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18th Sep '17 12:59:04 AM Doug86
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* ''StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': Emperor Valkorion and his BigScrewedUpFamily are this in a nutshell.

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* ''StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'': Emperor Valkorion and his BigScrewedUpFamily are this in a nutshell.
7th Sep '17 3:26:09 AM MysteriousZorua1994
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*** Scar crosses the line when he gleefully tries to eat Sora shortly after the later arrives in his world. What makes this particularly vile is Sora is in the form of a Lion Cub, so Scar essentially wants to cannibalize ''a child''. It's also worth mentioning that he's the only character in the series so far other the Xehanort that's been able to keep his original form as a Heartless.

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*** Scar crosses the line when he gleefully tries to eat Sora shortly after the later arrives in his world. What makes this particularly vile is Sora is in the form of a Lion Cub, so Scar essentially wants to cannibalize ''a child''. It's also worth mentioning that he's the only character in the series so far other the than Xehanort that's been able to keep his original form as a Heartless.



*** It can be said that WesternAnimation/{{Pete}} crosses the line at one of these two points, too, as he helped Barbossa and Scar capture Sora. If not, then [[spoiler:he did when he tortures Data-Riku in ''codded'']].

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*** It can be said that WesternAnimation/{{Pete}} crosses the line at one of these two points, too, as he helped Barbossa and Scar capture Sora. If not, then [[spoiler:he did when he tortures Data-Riku in ''codded'']].''coded'']].



*** However, all of this amounts nothing to the actions committed by [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Maleficent]] throughout the entire franchise. She's single-handedly responsible for hundreds, if not ''thousands'' of worlds being destroyed with billions killed. She's kidnapped girls who's hearts are pure light and forced them into deep sleep until all seven of them are brought together for universal domination ([[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt or worse, the end of reality itself]]). She has tried to turn Santa Claus into a Heartless! And she's even tricked Terra into [[spoiler:stealing Princess Aurora's heart]], and is in direct league with Xehanort.

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*** However, all of this amounts nothing to the actions committed by [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Maleficent]] throughout the entire franchise. She's single-handedly responsible for hundreds, if not ''thousands'' of worlds being destroyed with destroyed, and the deaths of billions killed.of innocent people; a record unmatched in Disney history [[Film/TheForceAwakens until the Starkiller Base]]. She's kidnapped girls who's hearts are pure light and forced them into deep sleep until all seven of them are brought together for universal domination ([[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt or worse, the end of reality itself]]). She has tried to turn Santa Claus into a Heartless! And she's even tricked Terra into [[spoiler:stealing Princess Aurora's heart]], and is in direct league with Xehanort.



** As they are AlwaysChaoticEvil, all Cragmites are beyond this line upon birth. However, Emperor Tachyon, the BigBad of ''Tools of Destruction'', crosses this line [[spoiler:by waging genocide against the lombaxes out of anger for them banishing his own race. Oh, and some of the lombaxes ''raised him'']]. Tachyon's subsequent iron-fisted rule over Polaris and countless offscreen genocides[[note]]his first scene states that he will be ruler of the universe pending the extinction of several species[[/note]]have indicated that he ''enjoys'' crossing the MEH, and seems to commit various crimes that are MEH crossings frequently.

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** As they are AlwaysChaoticEvil, all Cragmites are beyond this line upon birth. However, Emperor Tachyon, the BigBad of ''Tools of Destruction'', crosses this line [[spoiler:by waging genocide against the lombaxes out of anger for them banishing his own race. Oh, and some of the lombaxes ''raised him'']]. Tachyon's subsequent iron-fisted rule over Polaris and countless offscreen genocides[[note]]his first scene states that he will be ruler of the universe pending the extinction of several species[[/note]]have species[[/note]] have indicated that he ''enjoys'' crossing the MEH, and seems to commit various crimes that are MEH crossings frequently.
31st Aug '17 8:06:55 PM VisitorAlex
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* ''MoralEventHorizon/GrandTheftAuto''



