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5th Dec '16 1:17:29 PM goldenroad
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' got into this in a big way in the 1970s after spending the 1960s preferring to shoot everything, even "outside" scenes, in a studio on video.[[note]]Though even then there were occasional exceptions, with the show's first film-outside moment occurring in the last story of the first series.[[/note]] In the 1980s, as technology improved, it transitioned into doing location shooting in video as well. It's been commented that ''Series/DoctorWho'' fans are rather good at spotting the difference because of the levels of use. It would be less noticeable on black and white episodes, which only exist as film copies of the original videotapes - except that for remastering purposes a technique called [=VidFIRE=] was developed, in order to restore the smoother 'video look' exclusively to scenes shot in the studio.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' got into this in a big way in the 1970s after spending the 1960s preferring to shoot everything, even "outside" scenes, in a studio on video.[[note]]Though even then there were occasional exceptions, with the show's first film-outside moment occurring in the last story of the first series.[[/note]] In the 1980s, as technology improved, it transitioned into doing location shooting in video as well. It's been commented that ''Series/DoctorWho'' fans are rather good at spotting the difference because of the levels of use. It would be less noticeable on black and white episodes, which only exist as film copies of the original videotapes - except that for remastering purposes a technique called [=VidFIRE=] was developed, in order to restore the smoother 'video look' exclusively to scenes shot in the studio. Ultimately, due to a combination of difficulty with some film stock towards the end of his first season, as well as a severely reduced budget, starting with Creator/ColinBaker's second and final season, and lasting the whole of Creator/SylvesterMccoy's tenure, the series was shot exclusively on video.



** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E3TheSontaranExperiment The Sontaran Experiment]]" was all shot on videotape despite being set entirely in a BBCQuarry. This was for several reasons - one was to save money as it was a [[BottleEpisode two-parter with virtually no budget]] that ended up in the season as an artefact of the new production team's desire to abolish the 6-parter format, and the other was as an experiment to see if it was possible to do everything on video from then on. (It wasn't.)

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** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E3TheSontaranExperiment The Sontaran Experiment]]" was all shot on videotape despite being set entirely in a BBCQuarry. This was for several reasons - one was to save money as it was a [[BottleEpisode two-parter with virtually no budget]] that ended up in the season as an artefact artifact of the new production team's desire to abolish the 6-parter format, and the other was as an experiment to see if it was possible to do everything on video from then on. (It (Until 1986, it wasn't.)
30th Nov '16 4:01:30 PM CumbersomeTercel
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*** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E2TheCurseOfPeladon The Curse of Peladon]]", the arrival sequence outside the Citadel is shot on film despite being in the studio in order to give it the sense of being a real place.

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*** In "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E2TheCurseOfPeladon "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS9E2TheCurseOfPeladon The Curse of Peladon]]", the arrival sequence outside the Citadel is shot on film despite being in the studio in order to give it the sense of being a real place.
30th Nov '16 4:00:13 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* Future Creator/MontyPython members Terry Jones and Creator/MichaelPalin appeared in several late 1960s series using this technique for which only the film segments survive after the videotapes were wiped for re-use, including ''Twice a Fortnight'' and ''The Complete and Utter History of Britain''.

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* Future Creator/MontyPython members Terry Jones Creator/TerryJones and Creator/MichaelPalin appeared in several late 1960s series using this technique for which only the film segments survive after the videotapes were wiped for re-use, including ''Twice a Fortnight'' and ''The Complete and Utter History of Britain''.



** A sketch in which Graham Chapman's army officer character tries to halt a sketch that's on film. "You can't stop this sketch! We're on film!" "Well, that doesn't make any difference to the viewers at home, does it?"
** The sketch immediately following the first appearance of the Spanish Inquisition, where Graham is recruited by a BBC executive, played by John Cleese, to be TheStraightMan in another sketch. As they walk toward the location of the other sketch, Cleese observes that "We're on film at the moment."

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** A sketch in which Graham Chapman's Creator/GrahamChapman's army officer character tries to halt a sketch that's on film. "You can't stop this sketch! We're on film!" "Well, that doesn't make any difference to the viewers at home, does it?"
** The sketch immediately following the first appearance of the Spanish Inquisition, where Graham is recruited by a BBC executive, played by John Cleese, Creator/JohnCleese, to be TheStraightMan in another sketch. As they walk toward the location of the other sketch, Cleese observes that "We're on film at the moment."



