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24th May '16 12:49:00 AM BigKlingy
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** PlayedForLaughs with the Bandit Twins, a RecurringElement in the series: two {{Gonk}} bandit brothers who are always a little ''too'' fond of eachother.
22nd May '16 7:24:00 AM Eievie
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You have him [[ChaoticEvil break]] ([[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny sexual]]) [[LawfulStupid taboos]] and engage in certain "taboo" or borderline activities which are frowned upon by many cultures. Sure, EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas, but some bad men love their mamas a ''little'' too much, and this can be meant to add to the audience's view of the villain as a disgusting, depraved individual who commits evil and [[UnfortunateImplications 'unnatural']] acts [[WhamLine on a]] [[BigHam daily basis]].

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You have him [[ChaoticEvil break]] ([[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny sexual]]) [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny sexual]] [[LawfulStupid taboos]] and engage in certain "taboo" or borderline activities which are frowned upon by many cultures. Sure, EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas, but some bad men love their mamas a ''little'' too much, and this can be meant to add to the audience's view of the villain as a disgusting, depraved individual who commits evil and [[UnfortunateImplications 'unnatural']] "unnatural"]] acts [[WhamLine on a]] [[BigHam daily basis]].



* Pictured above: [[CreepyTwins Hansel and Gretel]] from ''Manga/BlackLagoon''. It's with each other, and they're kids, but this is one of the ''least'' ''[[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour disturbing things]]'' about them.

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* Pictured above: [[CreepyTwins Hansel and Gretel]] from ''Manga/BlackLagoon''. It's with each other, and they're kids, but this is one of the ''least'' ''[[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour ''least [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour disturbing things]]'' about them.



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* In ''[[http://percyjacksonfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Stand_In_The_Rain Stand In The Rain,]]'' a ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' fanfiction, [[spoiler:the main character is raped by her mentally disturbed half-brother]]. FromBadToWorse--[[spoiler:she gets [[ChildByRape pregnant]]. With her own brother's baby]].

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* In ''[[http://percyjacksonfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Stand_In_The_Rain Stand In The Rain,]]'' a ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' fanfiction, [[spoiler:the main character is raped by her mentally disturbed half-brother]]. FromBadToWorse--[[spoiler:she gets [[ChildByRape pregnant]]. With her own brother's baby]].baby.]]



* Rather a lot of ''Literature/HarryPotter'' fanfiction, and for good reason. As noted below, the purebloods are absolutely obsessed with keeping their lineage "pure", untainted by {{Muggle}} blood. There's also not that ''many'' of them, so sooner or later they're going to have to resort to [[KissingCousins first cousins]], or [[BrotherSisterIncest worse.]] And some of Voldemort's followers are easily bugfuck nuts enough that they might actually be okay with this!

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* Rather a lot of ''Literature/HarryPotter'' fanfiction, and for good reason. As noted below, the purebloods are absolutely obsessed with keeping their lineage "pure", untainted by {{Muggle}} blood. There's also not that ''many'' of them, so sooner or later they're going to have to resort to [[KissingCousins first cousins]], or [[BrotherSisterIncest worse.]] worse]]. And some of Voldemort's followers are easily bugfuck nuts enough that they might actually be okay with this!
6th May '16 10:36:00 AM aye_amber
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* The Duet, [[{{Twincest}} twin rulers]] of the Seven Kingdoms in Morgan Llywelyn and Michael Scott's ''Literature/{{Arcana}}'' series.

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* The Duet, [[{{Twincest}} twin rulers]] of the Seven Kingdoms in Morgan Llywelyn and Michael Scott's ''Literature/{{Arcana}}'' ''Arcana'' series.
6th May '16 10:35:37 AM aye_amber
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* The Duet, [[{{Twincest}} twin rulers]] of the Seven Kingdoms in Morgan Llywelyn and Michael Scott's ''{{Arcana}}'' series.

