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* And in ''Apollo Justice'', Kristoph Gavin, who among other things tried to kill an agoraphobic 12-year-old to cover up another crime. The fact that he managed to completely ruin Phoenix's career should make him a MagnificentBastard. [[ItsPersonal Somehow]], it doesn't.

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* And in ''Apollo Justice'', Kristoph Gavin, who among other things tried to kill an agoraphobic 12-year-old to cover up another crime. The fact Gavin. When one of his clients summarily dismissed him after a game of poker, he took it rather personally. So personally, in fact, that he managed didn't just ensure the man's case was lost - he got the lawyer defending him disbarred, using some evidence that he had ordered forged for his own trial, then tipping off the prosecution that it was a forgery. This on its own would only qualify him as MagnificentBastard, but there is more to completely ruin Phoenix's the story. There were several loose ends to clear up, including the defendant's disappearance. First, he staged an attempted kidnapping of the forger - a sheltered, timid twelve-year-old girl - and then when it left her too traumatized to go outside, he stopped by and gave her a good luck charm of a bottle of clear nail polish...which had a painful, extremely virulent, slow-acting poison in it. Kristoph had noticed her habit of biting her nails when nervous, so surely that would take care of her if she was ever pressured about what he'd had her make. He then meticulously kept tabs on everyone who had been involved with the case for ''seven whole years'' to make sure nothing went wrong - including ''befriending'' the man whose career should make him a MagnificentBastard. [[ItsPersonal Somehow]], it doesn't.he had ruined. And if that man hadn't been Phoenix Wright, he probably would have gotten away with all of it.
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* Damon Gant from the fifth case of the first game. In order to essentially put the prosecutor's office under his control, he killed Neil Marshall and set up the scene to make it look like his partner Lana's little sister Ema did it. He then helped Lana to rearrange the crime scene, and essentially had her doing his bidding for two years under threat of the "truth" getting out.

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** A minor point, but Von Karma was legitimately unaware of the fact that the particular piece of evidence that Gregory objected to was illegal. This does not change the fact that he has and did continue to use other pieces of falsified evidence



** A minor point, but Von Karma was legitimately unaware of the fact that the particular piece of evidence that Gregory objected to was illegal. This does not change the fact that he has and did continue to use other pieces of falsified evidence
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* If you're rooting for [[EnfantTerrible Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.

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* If you're rooting for [[EnfantTerrible Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old nineteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.
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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations 2]]'' has Bansai Ichiyanagi. Sided with the {{Bigger Bad}} of the story to assassinate the real president of Zheng Fa years ago and killed the reporter of that witnessed the murder. Later on, he killed the reporter's girlfriend and framed Kay for it. He also gave Manfred Von Karma the only penalty because he got caught forging evidence despite the fact he helped Von Karma with the evidence thus being responsible for the DL-6 incident that shortly followed. Additionally he blackmails many characters in the series to work with him if they value their lives which include tampering with the crime scene and hiding crucial evidence. He even blackmails the judge Mikagami to get her to work against Edgeworth because he [[IHaveYourWife kidnapped her adoptive son.]] [[AbusiveParents And let's not get started with the trauma]] [[BreaktheCutie he puts his son Yumihiko through the entire game]] who he constantly berates and telling him in the worse way possible that all his achievements he done was because of his connections (and knowing that Bansai has a lot of connections with shady folks, one can only imagine what would have happened if they didn't comply) and not from Yumihiko's hard work. Later on, he kidnaps his own son (but to be fair, he was aiming for Mikagami's son) and when Yumihiko finally snaps out of his {{Heroic BSOD}} thanks to Edgeworth, when he tries to confront his father, he proceeds to humiliate his son even more in court to the point [[IHavenoSon of disowning him]] in front of many people. Finally, the game implies that he murdered his own wife but the circumstances around that remains unknown (but from his personality and relationship with his son, it probably was from abuse.) This guy here is [[BeyondtheImpossible definitely worse]] than Von Karma.

