History MoralEventHorizon / VideoGames

20th Aug '16 11:38:42 AM L4D2_Francis
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* In the life-simulator VideoGame/AlterEgo, there is one scenario where you are faced with a rude store manager who is too busy engaging in idle chit-chat to serve you. If you choose to react violently to being ignored, you are set upon and badly beaten by security guards and banned from the store. After this, you have the option of going all-out and committing an arson attack, burning the store to the ground, resulting in you becoming a social outcast with a criminal record, in addition to six months in jail.
13th Aug '16 11:57:05 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** The Covenant are an interesting case; as a whole, they murdered BILLIONS of humans on the word of their Prophets. However, it becomes clear that most of them are misguided, {{Punch Clock Villain}}s, or outright slaves, and a big theme of post-VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' media is humanity and the former Covenant learning how to live and work together. However, this is played completely straight for the three High Prophets who ordered humanity's genocide in the first place, especially when we find out that [[spoiler:they only did it to prevent the truth from getting out about humanity's relationship to the Forerunners, which would have cost the Prophets their political power]].

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** The Covenant are an interesting case; as a whole, they murdered BILLIONS of humans on the word of their Prophets. However, it becomes clear that most of them are misguided, {{Punch Clock Villain}}s, or outright slaves, and a big theme of post-VideoGame/{{Halo post-''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' media is humanity and the former Covenant learning how to live and work together. However, this is played completely straight for the three High Prophets who ordered humanity's genocide in the first place, especially when we find out that [[spoiler:they only did it to prevent the truth from getting out about humanity's relationship to the Forerunners, which would have cost the Prophets their political power]].
11th Aug '16 6:13:37 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** The Covenant are an interesting case; as a whole, they murdered BILLIONS of humans on the word of their Prophets. However, it becomes clear that most of them are misguided, {{Punch Clock Villain}}s, or outright slaves, and a big theme of post-{{VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' media is humanity and the former Covenant learning how to live and work together. However, this is played completely straight for the three High Prophets who organized the whole thing in the first place, especially when we find out that [[spoiler:they only ordered the genocide to prevent the truth from getting out about humanity's relationship to the Forerunners, which would have cost the Prophets their political power]].

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** The Covenant are an interesting case; as a whole, they murdered BILLIONS of humans on the word of their Prophets. However, it becomes clear that most of them are misguided, {{Punch Clock Villain}}s, or outright slaves, and a big theme of post-{{VideoGame/{{Halo post-VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' media is humanity and the former Covenant learning how to live and work together. However, this is played completely straight for the three High Prophets who organized the whole thing ordered humanity's genocide in the first place, especially when we find out that [[spoiler:they only ordered the genocide did it to prevent the truth from getting out about humanity's relationship to the Forerunners, which would have cost the Prophets their political power]].
11th Aug '16 6:12:19 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The Covenant from the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' series have murdered BILLIONS. For an In-Game crossing, ''VideoGame/HaloReach'' is probably it, particularly during the mission Exodus, when they shoot down a ship that had 600 innocent people on it. After that, no one wonders why people have fun killing the alien jerks.
** In ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'', [[BigBad 343 Guilty Spark]] is a WellIntentionedExtremist (with emphasis on extreme); however, at the end of ''Halo 3'', Spark [[spoiler:murders Sgt. Johnson]]. This is somewhat understandable if you know Spark's background, however. Even when ignoring that he once [[spoiler:was a human who lived about 100,000 years before the game takes place, had his mind extracted and was turned into a floating lightbulb only to have all memories of his former life locked away in his databanks and made inaccessible to him when he was made the monitor of Installation 04, i.e. "his" Halo ring, there's still the fact that he not only had basically failed in his mission to preserve the functionality of his ring, but was also basically told that the replacement for his Halo was to be blown up as well even before it was finished.]] For an AI that's big on sticking to protocols, this was simply too much for him. Considering that -- just like human-made AIs -- even monitors can become rampant after a 100,000 years of solitude and practically nothing to do but routine maintenance work, it's not that surprising that Spark did what he did.

