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11th Sep '17 8:05:16 AM thatmadork
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** It is explicitly stated that they are the most evil race in the whole setting, and this is a place where [[OurDemonsAreDifferent daemons]] exist. Vampires are [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes capable of genuine love even though they'll enslave whole populations of living people to use as food and servants]], Dark Elves are driven to cruelty as a way of life and some individuals can become questionably heroic, and even Orcs can have attachments and comraderie with their fellow greenskins. Skaven hate everyone and everything; they are more cowardly than goblins, more cruel than Dark Elves and even more fractitious than Chaos, and no Skaven character thus far as shown any sympathetic or redeeming traits whatsoever.

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** It is explicitly stated that they are the most evil race in the whole setting, and this is a place where [[OurDemonsAreDifferent daemons]] exist. Vampires are [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes capable of genuine love and affection]] even though they'll enslave whole populations of living people to use as food and servants]], Dark Elves are driven to cruelty as a way of life and some individuals can become questionably heroic, and even Orcs can the most brutish Orc will go off and have attachments and comraderie with their fellow greenskins. a cry if his pet squig dies. Skaven hate everyone and everything; they are more cowardly than goblins, Goblins, more cruel than Dark Elves and even more fractitious than Chaos, and no Chaos. No Skaven character thus far as shown any sympathetic or redeeming traits whatsoever. whatsoever, nor have they ever shown any concern or love for anyone other than themselves. The only thing that unites the Skaven at all is hatred of any living thing that isn't a Skaven, [[EnemyMine giving them a common enemy to fight]] lest they fall in against each other like... well, a pack of rats.
11th Sep '17 7:57:43 AM thatmadork
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** It is explicitly stated that they are the most evil race in the whole setting, and this is a place where [[OurDemonsAreDifferent daemons]] exist. Vampires are [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes capable of genuine love even though they'll enslave whole populations of living people to use as food and servants]], Dark Elves are driven to cruelty as a way of life and some individuals can become questionably heroic, and even Orcs can have attachments and comraderie with their fellow greenskins. Skaven hate everyone and everything; they are more cowardly than goblins, more cruel than Dark Elves and even more fractitious than Chaos, and no Skaven character thus far as shown any sympathetic or redeeming traits whatsoever.
10th Sep '17 8:01:39 AM VagabondPeafowl
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** The Rat King from the cartoons is a subversion, as the rats were harmless until they were in the Rat King's power (and the Rat King himself was human).

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** The Rat King from the cartoons is a subversion, as the rats were harmless until they were in the Rat King's power (and the Rat King himself was human).
2nd Sep '17 10:29:18 PM DarkHunter
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* ''The CountryMouse and CityMouse Adventures'' even states rats are antagonists in the [[{{earworm}} catchy]] intro.

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* ''The CountryMouse and CityMouse Adventures'' even states rats are antagonists in the [[{{earworm}} catchy]] intro. Finding a ''good'' rat in one episode is treated as significant, and even then that rat used to be a criminal but decided to reform himself.
2nd Sep '17 11:54:44 AM RedScharlach
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* Trevor the Rat from ''Film/MeetTheFeebles'' is the physical embodiment of this trope. He's a drug-dealing mobster who shoots pornos (and considers making a SnuffFilm when his lead male actor dies), murders people, tries to [[spoiler:rape]] Lucille the Poodle, smokes, eats the corpses of a character's dead pets in front of him, and is quite the JerkAss to his fellow employees (save for his boss, Mr. Bletch, and Barry, another mobster). He even ''looks'' like a dirty rat, and is literally (and rightfully) called one by Robert. The fact that Trevor's voice is based on that of Creator/PeterLorre only seems to capitalize this trope. Overall, Trevor has no redeeming qualities, [[spoiler:so it's no surprise if you find yourself cheering and/or laughing when he gets shredded like a salad with a machine-gun]].

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* Trevor the Rat from ''Film/MeetTheFeebles'' is the physical embodiment of this trope. He's a drug-dealing mobster who shoots pornos (and considers making a SnuffFilm when his lead male actor dies), murders people, tries to [[spoiler:rape]] Lucille the Poodle, smokes, eats the corpses of a character's dead pets in front of him, and is quite the JerkAss to his fellow employees (save for his boss, Mr. Bletch, and Barry, another mobster). He even ''looks'' like a dirty rat, and is literally (and rightfully) called one by Robert. The fact that Trevor's voice is based on that of Creator/PeterLorre only seems to capitalize this trope. Overall, Trevor has no redeeming qualities, [[spoiler:so it's no surprise if you find yourself cheering and/or laughing when he gets shredded like a salad with by a machine-gun]].



** This sounds fairly close to their behavior in RealLife. Black rats tend to be solitary and agressive, and aren't even that common.

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** This sounds fairly close to their behavior in RealLife. Black rats tend to be solitary and agressive, aggressive, and aren't even that common.



* ''Literature/JohnCarterOfMars'': the Martian equivalents of the rats, Ulsio's, are flesh eating monsters the size of Airdale terrier. ''John Carter and the Giant of Mars'' also introduces three-legged rats, who aren't any better than Ulsio's.

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* ''Literature/JohnCarterOfMars'': the Martian equivalents of the rats, Ulsio's, Ulsios, are flesh eating flesh-eating monsters the size of Airdale terrier. Airedale terriers. ''John Carter and the Giant of Mars'' also introduces three-legged rats, who aren't any better than Ulsio's.Ulsios.