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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations 2]]'' has Bansai Ichiyanagi. Sided with the {{Bigger Bad}} of the story to assassinate the real president of Zheng Fa years ago and killed the reporter of that witnessed the murder. Later on, he killed the reporter's girlfriend and framed Kay for it. He also gave Manfred Von Karma the only penalty because he got caught forging evidence despite the fact he helped Von Karma with the evidence thus being responsible for the DL-6 incident that shortly followed. Additionally he blackmails many characters in the series to work with him if they value their lives which include tampering with the crime scene and hiding crucial evidence. He even blackmails the judge Mikagami to get her to work against Edgeworth because he [[IHaveYourWife kidnapped her adoptive son.]] [[AbusiveParents And let's not get started with the trauma]] [[BreaktheCutie he puts his son Yumihiko through the entire game]] who he constantly berates and telling him in the worse way possible that all his achievements he done was because of his connections (and knowing that Bansai has a lot of connections with shady folks, one can only imagine what would have happened if they didn't comply) and not from Yumihiko's hard work. Later on, he kidnaps his own son (but to be fair, he was aiming for Mikagami's son) and when Yumihiko finally snaps out of his {{Heroic BSOD}} thanks to Edgeworth, when he tries to confront his father, he proceeds to humiliate his son even more in court to the point [[IHavenoSon of disowning him]] in front of many people. Finally, the game implies that he murdered his own wife but the circumstances around that remains unknown (but from his personality and relationship with his son, it probably was from abuse.) This guy here is [[BeyondtheImpossible definitely worse]] worse than Von Karma.
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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*[=DeMasque=] II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImpunity, too. Also, confronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].

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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*[=DeMasque=] II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque [=DeMasque=] II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque [=DeMasque=] II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImpunity, too. Also, confronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].
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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImpunity, too. Also, confronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].

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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque Mask*[=DeMasque=] II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImpunity, too. Also, confronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].
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* Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, right after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles, and a bailiff inside an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream). In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.

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* Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, right after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles, and a bailiff inside an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown Unbeknownst to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing shoulder, causing him to scream).scream. In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.
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* Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, right after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream). In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.

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* Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, right after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, Miles, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream). In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.
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* Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, directly after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream). In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.

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* Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, directly right after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream). In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.
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* If you're rooting for [[EnfantTerrible Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her acquitted woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.

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* If you're rooting for [[EnfantTerrible Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her acquitted woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.
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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImpunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].

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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImpunity, too. Also, cofronting confronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].lengthy]].
** Arguably the worst part about Alba is not so much his killings or even the reasons for them, but the fact that he has no remorse or regard for human life, which Edgeworth is disgusted by.



* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations 2]]'' has Bansai Ichiyanagi. Sided with the {{Bigger Bad}} of the story to assassinate the real president of Zheng Fa years ago and killed the reporter of that witnessed the murder. Later on, he killed the reporter's girlfriend and framed Kay for it. He also gave Manfred Von Karma the only penalty because he got caught forging evidence despite the fact he helped Von Karma with the evidence thus being responsible for the DL-6 incident that shortly followed. Additionally he blackmails many characters in the series to work with him if they value their lives which include tampering with the crime scene and hiding crucial evidence. He even blackmails the judge Mikagami to get her to work against Edgeworth because he [[IHaveYourWife kidnapped her adoptive son.]] [[AbusiveParents And let's not get started with the trauma]] [[BreaktheCutie he puts his son Yumihiko through the entire game]] who he constantly berates and telling him in the worse way possible that all his achievements he done was because of his connections (and knowing that Bansai has a lot of connections with shady folks, one can only imagine what would have happened if they didn't comply) and not from Yumihiko's hard work. Later on, he kidnaps his own son (but to be fair, he was aiming for Mikagami's son) and when Yumihiko finally snaps out of his {{Heroic BSOD}} thanks to Edgeworth, when he tries to confront his father, he proceeds to humiliate his son even more in court to the point [[IHavenoSon of disowning him]] in front of many people. Finally, the game implies that he murdered his own wife but the circumstances around that remains unknown (but from his personality and relationship with his son, it probably was from abuse.) This guy here is [[BeyondtheImpossible definitely worse]] than Von Karma.

