History Manga / Shiki

11th Jul '16 1:51:01 AM spoonofevil
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%% * PyrrhicVictoryPyrrhicVictory: [[spoiler: Even though the villagers succeed in wiping out the Shiki, it comes with the high cost of most of the villagers being killed and the entire village getting burnt down. On the other end, Seishin and Sunako manage to escape with their lives, but Sunako's dream of a "Shiki Heaven" has pretty much been forever shattered.]]
9th Apr '16 11:19:17 PM DoorIntoSummer
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* IdiotBall: So many that the show was frustrating to watch.

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* IdiotBall: So many that the show was frustrating to watch.



** The doctor didn’t back the Cassandra lady up when she was accusing the new-arrived family. Doing this one thing could’ve prevented so many disasters that it’s not even funny.

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** The doctor didn’t back the Cassandra lady up when she was accusing the new-arrived newly arrived family. Doing this one thing could’ve would’ve likely prevented so many disasters that it’s not even funny.of the oncoming disasters.



** The behaviour of the whole village population is so moronic that it’s a wonder they managed to survive even before the arrival of vampires. As a minor example, no one is overly suspicious about people suddenly up and leaving the village (and leaving all their possessions behind at that), or that it’s the same vehicle that transports them away.

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** The behaviour of the whole village population is so moronic that it’s a wonder they managed to survive even before the arrival of vampires. Villagers in general were acting like low-intelligence [=NPCs=]. As a minor example, no one is was overly suspicious about people suddenly up and leaving the village (and leaving all their possessions behind at that), or that it’s it was always the same vehicle that transports transported them away.



** Chizuru for her 11th hour villain stupidity. She decides to drop her guard around Toshio for some reason and let him take her into the midst of a celebrating still-human crowd. Was she to wait only a little bit longer, she’d have gotten herself the vampiric village she was so eager to have.
** Same applies to Seishirou for not organising a better protection for his wife when she ''does'' decide to get herself into a crowd of humans.

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** Chizuru for her 11th hour villain stupidity. She decides decided to drop her guard around Toshio for some reason and let him take her into the midst of a celebrating still-human crowd. Was crowd of not yet turned humans. Were she to wait only a little bit longer, she’d have gotten herself the vampiric village she was so eager to have.
** Same applies to Seishirou for not organising a better protection for his wife when she ''does'' ''did'' decide to get herself into a crowd of humans.
9th Apr '16 10:09:34 PM DoorIntoSummer
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* IdiotBall: So many that the show was frustrating to watch.
** Natsuno, the Cassandra lady, and Natsuno’s child friends all knew about vampires being able to roam the streets at night, yet all of them left the protection of their houses at one point or another.
** The doctor didn’t back the Cassandra lady up when she was accusing the new-arrived family. Doing this one thing could’ve prevented so many disasters that it’s not even funny.
** On multiple occasions characters were hand-waving away why they couldn’t call an outside help to fix their vampire infestation problem with poorly concocted explanations.
** The behaviour of the whole village population is so moronic that it’s a wonder they managed to survive even before the arrival of vampires. As a minor example, no one is overly suspicious about people suddenly up and leaving the village (and leaving all their possessions behind at that), or that it’s the same vehicle that transports them away.
** One of the kids (that was initially trying to figure things out with Natsuno) eventually went into the vampire residence even though he’d been specifically warned against doing that because some vampires were able to stay active during the daytime.
** After finding out about vampires, on several occasions Toshio had a chance of saving a villager that was being thralled (the vegetarian nurse, for instance). He chose to do nothing and let them get hunted to death.
** Chizuru for her 11th hour villain stupidity. She decides to drop her guard around Toshio for some reason and let him take her into the midst of a celebrating still-human crowd. Was she to wait only a little bit longer, she’d have gotten herself the vampiric village she was so eager to have.
** Same applies to Seishirou for not organising a better protection for his wife when she ''does'' decide to get herself into a crowd of humans.
9th Apr '16 12:46:09 PM matteste
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* IdiotBall: So many that the show was frustrating to watch.
** Natsuno, the Cassandra lady, and Natsuno’s child friends all knew about vampires being able to roam the streets at night, yet all of them left the protection of their houses at one point or another.
** The doctor didn’t back the Cassandra lady up when she was accusing the new-arrived family. Doing this one thing could’ve prevented so many disasters that it’s not even funny.
** On multiple occasions characters were hand-waving away why they couldn’t call an outside help to fix their vampire infestation problem with poorly concocted explanations.
** The behaviour of the whole village population is so moronic that it’s a wonder they managed to survive even before the arrival of vampires. As a minor example, no one is overly suspicious about people suddenly up and leaving the village (and leaving all their possessions behind at that), or that it’s the same vehicle that transports them away.
** One of the kids (that was initially trying to figure things out with Natsuno) eventually went into the vampire residence even though he’d been specifically warned against doing that because some vampires were able to stay active during the daytime.
** After finding out about vampires, on several occasions Toshio had a chance of saving a villager that was being thralled (the vegetarian nurse, for instance). He chose to do nothing and let them get hunted to death.
** Chizuru for her 11th hour villain stupidity. She decides to drop her guard around Toshio for some reason and let him take her into the midst of a celebrating still-human crowd. Was she to wait only a little bit longer, she’d have gotten herself the vampiric village she was so eager to have.
** Same applies to Seishirou for not organising a better protection for his wife when she ''does'' decide to get herself into a crowd of humans.
26th Mar '16 10:32:03 PM SilentColossus
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** These vampires do not display classic traits such as supernatural strength, so they're fairly easily to fight in hand-to-hand combat. This makes it so the [[spoiler:the villagers can easily fight and kill them even during the night, as they outnumber the Shiki and are better armed.]]
2nd Dec '15 11:26:32 AM DoorIntoSummer
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* AdultsAreUseless: Natsuno's parents, [[TooDumbToLive especially his father]]. In one go, Dad managed to let a Shiki into the house, agreed to allow her brother in, disposed of all the charms and crosses Natsuno put in his room (because he hated superstition) and made sure to unlock the door (because the village is safe and doing so show the trust in others) -- all of which he managed to do out of his own will, without anyone hypnotizing or manipulating him.