* The ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' series, being obviously a crime-centered game and considering the great cynicism in its sequels, plays quite a lot with this trope.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'': Catalina crosses this when she kills her boyfriends, purely interested in the thrill of violence and crime, not for love.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity'':
** [[MisterBig Ricardo Diaz]] crosses this in the mission "Death Row", admitting to Lance Vance that it was he who killed Lance's brother and then sending Lance off to be tortured to death.
*** [[TheDon Sonny Forelli]] crossed this before the game's events. In the final mission, it is revealed that he set up the entire incident which landed Tommy in jail, with no explanation for why he did that being given, and after the entire drug deal went into a mess in the beginning, it is implied that Sonny set the deal to go to hell and wanted to have Tommy killed. This shows that he has no problem betraying his close friend and one of his most powerful men in his organization for no reason and shows no remorse for this. And it is likely that Sonny would have killed Tommy if he had given the money he made from his empire's operations.
*** Lance Vance seems to really cross this when he allied with Sonny and tries to kill Tommy. He doesn't even show remorse when he tries to kill Tommy, and you see that he does it with glee. For what it's worth, he was delusional enough to think that he was pulling the weight when he and Tommy were working together.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'': Tenpenny, Pulaski, and the Ballas in the video "The Introduction", killing CJ's mother so that he came to Los Santos and give him an easy scapegoat for Pendlebury's murder. And the worst is that they murdered him.
*** Tenpenny probably also crossed this in many missions, forcing CJ to kill people who want to discover their corruption, including FBI agents.
*** OG Loc absolutely crosses it when he ordered CJ to kidnap and kill the manager of Mad Dog, and as if that were not enough, also ordered him to kill all his guards and steal the rhyme book of Mad Dog to be made famous. It is incredible that an apparently comedic character and even ridiculed by their partners has become so vile, especially since later on Mad Dog is DrivenToSuicide
*** Catalina, shooting civilians randomly in a betting house simply because she enjoys it. Even CJ himself was disgusted by Catalina.
*** Salvatore Leone has probably crossed it when he threatens CJ to kill him and his entire family, although not proven if he really did in later years.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoLibertyCityStories'': Paulie Sindacco intersects the horizon with the attempted murder of Salvatore, sending his henchmen to take him to the crusher.
*** Toni's mother has probably crossed the line with the attempted murder of her own son for "not being a man".
*** Donald Love crosses it when he has Toni kill his former mentor.
*** Vincenzo Cilli, when he lures Toni into a death trap with chainsaw-wielding mob thugs.
*** [[BigBad Massimo]] [[TheChessmaster Torini]] crosses it by starting gang wars to prepare Liberty City for the Sicilian mafia invasion.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCityStories'': Marty Jay Williams crosses the line when he kidnaps his own wife Louise and tries to turn her into a prostitute.
*** Jerry Martinez crosses this when he kidnaps, rapes, and intentionally injures Louise.
*** Armando Mendez absolutely crosses this when he kidnaps and tortures (and allegedly rapes) Louise. She dies as a result.
*** Vic himself crosses the line when Louise convinces him to take over Marty's gang. Before then, he was either just trying to make a living or being threatened into it.
** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'':
*** If Trevor didn't cross it by [[spoiler:viciously killing Johnny, and then wiping out ALL of the Lost's former Alderney chapter]], he has several other good contenders, most notably the deplorable ways he abuses Floyd.
*** Devin crosses it when he sends [[spoiler:Merryweather after Michael's family for accidentally causing his secretary's death.]]
*** Steve Haines crosses it with the infamous, long, drawn-out torture of [[spoiler:Mr. K]]. There are a number of factors which contribute to make this scene a particularly brutal crossing. [[spoiler:For one, it's obvious that Mr. K is innocent of completely any wrong-doing whatsoever, he just happened to briefly work for someone who the [=FIB=] was suspicious of. The other factor is that, even though Mr. K knows next to nothing useful, he's still one hundred percent willing to share everything he does know with Haines. It's just that Haines has Trevor torture Mr. K before interrogating him, avoids asking Mr. K direct questions, and when he does ask direct questions he rarely gives Mr. K enough time to respond before opting to have Trevor torture him more. Because of his sadism and impatience, Mr. K gets knee-capped, electrocuted, has a tooth ripped out with pliers, and is water boarded with gasoline]]. He then caps it all off by [[spoiler:ordering Trevor to kill Mr. K]] before skipping off merrily to go play racquetball. [[spoiler: Fortunately, Trevor goes behind his back by waiting for him to leave, releasing Mr. K, and driving him to the airport instead.]]
*** The Minute Men cross this when [[spoiler:they draw real guns on an innocent family of legal immigrants and get ready to execute them. Or at least, they would have if Trevor hadn't come along and [[VillainousRescue killed the two of them]].]]
31st Aug '17 6:31:23 PM VisitorAlex
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-->-- ''''Niko Bellic''', '''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'''