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* The Duet, [[{{Twincest}} twin rulers]] of the Seven Kingdoms in Morgan Llywelyn and Michael Scott's ''{{Arcana}}'' ''Literature/{{Arcana}}'' series.
1st May '16 12:23:11 AM MsChibi
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Contrast SurpriseIncest for when the people involved may or may not know they are related, although these kinds of villains usually don't care. Can cross over with FreudianExcuse if it's implied to be rooted in child abuse.

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Contrast SurpriseIncest for when the people involved may or may not know they are related, although these kinds of villains usually don't care. Can cross over with FreudianExcuse if it's implied to be rooted in child abuse.
abuse. May be part of a RapeAsBackstory scenario, either for the villain him/herself, or whichever relative(s) was/were involved.
21st Apr '16 11:38:11 AM narm00
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* Baron Mordo, archenemy of Comicbook/DoctorStrange, knowingly had a sexual relationship with his his Romani half-niece (she was unaware of the relationship) which ultimately resulted in a daughter. Just to make it worse, Mordo seduced her to steal the Book of Cagliostro, a book of spells, and then abandoned her.

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* Baron Mordo, archenemy of Comicbook/DoctorStrange, knowingly had a sexual relationship with his his Romani half-niece (she was unaware of the relationship) which ultimately resulted in a daughter. Just to make it worse, Mordo seduced her to steal the Book of Cagliostro, a book of spells, and then abandoned her.



* In some versions of the Arthurian legends Mordred was the son of King Arthur and his half-sister Morgana (swept under the rug in the musical ''Theatre/{{Camelot}}'' but dramatized in the movie ''Film/{{Excalibur}}''). However, in an inversion of the usual applications of this trope ''she'' seduced him (using a disguise spell) as part of her EvilPlan to avenge his father using a similar to have sex with her mother after murdering her father.

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* In some versions of the Arthurian legends Mordred was the son of King Arthur Myth/KingArthur and his half-sister Morgana (swept under the rug in the musical ''Theatre/{{Camelot}}'' but dramatized in the movie ''Film/{{Excalibur}}''). However, in an inversion of the usual applications of this trope ''she'' seduced him (using a disguise spell) as part of her EvilPlan to avenge his father using a similar to have sex with her mother after murdering her father.



* Common in the AlexDelaware novels by JonathanKellerman.

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* Common in the AlexDelaware Literature/AlexDelaware novels by JonathanKellerman.Creator/JonathanKellerman.



* Matthew Lewis both plays it straight and subverts it in ''Literature/TheMonk''. Played straight when the title character, Ambrosio, driven by his lust for the innocent Antonia [[spoiler: tries and fails to seduce her [[MoralEventHorizon then he rapes and kills her]]. The Devil was after his soul.]] Subverted when he learns [[spoiler: to his horror that Antonia was his ''long lost [[BrotherSisterIncest younger sister]].'' It's too late by that point because the Devil had convinced Ambrosio to sell his soul to him in order to escape punishment for Antonia's rape and murder.]]
* Creator/RobinMcKinley's ''Literature/{{Deerskin}}'' is built on this trope. When his wife dies, he promises to only marry someone as beautiful as she. Should have included a "kin excluded" clause. The rest is nothing short of mortifying.

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* Matthew Lewis both plays it straight and subverts it in ''Literature/TheMonk''. Played straight when the title character, Ambrosio, driven by his lust for the innocent Antonia [[spoiler: tries and fails to seduce her [[MoralEventHorizon then he rapes and kills her]]. The Devil was after his soul.]] Subverted when he learns [[spoiler: to his horror that Antonia was his ''long lost [[BrotherSisterIncest younger sister]].'' It's too late by that point because the Devil had convinced Ambrosio to sell his soul to him in order to escape punishment for Antonia's rape and murder.]]
* Creator/RobinMcKinley's ''Literature/{{Deerskin}}'' is built on this trope. trope, being based on the classic fairy tale "Donkeyskin". When his the king's wife dies, he promises to only marry someone as beautiful as she. Should have included a "kin excluded" clause. The rest is nothing short of mortifying.