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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations 2]]'' has Bansai Ichiyanagi. Sided with the {{Bigger Bad}} of the story to assassinate the real president of Zheng Fa years ago and killed the reporter of that witnessed the murder. Later on, he killed the reporter's girlfriend and framed Kay for it. He also gave Manfred Von Karma the only penalty because he got caught forging evidence despite the fact he helped Von Karma with the evidence thus being responsible for the DL-6 incident that shortly followed. Additionally he blackmails many characters in the series to work with him if they value their lives which include tampering with the crime scene and hiding crucial evidence. He even blackmails the judge Mikagami to get her to work against Edgeworth because he [[IHaveYourWife kidnapped her adoptive son.]] [[AbusiveParents And let's not get started with the trauma]] [[BreaktheCutie he puts his son Yumihiko through the entire game]] who he constantly berates and telling him in the worse way possible that all his achievements he done was because of his connections (and knowing that Bansai has a lot of connections with shady folks, one can only imagine what would have happened if they didn't comply) and not from Yumihiko's hard work. Later on, he kidnaps his own son (but to be fair, he was aiming for Mikagami's son) and when Yumihiko finally snaps out of his {{Heroic BSOD}} thanks to Edgeworth, when he tries to confront his father, he proceeds to humiliate his son even more in court to the point [[IHavenoSon of disowning him]] in front of many people. Finally, the game implies that he murdered his own wife but the circumstances around that remains unknown (but from his personality and relationship with his son, it probably was from abuse.) This guy here is [[BeyondtheImpossible definitely worse]] than Von Karma.Karma.
* Damon Gant from the fifth case of the first game. In order to essentially put the prosecutor's office under his control, he killed Neil Marshall and set up the scene to make it look like his partner Lana's little sister Ema did it. He then helped Lana to rearrange the crime scene, and essentially had her doing his bidding for two years under threat of the "truth" getting out.
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** But don't forget the red-haired cutie. Matt doesn't stand a chance. I mean, compare Matt's crime list with Dahlia's one: he drove a woman to suicide, ordered a murder and kidnapped a girl, while she planned a fraud, drove a man to suicide, killed a couple of people, and attempted to kill three more, one of them even after her DEATH. I think Matt deserves the silver, but the gold goes to Ms. Hawthorne.
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* Redd White does not care how many people commit suicide after he reveals their secrets or get ostracized because of hurtful information that isn't accurate, as long as he gets money to buy gems and women he can show off. He doesn't care whether the woman investigating him is a great mentor, sister, advocate, etc.; he'll still watch to see if she gets too much on him and kill her if she does. He also doesn't care how innocent the people he's setting up are.

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* Redd White does not care how many people commit suicide after he reveals their secrets or get ostracized because of hurtful information that isn't accurate, as long as he gets money to buy gems and women he can show off. He doesn't care whether the woman investigating him is a great mentor, sister, advocate, etc.; he'll still watch to see if she gets too much on him and kill her if she does. He also doesn't care how innocent the people he's setting up to take the fall for his actions are.
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* Redd White does not care how many people commit suicide after he reveals their secrets or get ostracized because of hurtful information that isn't accurate, as long as he gets money to buy gems and women he can show off. He doesn't care whether the woman investigating him is a great mentor, sister, advocate, etc.; he'll still watch to see if she gets too much on him and kill her if she does. He also doesn't care how innocent the people he's setting up are.
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** TheDragon for Alba, Calisto Yew, isn't very nice either. She arguably takes being an AmoralAttorney to even greater lengths then Gavin. She had no good reason to shoot at Edgeworth at the end of case 4. She kills people and laughs about it.

