished to make way for a bridge to UsefulNotes/{{Canada}}[[/note]] led the group to adopt the name Insane Clown Posse.

After releasing an album, ''Carnival of Carnage,'' original member John Kickjazz quit the group, and ICP became a duo. The release of the EP ''Beverly Kills 50187'' and album ''Ringmaster'' gained ICP an increasing group of dedicated followers. The larger
distribution empire all on their own. They were independent music before anyone else. They didn't want or need radio or {{Creator/MTV}} (back when either of ''Riddle Box'' those mattered)and they were an affront to the gatekeeprrs who owned every single aspect of the music industry. "The Great Milenko" was #8 on the charts and not a single video or song was played on MTV[=/=]Clear Chanel. ''The Great Milenko'' increased awareness of ICP, turning the group into one of the biggest underground rap acts Amazing Jekyll Brothers'' was the 4th album on billboard top 100, with guest appearances by Music/SnoopDogg (back when he was relevant) and Ol' Dirty Bastard (RIP). This was at a time when everything in the country. During this time, a feud Top 10 was started between ICP and fellow Detroit rapper Music/{{Eminem}}, which has Ricky Martin, Brittany Spears, or boy bands. There was--and still is--a lot of resentment toward them since died down.
they basically invented a new way rap empires could be built. And they did it out of necessity because no one else would invest in the music.



* Producer Mike E. Clark is often called "the third member of ICP" by J and Shaggy, who credit him as being a major part of the band's sound, although they briefly had a falling out with Clark and have worked with other producers as a result.
** Before Mike E. Clark, they actually ''did'' have two different third members of the group. The first one, Shaggy's brother John Kickjazz, left before ''Carnival of Carnage'' was released due to him not really getting into the whole clown business and it feeling like it was taking too much of his life away (although he can still be heard in a few songs there). The second one, Greez-E, left after their first EP ''Beverly Kills 50187'' was released due to things not really working out, since he only did one song there.
* Not widely noted, but Rich Murrel (better known as Legz Diamond) is the unofficial "fourth member" of ICP. He does a lot of the guitar work and background vocals on their albums, and is unrecognizable in costume as part of ICP's live shows.

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* Producer Mike E. Clark is -- Producer, often called "the third member of ICP" by J and Shaggy, who credit him as being a major part of the band's sound, although they briefly had a falling out with Clark and have worked with other producers as a result.
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* John Kickjazz --
Before Mike E. Clark, they actually ''did'' have two different third members of the group. The first one, While recording an album, ''Carnival of Carnage,'' Shaggy's brother John Kickjazz, Kickjazz quit the group, and ICP became a duo. He left before ''Carnival of Carnage'' was released due to him not really getting into the whole clown business and it feeling like it was taking too much of his life away (although he can still be heard in a few songs there). The second one, Greez-E, songs).
* Greez-E -- He
left after their first EP ''Beverly (''Beverly Kills 50187'' was released 50187'') due to things not really working out, since he only did contributed to one song there.
song.
* Not widely noted, but Rich Murrel (better known as Legz Diamond) -- Not widely known, Murrel is the unofficial "fourth member" of ICP.member". He does a lot of the guitar work and background vocals on their albums, and is unrecognizable in costume as part of ICP's live shows.
24th Aug '17 2:15:29 PM limasbravo
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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: Violent J and Shaggy are well-known for portraying bloodthirsty MonsterClown characters, but in reality they're actually very nice to their fans and donate to and promote charities and fundraisers to help the poor(see their [[Awesome/InsaneClownPosse Awesome page]] for more details on that). They also love their moms very much and, [[MemeticMutation if certain videos are anything to go by]], absolutely adore their children. In fact, the pair came clean [[http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/jun/04/insane-clown-posse/ in a 2010]] interview that they're actually ''evangelical Christians''.[[note]] Fans had known that since the song "Thy Unveiling" on the ''The Wraith: Shangri-La'' album came out in 2002.[[/note]]