* Added to William and Regan Hamleigh in the miniseries adaptation of ''ThePillarsOfTheEarth'', because apparently they weren't villainous enough already.

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* Added to William and Regan Hamleigh in the miniseries adaptation of ''ThePillarsOfTheEarth'', ''Series/ThePillarsOfTheEarth'', because apparently they weren't villainous enough already.



* ''VisualNovel/KaraNoShoujo.'' The overall attitude isn't that the incest is inherently wrong (though there is no sexual tension with the protagonists little sister) but that only the mentally unstable would do such a thing.



*** For the above note: that marriage and the one in Hamlet, though politically viable were considered morally wrong.

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*** For the above note: that marriage and the one in Hamlet, though politically viable viable, were considered morally wrong.



* ''VisualNovel/KaraNoShoujo.'' The overall attitude isn't that the incest is inherently wrong (though there is no sexual tension with the protagonist's little sister) but that only the mentally unstable would do such a thing.



* In ''Webcomic/FeyWinds'', two members of [[BigBad Sigurd's]] Minionz, Hansel and Gretel apply.

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* In ''Webcomic/FeyWinds'', two members of [[BigBad Sigurd's]] Minionz, Hansel and Gretel Gretel, apply.
20th Apr '16 10:04:48 PM Pichu-kun
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* Jason and Cheryl from ''ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie'' are involved in {{twincest}}. It's implied to not be 100% consensual on Cheryl's side. As a child Jason was very clingy towards Cheryl to the point of [[spoiler:killing her puppy in jealousy]] and as a teenager he is very overprotective of her and is very jealous.

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* Jason and Cheryl from ''ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie'' are involved in {{twincest}}. It's implied to not be 100% consensual on Cheryl's side. As a child Jason was very clingy towards Cheryl to the point of [[spoiler:killing her puppy in jealousy]] and as a teenager he is very overprotective of her and is gets jealous very jealous.easily.



* Used in the ''Disney/TheLionKing'' fanfic, ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876945/1/Nala-My-Father-s-Madness Nala: My Father's Madness]]''. After [[spoiler:Sarafina's death]] Scar tries to seduce Nala due to the fact Zira hasn't given him a suitable enough heir (Nuka is sickly). Nala refuses. When it's revealed that Scar is her father, the lioness' are disgusted when Zira claims Scar tried to make his own daughter his queen. Scar tries to claim that he [[ThroughlyMistakenIdentity mistook Nala]] for her mother [[spoiler:in his grief]] due to their StrongFamilyResemblance, however no one believes him.

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* Used in the ''Disney/TheLionKing'' fanfic, ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876945/1/Nala-My-Father-s-Madness Nala: My Father's Madness]]''. After [[spoiler:Sarafina's death]] Scar tries to seduce Nala due to the fact Zira hasn't given him a suitable enough heir (Nuka is sickly). Nala refuses. When it's revealed that Scar is her father, the lioness' are disgusted when Zira claims Scar tried to make his own daughter his queen. Scar tries to claim that he [[ThroughlyMistakenIdentity [[ThoroughlyMistakenIdentity mistook Nala]] for her mother [[spoiler:in his grief]] due to their StrongFamilyResemblance, however no one believes him.
20th Apr '16 10:01:29 PM Pichu-kun
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* Marube from ''Manga/{{Yuureitou}}'' molests his daughter Satoko and is incredibly overprotective of her. He said when she turned twenty he planned on taking her virginity though, [[spoiler:after learning it's unlikely he's her [[NotBloodRelated biological father]]]], she ran away.

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* Marube from ''Manga/{{Yuureitou}}'' molests his daughter Satoko and is incredibly overprotective of her. He said when she turned twenty he planned on taking her virginity though, virginity, though [[spoiler:after learning it's unlikely he's her [[NotBloodRelated biological father]]]], she ran away.away. Later he tries to have sex with [[spoiler:Tetsuo]], his biological son.



* Jason and Cheryl from ''ComicBook/AfterlifeWithArchie'' are involved in {{twincest}}. It's implied to not be 100% consensual on Cheryl's side. As a child Jason was very clingy towards Cheryl to the point of [[spoiler:killing her puppy in jealousy]] and as a teenager he is very overprotective of her and is very jealous.