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** TheDragon for Alba, Calisto Yew, isn't very nice either. She arguably takes being an AmoralAttorney to even greater lengths then than Gavin. She had no good reason to shoot at Edgeworth at the end of case 4. She kills people and laughs about it.
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* Matt Engarde may well be the biggest CompleteMonster in the AceAttorney series. There is no motive given for the atrocities he committed (outside the murder), leading some to believe he did it ForTheEvulz. These atrocities are throwing away his manager, Celeste Inpax (whom he knew loved him) like a used tissue, and when she fell for his rival and got engaged, he told him that he was previously intimate with her in hopes this would cause him to call off the wedding. It worked. Celeste Inpax was so heartbroken [[DrivenToSuicide she committed suicide]]. Of course he doesn't just stop there. When he found out his rival now plots with his new manager Adrian Andrews against him, he hired Shelley de Killer to kill his rival, but ''still'' puts extra plans to blackmail him. Oh by the way, he also had Shelley de Killer kidnap Maya so Phoenix Wright becomes his attorney and make him acquitted for his crimes, and then PINNED the blame to Adrian, already an insecure, miserable woman. The knocker for this is because Engarde probably knew about Adrian's past and still he did it for extra lulz.

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* Matt Engarde may well be the biggest CompleteMonster in the AceAttorney series. There is no motive given for the atrocities he committed (outside the murder), leading some to believe he did it ForTheEvulz. These atrocities are throwing away his manager, Celeste Inpax (whom he knew loved him) like a used tissue, and when she fell for his rival and got engaged, he told him that he was previously intimate with her in hopes this would cause him to call off the wedding. It worked. Celeste Inpax was so heartbroken [[DrivenToSuicide she committed suicide]]. Of course he doesn't just stop there. When he found out his rival now plots with his new manager Adrian Andrews against him, he hired Shelley de Killer to kill his rival, but ''still'' puts extra plans to blackmail him. Oh by the way, he also had laughed when Shelley de Killer kidnap kidnapped Maya so Phoenix Wright becomes would become his attorney and make get him acquitted for his crimes, and then PINNED crimes. Then he let Phoenix PIN the blame to on Adrian, already an insecure, miserable woman. The knocker for this is because Engarde probably knew about Adrian's past and still he did it for extra lulz.
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** TheDragon for Alba, Calisto Yew, isn't very nice either. She arguably takes being an AmoralAttorney to even greater lengths then Gavin. She had no good reason to shoot at Edgeworth at the end of case 4. She kills people and laughs about it.
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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].

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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, DiplomaticImpunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].
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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].

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* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].lengthy]].
* ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations 2]]'' has Bansai Ichiyanagi. Sided with the {{Bigger Bad}} of the story to assassinate the real president of Zheng Fa years ago and killed the reporter of that witnessed the murder. Later on, he killed the reporter's girlfriend and framed Kay for it. He also gave Manfred Von Karma the only penalty because he got caught forging evidence despite the fact he helped Von Karma with the evidence thus being responsible for the DL-6 incident that shortly followed. Additionally he blackmails many characters in the series to work with him if they value their lives which include tampering with the crime scene and hiding crucial evidence. He even blackmails the judge Mikagami to get her to work against Edgeworth because he [[IHaveYourWife kidnapped her adoptive son.]] [[AbusiveParents And let's not get started with the trauma]] [[BreaktheCutie he puts his son Yumihiko through the entire game]] who he constantly berates and telling him in the worse way possible that all his achievements he done was because of his connections (and knowing that Bansai has a lot of connections with shady folks, one can only imagine what would have happened if they didn't comply) and not from Yumihiko's hard work. Later on, he kidnaps his own son (but to be fair, he was aiming for Mikagami's son) and when Yumihiko finally snaps out of his {{Heroic BSOD}} thanks to Edgeworth, when he tries to confront his father, he proceeds to humiliate his son even more in court to the point [[IHavenoSon of disowning him]] in front of many people. Finally, the game implies that he murdered his own wife but the circumstances around that remains unknown (but from his personality and relationship with his son, it probably was from abuse.) This guy here is [[BeyondtheImpossible definitely worse]] than Von Karma.

