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17th Aug '16 1:06:31 PM TheSinful
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* According to Dumbledore in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11502532/4/Breath-of-the-Inferno Breath of the Inferno]]'', the only reason Harry beat Voldemort was because the latter was severely weakened, utterly deranged, and acting uncharacteristically stupid. Even so, Voldemort proves capable of casting a dozen spells with a single wave of his wand and Harry only barely wins.
27th Jul '16 11:49:43 PM Argon2
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** And the ''other'' Archer [[spoiler: Gilgamesh]], is the most powerful character by ''far'', and could stomp just about anyone, thanks to being [[spoiler: The first and oldest hero in a verse were OlderIsBetter]]. Unfortunately, his ego is so unfathomably massive that he refuses to fight seriously, or even bother to ''fight'' much at all, he just stands around while using his [[spoiler: Gate Of Babylon]] to [[StormOfBlades sword-spam]] things into nonexistence. He dies every route due to underestimating his enemies and getting manhandled because of it.

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** And the ''other'' Archer [[spoiler: Gilgamesh]], is the most powerful character by ''far'', and could stomp just about anyone, thanks to being [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:the first and oldest hero in a verse were 'verse where OlderIsBetter]]. Unfortunately, his ego is so unfathomably massive that he refuses to fight seriously, or even bother to ''fight'' much at all, he just stands around while using his [[spoiler: Gate Of Babylon]] to [[StormOfBlades sword-spam]] things into nonexistence. He dies every route due to underestimating his enemies and getting manhandled because of it.


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* In ''VisualNovel/ZeroTimeDilemma'', [[spoiler:Akane]]- TheChessmaster who's been manipulating everyone for the past two games- is significantly less confident and capable because 1), she walked into a trap (for very good reasons) set by her nemesis, whose powers specifically counter hers, 2) she couldn't predict this Game's potential outcomes and therefore didn't have years beforehand to plan for every eventuality, 3) she can't escape the trap without either abandoning her goal [[spoiler:of preventing the apocalypse]] or getting into a situation just as dangerous, 4) her short-term memory is erased every 90 minutes, and 5) she could die at any moment, solely on the whim of a crazed [[spoiler:seemingly]] OmnicidalManiac who wants to torture her. [[spoiler:The upshot of this is that Akane's expression when she learns that said maniac anticipated her usage of esper abilities to cheat him is hilarious.]]
7th Jul '16 9:20:37 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** In season 4, Korra is once again hit with this. Turns out the reason she's weaker than before is because [[spoiler:she still has a bit of metallic poison in her body. It's been there for ''years''. After she works up the mental fortitude to bend it out herself, she is able to enter the Avatar state again, only to have that derailed by lingering mental trauma]]. By the time she's back to 100%, the villain has powered up to the tune of a taller-than-buildings HumongousMecha.

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** In season 4, Korra is once again hit with this. Turns out the reason she's weaker than before is because [[spoiler:she still has a bit of metallic poison in her body. It's been there for ''years''. After she works up the mental fortitude to bend it out herself, she is able to enter the Avatar state again, only to have that derailed by lingering mental trauma]]. By the time she's back to 100%, the villain has powered up to the tune of a taller-than-buildings HumongousMecha. That said, when the two fight man-to-man again, [[spoiler:it's clear that Korra is the more powerful of the two]].
4th Jul '16 6:29:00 PM merotoker
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** And when Superman fought Muhammad Ali, the aliens behind the LetsYouAndHimFight had made sure it was under red star radiation.

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** And when Superman fought Muhammad Ali, UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli, the aliens behind the LetsYouAndHimFight had made sure it was under red star radiation.



* When Erik Larsen subjected the Comicbook/IncredibleHulk to TheWorfEffect at the hands of the [[TookALevelInBadass new, improved]] Doctor Octopus, PeterDavid, who had been writing Hulk comics at that point, wrote him beating Octopus with two fingers, saying that last time he simply "had a bad day".