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The Covenant from the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' series have are an interesting case; as a whole, they murdered BILLIONS. BILLIONS of humans on the word of their Prophets. However, it becomes clear that most of them are misguided, {{Punch Clock Villain}}s, or outright slaves, and a big theme of post-{{VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'' media is humanity and the former Covenant learning how to live and work together. However, this is played completely straight for the three High Prophets who organized the whole thing in the first place, especially when we find out that [[spoiler:they only ordered the genocide to prevent the truth from getting out about humanity's relationship to the Forerunners, which would have cost the Prophets their political power]].
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For the Covenant pulling an an In-Game crossing, ''VideoGame/HaloReach'' is probably it, particularly during the mission Exodus, "Exodus", when they shoot down a ship that had 600 innocent people on it. After that, no one wonders why people have fun killing the alien jerks.
** In ''VideoGame/HaloCombatEvolved'', [[BigBad 343 Guilty Spark]] is a WellIntentionedExtremist (with emphasis on extreme); however, at the end of ''Halo 3'', ''VideoGame/{{Halo 3}}'', Spark [[spoiler:murders Sgt. Johnson]]. This is somewhat understandable if you know Spark's background, however. Even when ignoring that he once [[spoiler:was a human who lived about 100,000 years before the game takes place, had his mind extracted and was turned into a floating lightbulb only to have all memories of his former life locked away in his databanks and made inaccessible to him when he was made the monitor of Installation 04, i.e. "his" Halo ring, there's still the fact that he not only had basically failed in his mission to preserve the functionality of his ring, but was also basically told that the replacement for his Halo was to be blown up as well even before it was finished.]] For an AI that's big on sticking to protocols, this was simply too much for him. Considering that -- just like human-made AIs -- even monitors can become rampant after a 100,000 years of solitude and practically nothing to do but routine maintenance work, it's not that surprising that Spark did what he did.
10th Aug '16 8:33:25 PM bobg
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** ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys4'' gives us the unnamed older brother to the child protagonist. The guy is a complete asshat from the start, tormenting his younger sibling by using the child's fear of the Animatronics to terrorize him. He even goes so far as to abandon the child at the very restaurant with said Animatronics. And, yet, that's not even the point when he crosses the line. No, that happens when he and his equally dickish friends decide to shove the poor child into Fredbear's mouth. [[spoiler:[[ForegoneConclusion Fredbear bites down harder than anyone anticipated]], leaving the child with severe (and possibly fatal) injuries. Ok, so the older brother is [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone horrified at seeing]] [[spoiler:his younger brother's head crushed like an egg]], but it's too late by then for him to garner any sympathy from the audience.

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** ''VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys4'' gives us the unnamed %% The older brother to the child protagonist. The guy is a complete asshat from the start, tormenting his younger sibling by using the child's fear 4 is NOT an example of the Animatronics to terrorize him. He even goes so far crossing this, as to abandon the child at the very restaurant with said Animatronics. And, yet, that's not even the point when he crosses the line. No, that happens when he and his equally dickish friends decide to shove the poor child into Fredbear's mouth. [[spoiler:[[ForegoneConclusion Fredbear bites down harder than anyone anticipated]], leaving the child with severe (and possibly fatal) injuries. Ok, so the older brother is [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone horrified at seeing]] [[spoiler:his younger brother's head crushed like it was an egg]], but it's too late by then for him to garner any sympathy from the audience.accident.
9th Aug '16 11:11:25 PM Anddrix
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* The ending of ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'' -- due in no small part to the game's GreyAndGrayMorality -- has been something of a BaseBreaker among those who have played it regarding which character involved crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The game hints that the fungus directly alters a host's brain, so when [[spoiler:[[PlayerCharacter Joel]]]] and [[spoiler:[[TheImmune Ellie]]]] finally reach the [[spoiler:[[LaResistance Fireflies']] [[VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon headquarters]], their leader, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Marlene]], reveals to Joel that the operation required to synthesize a hypothetical vaccine would inevitably kill Ellie. By this point, Joel has developed an essentially [[PapaWolf familial bond]] with her, and after she has ordered a troop to remove him from the premises, he kills said troop and proceeds to [[OneManArmy fight or sneak]] his way to the operation room]]. Upon arrival, he [[spoiler:[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential may]] or [[VideoGameCaringPotential may not kill]] any or all of the surgeons present before carrying Ellie out, and killing Marlene when she attempts to dissuade him in the parking garage; effectively destroying current Firefly leadership and, given the fact that they were already on the defensive, possibly hampering any attempts of synthesizing a vaccine]].

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* The ending of ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs'' -- due in no small part to the game's GreyAndGrayMorality -- has been something of a BaseBreaker divisive among those who have played it regarding which character involved crossed the MoralEventHorizon. The game hints that the fungus directly alters a host's brain, so when [[spoiler:[[PlayerCharacter Joel]]]] and [[spoiler:[[TheImmune Ellie]]]] finally reach the [[spoiler:[[LaResistance Fireflies']] [[VeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon headquarters]], their leader, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Marlene]], reveals to Joel that the operation required to synthesize a hypothetical vaccine would inevitably kill Ellie. By this point, Joel has developed an essentially [[PapaWolf familial bond]] with her, and after she has ordered a troop to remove him from the premises, he kills said troop and proceeds to [[OneManArmy fight or sneak]] his way to the operation room]]. Upon arrival, he [[spoiler:[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential may]] or [[VideoGameCaringPotential may not kill]] any or all of the surgeons present before carrying Ellie out, and killing Marlene when she attempts to dissuade him in the parking garage; effectively destroying current Firefly leadership and, given the fact that they were already on the defensive, possibly hampering any attempts of synthesizing a vaccine]].
4th Aug '16 4:27:43 AM thatmadork
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* In ''VideoGame/WeHappyFew'', England was invaded by the Nazis in World War II, and the people of England did... ''[[NoodleIncident something]]'', something truly horrific to save themselves. Whatever it was, it worked, but the survivors were so wracked with guilt that they rebuilt their entire society around ''voluntary'' GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul and trying to deny what they did, just to avoid complete societal collapse.
30th Jul '16 11:20:14 AM SparkyLurkdragon
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* In ''SkiesOfArcadia'', Lord Galcian gains the ability to destroy any or all of the lands underneath the Six Moons. To display his newfound power, he [[spoiler:summons the Rains of Destruction from the Yellow Moon. What is underneath the Yellow Moon? Valua, the most technologically advanced land in Arcadia, and it just so happens to be Galcian's homeland as well! Galcian figured that if the most powerful country in the world could be reduced to ashes in no time, the rest would fall to him.]] What is amazing about this is that the [[spoiler:Valuan army, the army of the country that he just wiped off the map]], continue to stick with him, as Galcian is that much of a MagnificentBastard.

