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4th Oct '17 1:03:18 PM Fireblood
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4th Oct '17 6:57:21 AM Jhonny
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* UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance is often portrayed as too clean, when in reality hygiene had a marked decline in that era due to it being seen as unchristian to bathe (as in "in a bathtub") since it was an activity embraced by non-Christian societies like the Ottoman Empire, and also due to public baths having spread ThePlague, which was blamed on people "pridefully" wanting to be clean. Taking what we call a sponge bath, with a basin and washcloth, wasn't nearly as frowned upon, and can be just as effective. Washing your ''clothes'', however, was more difficult. Modern men and women have very little idea just what women had to go through before the invention of the washing machine and dryer.

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* UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance is often portrayed as too clean, when in reality hygiene had a marked decline in that era due to it being seen as unchristian to bathe (as in "in a bathtub") since it was an activity embraced by non-Christian societies like the Ottoman Empire, and also due to public baths being blamed for having spread ThePlague, which was blamed on people "pridefully" wanting to be clean. Taking what we call a sponge bath, with a basin and washcloth, wasn't nearly as frowned upon, and can be just as effective. Washing your ''clothes'', however, was more difficult. Modern men and women have very little idea just what women had to go through before the invention of the washing machine and dryer.
16th Sep '17 4:01:10 PM nombretomado
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* TheRenaissance is often portrayed as too clean, when in reality hygiene had a marked decline in that era due to it being seen as unchristian to bathe (as in "in a bathtub") since it was an activity embraced by non-Christian societies like the Ottoman Empire, and also due to public baths having spread ThePlague, which was blamed on people "pridefully" wanting to be clean. Taking what we call a sponge bath, with a basin and washcloth, wasn't nearly as frowned upon, and can be just as effective. Washing your ''clothes'', however, was more difficult. Modern men and women have very little idea just what women had to go through before the invention of the washing machine and dryer.

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* TheRenaissance UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance is often portrayed as too clean, when in reality hygiene had a marked decline in that era due to it being seen as unchristian to bathe (as in "in a bathtub") since it was an activity embraced by non-Christian societies like the Ottoman Empire, and also due to public baths having spread ThePlague, which was blamed on people "pridefully" wanting to be clean. Taking what we call a sponge bath, with a basin and washcloth, wasn't nearly as frowned upon, and can be just as effective. Washing your ''clothes'', however, was more difficult. Modern men and women have very little idea just what women had to go through before the invention of the washing machine and dryer.
11th Sep '17 10:23:10 AM GrammarNavi
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* Discussed and ultimately defied in ''(Re) Vive l'Empereur!'' After getting a taste of life in 2015 France and discovering that quite a lot of people are nostalgic of his reign, NapoleonBonaparte more or less calls them deluded, saying that if they are so unhappy in their own time, they won't be happier in any other era.

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* Discussed and ultimately defied in ''(Re) Vive l'Empereur!'' After getting a taste of life in 2015 France and discovering that quite a lot of people are nostalgic of his reign, NapoleonBonaparte UsefulNotes/NapoleonBonaparte more or less calls them deluded, saying that if they are so unhappy in their own time, they won't be happier in any other era.
2nd Sep '17 12:02:47 PM nombretomado
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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' once had John Oliver try to track down when "The Good Ol' Days" ''were'', after hearing the likes of GlennBeck, SeanHannity, and Creator/BillOReilly lament their passing. He proceeded to interview people who'd grown up in each preceding decade (starting at the '70s), all of whom disproved the notion by [[LongList listing the things that were screwy]] during that period, culminating in a woman who'd lived in the '30s describing TheGreatDepression. He concluded they [[NostalgiaFilter all felt the good old days were when they'd been children]], since everything usually seems better at that point, largely because parents will go to great lengths to protect their children form poor circumstances.