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* When Erik Larsen subjected the Comicbook/IncredibleHulk to TheWorfEffect at the hands of the [[TookALevelInBadass new, improved]] Doctor Octopus, PeterDavid, Creator/PeterDavid, who had been writing Hulk comics at that point, wrote him beating Octopus with two fingers, saying that last time he simply "had a bad day".



* ''Film/{{Predators}}'': This happens when [[spoiler: the "Classic" Predator similar to the ones from the old films faces the lead "Berserker" Predator from this movie. The Classic Predator has been tied up for a while and has poorly maintained equipment allowing for leeway when the new predator wins the fight, but even with this, he still puts up a hell of a fight.]]

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* ''Film/{{Predators}}'': This happens when [[spoiler: the "Classic" Predator similar to the ones from the old films faces the lead "Berserker" Predator from this movie. The Classic Predator has been tied up for a while and has poorly maintained equipment allowing for leeway when the new predator wins the fight, but even with this, he still puts up a hell of a fight.]]fight]].



** In college football, a famous recent example would Colt [=McCoy=] at his last Rose Bowl Game. The momentum of the entire game reversed suddenly - all because [=McCoy=] got tackled by a nearly 400-pound man early in the game, taking him out of the game. It wasn't even an especially brutul hit, but the physics somehow left his arm with no sensation whatsoever. He didn't feel any pain and his arm hadn't suffered serious injury, but he couldn't feel the football contacting his palm and fingers and thus couldn't make accurate throws. Truly a bizarre moment in sports as a QB had never before been knocked out of an entire Super Bowl or BCS Title game before, much less on such an unusual injury.

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** In college football, a famous recent example would Colt [=McCoy=] at his last Rose Bowl Game. The momentum of the entire game reversed suddenly - all because [=McCoy=] got tackled by a nearly 400-pound man early in the game, taking him out of the game. It wasn't even an especially brutul brutal hit, but the physics somehow left his arm with no sensation whatsoever. He didn't feel any pain and his arm hadn't suffered serious injury, but he couldn't feel the football contacting his palm and fingers and thus couldn't make accurate throws. Truly a bizarre moment in sports as a QB had never before been knocked out of an entire Super Bowl or BCS Title game before, much less on such an unusual injury.



** During the DuelToTheDeath between [[spoiler:Cairne Bloodhoof and Garrosh Hellscream]] in the ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' novel ''TheShatteringPreludeToCataclysm'', [[spoiler:Cairne]] gets some good hits in on [[spoiler:Garrosh]], but after taking a hit from his opponents weapon, which unbeknownst to either of them, was poisoned, slows down long enough to take a fatal hit to the neck.
** Thrall's fights with Garrosh tend to be this. The first time, Thrall held back to avoid humiliating Garrosh. The second time, Garrosh's dark shaman had twisted the elements around Orgimmar so Thrall couldn't use most of his powers. [[RuleOfThree Finally the third time they fight]], Thrall tries to match Garrosh in pure melee combat. [[spoiler:Once Thrall calls upon the elements, he easily overpowers and kills Garrosh]].

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** During the DuelToTheDeath between [[spoiler:Cairne Bloodhoof and Garrosh Hellscream]] in the ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' novel ''TheShatteringPreludeToCataclysm'', ''Literature/TheShatteringPreludeToCataclysm'', [[spoiler:Cairne]] gets some good hits in on [[spoiler:Garrosh]], but after taking a hit from his opponents weapon, which unbeknownst to either of them, was poisoned, slows down long enough to take a fatal hit to the neck.
** Thrall's fights with Garrosh tend to be this. The first time, Thrall held back to avoid humiliating Garrosh. The second time, Garrosh's dark shaman had twisted the elements around Orgimmar so Thrall couldn't use most of his powers. [[RuleOfThree Finally the third time they fight]], Thrall tries to match Garrosh in pure melee combat. [[spoiler:Once Thrall calls upon the elements, he easily overpowers and kills Garrosh]].Garrosh.]]



* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI'', Sora's party manages to rescue Disney/{{Hercules}} from Cerberus. As the party leaves, Phil is utterly flabbergasted as to how they managed to do it. Hercules then says that he had managed to "soften up" Cerberus a bit before Sora appeared. Later in the game, you can fight Cerberus at his full power.
* In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', Hercules has been fighting Hades' minions non-stop for days or weeks. When he fights [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Auron]], he's so worn down that Auron is able to overpower him and would have killed him if Sora and friends hadn't saved him.

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* ''Franchise/KingdomHearts''
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In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsI'', Sora's party manages to rescue Disney/{{Hercules}} from Cerberus. As the party leaves, Phil is utterly flabbergasted as to how they managed to do it. Hercules then says that he had managed to "soften up" Cerberus a bit before Sora appeared. Later in the game, you can fight Cerberus at his full power.
* ** In ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'', Hercules has been fighting Hades' minions non-stop for days or weeks. When he fights [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Auron]], he's so worn down that Auron is able to overpower him and would have killed him if Sora and friends hadn't saved him.



* Played with in ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' for {{Wii}} with Von-Kaiser. Prior to his first match he's [=KO'd=] by what appears to be a ''kindergarten student'' and mocked by all the kid's friends, making him suffer from a nasty inadequacy complex when facing you for the first time. Unlike the other characters who [[TookALevelInBadAss Take A Level In Bad Ass]], change tactics, or ''cheat'' to up their game for the [[NewGamePlus Title Defense match]], Von Kaiser merely gets so angry that you have the championship belt that he gets over his complex and shows up at full strength to challenge you. [[spoiler:It's played with because, while he's about as difficult as the Major Circuit opponents from before, the "full strength" Von Kaiser is still laughably easy to beat]].

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* Played with in ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' for {{Wii}} UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} with Von-Kaiser. Prior to his first match he's [=KO'd=] by what appears to be a ''kindergarten student'' and mocked by all the kid's friends, making him suffer from a nasty inadequacy complex when facing you for the first time. Unlike the other characters who [[TookALevelInBadAss Take A Level In Bad Ass]], change tactics, or ''cheat'' to up their game for the [[NewGamePlus Title Defense match]], Von Kaiser merely gets so angry that you have the championship belt that he gets over his complex and shows up at full strength to challenge you. [[spoiler:It's played with because, while he's about as difficult as the Major Circuit opponents from before, the "full strength" Von Kaiser is still laughably easy to beat]].beat.]]



** And the ''other'' Archer [[spoiler: Gilgamesh]], is the most powerful character by ''far'', and could stomp just about anyone, thanks to being [[spoiler: The first and oldest hero in a verse were OlderIsBetter]]. Unfortunately, his ego is so unfathomably massive that he refuses to fight seriously, or even bother to ''fight'' much at all, he just stands around while using his [[spoiler: Gate Of Babylon]] to [[StormOfBlades sword-spam]] things into nonexistance. He dies every route due to underestimating his enemies and getting manhandled because of it.

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** And the ''other'' Archer [[spoiler: Gilgamesh]], is the most powerful character by ''far'', and could stomp just about anyone, thanks to being [[spoiler: The first and oldest hero in a verse were OlderIsBetter]]. Unfortunately, his ego is so unfathomably massive that he refuses to fight seriously, or even bother to ''fight'' much at all, he just stands around while using his [[spoiler: Gate Of Babylon]] to [[StormOfBlades sword-spam]] things into nonexistance.nonexistence. He dies every route due to underestimating his enemies and getting manhandled because of it.



** Zuko is similarly handicapped by being unable to use any of his Firebending in his fight-to-a-draw against Jet in Book Two. Doing so would have exposed his identity, which, after an earlier incident in the season where he'd shown his firebending in a fight to defend a town and was then [[WhatTheHellTownspeople immediately thrown out of said town]], caused him to hold back with Jet.