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-->-- ''''Niko '''Niko Bellic''', '''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'''
31st Aug '17 6:31:01 PM VisitorAlex
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->''"After you walk into a village and you see 50 children, [[WouldHurtAChild all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off]], you realize that the creature that could do this doesn't have a soul."''

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->''"After you walk into a village and you see 50 children, [[WouldHurtAChild all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off]], off, you realize that the creature that could do this doesn't have a soul."''
31st Aug '17 6:29:44 PM VisitorAlex
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->''"After you walk into a village and you see 50 [[WouldHurtAChild children]], all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off, you realize that the creature that could do this doesn't have a soul."''

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->''"After you walk into a village and you see 50 children, [[WouldHurtAChild children]], all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off, off]], you realize that the creature that could do this doesn't have a soul."''
31st Aug '17 6:28:50 PM VisitorAlex
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->''"Just when you thought you had reached the deepest depths of horror, it suddenly got worse. How to turn off that small voice inside your head that started to whisper that you should be glad -- that now, if not before, your revenge was justifiable on any conceivable moral scale? That small voice proved, beyond any doubt, that I was damned."''
-->-- '''VideoGame/MaxPayne'''

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->''"Just when ->''"After you thought walk into a village and you had reached the deepest depths of horror, it suddenly got worse. How to turn off see 50 [[WouldHurtAChild children]], all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off, you realize that small voice inside your head the creature that started to whisper that you should be glad -- that now, if not before, your revenge was justifiable on any conceivable moral scale? That small voice proved, beyond any doubt, that I was damned.could do this doesn't have a soul."''
-->-- '''VideoGame/MaxPayne'''
''''Niko Bellic''', '''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'''
31st Aug '17 6:09:05 PM VisitorAlex
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!!Video Games with their own pages
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* ''MoralEventHorizon/FireEmblem''
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* The ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' franchise is so big that each continuity will have its own entry here:
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem'':
*** Gharnef, who starts by [[spoiler:murdering Linde's dad, Miloah, due to jealousy for not inheriting [[LightTheWay Aura]]]], and later not only manipulating [[spoiler:Emperor Hardin and getting him BrainwashedAndCrazy]], but [[spoiler:kidnapping and brainwashing Elice, Nyna, Maria, and Lena so they'll be {{Human Sacrifice}}s for Medeus.]] And the newest games add another one: [[spoiler:brainwashing Eremiya [[DespairEventHorizon when she was right in the lowest point of her life]], then having her raise {{Tykebomb}}s for him... and once she loses the fight against Marth's group, he debrainwashes her ''only to mock her and have her die in despair''. Eremiya was a total bitch, but not even she deserved that! Especially since '''Gharnef made her that way!!!''']]
*** Lang is revealed as early as the first chapter to commit a wide variety of atrocities, including robbing from civillians, taking away young girls (undoubtedly for a gruesome fate), planning to slaughter the families of those who rebelled against him, and kill the young heirs of Grust.
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar''
*** Despite being a WellIntentionedExtremist, Arvis crosses this in Chapter 5, wherein he throws a party for Sigurd, who has all but cleared his name. That's not the MEH; what ''happens'' at the party is. [[spoiler:He basically brings out his new wife, Deirdre, ''who was Sigurd's wife before she was brainwashed'', to mock Sigurd, laughs at him for his naivety, and then has a group of mages drop [[DeathFromAbove meteors]] on ''the entire party'' -- which, by the way, includes his younger brother.]] [[MemeticMutation "Arvis, you dastard!"]] sums it up pretty well.
*** Like Arvis, [[DragonRider King Travant]] is a WellIntentionedExtremist who just wants what's best for his country, but it's hard to like him after he [[spoiler:tracks down and kills Quan, Ethlin, and half the Lenster knights, then kidnaps baby Altenna so he can have the Gae Bolg]].
