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5th Mar '18 5:11:57 PM nombretomado
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* Two of the bosses in ''TheSuffering: Ties That Bind'' are the spirits of a slave hunter (Copperfield) and a misogynistic serial-murdering pimp (The Creeper).

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* Two of the bosses in ''TheSuffering: ''VideoGame/TheSuffering: Ties That Bind'' are the spirits of a slave hunter (Copperfield) and a misogynistic serial-murdering pimp (The Creeper).
22nd Feb '18 11:15:51 AM TheMountainKing
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* Intentionally averted in ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'', at least the comic book. Creator/AlanMoore initially intended to write his Nazi antagonists as straight-up cardboard villains, as per typical views of Nazis, before reflecting that Fascists are people, too, who usually have reasons for their actions a little more complex than [[ForTheEvulz evil for evil's sake]]. Usually that they're pathetic losers who have become control freaks to hide their issues. Adam Susan is sexually frustrated and gets off on his MasterComputer, for example. Inspector Finch is a SympatheticInspectorAntagonist because his experiences in the riots that preceded the fascist government persuaded him that tyranny was better than chaos - so he helped them hunt down minorities because that was what they demanded in exchange for a stable government. The result is lots of GreyAndGrayMorality. The movie, however, plays the trope dead straight - except for Finch, who not only abandons fascism, but in the end permits V's final act of terrorism out of disgust for the government.

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* Intentionally averted in ''ComicBook/VForVendetta'', at least the comic book. Creator/AlanMoore initially intended to write his Nazi antagonists as straight-up cardboard villains, as per typical views of Nazis, before reflecting that Fascists are people, too, who usually have reasons for their actions a little more complex than [[ForTheEvulz evil for evil's sake]]. Usually that they're pathetic However, he does this without actually making them or their ideology any more sympathetic. They're mostly pathetic, insecure losers who have become control freaks to hide use their issues. Adam Susan is sexually frustrated ideology to compensate or ordinary people who were to cowardly to fight back, and gets off on his MasterComputer, for example. instead just went with the flow. [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist Inspector Finch is a SympatheticInspectorAntagonist because his experiences in Finch]], the riots most humanized of them all, ultimately realizes that preceded he can no longer ignore [[FinalSolution his government's crimes]], and, when given the fascist government persuaded him that tyranny was better than chaos - so he helped them hunt down minorities because that was what they demanded in exchange for a stable government. The result is lots of GreyAndGrayMorality. The movie, however, plays the trope dead straight - except for Finch, who not only abandons fascism, but in the end permits V's final act of terrorism out of disgust for the government.opportunity to revive it, chooses to let it collapse.
13th Nov '17 11:02:31 PM WillBGood
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[[caption-width-right:350:So he's a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]], a [[TheUndead Zombie]], and a [[YouDirtyRat Rat]]. [[SarcasmMode Must be a good guy.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:So he's a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]], a [[TheUndead Zombie]], and a [[YouDirtyRat Rat]]. [[SarcasmMode Must be a good guy.]]]]]]
9th Nov '17 1:59:19 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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[[caption-width-right:350:So he's a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]], a [[TheUndead Zombie]], and a [[YouDirtyRat Rat]]. Must be a good guy.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:So he's a [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazi]], a [[TheUndead Zombie]], and a [[YouDirtyRat Rat]]. [[SarcasmMode Must be a good guy.]]
23rd Aug '17 5:22:45 PM Liamdurf
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* Subverted to hell and back again on ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' (''Part II: Battle Tendency'') with '''ThoseWackyNazis'''! No, really! Have we already mentioned that this manga is bizarre? To elaborate: At first, the Nazis are seem trying to revive an [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot ancient race of fossilized Mesoamerican vampires]], most likely for the sake of harnessing their power. However, later on it's revealed [[spoiler:that they were investigating them, from the very beginning, for the sake of finding [[{{Immortality}} a way to eliminate them]], as their resurrection would mean the end of the human race]]. In the end, they come up as heroic and badass. They even give the hero, [[CrazyAwesome Joseph]] [[TricksterArchetype Joestar]], a cool mechanical hand as a thanks gift after he lost it in the final battle.

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* Subverted to hell and back again on ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' (''Part II: Battle Tendency'') with '''ThoseWackyNazis'''! No, really! Have we already mentioned that this manga is bizarre? To elaborate: At first, the Nazis are seem trying to revive an [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot ancient race of fossilized Mesoamerican vampires]], most likely for the sake of harnessing their power. However, later on it's revealed [[spoiler:that they were investigating them, from the very beginning, for the sake of finding [[{{Immortality}} a way to eliminate them]], as their resurrection would mean the end of the human race]]. In the end, they come up as heroic and badass. They even give the hero, [[CrazyAwesome Joseph]] [[TricksterArchetype Joestar]], [[spoiler: a cool mechanical hand as a thanks gift after he lost it in the final battle.]]
31st Jul '17 8:10:26 AM Xlsfd
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** This was an EnforcedTrope. The villains produce pollution ForTheEvulz so that children whose parents work in polluting industries didn't think their parents were villains.
14th May '17 1:39:44 AM SkidTroper
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* [[KnightTemplar Religious Fanatics]]

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* [[KnightTemplar Religious Fanatics]]Fanatics]] (also, on the other end of the spectrum and less commonly portrayed, [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions militant atheists]])
21st Apr '17 10:15:31 AM CosmicFerret
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* Federal officers of any kind on the various ''LawAndOrder'' shows. One exception was a cameo by the woman from ''Series/InPlainSight''.

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* Federal officers of any kind on the various ''LawAndOrder'' ''Franchise/LawAndOrder'' shows. One exception was a cameo by the woman from ''Series/InPlainSight''.
11th Feb '17 11:22:26 PM Philweasel
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** We occasionally meet a nice Hutt, but even they are generally only nice when it's convenient for them.
18th Jan '17 2:04:19 PM margdean56
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* ''Franchose/StarWars'':

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* ''Franchose/StarWars'': ''Franchise/StarWars'':



* {{GrandVizier}}s on Literature/{{Discworld}}. Arguably, grand viziers ''everywhere'', but it's lampshaded every time one shows up in Discworld, sometimes by the Vizier himself. To the point where a new emperor chose a WrongGenreSavvy {{Cloudcuckoolander}} tourist to be his Grand Vizier on the rationale that someone who didn't ''know'' anything about the job would be ''good''.

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* {{GrandVizier}}s {{Grand Vizier}}s on Literature/{{Discworld}}. Arguably, grand viziers ''everywhere'', but it's lampshaded every time one shows up in Discworld, sometimes by the Vizier himself. To the point where a new emperor chose a WrongGenreSavvy {{Cloudcuckoolander}} tourist to be his Grand Vizier on the rationale that someone who didn't ''know'' anything about the job would be ''good''.
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