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* AdultsAreUseless: AdultsAreUseless / AssholeVictim: Natsuno's parents, [[TooDumbToLive especially his father]]. In one go, Dad managed to let a Shiki into the house, agreed to allow her brother another one in, twice (!) disposed of all the charms and crosses Natsuno put in his Natsuno’s room meant for protection (because he hated superstition) and superstition), made sure to unlock the door (because the village is safe and doing so show shows the trust in others) -- all others), and unlock and open the window. All of which he managed to do out this of his own will, without anyone hypnotizing or manipulating him.



** Seishirou’s pack of dogs too served at least some plot device later on.



* ConflictBall / RuleOfDrama: The author’s trying to milk as much drama out of the setting as possible, and as a result the motivations behind many characters’ actions becomes if not straight out moronic then at least alien and nonsensical.
** There was also one particular scene where one shiki was going all out on the drama scale about how they can’t possibly coexist with humans because “who eats livestock piece by piece?” — completely forgetting that things like dairy industry exist, and he doesn’t need to eat them to use them as blood stock.



* DiabolusExMachina: [[spoiler: The villagers managed to save their village! Until a giant fire burned their entire village down.]]

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* DiabolusExMachina: DiabolusExMachina / TrashTheSet: [[spoiler: The villagers managed to save their village! Until a giant fire burned their entire village down.]]



* FromBadToWorse: [[AxCrazy And]] [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge HOW.]] Things go completely bonkers around Episode 18, [[spoiler: when the villagers [[GoMadFromTheRevelation discover the existence of the Shiki]].]]

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* FromBadToWorse: [[AxCrazy And]] [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge HOW.]] AxCrazy and RoaringRampageOfRevenge also apply. Things go completely bonkers around Episode 18, [[spoiler: when the villagers [[GoMadFromTheRevelation discover the existence of the Shiki]].]]



* HeWhoFightsMonsters: After the villagers find out about the Shiki, it slowly begins to fade between the line of who are the real monsters -- the Shiki or the humans? Especially [[spoiler:Toshio Ozaki]], who [[spoiler:tortures and kills his own wife]].

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: After the villagers find out about the Shiki, it slowly begins to fade between the line of who are the real monsters -- the Shiki or the humans? Especially [[spoiler:Toshio Ozaki]], who [[spoiler:tortures and kills the shiki of his own wife]].



* IdiotBall: So many that the show was frustrating to watch.
** Natsuno, the Cassandra lady, and Natsuno’s child friends all knew about vampires being able to roam the streets at night, yet all of them left the protection of their houses at one point or another.
** The doctor didn’t back the Cassandra lady up when she was accusing the new-arrived family. Doing this one thing could’ve prevented so many disasters that it’s not even funny.
** On multiple occasions characters were hand-waving away why they couldn’t call an outside help to fix their vampire infestation problem with poorly concocted explanations.
** The behaviour of the whole village population is so moronic that it’s a wonder they managed to survive even before the arrival of vampires. As a minor example, no one is overly suspicious about people suddenly up and leaving the village (and leaving all their possessions behind at that), or that it’s the same vehicle that transports them away.
** One of the kids (that was initially trying to figure things out with Natsuno) eventually went into the vampire residence even though he’d been specifically warned against doing that because some vampires were able to stay active during the daytime.
** After finding out about vampires, on several occasions Toshio had a chance of saving a villager that was being thralled (the vegetarian nurse, for instance). He chose to do nothing and let them get hunted to death.
** Chizuru for her 11th hour villain stupidity. She decides to drop her guard around Toshio for some reason and let him take her into the midst of a celebrating still-human crowd. Was she to wait only a little bit longer, she’d have gotten herself the vampiric village she was so eager to have.
** Same applies to Seishirou for not organising a better protection for his wife when she ''does'' decide to get herself into a crowd of humans.



