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25th Jul '17 11:29:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* Commodus from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' had a sister complex. The sister in question, Lucilla, was not into it.

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* Commodus from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'' had a sister complex. The sister in question, Lucilla, was not into it. It also seemed to be rooted in an overriding sense of narcissism on Commodus' part, judging by his stated obsession to create a "blood pure" dynasty, whether she wanted to or not.
25th Jul '17 9:04:04 AM Malady
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* Creator/AllisonPregler doesn't understand why this is {{averted|Trope}} in ''Witchcraft,'' which features a pair of lovers reincarnated as [[ParentalIncest a mother and son]].

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* Creator/AllisonPregler doesn't understand why this is {{averted|Trope}} in ''Witchcraft,'' ''Film/{{Witchcraft}},'' which features a pair of lovers reincarnated as [[ParentalIncest a mother and son]].



* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' [[PlayingWithATrope plays with]] this trope [[PlayedForLaughs for laughs]]--ComicBook/{{Superboy}} and [[NaiveNewcomer Miss Martian]] go undercover as a pair of villainous siblings, though in reality they're LoveInterests. When they have their BigDamnKiss while still in disguise, [[EvenEvilHasStandards actual villain]] [[AnIcePerson Icicle Jr.]] [[SubvertedTrope is horrified]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' [[PlayingWithATrope {{PlayingWithATrope plays with]] this trope [[PlayedForLaughs for laughs]]--ComicBook/{{Superboy}} and [[NaiveNewcomer Miss Martian]] go undercover as a pair of villainous siblings, though in reality they're LoveInterests. When they have their BigDamnKiss while still in disguise, [[EvenEvilHasStandards actual villain]] [[AnIcePerson Icicle Jr.]] [[SubvertedTrope is horrified]].
22nd Jun '17 5:33:03 AM jormis29
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* Non-consensual incestuous relationships figure in the backstories of several Creator/DeanKoontz characters, such as in ''The Bad Place'', ''Whispers'', ''Life Expectancy'', and ''What the Night Knows''.

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* Non-consensual incestuous relationships figure in the backstories of several Creator/DeanKoontz characters, such as in ''The Bad Place'', ''Literature/TheBadPlace'', ''Whispers'', ''Life Expectancy'', and ''What the Night Knows''.
2nd Jun '17 1:38:26 AM Nakuyabi
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* Literature/TheBible had Lot's daughters raping him, which allegedly produced the Moabites and Ammonites with whom the Israelites had frequent wars. Many consider this a vilification of these rival tribes. Not everyone is entirely sure what happened between Noah and Ham in a certain tent either. Incidentally, Ruth was a Moabite, so the Davidic line also descends from Lot and his daughters… [[LineageComesFromTheFather but only on the female side, so that's alright]].

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* Literature/TheBible had Lot's daughters raping him, which allegedly is said to have produced the Moabites and Ammonites with whom the Israelites had frequent wars. Many consider this a vilification of these rival tribes. tribes, though various arguments in Literature/TheTalmud go back and forth on whether one should consider Lot or his daughters the villains for their part in this; this being partially because the much admired matriarch Ruth was a Moabite, so the Davidic line (which goes all the way to Jesus Christ, if you accept the New Testament) also descends from Lot and his daughters. Of course, some also contend that since this descent comes [[LineageComesFromTheFather only from the female side of the line, any lingering legacy of shame associated with this incident isn't heritable]].
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Not everyone is entirely sure what happened between Noah and his son Ham in a certain tent either. Incidentally, Ruth either, though many think it was a Moabite, so the Davidic line also descends from Lot this due to Noah's rather vindictive curse against him and his daughters… [[LineageComesFromTheFather but only on the female side, so that's alright]].particularly Ham's son Canaan (possibly for putting him up to it).
13th May '17 10:24:53 AM Eievie
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Compare/contrast BrotherSisterIncest, ParentalIncest, KissingCousins. Can cross over with FreudianExcuse if it's implied to be rooted in child abuse. May be part of a RapeAsBackstory scenario, either for the villain themself, or whichever relative(s) were involved.

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Compare/contrast BrotherSisterIncest, {{Twincest}}, ParentalIncest, KissingCousins. Can cross over with FreudianExcuse if it's implied to be rooted in child abuse. May be part of a RapeAsBackstory scenario, either for the villain themself, or whichever relative(s) were involved.



-->'''Audience line''': "Incest is the best, put your sister to the test!"

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-->'''Audience line''': "Incest Incest is the best, put your sister to the test!"test!



