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19th May '18 12:00:10 AM MJTrooper
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** On the other hand, other incestuous relationships aren't seen in '''such''' bad light. Raquesis was in UnrequitedLove with her half-brother Eldigan, whereas Claud and Sylvia are hinted to be either long lost siblings or distant cousins (WordOfGod says it's the latter), and they were all good guys. In the second generation Lester and Lana can marry their cousins Patty and Faval (with the bonus that their moms, Adean and Briggid, were ''identical twin sisters''), while Larcei is one of the most likely suitors for her half-cousin Shanan ''and'' [[GenerationXerox Raquesis's daughter Nanna can potentially marry Eldigan's son Ares]] (which is actually how the player gets in-game confirmation of how Raquesis really felt about Eldigan), and they're all on the side of good too.

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** On the other hand, other incestuous relationships aren't seen in '''such''' bad light. Raquesis Lachesis was in UnrequitedLove with her half-brother Eldigan, whereas Claud and Sylvia are hinted to be either long lost siblings or distant cousins (WordOfGod says it's the latter), and they were all good guys. In the second generation Lester and Lana can marry their cousins Patty and Faval (with the bonus that their moms, Adean and Briggid, were ''identical twin sisters''), while Larcei is one of the most likely suitors for her half-cousin Shanan ''and'' [[GenerationXerox Raquesis's Lachesis's daughter Nanna can potentially marry Eldigan's son Ares]] (which is actually how the player gets in-game confirmation of how Raquesis really felt about Eldigan), and they're all on the side of good too.
13th May '18 8:27:04 PM PaulA
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* ''Film/{{Precious}}'': The title character had been repeatedly raped by her father resulting in two pregnancies. [[spoiler: It is implied that her mother forced her to have sex with her as well, while in the novel it is explicit.]]
31st Mar '18 9:44:04 AM Vanshira
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* At the end of [[TheCatWhoSeries The Cat Who Played Post Office]], Qwilleran receives a posthumous letter from [[spoiler:Penelope Goodwinter, confessing to a lifelong unrequited love for her brother Alexander that led her to arrange the murder of a poor girl he'd impregnated. She claims in the letter that she expects him to murder her to prevent exposure; Qwilleran realizes in the last paragraph of the book that she committed suicide in such a way as to frame him, in revenge for his deciding to marry someone else.]]
31st Mar '18 9:33:05 AM Vanshira
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* [[IOwnThisTown Maven Black-Briar]] of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' is head of a family that includes Hemming, Ingun, and Sibbi Black-Briar. Hemming is indisputably her son. He may mention in conversation that Ingun and Sibbi are his children; Maven is listed in the Creation Kit as their grandmother. However, Maven explicitly calls Ingun her "favorite daughter", and both Ingun and Sibbi refer to her as their mother. Maven has no husband; Hemming has no wife. It's not hard to do the math, especially since both kids [[InbredAndEvil sound like Borgia expys]] - Sibbi is in prison for a murder even his mother/grandmother found unnecessarily heinous (though more from the bad publicity than the act itself), while Ingun, ''the only remotely pleasant member of the family'', is fascinated by alchemy and its more lethal applications.
15th Mar '18 1:53:52 PM Pichu-kun
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* Demon sisters Scanty and Kneesocks of ''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' apparently enjoy partaking in strange sexual play involving [[NoodleImplements caviar, figs and goat milk]] when the mayor isn't looking.

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* ''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'':
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Demon sisters Scanty and Kneesocks of ''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' apparently enjoy partaking in strange sexual play involving [[NoodleImplements caviar, figs and goat milk]] when the mayor isn't looking.



* [[spoiler:Akio Ohtori regularly has sex with [[BrotherSisterIncest his sister Anthy Himemiya]]]] in ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena''. [[spoiler:It's both an example of this trope, and an allusion to their nature--incest is rather common among many cultures' gods.]]
** [[spoiler: Miki and Kozue]] may do the same during their car ride, and [[spoiler: Touga and Nanami]] very nearly do; at best, it's a rather blunt metaphor about each girl's relationship with men now that they've begun puberty.
** [[spoiler:Interestingly enough, Nanami, the girl who has harbored a very blatant (and often sexual) crush on her brother, is absolutely horrified when she discovers that Anthy and Akio are intimate. And during her own car ride with her brother she reacts with disgust and punches him away when he makes a move on her.]]

