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19th Apr '16 7:08:28 AM aye_amber
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** Also the concern of some WB staff such as FrizFreleng. While Elmer was designated Bugs' main antagonist, they worried he was so meek and unthreatening that audiences would ultimately start to feel Bugs was bullying Elmer rather than thwarting him. Later foes such as Yosemite Sam, Rocky and Muggsy, and Marvin The Martian were created to counter this by being far more self explanatory villains, while Elmer became more commonly cast in non villainous roles.

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** Also the concern of some WB staff such as FrizFreleng.Creator/FrizFreleng. While Elmer was designated Bugs' main antagonist, they worried he was so meek and unthreatening that audiences would ultimately start to feel Bugs was bullying Elmer rather than thwarting him. Later foes such as Yosemite Sam, Rocky and Muggsy, and Marvin The Martian were created to counter this by being far more self explanatory villains, while Elmer became more commonly cast in non villainous roles.
18th Apr '16 2:40:13 PM erforce
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* The Nazis in the ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' series, naturally. In another ''Last Crusade'' scene, Indy's father tells the BigBad that he is slimy and evil not strictly because he is a Nazi sympathizer, but because he is an ''American'' Nazi sympathizer (i.e., he is betraying his country). Unlike the German soldiers, he had a choice in the matter.

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* The Nazis in the ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' series, naturally. In another ''Last Crusade'' scene, a scene from ''[[Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade The Last Crusade]]'', Indy's father tells the BigBad that he is slimy and evil not strictly because he is a Nazi sympathizer, but because he is an ''American'' Nazi sympathizer (i.e., he is betraying his country). Unlike the German soldiers, he had a choice in the matter.
3rd Mar '16 2:37:43 PM Morgenthaler
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* The {{Anti Hero}}es of ''SinCity'' have taken on many a Villain by Default in their stories.

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* The {{Anti Hero}}es of ''SinCity'' ''ComicBook/SinCity'' have taken on many a Villain by Default in their stories.



** That's explained by the fact that Victor's a broad parody of the British ''pukka sahib'' stereotype. That is, his passion for hunting is a symptom of his particular brand of upper-class twittedness - more so since this type is usually all about bagging the 'big game'. He's actually named after the classic GreatWhiteHunter of Victorian literature, Allan Quatermain.



* Many of the villains on ''CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' are industrialists, whose sole motivation seems to be to produce as much pollution as possible. The exception is Looten Plunder, who is of course in it for the money.
** Hoggish Greedly was also in it for the buck, though he wasn't a billionaire like Plunder, but a less wealthy pioneer in dirty industry. However, their motives didn't remain consistent, and oftentimes, they would harm the environment out of sheer malice.
*** Makes sense, really. If you were just trying to make it rich, and a bunch of eco-terrorists summoned a ridiculous nature avatar who trashed all your shit and threw you face-first into toxic waste with a smile on his face, ''eight or nine times'', you'd probably invest in a factory that only produces plastic soda rings and immediately dumps them into the ocean, too.
*** Of course, since said powder-blue be-mulleted superhero then inevitably proceeds to clean up all your pollution with seemingly very little effort and no lasting consequence, one might be forgiven for wondering: [[FridgeLogic why NOT pollute?]]