* In ''[[http://percyjacksonfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Stand_In_The_Rain Stand In The Rain,]]'' a ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' fanfiction, [[spoiler:the main character is raped by her mentally disturbed half-brother]].
** FromBadToWorse--[[spoiler:she gets [[ChildByRape pregnant]]. With her own brother's baby]].
** Pass the BrainBleach, please!

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* In ''[[http://percyjacksonfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Stand_In_The_Rain Stand In The Rain,]]'' a ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' fanfiction, [[spoiler:the main character is raped by her mentally disturbed half-brother]].
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half-brother]]. FromBadToWorse--[[spoiler:she gets [[ChildByRape pregnant]]. With her own brother's baby]].
** Pass the BrainBleach, please!
baby]].



* Used in the ''Disney/TheLionKing'' fanfic, ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876945/1/Nala-My-Father-s-Madness Nala: My Father's Madness]]''. After [[spoiler:Sarafina's death]] Scar tries to seduce Nala due to the fact Zira hasn't given him a suitable enough heir (Nuka is sickly). Nala refuses. When it's revealed that Scar is her father, the lioness' are disgusted when Zira claims Scar tried to make his own daughter his queen. Scar tries to claim that he [[ThroughlyMistakenIdentity mistook Nala]] for her mother [[spoiler:in his grief]] due to their StrongFamilyResemblance, however no one believes him.
* In the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' parody series ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'', [[spoiler: VillainProtagonist Twilight Sparkle]] cements her place as the BigBad of the series by sabotaging her brother's wedding, imprisoning his fiancee in a cave and leaving her to die, and [[spoiler: marrying her brother herself.]] She tries to justify her crush [[spoiler: and marriage]] to her brother by saying they are NotBloodSiblings. It's still pretty creepy [[EvenEvilHasStandards even according to Fluttershy]]. And before anyone asks, by all appearances her brother has been brainwashed into going along with it.



* Antiochus and his (unnamed) daughter in ''[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Pericles]]''. [[VillainBall For some reason]], her EngagementChallenge is a riddle whose answer is "Antiochus and his daughter are committing incest." They receive a KarmicDeath when Apollo blows them up.
** Not a conventional Engagement Challenge, though--they're usually honoured even when they're meant to be impossible, but Antiochus hasn't the slightest intention of honouring this one. The terms of the challenge mean that getting it wrong equals death, but it's made very clear that, for the sake of the king's own safety, getting it right ''also'' equals death.
* Shakespeare's ''Theatre/RichardIII'' plans to secure himself on the throne by marrying his niece (the daughter of Richard's brother, King Edward IV). In the play, he has his wife killed so that he can do so, although in history she seems to have died of natural causes.
** Also in actual history, he was planning to marry that niece off to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_I_of_Portugal a distant (literally) cousin]].

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* Antiochus and his (unnamed) daughter in ''[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Pericles]]''. [[VillainBall For some reason]], her EngagementChallenge is a riddle whose answer is "Antiochus and his daughter are committing incest." They receive a KarmicDeath when Apollo blows them up.
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up. Not a conventional Engagement Challenge, though--they're usually honoured even when they're meant to be impossible, but Antiochus hasn't the slightest intention of honouring this one. The terms of the challenge mean that getting it wrong equals death, but it's made very clear that, for the sake of the king's own safety, getting it right ''also'' equals death.
* Shakespeare's ''Theatre/RichardIII'' plans to secure himself on the throne by marrying his niece (the daughter of Richard's brother, King Edward IV). In the play, he has his wife killed so that he can do so, although in history she seems to have died of natural causes.
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causes. Also in actual history, he was planning to marry that niece off to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_I_of_Portugal a distant (literally) cousin]].



* * It is very implied between Weiss and Nero from ''DirgeOfCerberus''. And at the ending[[spoiler: Nero merges with Weiss to free him from Hojo, making them become one.]]