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** Zuko is similarly handicapped by being unable to use any of his Firebending in his fight-to-a-draw against Jet in Book Two. Doing so would have exposed his identity, which, after an earlier incident in the season where he'd shown his firebending in a fight to defend a town and was then [[WhatTheHellTownspeople [[UngratefulTownsfolk immediately thrown out of said town]], caused him to hold back with Jet.



* Happens in the second SeasonFinale ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' when [[spoiler:[[BigBad Queen Chrysalis]] manages to defeat [[PhysicalGod Princess Celestia in a straight up fight]]. Chrysalis had gotten a ''major'' power up [[EmotionEater feeding off of]] [[ThePowerOfLove Shining Armor's love for Princess Cadence]]. Not only does she visibly struggle against Celestia's power, even Chrysalis is outright ''shocked'' she won.]]
** In addition [[spoiler:its been noted said fight took place in a room crowded with the very citizens Celestia was trying to ''protect'', meaning in all likelihood, she may have been holding back so as not to harm them and may have beaten Chrysalis otherwise.]]
** The "Fiendship is Magic" comics confirm that this is the case: [[spoiler:in the past, the two fought once before. Celestia defeated Chrysalis, [[OneManArmy her entire army]], [[ScarsAreForever permenantly scarring their bodies]], and [[SealedEvilInACan leaving them imprisoned in a volcano for hundreds of years.]] ''[[UpToEleven With a single attack]]''. Comparing the army-busting WaveMotionGun spell to the small beam she used again Chrysalis in the show, it's clear Celestia was indeed holding back. The comics are only debatably canon, but ''still''.]]

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* Happens in the second SeasonFinale ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' when [[spoiler:[[BigBad Queen Chrysalis]] manages to defeat [[PhysicalGod Princess Celestia in a straight up fight]]. Chrysalis had gotten a ''major'' power up [[EmotionEater feeding off of]] [[ThePowerOfLove Shining Armor's love for Princess Cadence]]. Not only does she visibly struggle against Celestia's power, even Chrysalis is outright ''shocked'' she won.]]
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** In addition [[spoiler:its been noted said fight took place in a room crowded with the very citizens Celestia was trying to ''protect'', meaning in all likelihood, she may have been holding back so as not to harm them and may have beaten Chrysalis otherwise.]]
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** The "Fiendship is Magic" comics confirm that this is the case: [[spoiler:in the past, the two fought once before. Celestia defeated Chrysalis, [[OneManArmy her entire army]], [[ScarsAreForever permenantly permanently scarring their bodies]], and [[SealedEvilInACan leaving them imprisoned in a volcano for hundreds of years.]] ''[[UpToEleven With a single attack]]''. Comparing the army-busting WaveMotionGun spell to the small beam she used again Chrysalis in the show, it's clear Celestia was indeed holding back. The comics are only debatably canon, but ''still''.]]''still'']].



* During the 2012 US presidential election, President Obama seemed extremely tired during the first presidential debate between himself and his Republican opponent Mitt Romney, who many thought dominated the debate. UsefulNotes/AlGore suggested that it was because of the altitude of Denver, the debate venue.
* At ''ThePrince'', Machiavelli says that Cesar Borgia (a RealLife example of MagnificentBastard) revealed to him that his multiple enemies managed to defeat him only because he was seriously sick when they did it. If not for this, he could have defeated them.

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* During the 2012 US presidential election, President Obama [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama Obama]] seemed extremely tired during the first presidential debate between himself and his Republican opponent Mitt Romney, who many thought dominated the debate. UsefulNotes/AlGore suggested that it was because of the altitude of Denver, the debate venue.
* At ''ThePrince'', ''Literature/ThePrince'', Machiavelli says that Cesar Borgia (a RealLife example of MagnificentBastard) revealed to him that his multiple enemies managed to defeat him only because he was seriously sick when they did it. If not for this, he could have defeated them.
1st Jul '16 4:53:36 PM Anddrix
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** Orochimaru has had to been sick or weak at the time for both [[BaseBreaker Uchiha Itachi]] and [[RevengeBeforeReason Uchiha Sasuke]] to defeat him. When he faced both, for example, his body was ''rejecting'' him both times, and he couldn't kill either of them (needing their bodies for GrandTheftMe). [[spoiler: Its even pointed out later that the only reason why Sasuke beat Orochimaru in the first place is because Sandaime Hokage's Shiki Fujin ''still'' sealed his arms, thus robbing him of his ninjutsu.]]

