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18th Aug '17 4:33:05 PM Fireblood
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* In Stephen R. Donaldson's ''The Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant'', there's an interesting variation. While there is a "white magic" in this setting, it's not the magic of goodness (the good magic is generally blue or gold in color). White magic in this setting is the wild magic, the primal energy which holds the world together, and which consequently is the only thing strong enough to tear the world apart.

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* In Stephen R. Donaldson's ''The Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant'', ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfThomasCovenant'', there's an interesting variation. While there is a "white magic" in this setting, it's not the magic of goodness (the good magic is generally blue or gold in color). White magic in this setting is the wild magic, the primal energy which holds the world together, and which consequently is the only thing strong enough to tear the world apart.
18th Aug '17 4:27:41 PM Fireblood
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The other most common Restriction method is requiring the practictioner to abide by a [[KarmaMeter specific code]] of [[TheFettered conduct]] that stipulates when White Magic should not be used, when it may be used, and when it ''must'' be used. This method is most often seen when the brand of White Magic involved features significant firepower. This code may mean contractual [[TechnicalPacifist technical pacificism]], or at least 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' (which is distinct from ThouShaltNotKill). Perhaps [[ActualPacifist a priest can never take a life at all]], or perhaps, like a medical doctor under the Hippocratic Oath, he simply must never use his powers to cause harm. Perhaps a {{paladin}}, like a police officer issued a firearm, is allowed (or even obligated) to use deadly force in certain situations in order to save innocent lives, but may [[BroughtDownToNormal have that power revoked]] if it's misused.

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The other most common Restriction method is requiring the practictioner to abide by a [[KarmaMeter specific code]] of [[TheFettered conduct]] that stipulates when White Magic should not be used, when it may be used, and when it ''must'' be used. This method is most often seen when the brand of White Magic involved features significant firepower. This code may mean contractual [[TechnicalPacifist technical pacificism]], pacifism]], or at least 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' (which is distinct from ThouShaltNotKill). Perhaps [[ActualPacifist a priest can never take a life at all]], or perhaps, like a medical doctor under the Hippocratic Oath, he simply must never use his powers to cause harm. Perhaps a {{paladin}}, like a police officer issued a firearm, is allowed (or even obligated) to use deadly force in certain situations in order to save innocent lives, but may [[BroughtDownToNormal have that power revoked]] if it's misused.
1st Aug '17 11:46:21 AM DaibhidC
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* Healing spells in ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' are called white magic, but the third edition ''Magic'' sourcebook notes that, because of the way the magic system works, the understanding of life-force and physiology they provide are a prerequisite for necromancy, and the deeper understanding of restoring life provided by the necromantic spells is required for Ressurection, as a result of which many "white mages" refuse to learn it.

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* Healing spells in ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' are called white magic, but the third edition ''Magic'' sourcebook notes that, because of the way the magic system works, the understanding of life-force and physiology they provide are a prerequisite for necromancy, and the deeper understanding of restoring life provided by the necromantic spells is required for Ressurection, Resurrection, as a result of which many "white mages" healers refuse to learn it.
1st Aug '17 11:41:35 AM DaibhidC
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* Healing spells in ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' are called white magic, but the third edition ''Magic'' sourcebook notes that, because of the way the magic system works, the understanding of life-force and physiology they provide are a prerequisite for necromancy, and the deeper understanding of restoring life provided by the necromantic spells is required for Ressurection, as a result of which many "white mages" refuse to learn it.
24th Jun '17 9:52:10 AM Theriocephalus
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* Zig-zagged heavily in 'VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}} and 'VideoGame/{{Bayonetta2}}. The Lumen Sages use light magic granted to them by the [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels of paradiso,]] and they use their power to maintain balance between [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil light and darkness]] alongside their counterparts the Umbra Witches. That being said, the angels whom the Sages serve and draw their power from are [[LightIsNotGood evil]] [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] who want to wipe out humanity. The sages themselves are [[LightIsGood good]], but the angels are known for using them as pawns in their plans.
** The same also applies to the Witches who use BlackMagic to maintain the balance of light and dark. But like the sages, their [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demonic masters]] are also eldritch abominations who want to wipe out humanity, and use the witches as pawns.