*** [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Hilda]], resident LadyOfBlackMagic, looks like she crossed this in the story [[spoiler:by hunting down and killing children]]... but then you learn that she actually crossed it long before the second generation started. Her husband, Blume, had captured his sister Tiltyu and her daughter Tinny (who couldn't have been more than four or five at the time) and brought them back to Freege. So what does Hilda do to them? [[spoiler:Spends several years ''torturing Tiltyu to death while making Tinny watch''. And once she was done with her sister-in-law, she began to abuse said girl ''further'']]. Upon learning this, Hilda goes from being just an unpleasant boss to someone you REALLY want to kill. The fact that it's possible to get Tiltyu to die before this can happen doesn't diminish this, because [[spoiler:Hilda simply turns towards her ''other'' sister Ethnia and make her her new punching bag and having her daughter Linda (Tinny's replacement) watch as well, then turned to torture Linda as well.]] Either way, you get the idea.
*** [[ManipulativeBastard Manfroy]] has one, but it's a little hard to tell what it is since just about everything he does is evil. It can be pinned down to one of three acts, though: either [[spoiler:kidnapping and brainwashing Deirdre, then emotionally manipulating her half-brother Arvis [[BrotherSisterIncest into marrying her]] so they can make TheAntiChrist]]; [[spoiler:giving said [[TheAntiChrist anti-Christ]] an evil tome that possessed him and turned him into an EvilOverlord when it turned out he was [[AntiAntiChrist actually a pretty nice kid]]]]; or [[spoiler:murdering his pregnant daughter's husband and driving her insane because [[ParentalMarriageVeto she didn't marry the person he wanted her to marry]]]].
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'':
*** [[BloodKnight Valter]] crosses the line in a big way when he brutally murders his honourable foil Glen for expressing doubts about their emperor's orders. And that's not getting into the implication that he wants to [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape]] Eirika.
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'':
*** Ephidel having [[spoiler:cute-as-a-button Leila]] butchered, and watching it with that perpetually-irritating smug grin on his face. Interestingly enough, he just gave the order; the character who actually ''did'' the butchering, [[spoiler:a TykeBomb raised from infancy into a brutal killer]], pulls a HeelFaceTurn and ends up as one of the most sympathetic in the game!
*** Sonia [[spoiler:making the revelation that she killed Nino's real parents, that she never had any care or love whatsoever toward Nino, and then attempting to kill Nino herself. When the aforementioned "butcher" witnesses such stuff, this is the push he needs for his HeelFaceTurn.]]
*** It's followed by [[spoiler:Nergal giving a kidnapped Ninian a brutal HannibalLecture in which he browbeats and verbally abuses her into reverting to her Dragon form, setting her loose so she would be slain by Eliwood without him knowing it (and under the control of the Durandal sword, made for killing dragons), and then not only revealing it to Eliwood as Ninian dies in his arms (throwing Eliwood into a state of utter despair), but '''laughing about it'''. Did we mention that it's all but stated that ''Ninian is his long-lost daughter''? Not even the fact that [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget he lost his memories]] is good enough to get him off the hook for that, considering his glee when he tells Eliwood that he's fatally injured the girl who loved him.]]
*** And then we have [[spoiler:King Desmond of Bern]], who orders the Black Fang to carry out [[spoiler:the murder of his own son and heir, Zephiel, due to hating how the child of his much hated wife [[HotConsort Hellene]] is the one able to inherit the throne [[ParentalFavoritism instead of his favorite child]] [[HeirClubForMen Guinevere]].]] Is there any wonder that [[spoiler:Zephiel and Guinevere's relationship, until then friendly and cute, [[CainAndAbel would be broken beyond belief]] after [[UsedToBeASweetKid the embittered Zephiel grows into a]] faithless SocialDarwinist]]?
*** Speaking of Zephiel, pretty much everything he does to Lycia counts, but murdering Hector and taking Lilina hostage is probably the worst.
** How about a nod to the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance Tellius]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn baddies]]?
*** Mad King Ashnard, BigBad of the first game, pumped Rajaion, prince of the dragon [[OurWerebeastsAreDifferent laguz]], full of a PsychoSerum that both drove him insane and [[ShapeshifterModeLock mode-locked]] him into his dragon form, then used him as a mount -- all after using his sister's child, which Ashnard fathered, as bait to lure him in (he then abandoned their son).
*** Izuka, Ashnard's [[MadScientist chief scientist]], is the one who developed the aforementioned PsychoSerum. In the second game, he actually ''joins your party'' as your ([[GeneralFailure laughably incompetent]]) strategist, during which time he uses his drug on ''Muarim'', though he is thankfully cured. After that, you want him dead, and it's no shock when he's revealed to be working for...