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* * It is very implied between Weiss and Nero from ''DirgeOfCerberus''. ''VideoGame/DirgeOfCerberus''. And at the ending[[spoiler: ending [[spoiler: Nero merges with Weiss to free him from Hojo, making them become one.]]



* In ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'', [[spoiler: [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Twilight Sparkle]]]] cements her place as the BigBad of the series by sabotaging her brother's wedding, imprisoning his fiancee in a cave and leaving her to die, and [[spoiler: marrying her brother herself.]] She tries to justify her crush [[spoiler: and marriage]] to her brother by saying they are NotBloodSiblings. It's still pretty creepy. And before anyone asks, by all appearances her brother has been brainwashed into going along with it.
17th Apr '16 7:40:37 AM JackG
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* In the AlternateHistory novel ''Moon of Ice'' by Brad Linaweaver, Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels HasAType which happens to be just like his ReallyGetsAround daughter Hilda. However after noting this in his diary, he [[LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain forcefully dismisses the idea]].
9th Apr '16 12:24:30 PM Eievie
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You have him [[ChaoticEvil break]] ([[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny sexual]]) [[LawfulStupid taboos]] and engage in certain 'taboo' or borderline activities which are frowned upon by many cultures. Sure, EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas, but some bad men love their mamas a ''little'' too much, and this can be meant to add to the audience's view of the villain as a disgusting, depraved individual who commits evil and [[UnfortunateImplications 'unnatural']] acts [[WhamLine on a]] [[BigHam daily basis]].

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You have him [[ChaoticEvil break]] ([[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny sexual]]) [[LawfulStupid taboos]] and engage in certain 'taboo' "taboo" or borderline activities which are frowned upon by many cultures. Sure, EvenBadMenLoveTheirMamas, but some bad men love their mamas a ''little'' too much, and this can be meant to add to the audience's view of the villain as a disgusting, depraved individual who commits evil and [[UnfortunateImplications 'unnatural']] acts [[WhamLine on a]] [[BigHam daily basis]].



* [[spoiler:Akio Ohtori regularly has sex with [[BrotherSisterIncest his sister Anthy Himemiya]]]] in ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena''. [[spoiler:It's both an example of this trope, and an allusion to their nature -- incest is rather common among many cultures' gods]].

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* [[spoiler:Akio Ohtori regularly has sex with [[BrotherSisterIncest his sister Anthy Himemiya]]]] in ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena''. [[spoiler:It's both an example of this trope, and an allusion to their nature -- incest nature--incest is rather common among many cultures' gods]].



* ''Many'' of the villains in ''ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre'' are incestuous in one way or another, to the point where you start to wonder about the writer...

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* ''Many'' of the villains in ''ComicBook/SandmanMysteryTheatre'' are incestuous in one way or another, to the point where you start to wonder about the writer...writer…



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** FromBadToWorse - [[spoiler:she gets [[ChildByRape pregnant]]. With her own brother's baby]].

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** FromBadToWorse - [[spoiler:she FromBadToWorse--[[spoiler:she gets [[ChildByRape pregnant]]. With her own brother's baby]].



* In ''The Awakening of a Magus'', it is mentioned that a demon descended line to which Voldemort belongs (along with [[DracoInLeatherPants Draco and Snape]]; the line doesn't make you automatically evil) once gave birth to twins (normally, those imbued with the demon's power are only born a few decades apart). These twins became lovers, seeing no one else as a proper partner. Eventually, they gave birth to a child so evil that he manipulated them both into killing each other, and then established a Death Eaters like band. The main reason they didn't come to rule is that the child decided to take a different path - [[spoiler:him and his followers became the Dementors]].

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* In ''The Awakening of a Magus'', it is mentioned that a demon descended line to which Voldemort belongs (along with [[DracoInLeatherPants Draco and Snape]]; the line doesn't make you automatically evil) once gave birth to twins (normally, those imbued with the demon's power are only born a few decades apart). These twins became lovers, seeing no one else as a proper partner. Eventually, they gave birth to a child so evil that he manipulated them both into killing each other, and then established a Death Eaters like band. The main reason they didn't come to rule is that the child decided to take a different path - [[spoiler:him path--[[spoiler:him and his followers became the Dementors]].