* In some versions of the Arthurian legends Mordred was the son of Myth/KingArthur and his half-sister Morgana (swept under the rug in the musical ''Theatre/{{Camelot}}'' but dramatized in the movie ''Film/{{Excalibur}}''). However, in an inversion of the usual applications of this trope ''she'' seduced him (using a disguise spell) as part of her EvilPlan to avenge his father using a similar to have sex with her mother after murdering her father.
** Villain Vortigern was also incestuous with his daughter.
** T.H. White's ''Literature/TheSwordInTheStone'' discusses that it is committing this sin, however unwittingly, that dooms Arthur to such a tragic life.
*** Well, drowning all those children may have had something to do with it, too. While this is usually chalked up as Arthur's greatest sin, it's only one of many sins that bring Camelot down.

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* In some versions of the Arthurian legends Mordred was the son of Myth/KingArthur and his half-sister Morgana (swept under the rug in the musical ''Theatre/{{Camelot}}'' but dramatized in the movie ''Film/{{Excalibur}}''). However, in an inversion of the usual applications of this trope ''she'' seduced him (using a disguise spell) as part of her EvilPlan to avenge his father using a similar to have sex with her mother after murdering her father.
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father. Villain Vortigern was also incestuous with his daughter.
** T.H. White's ''Literature/TheSwordInTheStone'' discusses that it is committing this sin, however unwittingly, that dooms Arthur to such a tragic life.
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life. (Well, drowning all those children may have had something to do with it, too. While this is usually chalked up as Arthur's greatest sin, it's only one of many sins that bring Camelot down.)



* In ''Literature/ABrothersPrice'' this does not only serve the purpose of showing how evil the villains are, it also helps the heroes find out that [[spoiler: a woman was in bed with her villainous brother in the literal and figurative sense. There's a child]].

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* In ''Literature/ABrothersPrice'' this does not only serve the purpose of showing how evil the villains are, it also helps the heroes find out that [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a woman was in bed with her villainous brother in the literal and figurative sense. There's a child]].



* Caligula with his sisters and Nero with his mother, both in ''Literature/IClaudius'' and (allegedly) in RealLife.
** The only reason Nero was ever emperor is that his mother married the emperor Claudius. Her ''uncle.'' Claudius was the first man in Roman history to marry his niece and had to change the law to permit the union.
** Agrippina (the niece Claudius married) was also one of Caligula's sisters, by the way. In Paul L. Maier's historical novel ''The Flames of Rome'', Nero's wife chews him out for his part in the affair, specifically pointing out that incest was apparently an old habit with her: "How old was she when her brother Caligula first seduced her, twelve!?" The Julio-Claudian dynasty in its latter years was a major {{squick}}fest all around.

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* Caligula with his sisters and Nero with his mother, both in ''Literature/IClaudius'' and (allegedly) in RealLife.
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RealLife. The only reason Nero was ever even emperor is that his mother married the emperor Claudius. Her Claudius--her ''uncle.'' Claudius was the first man in Roman history to marry his niece and had to change the law to permit the union.
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union. Agrippina (the niece Claudius married) was also one of Caligula's sisters, by the way. In Paul L. Maier's historical novel ''The Flames of Rome'', Nero's wife chews him out for his part in the affair, specifically pointing out that incest was apparently an old habit with her: "How old was she when her brother Caligula first seduced her, twelve!?" The Julio-Claudian dynasty in its latter years was a major {{squick}}fest all around.



** [[spoiler:Jaime and Cersei Lannister]] engage in {{twincest}}, which is revealed as an EstablishingCharacterMoment. Although with the series' GreyAndGrayMorality, they're villain-ish rather than full-on villainous. However, [[spoiler:Jaime becomes less villainous over time as he grows apart from his sister, while Cersei remains horrible, even seducing her teenage cousin Lancel.]]

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** [[spoiler:Jaime and Cersei Lannister]] engage in {{twincest}}, which is revealed as an EstablishingCharacterMoment. Although with the series' GreyAndGrayMorality, they're villain-ish villain-''ish'' rather than full-on villainous. villain''ous''. However, [[spoiler:Jaime becomes less villainous over time as he grows apart from his sister, while Cersei remains horrible, even becomes more villainous. She also goes on to seducing her teenage cousin Lancel.]]
17th Apr '17 7:27:00 PM Katsuhagi
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** The whole Gaunt family also fits into this, frequently marrying cousins, which led to a strain of mental instability, except Merope, who defied her pureblood family's traditions and married a local {{Muggle|s}}. By doing this, Merope allowed her son Tom Riddle (better known as [[BigBad Lord Voldemort]]) to become one of the most powerful wizards of all time instead of being pathetically inbred.