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* ''Series/TheDailyShow'' once had John Oliver try to track down when "The Good Ol' Days" ''were'', after hearing the likes of GlennBeck, Radio/GlennBeck, SeanHannity, and Creator/BillOReilly lament their passing. He proceeded to interview people who'd grown up in each preceding decade (starting at the '70s), all of whom disproved the notion by [[LongList listing the things that were screwy]] during that period, culminating in a woman who'd lived in the '30s describing TheGreatDepression. He concluded they [[NostalgiaFilter all felt the good old days were when they'd been children]], since everything usually seems better at that point, largely because parents will go to great lengths to protect their children form poor circumstances.
25th Aug '17 6:46:09 PM nombretomado
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Ye Goode Olde Days comes into play when a historical or quasi-historical work makes things much nicer than they would really have been. Usually it stems from only partly Doing The Research: they might get the big stuff right -- authentic plate armour, the right kind of architecture, all that -- but the details of life in the past can be lost. So the farm village has nicely kept gravel paths, and everyone in the medieval village lives in a lovely half-timbered house with two bedrooms and a stone fireplace. The Renaissance maiden never gets mudstains on the train of her beautiful gowns, the Roman Senator has magnificent pearly white teeth, there's no infant mortality unless the plot requires it, no one ever needs to empty a chamberpot, and horses never take a dump in the street. It falls somewhere between subtle nostalgia and outright hilarity when dealing with ages closer to modernity, like the RoaringTwenties being an age of wild parties and shiny classic cars for ''everyone'' and not just the upper classes, or the [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Stalinist Soviet Union]] being a nice place where people happily work, [[VodkaDrunkenski drink]], have fun and never have to worry. In short, it's {{Disneyfication}} of history.

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Ye Goode Olde Days comes into play when a historical or quasi-historical work makes things much nicer than they would really have been. Usually it stems from only partly Doing The Research: they might get the big stuff right -- authentic plate armour, the right kind of architecture, all that -- but the details of life in the past can be lost. So the farm village has nicely kept gravel paths, and everyone in the medieval village lives in a lovely half-timbered house with two bedrooms and a stone fireplace. The Renaissance maiden never gets mudstains on the train of her beautiful gowns, the Roman Senator has magnificent pearly white teeth, there's no infant mortality unless the plot requires it, no one ever needs to empty a chamberpot, and horses never take a dump in the street. It falls somewhere between subtle nostalgia and outright hilarity when dealing with ages closer to modernity, like the RoaringTwenties being an age of wild parties and shiny classic cars for ''everyone'' and not just the upper classes, or the [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn Stalinist Soviet Union]] being a nice place where people happily work, [[VodkaDrunkenski drink]], have fun and never have to worry. In short, it's {{Disneyfication}} of history.
18th Aug '17 5:35:23 PM eroock
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-->--''[[ComicBook/ArchieComics Life With Archie]]'' #129

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18th Jul '17 10:34:06 PM Fireblood
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* ''Film/AKidInKingArthursCourt'' had medieval England as a pretty nice place. It's moderately clean, and unless you stand under a window while walking down the street, you won't be covered in filth [[note]] (watch out for the wives emptying the chamber pot!) [[/note]]. TheProtagonist notes that his joust helmets smell something awful. Both the princesses are perfectly clean, but then again, ''they're princesses''.

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* ''Film/AKidInKingArthursCourt'' had medieval England as a pretty nice place. It's moderately clean, and unless you stand under a window while walking down the street, you won't be covered in filth [[note]] (watch filth.[[note]]Watch out for the wives emptying the chamber pot!) [[/note]]. pot![[/note]] TheProtagonist notes that his joust helmets smell something awful. Both the princesses are perfectly clean, but then again, ''they're princesses''.


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* ''{{Film/Timeline}}'': Marek has this view of life in the medieval era, saying people's lives had honor and purpose. The actual period shown is pretty brutal though, with little of honor. Nonetheless, he chooses to stay in the end.
18th Jul '17 10:27:01 PM Fireblood
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So said LP Hartley at the start of his novel ''The Go-Between''. Any prospective time travelers should also add the following: "make sure you get your shots before you go -- and ''don't drink the water''. Also, pack your own toilet paper!" The fact is that while we like to think that the past was just like the modern day but with funny hats and folk music, many of the things we take for granted just weren't common -- or even available -- back then.

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"The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there." So said LP Hartley at the start of his novel ''The Go-Between''. Any prospective time travelers should also add the following: "make sure you get your shots before you go -- and ''don't drink the water''. Also, pack your own toilet paper!" The fact is that while we like to think that the past was just like the modern day but with funny hats and folk music, many of the things we take for granted just weren't common -- or even available -- back then.
4th Jul '17 6:35:00 AM Redmess
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** Some historical details were neglected on purpose for health and safety reasons, for example in the Victorian house, the widespread use of lead-based paint and the stove that was in reality prone to exploding were left out.
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