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24th Mar '17 2:01:59 AM WillBGood
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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The very plot essentially revolves around the question of whether Tenma's idealism and determination to cause good by doing good can survive against Johan's horrifyingly convincing attempts to demonstrate that they're NotSoDifferent and that it's all a SickSadWorld in which an act of human kindness is objectively futile.

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The very plot essentially revolves around the question of whether Tenma's idealism and determination to cause good by doing good can survive against Johan's horrifyingly convincing attempts to demonstrate that they're NotSoDifferent and that it's all a SickSadWorld CrapsackWorld in which an act of human kindness is objectively futile.
27th Jan '17 9:09:38 PM Javertshark13
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** Johan is born from a eugenics experiment, with his father implied to have been killed soon after his birth. He and his sister grow up rather isolated, before Bonaparta [[SadisticChoice makes his mother choose who to give up]], with her reaction seriously messing him up. His mother is taken away as well, leaving him alone in the house with only [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Bonaparta's books]] for company. When his sister comes back and tells him what happened, Johan internalizes her experiences and thinks they happened to ''him.'' They run away together, with Johan killing anyone who tries to help them out of paranoia. They end up passing out from exhauston and starvation. Then Johan is separated from his sister ''again'' and sent to [[OrphanageOfFear 511 Kinderheim.]] Aside from experiencing everything the others did there, he was drugged and feared that he would lose his memories of his sister. He ended up inducing everyone else into a riot to escape. He gets reunited with his sister, and they're sent to live with the Lieberts, only for Bonaparta to show up one night. Johan is convinced that he is there to harm them, and ends up shooting the Lieberts dead. When his sister discovers this, [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou he asks her to shoot him.]] She does, and it's later implied that he may have turned out different had she not done so.

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** Johan is born from a eugenics experiment, with his father implied to have been killed soon after his birth. He and his sister grow up rather isolated, before [[spoiler: Bonaparta [[SadisticChoice makes his mother choose who to give up]], with her reaction seriously messing him up. His mother is taken away as well, leaving him alone in the house with only [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Bonaparta's books]] for company. When his sister comes back and tells him what happened, Johan internalizes her experiences and thinks they happened to ''him.'' '']] They run away together, with Johan killing anyone who tries to help them out of paranoia. They end up passing out from exhauston and starvation. Then Johan is separated from his sister ''again'' and sent to [[OrphanageOfFear 511 Kinderheim.]] Aside from experiencing everything the others did there, he was drugged and feared that he would lose his memories of his sister. He ended up inducing everyone else into a riot to escape. He gets reunited with his sister, and they're sent to live with the Lieberts, only for Bonaparta [[spoiler: Bonaparta]] to show up one night. Johan is convinced that he is there to harm them, and ends up shooting the Lieberts dead. When his sister discovers this, [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou he asks her to shoot him.]] She does, and it's later implied that he may have turned out different had she not done so.
26th Jan '17 5:45:00 PM Az_Tech341
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** Johan is born from a eugenics experiment, with his father implied to have been killed soon after his birth. He and his sister grow up rather isolated, before Bonaparta [[SadisticChoice makes his mother choose who to give up.]], with her reaction seriously messing him up. His mother is taken away as well, leaving him alone in the house with only [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Bonaparta's books]] for company. When his sister comes back and tells him what happened, Johan internalizes her experiences and thinks they happened to ''him.'' They run away together, with Johan killing anyone who tries to help them out of paranoia. They end up passing out from exhauston and starvation. Then Johan is separated from his sister ''again'' and sent to [[OrphanageOfFear 511 Kinderheim.]] Aside from experiencing everything the others did there, he was drugged and feared that he would lose his memories of his sister. He ended up inducing everyone else into a riot to escape. He gets reunited with his sister, and they're sent to live with the Lieberts, only for Bonaparta to show up one night. Johan is convinced that he is there to harm them, and ends up shooting the Lieberts dead. When his sister discovers this, [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou he asks her to shoot him.]] She does, and it's later implied that he may have turned out different had she not done so.

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** Johan is born from a eugenics experiment, with his father implied to have been killed soon after his birth. He and his sister grow up rather isolated, before Bonaparta [[SadisticChoice makes his mother choose who to give up.]], up]], with her reaction seriously messing him up. His mother is taken away as well, leaving him alone in the house with only [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Bonaparta's books]] for company. When his sister comes back and tells him what happened, Johan internalizes her experiences and thinks they happened to ''him.'' They run away together, with Johan killing anyone who tries to help them out of paranoia. They end up passing out from exhauston and starvation. Then Johan is separated from his sister ''again'' and sent to [[OrphanageOfFear 511 Kinderheim.]] Aside from experiencing everything the others did there, he was drugged and feared that he would lose his memories of his sister. He ended up inducing everyone else into a riot to escape. He gets reunited with his sister, and they're sent to live with the Lieberts, only for Bonaparta to show up one night. Johan is convinced that he is there to harm them, and ends up shooting the Lieberts dead. When his sister discovers this, [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou he asks her to shoot him.]] She does, and it's later implied that he may have turned out different had she not done so.
26th Jan '17 12:48:29 PM Javertshark13
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** Tenma's father wanted him to take over the family clinic at his brother's expense, which Tenma didn't want. He came across one of Dr. Heinemann's papers and seized the chance to come to Germany, which fractured his relationship with his family. Turns out that paper was actually the work of a ghostwriter, and Tenma ends up becoming one himself, writing many of his boss's papers for him, while recieving no credit, and ends up in a relationship with Eva, who didn't treat him very well. Then he finds out his boss is corrupt and got one of his patients killed. His boss shows no remorse and cancels important research Tenma was working on so that he can write a speech for him. Then Johan comes along, and after a SadisticChoice from hell over whom to save, Tenma's career gets wrecked seemingly beyond repair.