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* Zig-zagged heavily in 'VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}} ''VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}}'' and 'VideoGame/{{Bayonetta2}}. ''VideoGame/Bayonetta2''. The Lumen Sages use light magic granted to them by the [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels of paradiso,]] paradiso]], and they use their power to maintain balance between [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil light and darkness]] alongside their counterparts the Umbra Witches. That being said, the angels whom the Sages serve and draw their power from are [[LightIsNotGood evil]] [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] who want to wipe out humanity. The sages themselves are [[LightIsGood good]], but the angels are known for using them as pawns in their plans. \n** The same also applies to the Witches Witches, who use BlackMagic to maintain the balance of light and dark. But like the sages, their [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demonic masters]] are also eldritch abominations who want to wipe out humanity, and use the witches as pawns.
28th May '17 12:42:51 PM godzillavkk
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* Zig-zagged heavily in 'VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}} and 'VideoGame/{{Bayonetta2}}. The Lumen Sages use light magic granted to them by the [[OurAngelsAreDifferent angels of paradiso,]] and they use their power to maintain balance between [[BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil light and darkness]] alongside their counterparts the Umbra Witches. That being said, the angels whom the Sages serve and draw their power from are [[LightIsNotGood evil]] [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]] who want to wipe out humanity. The sages themselves are [[LightIsGood good]], but the angels are known for using them as pawns in their plans.
** The same also applies to the Witches who use BlackMagic to maintain the balance of light and dark. But like the sages, their [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demonic masters]] are also eldritch abominations who want to wipe out humanity, and use the witches as pawns.
13th Apr '17 8:28:58 PM godzillavkk
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Sometimes despite being well-intentioned, GoodIsImpotent, and White Magic falls under WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway. Other times, GodIsGood and White Magic falls under HeartIsAnAwesomePower. Also, though White Magic is good in nature, often it should be used with caution, because if use improperly, [[HolyIsNotSafe it can be quite dangerous]].

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Sometimes despite being well-intentioned, GoodIsImpotent, and White Magic falls under WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway. Other times, GodIsGood and White Magic falls under HeartIsAnAwesomePower. Also, though White Magic is good in nature, often it should be used with caution, because if use used improperly, [[HolyIsNotSafe it can be quite dangerous]].
13th Apr '17 8:28:18 PM godzillavkk
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Sometimes despite being well-intentioned, GoodIsImpotent, and White Magic falls under WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway. Other times, GodIsGood and White Magic falls under HeartIsAnAwesomePower.

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Sometimes despite being well-intentioned, GoodIsImpotent, and White Magic falls under WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway. Other times, GodIsGood and White Magic falls under HeartIsAnAwesomePower. \n Also, though White Magic is good in nature, often it should be used with caution, because if use improperly, [[HolyIsNotSafe it can be quite dangerous]].
2nd Apr '17 12:16:52 PM DustSnitch
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2nd Apr '17 12:16:51 PM DustSnitch
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** Jesus also promises that his followers will wield great powers than he does, and declares "Do ye not know that ye are gods?" - pretty awesome statement from the founder of a monotheistic religion. [[note]]{{Jesus}} was speaking using Old Testament definitions and that the in greek translation of the old testament word, calling someone a god is the equivalent to calling them 'a glorious' person.[[/note]]

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** Jesus also promises that his followers will wield great powers than he does, and declares "Do ye not know that ye are gods?" - pretty awesome statement from the founder of a monotheistic religion. [[note]]{{Jesus}} [[note]]UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} was speaking using Old Testament definitions and that the in greek translation of the old testament word, calling someone a god is the equivalent to calling them 'a glorious' person.[[/note]]
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