* In ''Film/ThatsMyBoy'' [[spoiler:Donny discovers that his son's fiancee is cheating on him... with her younger brother]].

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* In ''Film/ThatsMyBoy'' [[spoiler:Donny discovers that his son's fiancee is cheating on him... him… with her younger brother]].



* The extremely villainous Calvin Candy of ''Film/DjangoUnchained'' is strongly implied to be...involved with his sister. Nothing is explicitly stated or shown, but the subtext is heavy.

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* The extremely villainous Calvin Candy of ''Film/DjangoUnchained'' is strongly implied to be...be… involved with his sister. Nothing is explicitly stated or shown, but the subtext is heavy.



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* Literature/TheBible had Lot's daughters raping him, which allegedly produced the Moabites and Ammonites with whom the Israelites had frequent wars. Many consider this a vilification of these rival tribes. Not everyone is entirely sure what happened between Noah and Ham in a certain tent either. Incidentally, Ruth was a Moabite, so the Davidic line also descends from Lot and his daughters... [[LineageComesFromTheFather but only on the female side, so that's alright]].
** Same thing goes for Tamar and her half-brother, Amnon. He lusted her so much that he managed to rape her in his quarters. [[KarmicDeath Boy, did he pay dearly for that...]]

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* Literature/TheBible had Lot's daughters raping him, which allegedly produced the Moabites and Ammonites with whom the Israelites had frequent wars. Many consider this a vilification of these rival tribes. Not everyone is entirely sure what happened between Noah and Ham in a certain tent either. Incidentally, Ruth was a Moabite, so the Davidic line also descends from Lot and his daughters... daughters… [[LineageComesFromTheFather but only on the female side, so that's alright]].
** Same thing goes for Tamar and her half-brother, Amnon. He lusted her so much that he managed to rape her in his quarters. [[KarmicDeath Boy, did he pay dearly for that...]]that…]]



* [[spoiler:Jaime and Cersei Lannister]] from ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''--both major villains in the Iron Throne plotline. Interestingly, for a long time they were the only genuinely loving couple in the series without a tragic ending in sight. Subverted, in that after [[spoiler:Jaime]]'s HeelFaceTurn, he's still really only attracted to his sister, and it's not until she [[spoiler:turns into a paranoid wreck and runs herself into the ground]] that the relationship fails. [[spoiler:Cersei also has an affair with her weak-willed cousin Lancel]] (though first-cousin relationships are acceptable in Westeros, [[spoiler:Cersei's parents were first cousins]]).
** Played straight with the Targaryen family, who married brother-to-sister for hundreds of years to keep [[InTheBlood their blood pure]], which resulted in a degree of [[RoyallyScrewedUp being batshit insane]]. Not all Targaryens qualify as villains, but the ones who do tend to do so in grand style--Aerys II's madness was so violently destructive that he overthrew his own dynasty, committing several unpleasant murders which sparked off Robert's Rebellion. Aerys also became so insane that he got turned on watching people getting burned alive and would then violently rape his sister-wife, even though he had been forced to marry her by his parents, who themselves were siblings and had married for love against their father's wishes. Though Jaehaerys the Wise, considered [[TheGoodKing the best King]] to ever sit the Iron Throne, married his sister. There's an in-universe saying that when a Targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin to decide if he'll be great or mad. However the unpleasant and mentally unstable [[TheEvilPrince Viserys Taragryen]], though never marrying his sister Daenerys, sometimes treats her in a sexual manner and [[spoiler:attempted to take her virginity before her wedding]].