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* In ''SkiesOfArcadia'', ''VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia'', Lord Galcian gains the ability to destroy any or all of the lands underneath the Six Moons. To display his newfound power, he [[spoiler:summons the Rains of Destruction from the Yellow Moon. What is underneath the Yellow Moon? Valua, the most technologically advanced land in Arcadia, and it just so happens to be Galcian's homeland as well! Galcian figured that if the most powerful country in the world could be reduced to ashes in no time, the rest would fall to him.]] What is amazing about this is that the [[spoiler:Valuan army, the army of the country that he just wiped off the map]], continue to stick with him, as Galcian is that much of a MagnificentBastard.
26th Jul '16 4:35:58 PM Prometheus117
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** Also, Kokonoe's [[spoiler:experiments on Lambda and her hand in the creation of Ignis are seen as crossing the MoralEventHorizon]].
*** [[spoiler:Though she didn't know about Relius' plan to create Ignis until the plan was already underway, and she couldn't do much to stop it with the NOL beating down her door. At one point, she even [[ConverseWithTheUnconscious talks to a deactivated Lambda]] and says she thinks she's gone past the point of no return.]]

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** Also, For some, Kokonoe's [[spoiler:experiments on Lambda and her hand in the creation of Ignis are seen as crossing the MoralEventHorizon]].
*** [[spoiler:Though it should be noted that, while she didn't know about Relius' plan knew Relius wanted to create Ignis make a new Nox Nyctores core, she was completely unaware that it required the [[PoweredByAForsakenChild sacrifice of human souls]] until the plan was already underway, and she couldn't do much to stop it with the NOL beating down her door.door and the miniature Black Beast killing everyone. At one point, she even [[ConverseWithTheUnconscious talks to a deactivated Lambda]] and says she thinks she's gone past the point of no return.]]
22nd Jul '16 1:16:39 AM ACW
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* There are two points in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' that can be considered this for the player, both involving the already horrific [[KillEmAll Genocide path]], during which you have multiple opportunities to get off of (albeit with most of the cast being understandably furious at you.) The true point-of-no-return, however, is [[spoiler: at Hotland/The Core near the end of the game. You'll kill Mettaton NEO despite whatever you do, however if you don't kill ''everyone else'' beforehand the game considers that the protagonist lacks the conviction to truly carry out the rest of the slaughter, and boots them off the Genocide path into a Neutral path. Satisfying the kill quota, however, will lock you into the Genocide path for the rest of the game, and only resetting will stop it.]] The second, far more meta MEH is [[spoiler: actually ''completing'' the Genocide path, resulting in the First Child erasing all of existence and forcing the player to sell their soul to reset everything, which permanently taints the game, even if the player achieves the GoldenEnding later. You cross the MoralEventHorizon in the eyes of the First Child when you force them to [[CompleteMonster kill their own brother and best friend.]] Up until this point, you can reset and Chara will forgive you and go back to being the happy narrator we all knew and loved in the pacifist and neutral runs. Despite being a [[NeverMyFault convienent scapegoat for the genocide run]], Chara points out, very accurately, that YOU destroyed the world by killing everyone in it, and that YOU think you are [[NeverMyFault above consequences.]]]]

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* There are two points in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' that can be considered this for the player, both involving the already horrific [[KillEmAll Genocide path]], during which you have multiple opportunities to get off of (albeit with most of the cast being understandably furious at you.) The true point-of-no-return, however, is [[spoiler: at Hotland/The Core near the end of the game. You'll kill Mettaton NEO despite whatever you do, however if you don't kill ''everyone else'' beforehand the game considers that the protagonist lacks the conviction to truly carry out the rest of the slaughter, and boots them off the Genocide path into a Neutral path. Satisfying the kill quota, however, will lock you into the Genocide path for the rest of the game, and only resetting will stop it.]] The second, far more meta MEH is [[spoiler: actually ''completing'' the Genocide path, resulting in the First Child erasing all of existence and forcing the player to sell their soul to reset everything, which permanently taints the game, even if the player achieves the GoldenEnding later. You cross the MoralEventHorizon in the eyes of the First Child when you force them to [[CompleteMonster kill their own brother and best friend.]] friend. Up until this point, you can reset and Chara will forgive you and go back to being the happy narrator we all knew and loved in the pacifist and neutral runs. Despite being a [[NeverMyFault convienent scapegoat for the genocide run]], Chara points out, very accurately, that YOU destroyed the world by killing everyone in it, and that YOU think you are [[NeverMyFault above consequences.]]]]
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