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** Tenma's father wanted him to take over the family clinic at his brother's expense, which Tenma didn't want. He came across one of Dr. Heinemann's papers and seized the chance to come to Germany, which fractured his relationship with his family. Turns out that paper was actually the work of a ghostwriter, and Tenma ends up becoming one himself, writing many of his boss's papers for him, while recieving no credit, and credit. He ends up in a relationship with Eva, who didn't treat him very well. Then he finds out his boss is corrupt and got one of his patients killed. His boss shows no remorse and cancels important research Tenma was working on so that he can write a speech for him. Then Johan comes along, and after a SadisticChoice from hell over whom to save, Tenma's career gets wrecked seemingly beyond repair. To top it off, that paper that originally inspired him wasn't even written by the director.
26th Jan '17 12:46:01 PM Javertshark13
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* TraumaCongaLine: Tenma and Johan both went through this.
** Tenma's father wanted him to take over the family clinic at his brother's expense, which Tenma didn't want. He came across one of Dr. Heinemann's papers and seized the chance to come to Germany, which fractured his relationship with his family. Turns out that paper was actually the work of a ghostwriter, and Tenma ends up becoming one himself, writing many of his boss's papers for him, while recieving no credit, and ends up in a relationship with Eva, who didn't treat him very well. Then he finds out his boss is corrupt and got one of his patients killed. His boss shows no remorse and cancels important research Tenma was working on so that he can write a speech for him. Then Johan comes along, and after a SadisticChoice from hell over whom to save, Tenma's career gets wrecked seemingly beyond repair.
** Johan is born from a eugenics experiment, with his father implied to have been killed soon after his birth. He and his sister grow up rather isolated, before Bonaparta [[SadisticChoice makes his mother choose who to give up.]], with her reaction seriously messing him up. His mother is taken away as well, leaving him alone in the house with only [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Bonaparta's books]] for company. When his sister comes back and tells him what happened, Johan internalizes her experiences and thinks they happened to ''him.'' They run away together, with Johan killing anyone who tries to help them out of paranoia. They end up passing out from exhauston and starvation. Then Johan is separated from his sister ''again'' and sent to [[OrphanageOfFear 511 Kinderheim.]] Aside from experiencing everything the others did there, he was drugged and feared that he would lose his memories of his sister. He ended up inducing everyone else into a riot to escape. He gets reunited with his sister, and they're sent to live with the Lieberts, only for Bonaparta to show up one night. Johan is convinced that he is there to harm them, and ends up shooting the Lieberts dead. When his sister discovers this, [[PleaseKillMeIfItSatisfiesYou he asks her to shoot him.]] She does, and it's later implied that he may have turned out different had she not done so.
21st Dec '16 12:03:02 AM TheBigBopper
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->''"Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"''

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\n->''"Who [[caption-width-right:248:''"Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"''
him?"'']]
18th Dec '16 1:45:08 PM Javertshark13
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* HateSink: Tenma's superiors at the start, Blue Sophie, and Inspector Zemen, among others.
2nd Dec '16 4:46:32 AM aishwarya
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* HeWillNotCrySoICryForHim: Grimmer hugs Milos and starts to cry when he sees that Milos is so traumatised that he has lost all empathy and emotion. It works, because Milos's eyes flicker and lose their ThousandYardStare and he returns Grimmer's hug.
2nd Dec '16 4:18:24 AM aishwarya
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* SadisticChoice

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* SadisticChoiceSadisticChoice: Johan presents [[spoiler: Tenma]] with one right at the end, when he holds a gun to [[spoiler: Wim]]'s head to force [[spoiler: Tenma]] to choose whether he will [[spoiler: shoot Johan against his principles]] or allow [[spoiler: Wim]] to die. [[spoiler: Thankfully, Wim's father's intervention alleviates the necessity for Tenma to take either option.]]
29th Sep '16 7:59:28 AM Wuz
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: In-universe, courtesy of Franz Bonaparta.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: In-universe, courtesy of Franz Bonaparta.Bonaparta's books deliberately contain plenty of these like, "Sometimes you're simply screwed no matter which choice you take."
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