*** Lekain, easily the most horrible person in both games. To say nothing of the fact that he hands out [[spoiler:Blood Pacts]] like candy, this lovely fellow [[spoiler:bumped off his country's beloved empress, framed a race of {{Actual Pacifist}}s for the crime, then whipped his countrymen into a genocidal frenzy, in the aftermath of which only four of said race were left]]. TheReveal that he was one who gave the order for the genocide immediately puts him in a separate class from the rest of the series' villains, and every named character clamours for his head on a pike.
*** General Jarod, DiscOneFinalBoss of the first part of the second game, treats a conquered country like his personal playground, casually committing atrocities everywhere he goes for his own enjoyment. The [=MEH=] probably comes when he has his men shoot a preteen boy in the back. Micaiah heals him, but ''still''.
*** Duke Valtome may be [[LaughablyEvil hilarious]], but that still doesn't change the fact that he sent his own men to almost certain death in a volcanic cavern just to ''check if the heroes were dead'', nor the fact that he sics his goons on Elincia after she willingly disarms herself as a gesture of peace to him.
*** Duke Hetzel considers ''himself'' to have crossed this line for not standing up to the likes of Lekain and Valtome, but he is, if not sympathetic, certainly pitiable.
*** Finally, we have [[spoiler:the goddess Ashera]], who is considered to have crossed it {{in-universe}} after she [[spoiler:resurrects a legion of zombies to fight the heroes. Even ''Yune'', a goddess herself, was brought to tears upon witnessing this]].
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' is no slouch in regards to this...
*** [[TheCaligula King Gangrel]] has his moment when he not only [[spoiler:captures Emmeryn]], but he forces her and [[spoiler:Chrom]] into a SadisticChoice that finishes [[spoiler:with Emmeryn's HeroicSuicide]]... and then ''laughs about it''. It's '''NO''' wonder that [[spoiler:Chrom]] is absolutely enraged afterwards [[spoiler:and that, after his BreakTheHaughty -> HeelFaceTurn, Gangrel is [[TheAtoner NOT pleased with himself]].]]
*** [[SmugSnake Excellus]] crosses it via [[spoiler:giving a cruel BreakingLecture to [[BadassPrincess Say'ri]], which includes telling her that her apparently traitorous brother, Yen'fay, was actually trying to protect her.]] Again, no wonder that [[spoiler:Say'ri goes all BewareTheQuietOnes on him.]]
*** [[spoiler:Validar]] has many MEH crossings under his belt. Having his [[spoiler:own blood son/daughter, [[PlayerCharacter the Avatar]], '''[[SuperBreedingProgram bred and raised]] as the prospect vessel of [[EvilGod Grima]]''']] is pretty despicable, but might be EvilCannotComprehendGood as he himself was also raised this way. Thus, the worst one is [[spoiler:murdering Aversa's whole family and brainwashing her into being his servant ''when she was a little girl'']], as revealed in spotpass content.
** And then, there's ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''...
*** Hans and his troops [[spoiler: massacre not only the remaining Hoshidan and Cheve knight casualties (including killing Scarlet in an especially brutal way) that were left behind by the Avatar, but also Cheve civilians]] in ''Conquest'' Chapter 13.
*** Garon has ''many'' moments, but the worst include: [[spoiler: giving orders to break through Xander and the Avatar's intentions to spare many Hoshidan prisoners of war after Sakura and Yukimura's defeats]] ''and'' [[spoiler: trying to force the Avatar into murdering Ryoma after he's defeated (which Ryoma can only counter ''via a HeroicSuicide'')]] (''Conquest'') and [[spoiler: intending to fully destroy ''both'' Hoshido and Nohr]] (Chapter 17 ''Revelation''). It's then revealed [[spoiler:that the Garon we know is nothing but a corpse that is kept alive and brainwashed by the next guy on this list, so Garon himself subverts the trope]].
*** The GreaterScopeVillain [[spoiler: Anankos]] also has several moments qualifying as this, and the biggest ones are: [[spoiler: corrupting the aforementioned Garon from a troubled King to a bloodthirsty tyrant that caused at least two wars for him]] and [[spoiler: reviving the murdered Sumeragi and set him up to kill the Avatar (which resulted in Sumeragi killing ''his own widow'' Mikoto when she realised this and went TakingTheBullet for the Avatar)]] (all paths); [[spoiler: [[MoreThanMindControl corrupting the very troubled Prince Takumi]] into becoming the FinalBoss of the game]] (''Conquest''), [[spoiler: forcibly reviving the aforementioned Mikoto and her sister Arete as his BrainwashedAndCrazy slaves alongside Sumeragi]] (''Revelation''); [[spoiler: manipulating [[WellDoneSonGuy his daughter Lilith]] for years and siccing her on the heroes]] (''Hidden Truths'' DLC) and [[spoiler: destroying ''several'' worlds, then setting up the few survivors from the game's Second Generation into a sort of DeadlyGame]] (''Heirs of Fate'' DLC).



