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7th Jul '17 5:11:06 PM bt8257
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*** ''Generator'' featured experimentation (epically with songs like ''Two Babies in the Dark'')

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*** ''Generator'' featured experimentation (epically (especially with songs like ''Two "Two Babies in the Dark'')Dark")



*** ''New Maps of Hell'' is by far their heaviest albums, bordering on AlternativeMetal

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*** ''New Maps of Hell'' is by far their heaviest albums, album, bordering on AlternativeMetal



* RearrangeTheSong: ''Live at Palladium'' DVD has a version of "Cease" performed solely by Graffin on piano. It was based on the version that appeared on his solo album "American Lesion".

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* RearrangeTheSong: ''Live at Palladium'' DVD has a version of "Cease" performed solely by Graffin on piano. It was based on the version that appeared on his solo album "American Lesion".''American Lesion''.



*** Apparently, sometime after Mr. Brett left the band, he'd mock the band for being "the rotting corpse of thesaurus rock" (which was definitely classier than Greg Graffin changing a lyric in Mr. Brett's song "Stranger than Fiction" to make fun of Gurewitz's struggle with drug addiction whenever it was performed live).

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*** Apparently, sometime after Mr. Brett left the band, he'd mock the band for being "the rotting corpse of thesaurus rock" (which was definitely classier than Greg Graffin changing a lyric in Mr. Brett's song "Stranger than Than Fiction" to make fun of Gurewitz's his struggle with drug addiction whenever it was performed live).



--> And did that antropocentric God wane with their thoughts and beliefs all unseen?" (Bad Religion - God Song).

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--> And did that antropocentric anthropocentric God wane with their thoughts and beliefs all unseen?" (Bad Religion - God Song).



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Quite literally a case of DependingOnTheWriter. Graffin's lyrics tend to fall more on the cynical side, while Gurewitz's tend to be more on the idealistic side. There are, however, exceptions to this (from both writers).

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Quite literally a case of DependingOnTheWriter. Graffin's lyrics tend to fall more on the cynical side, while Gurewitz's tend to be more on the idealistic side. There are, however, However, there are exceptions to this (from this; and from both writers).writers, no less.



** Live backing vocals example - during much of their 90's era, Greg Hetson would perform backing vocals on the outro to "American Jesus" (the "one nation under god" bit), while Brian Baker played the lead riff.

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** Live backing vocals example - during much of their 90's '90s era, Greg Hetson would perform backing vocals on the outro to "American Jesus" (the "one nation under god" bit), while Brian Baker played the lead riff.



* SurfRock: Brett allegedly tried to write a surf / punk rock song with "Dharma and the Bomb". The biggest issue here proved to be Greg Graffin. As he is from Wisconsin, he was unable to convincingly imitate the desired californian accent. Eventually, Brett had to sing the song himself (althogh Greg still performed backing vocals).

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* SurfRock: Brett allegedly tried to write a surf / punk rock song with "Dharma and the Bomb". The biggest issue here proved to be Greg Graffin. As he is from Wisconsin, he was unable to convincingly imitate the desired californian Californian accent. Eventually, Brett had to sing the song himself (althogh Greg still performed backing vocals).



* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: Brett Gurewitz. Subverted in which not everyone uses "Mr. Brett" (which in itself is a subversion, in combining the trope with FirstNameBasis), and he himself doesn't seem to mind.

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* TheyCallMeMisterTibbs: Brett Gurewitz. Subverted in which not {{Subverted|Trope}} since everyone uses "Mr. Brett" (which in itself is a subversion, in by combining the trope with FirstNameBasis), and FirstNameBasis); he himself doesn't seem to mind.



* VocalEvolution: Greg's voice is still recognizable on ''How Could Hell Be Any Worse?'', but he does a lot more HardcorePunk-style shouting than singing. Oddly, ''[[CanonDiscontinuity Into The Unknown]]'' was the first album where he started taking a more melodic approach to his vocals.

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* VocalEvolution: Greg's voice is still recognizable on ''How Could Hell Be Any Worse?'', but he does a lot more HardcorePunk-style shouting than singing. Oddly, ''[[CanonDiscontinuity Into The the Unknown]]'' was the first album where he started taking a more melodic approach to his vocals.
7th Jul '17 2:33:30 PM bt8257
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Bad Religion is a very influential American punk rock band, founded in 1979 in Southern California. The original members were Jay Bentley (bass), Greg Graffin (vocals), Brett Gurewitz (guitars), and Jay Ziskrout, who was quickly replaced by Peter Finestone (drums). In the spirit of the Do-It-Yourself ethic held by the punk scene at the time, Gurewitz created Epitaph Records soon after their formation, and most of the band's albums have since been released through this label.