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** Orochimaru has had to been sick or weak at the time for both [[BaseBreaker Uchiha Itachi]] Itachi and [[RevengeBeforeReason Uchiha Sasuke]] to defeat him. When he faced both, for example, his body was ''rejecting'' him both times, and he couldn't kill either of them (needing their bodies for GrandTheftMe). [[spoiler: Its even pointed out later that the only reason why Sasuke beat Orochimaru in the first place is because Sandaime Hokage's Shiki Fujin ''still'' sealed his arms, thus robbing him of his ninjutsu.]]
22nd Jun '16 5:17:18 PM gophergiggles
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* Played with in ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' for {{Wii}} with Von-Kaiser. Prior to his first match he's [=KO'd=] by what appears to be a ''kindergarten student'' and mocked by all the kid's friends, making him suffer from a nasty inadequacy complex when facing you for the first time. Unlike the other characters who [[TookALevelInBadAss Take A Level In Bad Ass]], change tactics, or ''cheat'' to up their game for the [[NewGamePlus Title Defense match]], Von Kaiser merely gets so angry that you have the championship belt that he gets over his complex and shows up at full strength to challenge you. [[spoiler:It's played with because, while he's about as difficult as the Major Circuit opponents from before, the "full strength" Von Kaiser is still laughably easy to beat]].



** The "Fiendship is Magic" comics confirm that this is the case: [[spoiler:in the past, the two fought once before. Celestia defeated Chrysalis, [[OneManArmy her entire army]], [[ScarsAreForever permenantly scarring their bodies]], and [[SealedEvilInACan leaving them imprisoned in a volcano for hundreds of years.]] ''[[UpToEleven With a single attack]]''. Comparing the army-busting WaveMotionGun spell to the small beam she used again Chrysalis in the show, it's clear Celestia was indeed holding back.]]

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** The "Fiendship is Magic" comics confirm that this is the case: [[spoiler:in the past, the two fought once before. Celestia defeated Chrysalis, [[OneManArmy her entire army]], [[ScarsAreForever permenantly scarring their bodies]], and [[SealedEvilInACan leaving them imprisoned in a volcano for hundreds of years.]] ''[[UpToEleven With a single attack]]''. Comparing the army-busting WaveMotionGun spell to the small beam she used again Chrysalis in the show, it's clear Celestia was indeed holding back. The comics are only debatably canon, but ''still''.]]
5th Jun '16 5:47:04 PM Reavenator
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** When Guts first encountered the holy iron chain knights, he was heavily injured and exhausted from his fight with Rosine. As such, he was weak enough for them to capture. When he encounters them again, some of them remark that his performance was nothing close to the first time.

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** When Guts first encountered the holy iron chain knights, he was heavily injured and exhausted from his fight with Rosine. As such, he was weak enough for them to capture. When he encounters them again, some of them remark that his combat performance was nothing close to leagues above the first time.
1st Jun '16 2:36:58 PM Reavenator
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** When Guts first encountered the holy iron chain knights, he was heavily injured and exhausted from his fight with Rosine. As such, he was weak enough for them to capture. When he encounters them again, many of them remark that his performance was nothing close to the first time.

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** When Guts first encountered the holy iron chain knights, he was heavily injured and exhausted from his fight with Rosine. As such, he was weak enough for them to capture. When he encounters them again, many some of them remark that his performance was nothing close to the first time.
1st Jun '16 2:34:57 PM Reavenator
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