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* MeanCharacterNiceActor: Violent J and Shaggy are well-known for portraying bloodthirsty MonsterClown characters, but in reality they're actually very nice to their fans and donate to and promote charities and fundraisers to help the poor(see their [[Awesome/InsaneClownPosse Awesome page]] for more details on that). They also love their moms very much and, [[MemeticMutation if certain videos are anything to go by]], absolutely adore their children. In fact, the pair came clean At first people [[http://www.columbian.com/news/2010/jun/04/insane-clown-posse/ in a 2010]] interview said that they're actually they were]] ''evangelical Christians''.Christians'', but Violent J [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_Clown_Posse/ refuted this on Twitter]], saying they don't believe in any specific god.[[note]] Fans had known that since the song "Thy Unveiling" on the ''The Wraith: Shangri-La'' album came out in 2002.[[/note]]
10th Jun '17 11:09:25 AM nombretomado
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* NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly: [=ICP=] collaborated with [[Music/TheWhiteStripes Jack White]] on an "interpretation" of a [[Creator/WolfgangAmadeusMozart Mozart]] canon. The title of said canon? ''Leck mich im Arsch,'' i.e. "Lick Me in the Ass."

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* NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly: [=ICP=] collaborated with [[Music/TheWhiteStripes Jack White]] on an "interpretation" of a [[Creator/WolfgangAmadeusMozart [[Music/WolfgangAmadeusMozart Mozart]] canon. The title of said canon? ''Leck mich im Arsch,'' i.e. "Lick Me in the Ass."
20th Aug '16 12:04:33 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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->''"This stuff proves that just because rap came from black people don't mean it can't be every bit as white trash as you and me."

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->''"This stuff proves that just because rap came from black people don't mean it can't be every bit as white trash as you and me.""''
20th Aug '16 12:04:13 PM Da1tonTheGreat
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->'''George Lowe:''' Mr. 2 Dope, perhaps you'd care to read for the ladies and gentlemen of the jury the lyrics from your popular song '[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkmQsb1YOE0 Blacken Your Eyes]]'?\\
'''Shaggy 2 Dope:''' Ahem... "Filled your head with lead, because I want you dead. Girly girly bitch, you... [[{{Bowdlerise}} Freaky,]] freaky bitch."\\
'''George Lowe:''' [[ComicallyMissingThePoint What could be offensive about that?]]\\
'''Frylock:''' (''ahem'')\\
'''George Lowe:''' I mean, that's deplorable! Your songs drove my client's roommate to kill himself!\\
'''Violent J:''' Allow me to interject, please. We at Insane Clown Posse are very, very active in the community. We work with a number of local charities.\\
'''Shaggy 2 Dope:''' Yeah, like, we read to dead people.\\
(''flashback showing them rapping a book title "Sammy the Gerbil & His Muffin Adventure" to a dead patient in a hospital'')[[note]]Not the story itself, the pages are all ripped out of the book. They're rapping the title ITSELF.[[/note]]\\
'''Shaggy 2 Dope:''' We also spit fire.\\
(''they do so'')\\
'''George Lowe:''' No further questions.
-->--''WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce''

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->'''George Lowe:''' Mr. 2 Dope, perhaps you'd care to read for the ladies and gentlemen of the jury the lyrics from your popular song '[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkmQsb1YOE0 Blacken Your Eyes]]'?\\
'''Shaggy 2 Dope:''' Ahem... "Filled your head with lead,
->''"This stuff proves that just because I want rap came from black people don't mean it can't be every bit as white trash as you dead. Girly girly bitch, you... [[{{Bowdlerise}} Freaky,]] freaky bitch."\\
'''George Lowe:''' [[ComicallyMissingThePoint What could be offensive about that?]]\\
'''Frylock:''' (''ahem'')\\
'''George Lowe:''' I mean, that's deplorable! Your songs drove my client's roommate to kill himself!\\
'''Violent J:''' Allow me to interject, please. We at Insane Clown Posse are very, very active in the community. We work with a number of local charities.\\
'''Shaggy 2 Dope:''' Yeah, like, we read to dead people.\\
(''flashback showing them rapping a book title "Sammy the Gerbil & His Muffin Adventure" to a dead patient in a hospital'')[[note]]Not the story itself, the pages are all ripped out of the book. They're rapping the title ITSELF.[[/note]]\\
'''Shaggy 2 Dope:''' We also spit fire.\\
(''they do so'')\\
'''George Lowe:''' No further questions.
-->--''WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce''
and me."
-->-- Sheriff, ''WesternAnimation/{{Squidbillies}}''
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