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* Many of the villains on ''CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'' are industrialists, whose sole motivation seems to be to produce as much pollution as possible. The exception is Looten Plunder, who is of course in it for the money.
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money. Hoggish Greedly was also in it for the buck, though he wasn't a billionaire like Plunder, but a less wealthy pioneer in dirty industry. However, their motives didn't remain consistent, and oftentimes, they would harm the environment out of sheer malice.
*** Makes sense, really. If you were just trying to make it rich, and a bunch of eco-terrorists summoned a ridiculous nature avatar who trashed all your shit and threw you face-first into toxic waste with a smile on his face, ''eight or nine times'', you'd probably invest in a factory that only produces plastic soda rings and immediately dumps them into the ocean, too.
*** Of course, since said powder-blue be-mulleted superhero then inevitably proceeds to clean up all your pollution with seemingly very little effort and no lasting consequence, one might be forgiven for wondering: [[FridgeLogic why NOT pollute?]]
3rd Feb '16 10:35:04 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* In ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' and most fantasy media, Necromancers (Or {{Necromantic}}s) invariably abuse their powers for fun and profit. Even though it's a player accessible subclass of the Wizard, it's rare to see a "good" necromancer.
** The problem with this particular example of D&D (in 3rd and 3.5 editions) is that a necromancer who can't or won't cast spells with the [evil] subtype loses a good portion of the spells available from it, mostly the ones that [[EvilIsCool you'd want to be a necromancer for]], anyway.
** Likewise in the ''Warcraft'' universe, at least until the new ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' expansion pack, which will let players play renegade death knights (necromancer-warriors).
** In a similar vein, ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' game ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' has Necromancy as the one sort of magic that the player cannot use, and Necromancers are pretty much the {{Designated Villain}}s for a good portion of the Mage's Guild quests.
*** Its predecessor ''Morrowind'' was a bit more reasonable with it. Necromancy was a widely shunned and ''regionally'' illegal (for religious reasons) on pain of death branch of magic that was practiced by a few minor [=NPCs=], few of which really qualifies as "evil" (the ones that were tended to be bandits). Oh, and practically every tomb has a few skeletons guarding it, and nobody cares. Of course the undead were members of the family (that the tomb belongs too) who [[AllThereInTheManual were people not looked upon favorably by their family in life bound to this duty in the afterlife]] (for the purposes of Morrowind law, Dunmer ancestral magic [[InsistentTerminology doesn't count as necromancy]]).
*** In Skyrim, while you'll still find evil necromancers summoning undead for various purposes, necromancy is no longer outlawed, but still heavily frowned upon.
** {{Eberron}} [[AvertedTrope averts]] it partially, the main elven religion, the undying court, is based on necromancy and yet its main alignment is NeutralGood[[note]]However, it's worth noting that the Undying Court is based on ''positive energy'' necromancy, rather than the usual negative energy necromancy. This means that the deathless they animated draw their strength from the freely-offered devotion of their descendants, rather than through feeding on the living or draining ambient life-energy from the world at large, which Court dogma claims all negative undead do (and WordOfGod generally supports their position)[[/note]].

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* In ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' and most fantasy media, Necromancers (Or {{Necromantic}}s) invariably abuse their powers for fun and profit. Even though it's a player accessible subclass of the Wizard, it's rare to see a "good" necromancer.
** The problem with this particular example of D&D (in 3rd and 3.5 editions) is that
necromancer. After all, a necromancer who can't or won't cast spells with the [evil] subtype loses a good portion of the spells available from it, mostly the ones that [[EvilIsCool you'd want to be a necromancer for]], anyway.
** Likewise in the ''Warcraft'' universe, at least until the new ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' expansion pack, which will let players play renegade death knights (necromancer-warriors).
** In a similar vein, ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' game ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' has Necromancy as the one sort of magic that the player cannot use, and Necromancers are pretty much the {{Designated Villain}}s for a good portion of the Mage's Guild quests.
*** Its predecessor ''Morrowind'' was a bit more reasonable with it. Necromancy was a widely shunned and ''regionally'' illegal (for religious reasons) on pain of death branch of magic that was practiced by a few minor [=NPCs=], few of which really qualifies as
"evil" (the ones that were tended to be bandits). Oh, and practically every tomb has a few skeletons guarding it, and nobody cares. Of course the undead were members subtype loses most of the family (that the tomb belongs too) who [[AllThereInTheManual were people not looked upon favorably by their family in life bound to this duty in the afterlife]] (for the purposes of Morrowind law, Dunmer ancestral magic [[InsistentTerminology doesn't count as necromancy]]).
*** In Skyrim, while you'll still find evil necromancers summoning undead for various purposes, necromancy is no longer outlawed, but still heavily frowned upon.
** {{Eberron}} [[AvertedTrope averts]] it partially, the main elven religion, the undying court, is based on necromancy and yet its main alignment is NeutralGood[[note]]However, it's worth noting that the Undying Court is based on ''positive energy'' necromancy, rather than the usual negative energy necromancy. This means that the deathless they animated draw their strength from the freely-offered devotion of their descendants, rather than through feeding on the living or draining ambient life-energy from the world at large, which Court dogma claims all negative undead do (and WordOfGod generally supports their position)[[/note]].
necromancer's best spells.
3rd Feb '16 10:32:24 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** Some drug ''users'' might also count (see "People who are psychotic" below)