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* ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'':
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[[spoiler:Akio Ohtori Ohtori]] regularly has sex with [[BrotherSisterIncest his sister Anthy Himemiya]]]] in ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena''.sister]] [[spoiler:Anthy Himemiya]]. [[spoiler:It's both an example of this trope, and an allusion to their nature--incest is rather common among many cultures' gods.]]
** [[spoiler: Miki and Kozue]] may do the same during their car ride, and [[spoiler: Touga and Nanami]] very nearly do; at best, it's a rather blunt metaphor about each girl's relationship with men now that they've begun puberty.
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puberty. Interestingly enough, Nanami, [[spoiler:Nanami]], the girl who has harbored a very blatant (and often sexual) crush on her brother, is absolutely horrified when she discovers that Anthy [[spoiler:Anthy and Akio Akio]] are intimate. And during her own car ride with her brother she reacts with disgust and punches him away when he makes a move on her.]]


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* Ashfur from ''Literature/WarriorCats'' is actually Squirrelflight's uncle through her mother, though this isn't mentioned in the text. [[spoiler:Ashfur attempted to kill Squirrelflight's kits and her mate in jealousy]].
14th Mar '18 6:03:45 PM AmbarSonofDeshar
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Compare/contrast BrotherSisterIncest, {{Twincest}}, ParentalIncest, KissingCousins. Can cross over with FreudianExcuse if it's implied to be rooted in child abuse. May be part of a RapeAsBackstory scenario, either for the villain themself, or whichever relative(s) were involved.

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Compare/contrast BrotherSisterIncest, {{Twincest}}, ParentalIncest, KissingCousins. Can cross over with FreudianExcuse if it's implied to be rooted in child abuse. May be part of a RapeAsBackstory scenario, either for the villain themself, or whichever relative(s) were involved. \n If children result, expect them to be InbredAndEvil.
15th Feb '18 11:55:37 AM Homemaderat
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'', it's never been outright stated that Molly's evil parents were an incestuous couple, but they ''do'' happen to have the exact same powers and their mutations manifested in exactly the same way, which is, if not impossible, extremely rare with mutants who are not biologically related.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'', it's never been outright stated that Molly's evil parents were an incestuous couple, but they ''do'' happen to have the exact same powers and their mutations manifested in exactly the same way, which is, if not impossible, extremely rare with mutants who are not biologically related. The 2017 series revealed that they were foster siblings that got their powers through experimentation by Alice's mother, at least according to said mother.
3rd Feb '18 9:24:31 PM IdentityUnknown
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** …there's a distinction?
** Yes--it might be disgusting, but given the choice between a King who's porking his sister and a king who's (for example) murdering thousands and skinning puppies, I'd take the incest fellow.
17th Dec '17 1:34:18 PM MadAnthony94
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* In ''Series/{{Defiance}}'', Kindzi and her father T'evgin share a lot of deep kisses. It's been implied by other Votan characters that incest is common among the Omecs.

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* In ''Series/{{Defiance}}'', Kindzi and her father T'evgin share a lot of deep kisses. It's been implied by other Votan characters that incest is common among the Omecs. That said, Kindzi is villainous enough to disturb even other Omec, while T'evgin eventually proves to be a pretty good guy.
2nd Sep '17 3:25:15 PM Eievie
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** Jaime and Cersei Lannister engage in {{twincest}}, which is revealed as an EstablishingCharacterMoment. Although with the series' GreyAndGrayMorality, they're villain-''ish'' rather than full-on villain''ous''. However, [[spoiler:Jaime becomes less villainous over time as he grows apart from his sister, while Cersei becomes more villainous. She also goes on to seduce her teenage cousin Lancel, with Jaime, who has always been faithful to her, feeling just as deeply betrayed as if an unrelated partner cheated on him.]]
*** Jaime and Cersei, however, are an unusual example of this trope, and might even be interpreted as a deconstruction; even when they're at their worst, their love for each other and for the children born of their incest is humanising for both of them, and is Cersei's single redeeming feature. Also, their justified fear of being caught and killed along with their children is one of the things that pushes them to some of their worst acts, and they (especially Jaime,) would likely be a lot less villainous if their lives weren't endangered by their feelings for each other. Finally, their villain credentials are firmly established through their willingness to murder children and other innocent people, while Cersei gets noticeably worse for reasons totally unrelated to her relationship with Jaime, making their incest almost a separate issue from their morality, and as it drives many of the events of the books it is certainly treated as more than a quick shorthand for showing how evil they are.