** And then there's TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'s Cranium Rats -- one isn't smarter than a normal rodent, but their telepatic abilities bind their little powers and intellects into a HiveMind, so a pack of three dozen can cast minor spells, half a hundred are as smart as an average human, and so on. They're NeutralEvil, and some or all of them are spies of [[EldritchAbomination illithid god Ilsensine]].

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** And then there's TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'s Cranium Rats -- one isn't smarter than a normal rodent, but their telepatic telepathic abilities bind their little powers and intellects into a HiveMind, so a pack of three dozen can cast minor spells, half a hundred are as smart as an average human, and so on. They're NeutralEvil, and some or all of them are spies of [[EldritchAbomination illithid god Ilsensine]].



* The rats in ''LittleKingsStory'' appear quite mischievious, and the narrator seems none to fond of them. [[spoiler: In the end, it's [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever very justified.]]]]

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* The rats in ''LittleKingsStory'' appear quite mischievious, mischievous, and the narrator seems none to fond of them. [[spoiler: In the end, it's [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever very justified.]]]]
29th Aug '17 9:09:58 AM BeerBaron
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* Rats are almost always evil disease-carrying pests in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series. One notable exception is the initial Fighter's Guild quest in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion''. You have to ''save'' a woman's beloved pet rats from hungry mountain lions. In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' they are replaced by Skeevers, which are even bigger, uglier, and filthier. One of the Thieves' Guild quests pits you against a wizard who went crazy trying to convince people that Skeevers are awesome. He now plots to overrun Whiterun with a swarm of mutated venomous Skeevers. Interestingly, it seems that Skeevers aren't always bad either. The owner of the Winking Skeever inn in Solitude named the inn in memory of his beloved childhood pet Skeever.

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* Rats ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** The series has long had [[RodentsOfUnusualSize giant rats]] as a low-level enemy. They
are almost always evil disease-carrying pests in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series. One notable exception is the initial Fighter's Guild hostile and frequently carry diseases. A RatStomp, be it an official quest or simply running into rats as one of the first enemies, is a series' tradition as an early game staple.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', this is Inverted
in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion''. an early [[AdventureGuild Fighters Guild]] quest. You have to ''save'' a woman's beloved pet rats from [[spoiler: hungry mountain lions. In lions]].
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''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' they are replaced by Skyrim]]'':
*** ''Skyrim'' replaces standard rats with
Skeevers, which are even bigger, uglier, and filthier. One of the Thieves' Guild A ThievesGuild quests pits you against a [[spoiler:a wizard who went crazy trying to convince people that Skeevers are awesome. He now plots to overrun Whiterun with a swarm of mutated venomous Skeevers.Skeevers]]. Interestingly, it seems that Skeevers aren't always bad either. The owner of the Winking Skeever inn Inn in Solitude named the inn in memory of his beloved childhood pet Skeever.Skeever.
*** In his quest, Peryite, the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] of [[{{Plaguemaster}} Pestilence]] and Tasks, fittingly manifests in the form of a swarm of ghostly Skeevers.
11th Aug '17 2:14:47 PM ElSquibbonator
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* The Mice in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' are all virtuous, loving immigrants. Warren T. Rat, on the other hand, [[spoiler:isn't even a rat, but [[AssInALionSkin a cat]], and one of the bad ones at that]]. It also briefly features a huge, scary rat who is a sweatshop owner. On the other hand, rats show up as background characters in the original film and its sequels, and while some do act jerkish, the great majority is just trying to survive alongside the mice.

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* The Mice in ''WesternAnimation/AnAmericanTail'' are all virtuous, loving immigrants. Warren T. Rat, on the other hand, [[spoiler:isn't even a rat, but [[AssInALionSkin a cat]], and one of the bad ones at that]]. It also briefly features a huge, scary rat who is a sweatshop owner. On the other hand, The second sequel, ''The Treasure of Manhattan Island'', features a group of CorruptCorporateExecutive rats show up who run a cheese factory as background characters in the original film and its sequels, and while some do act jerkish, the great majority is just trying to survive alongside the mice.main villains.
31st Jul '17 7:32:09 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ''WatershipDown'' uses this one. The rabbits are attacked by a pack of rats just after escaping from Strawberry's original warren. Then again, later in the book Hazel, during the first trip to Nuthanger Farm, stops to ask a rat for directions and gets a quite civil answer, even if, as the narrative notes, the rat had no particular reason to be friendly.

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* ''WatershipDown'' ''Literature/WatershipDown'' uses this one. The rabbits are attacked by a pack of rats just after escaping from Strawberry's original warren. Then again, later in the book Hazel, during the first trip to Nuthanger Farm, stops to ask a rat for directions and gets a quite civil answer, even if, as the narrative notes, the rat had no particular reason to be friendly.
18th Jul '17 10:30:28 PM Arachnos
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* The Mouse King in the [[Theatre/TheNutcracker Nutcracker Ballet]] is probably one of the more famous examples and a subversion of the "mice are nice" part. He even has [[MultipleHeadCase three heads]] in some versions of the story.

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* The Mouse King in the [[Theatre/TheNutcracker Nutcracker Ballet]] is probably one of the more famous examples and a subversion of the "mice are nice" part. He even has [[MultipleHeadCase three heads]] in some versions of the story.story, and a whopping '''seven''' in the original tale.
11th Jul '17 7:50:58 AM SSJMagus
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** Contrary to the "dirty" stereotype, rats are generally cleaner than other rodents, being fairly conscientious about grooming themselves.
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