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* [[spoiler:Jaime and Cersei Lannister]] from ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''--both major villains in the Iron Throne plotline.''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''--who are as villainous as GreyAndGrayMorality gets. Interestingly, for a long time they were the only genuinely loving couple in the series without a tragic ending in sight. Subverted, in that after [[spoiler:Jaime]]'s HeelFaceTurn, he's HeelFaceTurn and improved morality, he still really only attracted to his sister, and it's loves her. It's not until she [[spoiler:turns into a paranoid wreck and runs herself into the ground]] that the relationship fails. [[spoiler:Cersei also has an affair with her their weak-willed cousin Lancel]] (though first-cousin relationships are acceptable in Westeros, [[spoiler:Cersei's Westeros--[[spoiler:Cersei's parents were first cousins]]).
** Played straight with the Targaryen family, who married brother-to-sister for hundreds of years to keep [[InTheBlood their blood pure]], which resulted in a degree of [[RoyallyScrewedUp being batshit insane]]. Not all Targaryens qualify as villains, but the ones who do tend to do so in grand style--Aerys II's madness was so violently destructive that he overthrew his own dynasty, committing several unpleasant murders which sparked off Robert's Rebellion. Aerys also became so insane that he got turned on watching people getting burned alive and would then violently rape his sister-wife, even though he had been forced to marry her by his parents, who parents--who themselves were siblings and had married for love against their ''their'' father's wishes. Though Jaehaerys the Wise, considered [[TheGoodKing the best King]] to ever sit the Iron Throne, married his sister. There's an in-universe saying that when a Targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin to decide if he'll be great or mad. However the unpleasant and mentally unstable [[TheEvilPrince Viserys Taragryen]], though never marrying his sister Daenerys, sometimes treats her in a sexual manner and [[spoiler:attempted to take her virginity before her wedding]].



** ...There's a distinction?
** Yes - it might be disgusting, but given the choice between a King who's porking his sister and a king who's (for example) murdering thousands and skinning puppies, I'd take the incest fellow.
* The "novelization" of the 1980 ''Film/FlashGordon'' included a small scene of Ming and Aura pleasurably reminiscing about the most recent time they had (BDSM-heavy) sex together. .... eeeeeep.

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** ...There's ** …there's a distinction?
** Yes - it Yes--it might be disgusting, but given the choice between a King who's porking his sister and a king who's (for example) murdering thousands and skinning puppies, I'd take the incest fellow.
* The "novelization" of the 1980 ''Film/FlashGordon'' included a small scene of Ming and Aura pleasurably reminiscing about the most recent time they had (BDSM-heavy) sex together. .... together… eeeeeep.



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** And ''then'' [[spoiler: it turns out that Sofie, the Crowe's new maid -- after they lost the last three to, er, Justin[[note]]Via implied mind rape and not-at-all implied literal rape using mind control[[/note]] -- is actually his long-lost daughter. Which, through a convoluted series of events, only Iris actually realizes, and, despite Justin being all over the girl, hasn't actually told anyone yet.]] Worse yet: WordOfGod said that if the series had continued, [[spoiler:Sofie would have married Justin and had a child. Although it wouldn't have been clear whether the child was Justin's or Ben's.]]

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** And ''then'' [[spoiler: it turns out that Sofie, the Crowe's new maid -- after maid--after they lost the last three to, er, Justin[[note]]Via implied mind rape and not-at-all implied literal rape using mind control[[/note]] -- is control[[/note]]--is actually his long-lost daughter. Which, through a convoluted series of events, only Iris actually realizes, and, despite Justin being all over the girl, hasn't actually told anyone yet.]] Worse yet: WordOfGod said that if the series had continued, [[spoiler:Sofie would have married Justin and had a child. Although it wouldn't have been clear whether the child was Justin's or Ben's.]]



** A more metaphorical example in the Buffyverse would be vampires in general; Darla sired Angelus, and they were a couple (as well as villains) for several hundred years; Angelus sired Drusilla, who calls him "daddy" at one point but also "my Angel" - and they have definitely slept together; Drusilla sired Spike ... Apparently some vampires seek out people to turn into their eternal partner, but since that involves "siring" them, it could be seen as a kind of incest.