* MoralDissonance: [[spoiler: Seishin. He waxes poetic to Toshio about all murder being wrong and walks out on him after he finds out he experimented on and staked his Shiki wife, but he has no problem getting close to Sunako, who's killed countless humans. Not because she needs to to survive, mind, but because she sees humans as cattle.]]

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* MoralDissonance: / ThouShaltNotKill: [[spoiler: Seishin. He waxes poetic to Toshio about all murder being wrong and walks out on him after he finds out he Toshio experimented on and staked his Shiki wife, but he has no problem getting close to Sunako, who's killed countless humans. Not because she needs to to survive, mind, but because she sees humans as cattle.]]



* TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou: Toshio’s PlotArmor’s explanation is that Chizuru forbids her minions to kill him, because she wants to eat him herself. Later.



* OurVampiresAreDifferent:

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* OurVampiresAreDifferent:OurVampiresAreDifferent / CallARabbitASmeerp:



* RasputinianDeath: [[spoiler: Megumi and Tatsumi.]]

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* RasputinianDeath: [[spoiler: Megumi Megumi, Kyouko, and Tatsumi.]]


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* SeriesContinuityError: Earlier in the series it is established that vampires neither breath nor have a heartbeat. Later, however, Megumi (who’s a shiki, not a werewolf) is shown to get out of breath after a scene of dramatic running.


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* SwissCheeseSecurity: One of the children manages to break into the vampire castle by... breaking the backdoor. Which was made of thin plywood.


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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Some shiki want to coexist with humans but think it’d be an impossible task. Many humans torture and kill ''any'' shiki they see without any empathy.
16th Sep '15 10:25:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* MustBeInvited: One of the key limitations of the Shiki is their inability to cross thresholds unless invited in. They get around it by biting people outside, then hypnotizing them to let them in whenever they ask.



* VampireInvitation: One of the key limitations of the Shiki is their inability to cross thresholds unless invited in. They get around it by biting people outside, then hypnotizing them to let them in whenever they ask.
20th Aug '15 7:10:30 AM AtticusOmundson
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* StrawNihilist: Seishin. [[spoiler:He hates himself and other humans so much that he ends up siding with the Shiki, as he believes that they at least kill because they have to.]]
18th Aug '15 2:17:56 PM AtticusOmundson
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* BreakTheCutie: [[spoiler:Kaori goes AxCrazy in Chapter 32 when her undead father tries to kill her. She applies a baseball bat to his head multiple times, and when that doesn't kill him, she gets out a ''pickaxe'' to finish him off. She then proceeds to shove his unrecognizable corpse into a closet for good measure.]]

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* BreakTheCutie: [[spoiler:Kaori goes AxCrazy in Chapter 32 when her undead father tries to kill her. She applies a baseball bat to his head multiple times, and when that doesn't kill him, she gets out a ''pickaxe'' to finish him off. She then proceeds to shove his unrecognizable corpse into a closet for good measure. The epilogue shows that she at least somewhat recovers.]]
18th Aug '15 9:49:24 AM AtticusOmundson
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* MoralityKitchenSink: [[spoiler: The Shiki vary from sympathetic to monsters, some of them even resisting their hunger, others killing for fun. On the humans side we have Toshio, who has crossed the MoralEventHorizon, but most of them just want to protect themselves from the Shiki. Things have become even more complicated when humans have started an uprising against the Shiki and kill them without remorse. Some humans then start killing people who so much as have a single bitemark on them and it gets worse from there.]]

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* MoralityKitchenSink: [[spoiler: The Shiki vary from sympathetic to monsters, some of them even resisting their hunger, others killing for fun. On the humans side we have Toshio, who has crossed the MoralEventHorizon, MoralEventHorizon (and even then , he still considers killing their hypnotized victims to be true murder), but most of them just want to protect themselves from the Shiki. Things have become even more complicated when humans have started an uprising against the Shiki and kill them without remorse. Some humans then start killing people who so much as have a single bitemark on them and it gets worse from there.]]]]
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Happens to Nao in episode 20.5. She believes that her family not rising up with her [[spoiler: and her subsequent slaying by the villagers]] to be her punishment for killing them.
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