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** Jaime and Cersei Lannister engage in {{twincest}}, which is revealed as an EstablishingCharacterMoment. Although with the series' GreyAndGrayMorality, they're villain-''ish'' rather than full-on villain''ous''. However, [[spoiler:Jaime becomes less villainous over time as he grows apart from his sister, while Cersei becomes more villainous. She also goes on to seduce her teenage cousin Lancel, with Jaime, who has always been faithful to her, feeling just as deeply betrayed as if an unrelated partner cheated on him.]]
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]] Jaime and Cersei, however, are an unusual example of this trope, and might even be interpreted as a deconstruction; {{deconstruction}}; even when they're at their worst, their love for each other and for the children born of their incest is humanising for both of them, and is Cersei's single redeeming feature. Also, their justified fear of being caught and killed along with their children is one of the things that pushes them to some of their worst acts, and acts--"The things we do for love,"--and they (especially Jaime,) Jaime) would likely be a lot less villainous if their lives weren't endangered by their feelings for each other. Finally, their villain credentials are firmly established through their willingness to murder children and other innocent people, while Cersei gets noticeably worse for reasons totally unrelated to her relationship with Jaime, making their incest almost a separate issue from their morality, and as it drives many of the events of the books it is certainly treated as more than a quick shorthand for showing how evil they are.



** Euron [[EyepatchOfPower "Crow's Eye"]] Greyjoy, [[spoiler:King of the Iron Islands]], is implied to have molested his younger brother Aeron Greyjoy, who despises and fears him, and still has nightmares of a creaking hinge when Euron visited him at night.

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** Euron [[EyepatchOfPower "Crow's Eye"]] Greyjoy, [[spoiler:King of the Iron Islands]], Greyjoy is implied to have molested his younger brother Aeron Greyjoy, Aeron, who despises and fears him, and still has nightmares of a creaking hinge when Euron visited him at night.



* [[BigBad Lord]] [[HornyDevils Raith]] of the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent White Court]] in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' has the habit of ''raping'' his daughters into [[MoreThanMindControl submission]], thus amplifying the evil of this trope by making it non-consensual. He kills his sons for being potential "threats," though, despite the fact that this cuts his potential workforce in half and the canonical fact that the [[LesbianVampire Raiths tend not to care about gender]] when it comes to food. [[spoiler:Maybe he decided making the extra sexual slaves would have been too much of a drain, since he'd been cursed to be unable to feed and thus die a slow death via starvation. In the end, it doesn't matter, since it's one of his 'not a threat' daughters that [[MindRape turns him into a vegetable]].]]

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* [[BigBad Lord]] [[HornyDevils Raith]] of the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent White Court]] in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' has the habit of ''raping'' his daughters into [[MoreThanMindControl submission]], thus amplifying the evil of this trope by making it non-consensual. He kills his sons for being potential "threats," though, despite the fact that this cuts his potential workforce in half and the canonical fact that the [[LesbianVampire Raiths tend not to care about gender]] when it comes to food. [[spoiler:Maybe he decided making the extra sexual slaves would have been too much of a drain, since he'd been cursed to be unable to feed and thus die a slow death via starvation. In the end, it doesn't matter, since it's one of his 'not "not a threat' threat" daughters that [[MindRape turns him into a vegetable]].]]



* In ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' Baron Vladimir Harkonnen openly ogles his nephew Feyd-Rautha (which both movie and miniseries played up for all its worth) and he also harbors an attraction to Paul Atreides [[spoiler: who, it turns out, is his grandson.]] ). The ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' suggests that the Baron and Feyd had a sexual relationship, and strongly implies that he had sex with his mother before strangling her.

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* In ''Literature/{{Dune}}'' Baron Vladimir Harkonnen openly ogles his nephew Feyd-Rautha (which both movie and miniseries played up for all its worth) and he also harbors an attraction to Paul Atreides [[spoiler: who, [[spoiler:who, it turns out, is his grandson.]] ). The ''Literature/DuneEncyclopedia'' suggests that the Baron and Feyd had a sexual relationship, and strongly implies that he had sex with his mother before strangling her.



* Gerridon and Jamethiel, of ''Literature/ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath''. They're the most infamous people in the entire history of their people, and they were {{twin|cest}}s and consorts. However, this is a {{subverted|Trope}} case, because as the story goes on, you learn that incest was traditional and culturally sanctioned in their culture, and doesn't have much to do with their being villainous. And the ''heroes'' of the story are shaping up to be twincestuous too!

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* ''Literature/ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath'' plays with this trope with Gerridon and Jamethiel, of ''Literature/ChroniclesOfTheKencyrath''.Jamethiel. They're the most infamous people in the entire history of their people, and they were {{twin|cest}}s and consorts. However, this is a {{subverted|Trope}} case, slowly {{subverted|Trope}}, because as the story goes on, you learn that incest was traditional and culturally sanctioned in their culture, and doesn't have much to do with their being villainous. And the ''heroes'' of the story are shaping up to be twincestuous too!too! The Kencyrath have a... different culture than humans, and these two cases aren't the last incest you hear of. But this trope is pretty averted, and even in cases when incest '''is''' something horrific, it's portrayed as RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, not VillainousIncest.
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