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[[CompleteMonster Really evil]] people in the ''AceAttorney'' series. '''Warning:''' since these are ''mystery'' games, [[SpoileredRotten abandon all spoiler-avoidance hope, ye who enter here]]!
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** And in ''Apollo Justice'', Kristoph Gavin, who among other things tried to kill an agoraphobic 12-year-old to cover up another crime. The fact that he managed to completely ruin Phoenix's career should make him a MagnificentBastard. [[ItsPersonal Somehow]], it doesn't.
** Matt Engarde may well be the biggest CompleteMonster in the AceAttorney series. There is no motive given for the atrocities he committed (outside the murder), leading some to believe he did it ForTheEvulz. These atrocities are throwing away his manager, Celeste Inpax (whom he knew loved him) like a used tissue, and when she fell for his rival and got engaged, he told him that he was previously intimate with her in hopes this would cause him to call off the wedding. It worked. Celeste Inpax was so heartbroken [[DrivenToSuicide she committed suicide]]. Of course he doesn't just stop there. When he found out his rival now plots with his new manager Adrian Andrews against him, he hired Shelley de Killer to kill his rival, but ''still'' puts extra plans to blackmail him. Oh by the way, he also had Shelley de Killer kidnap Maya so Phoenix Wright becomes his attorney and make him acquitted for his crimes, and then PINNED the blame to Adrian, already an insecure, miserable woman. The knocker for this is because Engarde probably knew about Adrian's past and still he did it for extra lulz.
*** But don't forget the red-haired cutie. Matt doesn't stand a chance. I mean, compare Matt's crime list with Dahlia's one: he drove a woman to suicide, ordered a murder and kidnapped a girl, while she planned a fraud, drove a man to suicide, killed a couple of people, and attempted to kill three more, one of them even after her DEATH. I think Matt deserves the silver, but the gold goes to Ms. Hawthorne.
** Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, directly after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream). In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.
** ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].

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** * And in ''Apollo Justice'', Kristoph Gavin, who among other things tried to kill an agoraphobic 12-year-old to cover up another crime. The fact that he managed to completely ruin Phoenix's career should make him a MagnificentBastard. [[ItsPersonal Somehow]], it doesn't.
** * Matt Engarde may well be the biggest CompleteMonster in the AceAttorney series. There is no motive given for the atrocities he committed (outside the murder), leading some to believe he did it ForTheEvulz. These atrocities are throwing away his manager, Celeste Inpax (whom he knew loved him) like a used tissue, and when she fell for his rival and got engaged, he told him that he was previously intimate with her in hopes this would cause him to call off the wedding. It worked. Celeste Inpax was so heartbroken [[DrivenToSuicide she committed suicide]]. Of course he doesn't just stop there. When he found out his rival now plots with his new manager Adrian Andrews against him, he hired Shelley de Killer to kill his rival, but ''still'' puts extra plans to blackmail him. Oh by the way, he also had Shelley de Killer kidnap Maya so Phoenix Wright becomes his attorney and make him acquitted for his crimes, and then PINNED the blame to Adrian, already an insecure, miserable woman. The knocker for this is because Engarde probably knew about Adrian's past and still he did it for extra lulz.
*** ** But don't forget the red-haired cutie. Matt doesn't stand a chance. I mean, compare Matt's crime list with Dahlia's one: he drove a woman to suicide, ordered a murder and kidnapped a girl, while she planned a fraud, drove a man to suicide, killed a couple of people, and attempted to kill three more, one of them even after her DEATH. I think Matt deserves the silver, but the gold goes to Ms. Hawthorne.
** * Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. Although Gregory still lost the case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, directly after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream). In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit. Von Karma also planned it out so that Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.
** * ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].
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*** But don't forget the red-haired cutie. Matt doesn't stand a chance. I mean, compare Matt's crime list with Dahlia's one: he drove a woman to suicide, ordered a murder and kidnapped a girl, while she planned a fraud, drove a man to suicide, killed a couple of people, and attempted to kill three more, one of them even after her DEATH. I think Matt deserves the silver, but the gold goes to Ms. Hawthorne.
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* If you're rooting for [[Enfant Terrible|Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her acquitted woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.