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** The whole Gaunt family also fits into this, frequently marrying cousins, which led to a strain of mental instability, except Merope, who defied her pureblood family's traditions and married a local {{Muggle|s}}.{{Muggle|s}}, albeit through a LovePotion that makes him of a ChildByRape. By doing this, Merope allowed her son Tom Riddle (better known as [[BigBad Lord Voldemort]]) to become one of the most powerful wizards of all time instead of being pathetically inbred.
10th Mar '17 10:45:34 AM Pichu-kun
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* Used in the ''Disney/TheLionKing'' fanfic, ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876945/1/Nala-My-Father-s-Madness Nala: My Father's Madness]]''. After [[spoiler:Sarafina's death]] Scar tries to seduce Nala due to the fact Zira hasn't given him a suitable enough heir (Nuka is sickly). Nala refuses. When it's revealed that Scar is her father, the lioness' are disgusted when Zira claims Scar tried to make his own daughter his queen. Scar tries to claim that he [[ThoroughlyMistakenIdentity mistook Nala]] for her mother [[spoiler:in his grief]] due to their StrongFamilyResemblance, however no one believes him.

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* Used in the ''Disney/TheLionKing'' fanfic, ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876945/1/Nala-My-Father-s-Madness Nala: My Father's Madness]]''. After [[spoiler:Sarafina's death]] Scar tries to seduce Nala due to the fact Zira hasn't given him a suitable enough heir (Nuka is sickly). Nala refuses. When it's revealed that Scar is her father, the lioness' are disgusted when Zira claims Scar tried to make his own daughter his queen. Scar tries to claim that he [[ThoroughlyMistakenIdentity mistook Nala]] for her mother [[spoiler:in his grief]] due to their StrongFamilyResemblance, however no one believes him. Nala is also bethroted to her half-brother Nuka, though this is presented negatively due to their age gap and relationship. Scar doesn't care though and won't annul the engagement.
10th Mar '17 4:10:25 AM KidDynamite
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* ''Series/{{CSI}}'' had an episode that dealt with the murders of a husband and wife, and their two sons, but their two daughters survived unharmed. Over the course of the investigation, we find out that the father had been sexually assaulting the older daughter from a young age. [[spoiler: This "relationship" resulted in her getting pregnant at 13 and giving birth to the younger daughter. When Dad started abusing the younger daughter, the older one arranged for a friend to break into the house and kill the family - the father for abusing them, and the rest of the family for never doing anything to try and stop him.]]
10th Mar '17 4:01:57 AM KidDynamite
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* Divia in ''Series/ForeverKnight'', a child vampire who turned her father, proposed this rather forcefully to him. His refusal involved a wooden stake.

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* Divia in ''Series/ForeverKnight'', a child vampire who turned her father, Lacroix, proposed this rather forcefully to him. His refusal involved a wooden stake.



* The "sexual chocolate" angle in the Wrestling/WorldWrestlingFederation which saw Wrestling/MarkHenry betray Wrestling/DLoBrown went back to an event where Henry had sex with his sister, which was his {{Freudian excuse}}. (Wrestling/VinceMcMahon wanted to put himself in an incest angle but his children rejected the idea).

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* The "sexual chocolate" angle in the Wrestling/WorldWrestlingFederation which saw Wrestling/MarkHenry betray Wrestling/DLoBrown went back to an event where Henry had sex with his sister, which was his {{Freudian excuse}}. (Wrestling/VinceMcMahon wanted to put himself in an incest angle but his children rejected the idea).



* Averted in WWE in 2006. When Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon was pregnant with her first child, Vince wanted to do an angle where he would be revealed as the baby's father, but she refused to do it. Undaunted, Vince then suggested Shane would be the baby's father, but both of his kids said no to the idea.

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* Averted in WWE in 2006. When Wrestling/StephanieMcMahon was pregnant with her first child, Vince Wrestling/VinceMcMahon wanted to do an angle where he would be revealed as the baby's father, but she refused to do it. Undaunted, Vince then suggested Shane Wrestling/ShaneMcMahon (Vince's son/Stephanie's brother) would be the baby's father, but both of his kids said no to the idea.idea.
* Paul and Katie Lea Burchill.
7th Mar '17 8:15:34 AM gb00393
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** Twins Cersei and Jamie Lannister's sexual relationship is at the heart of much of the plot, although "villainous" is no so straightforward in this series.

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** Twins Cersei and Jamie Lannister's sexual relationship is at the heart of much of the plot, although "villainous" is no not so straightforward in this series.
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