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25th Nov '16 7:29:33 PM FordPrefect
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*** They're still finding unexploded shells from the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. These shells are a hundred and fifty years old, and have been known to explode at random around some battlefields. Some areas in and around the battlefields remain closed off even today for this reason.
** It's not just war zones, former artillery training areas usually leave some projectiles behind. Fortunately, since they are training grounds the rounds are usually non-explosive. [[note]]Do ''not'' assume that the round is non-explosive, though. Assuming it is likely to get you, or anyone with you, killed. When stumbling across one, the only thing you should assume is that it is explosive and hasn't exploded ''yet'', note the location, and get out of there to call it in for the professionals to get rid of.[[/note]]

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*** They're still finding unexploded shells from the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. These shells are a hundred and fifty years old, and have been known to explode at random around some battlefields. Some areas in and around the battlefields remain closed off even today for this reason.
** It's not just war zones, former artillery training areas usually leave some projectiles behind. Fortunately, since they are training grounds grounds, the rounds are usually non-explosive. [[note]]Do ''not'' assume that the round is non-explosive, though. Assuming it is likely to get you, or anyone with you, killed. When stumbling across one, the only thing you should assume is that it is explosive and hasn't exploded ''yet'', note the location, and get out of there to call it in for the professionals to get rid of.[[/note]]



* For more Real Life examples: This usually only done if the bullet is pressing and/or pierced something vital. If the bullet is resting right on a nerve or major blood vessel, they'll pull it out because it's better that it happens in the OR rather than days, weeks, months, or years later, as it could shift.
* Averted notably in one World War 2 officer. Surgeons were looking at a bullet that somehow had lodged itself in the knee of an Allied Officer with no problems. The Doctor advised against pulling it out as even the smallest probe he had would be too big to not damage something important.

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* For more Real Life examples: This is usually only done if the bullet is pressing and/or pierced something vital. If the bullet is resting right on a nerve or major blood vessel, they'll pull it out because it's better that it happens in the OR rather than days, weeks, months, or years later, as it could shift.
* Averted notably in one World War 2 officer. Surgeons were looking at a bullet that somehow had lodged itself in the knee of an Allied Officer with no problems. The Doctor advised against pulling it out out, as even the smallest probe he had would be too big to not damage something important.
25th Nov '16 7:28:17 PM FordPrefect
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** Most researchers agree that when UsefulNotes/JamesGarfield was shot, probing for the bullet (with dirty instruments, and ''not even coming close to finding it'') did more to kill him than the bullet itself. Not helping matters was that the doctors were afraid that the bullet punctured his intestines and decided to administer food and whiskey.... [[AssShove Rectally.]] James Garfield lost 100 pounds from starvation by the time he died. The assassin tried to use this in his defense at trial, but was convicted and hanged anyway.

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** Most researchers agree that when UsefulNotes/JamesGarfield was shot, probing for the bullet (with dirty instruments, and ''not even coming close to finding it'') did more to kill him than the bullet itself. Not helping matters was that the doctors were afraid that the bullet punctured his intestines and decided to administer food and whiskey.... [[AssShove Rectally.rectally.]] James Garfield lost 100 pounds from starvation by the time he died. The assassin tried to use this in his defense at trial, but was convicted and hanged anyway.



** UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan ended up being a rather unusual case where politics ended up playing a part. After he was shot through the armpit, doctors decided to probe for the bullet since they did not have the equipment to find out what it had damaged. After fifteen minutes of not finding it, the doctor doing the probing wanted to stop, since Reagan was a very old man and it was unlikely his body could handle too much. They decided to continue, partly out of fear that the media would claim incompetent doctors had left a bullet inside the President. This later turned out to be a good decision, because the shot was an ''explosive'' one that had failed to detonate yet. That's one of the few situations when we really do Have To Get The Bullet Out.
** UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson had at least one bullet in him for 19 years that surgeons didn't remove because they were afraid of causing more damage. Perhaps not the only one as he was described as having so many bullets in him he rattled.

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** UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan ended up being a rather unusual case where politics ended up playing a part. After he was shot through the armpit, doctors decided to probe for the bullet since they did not have the equipment to find out what it had damaged. After fifteen minutes of not finding it, the doctor doing the probing wanted to stop, since Reagan was a very old man and it was unlikely his body could handle too much. They decided to continue, partly out of fear that the media would claim incompetent doctors had left a bullet inside the President. This later turned out to be a good decision, because the shot bullet was an ''explosive'' one that had thus far failed to detonate yet.detonate. That's one of the few situations when we really do Have To Get The Bullet Out.
** UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson had at least one bullet in him for 19 years that surgeons didn't remove because they were afraid of causing more damage. Perhaps not the only one one, as he was described as having so many bullets in him that he rattled.



* When Wild Bill Hickok was murdered, the bullet passed through his head and lodged in the wrist of another man at the table. The man left the bullet there the rest of his life, and apparently reveled in the fact that had the bullet that killed Wild Bill in his arm.

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* When Wild Bill Hickok was murdered, the bullet passed through his head and lodged in the wrist of another man at the table. The man left the bullet there the rest of his life, and apparently reveled in the fact that he had the bullet that killed Wild Bill in his arm.



* There is also a ''geographical'' version of this trope: live ordnance from UsefulNotes/WorldWarI still littering the fields of France. Because quality-control standards were just so poor at the time (it's estimated that ''one third'' of all artillery shells fired by British guns during the Franco-British Somme Offensive of 1916 were defective), Farmers have had a century's experience of plowing up bullets and shells by now. More tragically, former war zones in several third-world countries are full of land mines and no one has the money or authority to remove them. Occasionally an unlucky villager will step on one and get blown up.