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Bad Religion is a very influential American punk rock band, founded in 1979 1980 in Southern California. The original members were Jay Bentley (bass), Greg Graffin (vocals), Brett Gurewitz (guitars), and Jay Ziskrout, who was quickly replaced by Peter Pete Finestone (drums). In the spirit of the Do-It-Yourself ethic held by the punk scene at the time, Gurewitz created Epitaph Records soon after their formation, and most of the band's albums have since been released through this label.



!!Band members (founding members in italic, current members in bold)
* '''''Greg Graffin''''' - vocals, principal songwriter (1979)
* '''''Brett Gurewitz''''' - guitar, backing vocals, principal songwriter (197983, 198794, 2001-present)
* '''''Jay Bentley''''' - bass, backing vocals (197983, 1987)
* ''Jay Ziskrout'' - drums (197980)
* Pete Finestone - drums (198183, 198591)
* Paul Dedona - bass (1983)
* Davy Goldman - drums (1983)
* Tim Gallegos - bass (1985)
* Greg Hetson - guitar (19852013)

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!!Band members (founding members in italic, current members in bold)
!!Current line-up:
* '''''Greg Graffin''''' Greg Graffin - vocals, principal songwriter (1979)
vocals (1980)
* '''''Brett Gurewitz''''' Brett Gurewitz - guitar, backing vocals, principal songwriter (197983, 198794, 2001-present)
vocals (198084, 198694, 2001)
* '''''Jay Bentley''''' Jay Bentley - bass, backing vocals (197983, 1987)
(198082, 1986)
* ''Jay Ziskrout'' Brian Baker - guitar, backing vocals (1994)
* Mike Dimkich - guitar (2013)
* Jamie Miller
- drums (197980)
(2015)

!!Former members:
* Jay Ziskrout - drums (1980)
* Pete Finestone - drums (198183, 198591)
(198182, 198491)
* Paul Dedona - bass (1983)
(198284)
* Davy Goldman - drums (1983)
(198284)
* Tim Gallegos - bass (1985)
(198485)
* Greg Hetson - guitar (19852013)(19842013)



* '''Brian Baker''' - guitar, backing vocals (1994)



* '''Mike Dimkich''' - guitar (2013)
* '''Jamie Miller''' - drums (2015)

!!Their discography:

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* '''Mike Dimkich''' - guitar (2013)
* '''Jamie Miller''' - drums (2015)

!!Their

!!Studio
discography:



!!The Empire Tropes First:
* [[AbsenteeActor AbsenteeMusician]]: Since his return in 2001, Gurewitz only ocassionaly performs live with the band (usually for gigs in California or television appearances). Justified, as he is also CEO of Epitaph Records (which since it was founded in 1980 has evolved into one of the largest independent record labels), so he is busy with releasing other bands.

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!!The !The Empire Tropes First:
* [[AbsenteeActor AbsenteeMusician]]: Since his return in 2001, Gurewitz only ocassionaly occasionally performs live with the band (usually for gigs in California or television appearances). Justified, {{Justified|Trope}}, as he is also CEO of Epitaph Records (which since it was founded in 1980 has evolved into one of the largest independent record labels), so he is busy with releasing other bands.



* AlbumTitleDrop: ''How Could Hell Be Any Worse?'' on "Fuck Armageddon... This is Hell" and ''The Process of Belief'' on "Materialist".

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* AlbumTitleDrop: ''How Could Hell Be Any Worse?'' on "Fuck Armageddon... This is Is Hell" and ''The Process of Belief'' on "Materialist".



** ''How Could Hell Be Any Worse?'' is Title Dropped in "Los Angeles is Burning", over two decades later.

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** ''How Could Hell Be Any Worse?'' is Title Dropped in "Los Angeles is Is Burning", over two decades later.



* CanonDiscontinuity: ''Into The Unknown'' -- after disappointing sales, it wasn't acknowledged or reissued until it was included in a compilation 27 years later.

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* CanonDiscontinuity: ''Into The the Unknown'' -- after disappointing sales, it wasn't acknowledged or reissued until it was included in a compilation 27 years later.
27th May '17 3:46:27 AM IanDere
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* EpicRocking: "Time and Disregard" from ''Into the Unknown'', lasting 7 minutes.
27th May '17 3:36:12 AM IanDere
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* RearrangeTheSong: ''Live at Palladium'' DVD has a version of "Cease" performed solely by Graffin on piano. It was based on the version that appeared on his solo album "American Leison".
* ReligionRantSong:

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* RearrangeTheSong: ''Live at Palladium'' DVD has a version of "Cease" performed solely by Graffin on piano. It was based on the version that appeared on his solo album "American Leison".
Lesion".
* ReligionRantSong: Frequent.