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* If you're rooting for [[Enfant Terrible|Dahlia [[EnfantTerrible Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her acquitted woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.
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* If you're rooting for Dahlia Hawthorne by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her acquitted woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.

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* If you're rooting for Dahlia Hawthorne [[Enfant Terrible|Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her acquitted woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught.
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** ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too.

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** ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was a member of the Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. Manny ordered the theft because he was planning to betray and usurp Alba, and was unaware that the fake statue had been switched with the real one. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too. Also, cofronting him and getting him to admit to his crimes is... [[ThatOneBoss difficult]]. [[EndingFatigue And lengthy]].
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** ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was [[spoiler:a member of the Yatagarasu]], DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too.

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** ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba.Alba, the head of a large smuggling ring. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was [[spoiler:a a member of the Yatagarasu]], Yatagarasu whose goal it was to expose his operation, DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too.

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* If you're rooting for [[spoiler:Dahlia Hawthorne]] by the end of ''PhoenixWrightAceAttorney: Trials and Tribulations'', there's something [[EvilIsSexy seriously]], ''[[FemmeFatale seriously]]'', [[ScrewTheRulesImBeautiful seriously]], [[TheVamp seriously]], '''''[[OverlyLongGag seriously]]''''' wrong with you. No other villain in the series cackled with delight at the prospect of [[spoiler:forcing an eighteen-year-old girl who would never hurt a fly to ''commit matricide'', or tricking her acquitted woobie of a boyfriend into a suicide pact so she could avoid getting caught]].
** And in ''Apollo Justice'', [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin, who among other things tried to kill an agoraphobic 12-year-old to cover up another crime. The fact that he managed to completely ruin Phoenix's career]] should make him a MagnificentBastard. [[ItsPersonal Somehow]], it doesn't.
** [[spoiler:Matt Engarde]] may well be the biggest CompleteMonster in the AceAttorney series. There is no motive given for the atrocities he committed (outside the murder), being [[spoiler: throwing away his manager (whom he knew loved him) like a used tissue, and when she fell for his rival and got engaged, he told him that he was previously intimate with her in hopes this would cause him to call off the wedding. It worked. Celeste Inpax was so heartbroken she committed suicide,]] leading some to believe he did it ForTheEvulz. [[spoiler:Of course he doesn't just stop there. When he found out his rival now plots with his new manager Adrian Andrews against him, he hired Shelley de Killer to kill his rival, but ''still'' puts extra plans to blackmail him. Oh by the way, he also had Shelley de Killer kidnap Maya so Phoenix Wright becomes his attorney and make him acquitted for his crimes, and then PINNED the blame to Adrian, already an insecure, miserable woman. The knocker for this is because Engarde probably knew about Adrian's past and still he did it for extra lulz.]]
** Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney [[spoiler:Gregory Edgeworth]] managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. [[spoiler:Although Gregory still lost the case,]] von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, directly after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped [[spoiler:Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream).]] In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma [[spoiler:picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit.]] Von Karma also planned it out so that [[spoiler:Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well.]] If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.