* [[DirtyCommunists Communists]] (especially for works written in the Western countries during the UsefulNotes/ColdWar)
** Even more so if they are actual KGB agents

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* [[DirtyCommunists Communists]] (especially Communists]], especially for works written in the Western countries during the UsefulNotes/ColdWar)
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UsefulNotes/ColdWar. Even more so if they are actual KGB agents



** Unless they're InspirationallyDisadvantaged



* Type 1 [[{{Pirate}} Pirates]].
3rd Feb '16 10:31:15 AM CaptainCrawdad
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* The Nazis in the ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' series, naturally.
** Interestingly, at least in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'', the common grunt soldiers were shown as simply {{Punchclock Villain}}s, with Indy sharing a smile with one - right before punching his lights out - and even engaging in an [[MookChivalry honorable one-on-one duel]].
*** They were still Punchclocks in ''Film/TheLastCrusade''. It's just that the BigBad used locals (that he hired of course), so for the most part you didn't see it as much.
** In another ''Last Crusade'' scene, Indy's father tells the BigBad that he is slimy and evil not strictly because he is a Nazi sympathizer, but because he is an ''American'' Nazi sympathizer (i.e., he is betraying his country). Unlike the German soldiers, he had a choice in the matter.
* In ''StarWars'', any military officer of the Galactic Empire is treated as thoroughly evil, even in situations where it's clear they are [[PunchClockVillain only doing their jobs]]. Note that in ''Film/ANewHope'', one Imperial officer racially abuses Chewie. (Though honestly, once your bosses have not only built but ''used'' something like the Death Star, and then started building ''another'' one, you gotta start considering yourself complicit.)
** Another ''StarWars'' example: The bounty hunters in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', including Boba Fett, are portrayed (however briefly) as an unsavory bunch. It was only in the ExpandedUniverse and, later, ''Attack Of The Clones'' that Fett attained any real characterization.

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* The Nazis in the ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' series, naturally.
** Interestingly, at least in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'', the common grunt soldiers were shown as simply {{Punchclock Villain}}s, with Indy sharing a smile with one - right before punching his lights out - and even engaging in an [[MookChivalry honorable one-on-one duel]].
*** They were still Punchclocks in ''Film/TheLastCrusade''. It's just that the BigBad used locals (that he hired of course), so for the most part you didn't see it as much.
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naturally. In another ''Last Crusade'' scene, Indy's father tells the BigBad that he is slimy and evil not strictly because he is a Nazi sympathizer, but because he is an ''American'' Nazi sympathizer (i.e., he is betraying his country). Unlike the German soldiers, he had a choice in the matter.
* In ''StarWars'', any ''Franchose/StarWars'':
** Any
military officer of the Galactic Empire is treated as thoroughly evil, even in situations where it's clear they are [[PunchClockVillain only doing their jobs]]. Note evil. Though one might assume that some are {{Punch Clock Villain}}s, just about every one with any characterization [[KickTheDog kicks a dog]] in ''Film/ANewHope'', some fashion. For example, in ''Film/ANewHope'' one Imperial officer racially abuses Chewie. (Though honestly, once your bosses have not only built but ''used'' something like the Death Star, and then started building ''another'' one, you gotta start considering yourself complicit.)
Chewie.
** Another ''StarWars'' example: The bounty hunters in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'', including Boba Fett, are portrayed (however briefly) as an unsavory bunch. It was only in the ExpandedUniverse and, later, ''Attack Of The Clones'' that Fett attained any real characterization.
bunch.
2nd Feb '16 10:35:31 PM Dravencour
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* {{Serial rapist}}s (hell, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapists in general]])

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* {{Serial rapist}}s (hell, (as well as [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapists in general]])
2nd Feb '16 10:35:11 PM Dravencour
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* {{Serial rapist}}s

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* {{Serial rapist}}srapist}}s (hell, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rapists in general]])
2nd Feb '16 10:33:47 PM Dravencour
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* {{Serial rapist}}s
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* ''Series/CSIMiami'' had a few NSA agents as foes of Horatio during the run since they cleaned crime scenes, took suspects or committed crimes and hid behind the Patriot Act.
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