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** A more metaphorical example in the Buffyverse would be vampires in general; Darla sired Angelus, and they were a couple (as well as villains) for several hundred years; Angelus sired Drusilla, who calls him "daddy" at one point but also "my Angel" - and Angel"--and they have definitely slept together; Drusilla sired Spike ... Spike… Apparently some vampires seek out people to turn into their eternal partner, but since that involves "siring" them, it could be seen as a kind of incest.



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* In ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', one of the 13 vampire clans are the Giovanni. In addition to being necrophiliac {{Necromancer}}s and members of TheMafia, they are also one big extended family...and really, ''really'' dedicated to "keeping it in the family".

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* In ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', one of the 13 vampire clans are the Giovanni. In addition to being necrophiliac {{Necromancer}}s and members of TheMafia, they are also one big extended family...family… and really, ''really'' dedicated to "keeping it in the family".



** Not a conventional Engagement Challenge, though - they're usually honoured even when they're meant to be impossible, but Antiochus hasn't the slightest intention of honouring this one. The terms of the challenge mean that getting it wrong equals death, but it's made very clear that, for the sake of the king's own safety, getting it right ALSO equals death.

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** Not a conventional Engagement Challenge, though - they're though--they're usually honoured even when they're meant to be impossible, but Antiochus hasn't the slightest intention of honouring this one. The terms of the challenge mean that getting it wrong equals death, but it's made very clear that, for the sake of the king's own safety, getting it right ALSO ''also'' equals death.



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* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', has this. [[AntiVillain Arvis]] and his half sister Deirdre. In fact its a major point in the BigBad's plot to have the two marry and breed, so he could create a vessel for a Dark God. [[spoiler: ''And it happens''. To be fair, by that point not only neither knew it... but Deirdre was BrainwashedAndCrazy. Arvis ''did'' find out eventually, but he'd gone through such a TraumaCongaLine by that point that he was far beyond caring. (And their Dark God Vessel Kid was already born, with his twin sister as the inheritor of ''another'' bloodline and on the side of good.)]]

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* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', has this. [[AntiVillain Arvis]] and his half sister Deirdre. In fact its a major point in the BigBad's plot to have the two marry and breed, so he could create a vessel for a Dark God. [[spoiler: ''And it happens''. To be fair, by that point not only neither knew it... it… but Deirdre was BrainwashedAndCrazy. Arvis ''did'' find out eventually, but he'd gone through such a TraumaCongaLine by that point that he was far beyond caring. (And their Dark God Vessel Kid was already born, with his twin sister as the inheritor of ''another'' bloodline and on the side of good.)]]



** It was vaguely hinted at to be happening - largely for {{Squick}} reasons - back when the [[MirrorUniverse Praetorians]] were simply {{Evil Counterpart}}s to the signature heroes. Now that they're [[GreyAndGrayMorality morally ambiguous]] and important characters in their own right, it would be out of place.

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** It was vaguely hinted at to be happening - largely happening--largely for {{Squick}} reasons - back reasons--back when the [[MirrorUniverse Praetorians]] were simply {{Evil Counterpart}}s to the signature heroes. Now that they're [[GreyAndGrayMorality morally ambiguous]] and important characters in their own right, it would be out of place.



* In ''[[VideoGame/RivalSchools Project Justice]]'', [[SmugSnake Kurow Kirishima]] [[AllLoveIsUnrequited onesidedly lusts]] after his beautiful older sister [[LadyOfWar Yurika]]. Made even more obvious in the Darkside Student Council path which is fron Kurow's POV [[spoiler: and in Kurow's ending, when he's seen caressing his [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed-into-subservience-to-him]] older sister's hair...]]

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* In ''[[VideoGame/RivalSchools Project Justice]]'', [[SmugSnake Kurow Kirishima]] [[AllLoveIsUnrequited onesidedly lusts]] after his beautiful older sister [[LadyOfWar Yurika]]. Made even more obvious in the Darkside Student Council path which is fron Kurow's POV [[spoiler: and in Kurow's ending, when he's seen caressing his [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwashed-into-subservience-to-him]] older sister's hair...]]hair…]]




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