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caught.
** And in ''Apollo Justice'', [[spoiler:Kristoph Kristoph Gavin, who among other things tried to kill an agoraphobic 12-year-old to cover up another crime. The fact that he managed to completely ruin Phoenix's career]] career should make him a MagnificentBastard. [[ItsPersonal Somehow]], it doesn't.
** [[spoiler:Matt Engarde]] Matt Engarde may well be the biggest CompleteMonster in the AceAttorney series. There is no motive given for the atrocities he committed (outside the murder), being [[spoiler: leading some to believe he did it ForTheEvulz. These atrocities are throwing away his manager manager, Celeste Inpax (whom he knew loved him) like a used tissue, and when she fell for his rival and got engaged, he told him that he was previously intimate with her in hopes this would cause him to call off the wedding. It worked. Celeste Inpax was so heartbroken [[DrivenToSuicide she committed suicide,]] leading some to believe he did it ForTheEvulz. [[spoiler:Of suicide]]. Of course he doesn't just stop there. When he found out his rival now plots with his new manager Adrian Andrews against him, he hired Shelley de Killer to kill his rival, but ''still'' puts extra plans to blackmail him. Oh by the way, he also had Shelley de Killer kidnap Maya so Phoenix Wright becomes his attorney and make him acquitted for his crimes, and then PINNED the blame to Adrian, already an insecure, miserable woman. The knocker for this is because Engarde probably knew about Adrian's past and still he did it for extra lulz.]]
lulz.
** Additionally, Manfred von Karma. As a prosecutor, he had a flawless decades-long win streak, until defense attorney [[spoiler:Gregory Edgeworth]] Gregory Edgeworth managed to (rightfully) have von Karma penalized for his illegal workings in the courtroom. [[spoiler:Although Although Gregory still lost the case,]] case, von Karma was enraged by the black mark on his previously-perfect record. Unfortunately, directly after the end of the case, an earthquake hit the building. It trapped [[spoiler:Gregory Gregory Edgeworth, his nine-year-old son Miles Edgeworth, and a bailiff inside of an elevator. As oxygen was beginning to run out, the bailiff panicked and attacked Gregory. Miles threw a piece of evidence from the trial at them to get them to stop fighting, which turned out to be a gun. The gun fired once, a terrible scream was heard, and then Miles passed out from lack of oxygen. Unbeknown to the people in the elevator, von Karma had come across them. The bullet from the gun shot through the glass and hit his shoulder (causing him to scream).]] In revenge for the black mark against his record, von Karma [[spoiler:picked picked up the gun and shot the unconscious Gregory in the heart. Afterwards, von Karma took Miles under his wing, and, for fifteen years, raised Miles to be the antithesis of everything that Gregory Edgeworth was, twisting the boy to fit his views and become a ruthless, cold-hearted prosecutor who cared for nothing but getting a guilty verdict every time. Finally, on the very last day before the Gregory Edgeworth murder case was closed forever, von Karma set up a murder and pinned the blame on Miles Edgeworth, intending to have his own foster-son executed for a murder he didn't commit.]] Von Karma also planned it out so that [[spoiler:Miles Miles would be convinced that ''he himself'' was the only who had killed his father, and would confess to and be charged with that murder as well.]] well. If Manfred von Karma isn't a CompleteMonster, I am worried about your standards of morality.morality.
** ''[[AceAttorneyInvestigations Investigations]]'' has Quercus Alba. The other criminals of the game (except Lance) ''answer'' to this guy. He is the one who ordered the deaths of Cece Yew and Byrne Faraday, and killed Mask*DeMasque II and Manny Coachen with his own hands (well, with a statue and a knife, but you know what I mean). His reasons for these killings are as follows: Cece Yew was a witness who needed to be silenced, Byrne Faraday was [[spoiler:a member of the Yatagarasu]], DeMasque II was going to steal his fake statue, and with it, some plates used for a large-scale counterfeiting operation, and Manny Coachen because he ordered DeMasque II to steal it. He almost gets away with it due to DiplomaticImmunity, too.

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