%% The older brother from 4 is NOT an example of crossing this, as it was an accident.
23rd Aug '17 10:19:11 AM normanale834
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** [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Sylvanas Windrunner]] has [[CrossesTheLineTwice crossed the line so many times that she plays double-dutch with it]], and despite some ''Warcraft'' fans remaining loyal to her and claiming she hasn't done anything wrong because [[WellIntentionedExtremist "it's for the good of her 'people'"]], many more have found her to be irredeemably evil. She has committed so many atrocities that it would actually be much easier to list what she hasn't done. She has: killed civilians, killed children, experimented on people with biological weapons, used biological weapons on civilian towns, committed genocide, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking disobeyed direct orders]], [[YouWillBeAssimilated reanimated the men that she has killed into more Forsaken]], [[FightingYourFriend compelled these men to fight against and kill their own former allies]], kidnapped, taken hostages, invaded foreign countries, framed a Forsaken man who may or may not have committed a crime and then tested biological weapons against him, mind-controlled a Death Knight (essentially a volunteer Horde warrior), used propaganda, set herself up as the object of cult worship, and possibly achieved this through mind-control of her entire faction. If Sylvanas sees a line to be crossed, she gleefully cartwheels over it.
19th Aug '17 1:49:36 AM superkeijikun
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* ''VideoGame/InfamousSecondSon'' also gives players a karmic choice late in the game: [[spoiler:spare Hank, the conduit who tried to sell you and your brother out so he could be reunited with his daughter, or kill him mere moments before he can reach her.]] And if that doesn't cross the line, the Evil ending will [[spoiler:when his misdeeds get him expelled from the Akomish tribe, leading him to launch an Orbital Drop that will wipe them all out in retribution]].

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* ''VideoGame/InfamousSecondSon'' also gives players a karmic choice late in the game: [[spoiler:spare Hank, the conduit who tried to sell you and your brother out so he could be reunited with his daughter, or kill him mere moments before he can reach her.]] And if that doesn't cross the line, the Evil ending will [[spoiler:when his Delsin's misdeeds get him expelled from the Akomish tribe, leading him to launch an Orbital Drop that will wipe them all out in retribution]].
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