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* SpokenWordInMusic: "Voice of God Is Government" begins like this, while "The State of the End of the Millenium Address" is entirely spoken.
25th May '17 3:43:18 PM IanDere
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Since 2001, Bad Religion's lineup consisted of Graffin (vocals), Gurewitz (guitars), Bentley (bass), Greg Hetson--formerly of The Circle Jerks (guitars), Brian Baker (guitars), and Brooks Wackerman (drums). Bobby Schayer was their drummer for much of their 1990s period, but left the band after suffering a shoulder injury. In 2013 Hetson left due to personal problems (divorce) and was replaced by Mike Dimkich. In 2015, Wackerman also left.

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Since 2001, Bad Religion's lineup consisted of Graffin (vocals), Gurewitz (guitars), Bentley (bass), Greg Hetson--formerly of The Circle Jerks (guitars), Brian Baker (guitars), and Brooks Wackerman (drums). Bobby Schayer was their drummer for much of their 1990s period, but left the band after suffering a shoulder injury. In 2013 Hetson left due to personal problems (divorce) and was replaced by Mike Dimkich. In 2015, Wackerman also left.
left. He was replaced by Jamie Miller.




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* '''Jamie Miller''' - drums (2015)



* RearrangeTheSong: ''Live at Palladium'' DVD has a version of "Cease" performed solely by Graffin on piano. It was based on the version that appeared on his solo album "American Lesson".

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* RearrangeTheSong: ''Live at Palladium'' DVD has a version of "Cease" performed solely by Graffin on piano. It was based on the version that appeared on his solo album "American Lesson".Leison".


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** Live backing vocals example - during much of their 90's era, Greg Hetson would perform backing vocals on the outro to "American Jesus" (the "one nation under god" bit), while Brian Baker played the lead riff.


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* SurfRock: Brett allegedly tried to write a surf / punk rock song with "Dharma and the Bomb". The biggest issue here proved to be Greg Graffin. As he is from Wisconsin, he was unable to convincingly imitate the desired californian accent. Eventually, Brett had to sing the song himself (althogh Greg still performed backing vocals).
8th May '17 2:58:59 PM bt8257
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[[caption-width-right:325:Bad [[caption-width-right:285:Bad Religion, roughly 30 years ago.]]



The band is known for its particulary clever use of metaphor, style and vocabulary in the lyrics, as well as their peculiar vocal harmonies. Lyrics are often about philosophical, social or political concerns and tend to be critical, sarcastic, and often times harsh. Song writing is usually done between Graffin and Gurewitz, except for the period of time when the band left Epitaph for the major label Creator/AtlanticRecords (1993-2001). During this period, Graffin took on sole song writing duties (excluding their major label debut ''Stranger than Fiction'', which was the last album Guerwitz appeared on until 2002). For the album ''No Substance'', generally considered among the band's weakest entries, song writing responsibilities were shared among the other band members. Since Gurewitz's return, he and Graffin have resumed their original song writing duties.

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The band is known for its particulary particularly clever use of metaphor, style and vocabulary in the lyrics, as well as their peculiar vocal harmonies. Lyrics are often about philosophical, social or political concerns and tend to be critical, sarcastic, and often times harsh. Song writing is usually done between Graffin and Gurewitz, except for the period of time when the band left Epitaph for the major label Creator/AtlanticRecords (1993-2001). (1993-2001).

During this period, Graffin took on sole song writing duties (excluding their major label debut ''Stranger than Fiction'', which was the last album Guerwitz appeared on until 2002). For the album ''No Substance'', generally considered among the band's weakest entries, song writing responsibilities were shared among the other band members. Since Gurewitz's return, he and Graffin have resumed their original song writing duties.



* '''''Greg Graffin''''' - vocals, principal songwriter (1979-present)
* '''''Brett Gurewitz''''' - guitar, backing vocals, principal songwriter (1979-1983, 1987-1994, 2001-present)
* '''''Jay Bentley''''' - bass, backing vocals (1979-1983, 1987-present)
* ''Jay Ziskrout'' - drums (1979-1980)
* Pete Finestone - drums (1981-1983, 1985-1991)