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* There is also a ''geographical'' version of this trope: live ordnance from UsefulNotes/WorldWarI still littering the fields of France. Because quality-control standards were just so poor at the time (it's estimated that ''one third'' of all artillery shells fired by British guns during the Franco-British Somme Offensive of 1916 were defective), Farmers farmers have had a century's experience of plowing up bullets and shells by now. More tragically, former war zones in several third-world countries are full of land mines and no one has the money or authority to remove them. Occasionally an unlucky villager will step on one and get blown up.
25th Nov '16 7:25:02 PM FordPrefect
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Depending on the time period, however, this can be a JustifiedTrope - historically, a musket ball have been made out of lead and would be toxic if left inside. It would also have been extracted as part of recovering any part of the wearer's clothing that it had tracked in with it - bits of cloth in wounds were a good source of infection, since most soldiers (and civilians, for that matter) had just one set of clothes which they wore constantly without washing them,[[note]] A) because you'd wash your under-pants and under-shirt, if you had any, instead of the external clothes and B) because most dyes would dissolve in water and/or soap, which was bad news if you wanted to look good/were relying on the colour of your clothes to help other soldiers identify which country you were fighting for[[/note]] and because musket balls travel far slower and have less penetrating power, bits of clothing could often be dragged into the wound.

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Depending on the time period, however, this can be a JustifiedTrope - historically, a musket ball have been was made out of lead and would be toxic if left inside. It would also have been extracted as part of recovering any part of the wearer's clothing that it had tracked in with it - bits of cloth in wounds were a good source of infection, since most soldiers (and civilians, for that matter) had just one set of clothes which they wore constantly without washing them,[[note]] A) because you'd wash your under-pants and under-shirt, if you had any, instead of the external clothes and B) because most dyes would dissolve in water and/or soap, which was bad news if you wanted to look good/were relying on the colour of your clothes to help other soldiers identify which country you were fighting for[[/note]] and because musket balls travel far slower and have less penetrating power, bits of clothing could often be dragged into the wound.
21st Nov '16 11:53:08 PM Lullaby22
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* A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example in the ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} episode "The Darkest Place": Mon-El has been shot with a basic lead bullet, but he's lethally allergic to lead, so the bullet has to be removed before it kills him.

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* A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example in the ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} 2015}}'' episode "The Darkest Place": Mon-El has been shot with a basic lead bullet, but he's lethally allergic to lead, so the bullet has to be removed before it kills him.
21st Nov '16 11:51:39 PM Lullaby22
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* A [[JustifiedTrope justified]] example in the ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}} episode "The Darkest Place": Mon-El has been shot with a basic lead bullet, but he's lethally allergic to lead, so the bullet has to be removed before it kills him.
14th Nov '16 2:59:40 AM jgkitarel
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** It's not just war zones, former artillery training areas usually leave some projectiles behind. Fortunately, since they are training grounds the rounds are usually non-explosive.

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*** They're still finding unexploded shells from the UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar. These shells are a hundred and fifty years old, and have been known to explode at random around some battlefields. Some areas in and around the battlefields remain closed off even today for this reason.
** It's not just war zones, former artillery training areas usually leave some projectiles behind. Fortunately, since they are training grounds the rounds are usually non-explosive. [[note]]Do ''not'' assume that the round is non-explosive, though. Assuming it is likely to get you, or anyone with you, killed. When stumbling across one, the only thing you should assume is that it is explosive and hasn't exploded ''yet'', note the location, and get out of there to call it in for the professionals to get rid of.[[/note]]
9th Nov '16 6:28:02 AM Xlsfd
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** And played straight with his daughter, Franziska von Karma, who gets shot in the shoulder during the last case of ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyJusticeForAll'' and is rushed to the hospital immediately.
25th Oct '16 11:33:32 PM dmcreif
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* Defied in ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' when Matt is receiving advice on how to treat a gunshot victim over the phone from Claire. He assumes he needs to remove the bullet, but Claire bluntly informs him that having an untrained medic (and a ''blind'' one at that) rooting around will cause far more damage than just leaving the bullet in.

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* Marvel's Netflix franchises:
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Defied in ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' when 2015}}''. After Vladimir gets shot by Wilson Fisk's corrupt cops, Matt Murdock is left receiving advice from Claire Temple on how to treat a gunshot victim over cauterize the phone from Claire. wound He assumes he needs to remove the bullet, but Claire bluntly informs him that having an untrained medic (and a ''blind'' one at that) rooting around will cause far more damage than just leaving the bullet in.in.
** That said, Claire ''does'' play it straight in ''Series/LukeCage2016'' by performing it on Rafael Scarfe after he's shot while attempting to shake down Cornell Stokes.
20th Oct '16 8:29:50 AM iowaforever
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*''FanFic/TheManWithNoName''; The Doctor gets shot by a mook and has Simon dig the bullet out of his shoulder. This is justified as Time Lord biology reacts much more severely to foreign objects inside the body, so leaving it in would be more dangerous than taking it out.
28th Aug '16 5:12:26 PM WillKeaton
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* Averted in ''Series/{{House}}'' when a police officer has fragments of a bullet lodged in his skull. The team desperately wants to do an MRI, and House shoots a corpse to prove that an MRI's magnetism makes it impossible. The bullet gets violently ripped out of the corpses skull and breaks the MRI.

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* Averted in ''Series/{{House}}'' when a police officer has fragments of a bullet lodged in his skull. The team desperately wants to do an MRI, and House shoots a corpse in the head to prove that test if the metal bullet will interfere with an MRI's magnetism makes it impossible.MRI. The bullet gets violently ripped out of the corpses skull and breaks the MRI.
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