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* '''''Greg Graffin''''' - vocals, principal songwriter (1979-present)
(1979)
* '''''Brett Gurewitz''''' - guitar, backing vocals, principal songwriter (1979-1983, 1987-1994, (197983, 198794, 2001-present)
* '''''Jay Bentley''''' - bass, backing vocals (1979-1983, 1987-present)
(197983, 1987)
* ''Jay Ziskrout'' - drums (1979-1980)
(197980)
* Pete Finestone - drums (1981-1983, 1985-1991)(198183, 198591)



* Greg Hetson - guitar (1985-2013)
* Bobby Schayer - drums (1991-2001)
* '''Brian Baker''' - guitar, backing vocals (1994-present)
* Brooks Wackerman - drums (2001-2015)
* '''Mike Dimkich''' - guitar (2013-present)

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* Greg Hetson - guitar (1985-2013)
(19852013)
* Bobby Schayer - drums (1991-2001)
(19912001)
* '''Brian Baker''' - guitar, backing vocals (1994-present)
(1994)
* Brooks Wackerman - drums (2001-2015)
(200115)
* '''Mike Dimkich''' - guitar (2013-present)
(2013)
7th May '17 3:14:27 PM bt8257
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Since 2001 Bad Religion's lineup consisted of Graffin (vocals), Gurewitz (guitars), Bentley (bass), Greg Hetson--formerly of The Circle Jerks (guitars), Brian Baker (guitars), and Brooks Wackerman (drums). Bobby Schayer was their drummer for much of their 1990s period, but left the band after suffering a shoulder injury. In 2013 Hetson left due to personal problems (divorce) and was replaced by Mike Dimkich. In 2015, Wackerman also left.

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Since 2001 2001, Bad Religion's lineup consisted of Graffin (vocals), Gurewitz (guitars), Bentley (bass), Greg Hetson--formerly of The Circle Jerks (guitars), Brian Baker (guitars), and Brooks Wackerman (drums). Bobby Schayer was their drummer for much of their 1990s period, but left the band after suffering a shoulder injury. In 2013 Hetson left due to personal problems (divorce) and was replaced by Mike Dimkich. In 2015, Wackerman also left.
26th Jan '17 3:01:13 PM BalrogKick
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* BrokenPedestal: Todd Rundgren, one of Greg Graffins influences growing up, produced ''The New America''. Todd was apparently very difficult to work with which disappointed Greg heavily. However they did reconcile years later.
21st Dec '16 4:53:50 PM darkchiefy
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The band is known for its particulary clever use of metaphor, style and vocabulary in the lyrics, as well as their peculiar vocal harmonies. Lyrics are often about philosophical, social or political concerns and tend to be critical, sarcastic, and often times harsh. Song writing is usually done between Graffin and Gurewitz, except for the period of time when the band left Epitaph for the major label Atlantic Records (1993-2001). During this period, Graffin took on sole song writing duties (excluding their major label debut ''Stranger than Fiction'', which was the last album Guerwitz appeared on until 2002). For the album ''No Substance'', generally considered among the band's weakest entries, song writing responsibilities were shared among the other band members. Since Gurewitz's return, he and Graffin have resumed their original song writing duties.

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The band is known for its particulary clever use of metaphor, style and vocabulary in the lyrics, as well as their peculiar vocal harmonies. Lyrics are often about philosophical, social or political concerns and tend to be critical, sarcastic, and often times harsh. Song writing is usually done between Graffin and Gurewitz, except for the period of time when the band left Epitaph for the major label Atlantic Records Creator/AtlanticRecords (1993-2001). During this period, Graffin took on sole song writing duties (excluding their major label debut ''Stranger than Fiction'', which was the last album Guerwitz appeared on until 2002). For the album ''No Substance'', generally considered among the band's weakest entries, song writing responsibilities were shared among the other band members. Since Gurewitz's return, he and Graffin have resumed their original song writing duties.
23rd Nov '16 12:42:40 PM NWolfman
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Bad Religion is a very influential punk rock band from the United States of America, founded in 1979 in Southern California. The original members were Jay Bentley (bass), Greg Graffin (vocals), Brett Gurewitz (guitars), and Jay Ziskrout, who was quickly replaced by Peter Finestone (drums). In the spirit of the Do-It-Yourself ethic held by the punk scene at the time, Gurewitz created Epitaph Records soon after their formation, and most of the band's albums have since been released through this label.

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Bad Religion is a very influential American punk rock band from the United States of America, band, founded in 1979 in Southern California. The original members were Jay Bentley (bass), Greg Graffin (vocals), Brett Gurewitz (guitars), and Jay Ziskrout, who was quickly replaced by Peter Finestone (drums). In the spirit of the Do-It-Yourself ethic held by the punk scene at the time, Gurewitz created Epitaph Records soon after their formation, and most of the band's albums have since been released through this label.
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