** Due to a strike, the first Creator/JonPertwee story, "Spearhead from Space", was shot entirely in film. The result of this was that "Spearhead from Space" could be remastered for, and released on, Blu-Ray, which no other Classic ''Who'' will ever be able to be unless the EnhanceButton becomes reality.
** "Robot", The first Creator/TomBaker story, actually shot a handful of exterior scenes in video, to aid with the special effects needed in that serial.
** "The Sontaran Experiment" was all shot on videotape despite being set entirely in a BBCQuarry. This was for several reasons - one was to save money as it was a [[BottleEpisode two-parter with virtually no budget]] that ended up in the season as an artefact of the new production team's desire to abolish the 6-parter format, and the other was as an experiment to see if it was possible to do everything on video from then on. (It wasn't.)
** For the serial "Planet of Evil", interior scenes were videotaped in the studio and exterior scenes on the alien planet were filmed on location -- the location in question being another studio, namely Creator/EalingStudios, which required the use of film as opposed to videotape at the time.

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** Due to a strike, the first Creator/JonPertwee story, "Spearhead "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS7E1SpearheadFromSpace Spearhead from Space", Space]]", was shot entirely in film. The result of this was that "Spearhead from Space" could be remastered for, and released on, Blu-Ray, which no other Classic ''Who'' will ever be able to be unless the EnhanceButton becomes reality.
** "Robot", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E1Robot Robot]]", The first Creator/TomBaker story, actually shot a handful of exterior scenes in video, to aid with the special effects needed in that serial.
** "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E3TheSontaranExperiment The Sontaran Experiment" Experiment]]" was all shot on videotape despite being set entirely in a BBCQuarry. This was for several reasons - one was to save money as it was a [[BottleEpisode two-parter with virtually no budget]] that ended up in the season as an artefact of the new production team's desire to abolish the 6-parter format, and the other was as an experiment to see if it was possible to do everything on video from then on. (It wasn't.)
** For the serial "Planet "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E2PlanetOfEvil Planet of Evil", Evil]]", interior scenes were videotaped in the studio and exterior scenes on the alien planet were filmed on location -- the location in question being another studio, namely Creator/EalingStudios, which required the use of film as opposed to videotape at the time.



*** In "The Curse of Peladon", the arrival sequence outside the Citadel is shot on film despite being in the studio in order to give it the sense of being a real place.
*** In "The Deadly Assassin", reality is all video with smooth motion and bright (some would say rather lurid) colours. When the Doctor enters the {{Cyberspace}} nightmare-world, it's all film, including the few studio shots (such as the MiniatureEffects with the crocodile), with everything in a drab and muted, grainy colour palette (helped by the cheap and nasty-quality film) with the exception of the Doctor's [[EyeOpen ridiculously blue eyes]]. The whole effect is to indicate unrealness to everything there except for the Doctor's mind.
*** In the serial ''Snakedance'', a 'ritual' segment set in wilderness yet clearly produced in studio is shot on film to ''appear'' as if it had been shot outdoors. (And/or to subtly emphasise the trancelike nature of the ritual by introducing a visual disconnect.)

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*** In "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E2TheCurseOfPeladon The Curse of Peladon", Peladon]]", the arrival sequence outside the Citadel is shot on film despite being in the studio in order to give it the sense of being a real place.
*** In "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS14E3TheDeadlyAssassin The Deadly Assassin", Assassin]]", reality is all video with smooth motion and bright (some would say rather lurid) colours. When the Doctor enters the {{Cyberspace}} nightmare-world, it's all film, including the few studio shots (such as the MiniatureEffects with the crocodile), with everything in a drab and muted, grainy colour palette (helped by the cheap and nasty-quality film) with the exception of the Doctor's [[EyeOpen ridiculously blue eyes]]. The whole effect is to indicate unrealness to everything there except for the Doctor's mind.
*** In the serial ''Snakedance'', "[[Recao/DoctorWhoS20E2Snakedance Snakedance]]", a 'ritual' segment set in wilderness yet clearly produced in studio is shot on film to ''appear'' as if it had been shot outdoors. (And/or to subtly emphasise the trancelike nature of the ritual by introducing a visual disconnect.)
5th Oct '16 8:06:56 PM Scsigs
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* Easily the most distracting thing about ''Series/FullerHouse'' is when they use stock footage from its parent series, ''Series/FullHouse''. In the opening, when they reuse shots from the original opening of the original show for the women, it's painfully clear what was originally shot on film and what the shots are that are upconverted from the videotape masters the rest of the show was shot on. Then the episode as seen [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p6FYShbTBg here]]. Then there's the episode where they fill in the gaps of after Steve took DJ to their prom where they reuse the footage from that episode, then cut out the two of them when they kiss & put them against a high school wall to show them doing the same at their school. It ''really'' doesn't hold up to today's HD standards that well when you have something shot on video tape at 4:3 with a haze put around it that's then upconverted, then poorly put into a fame where the actors, shot in HD, at their current ages when filming are then green-screened into the same frame as that image. It's really jarring to watch.

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* Easily the most distracting thing about ''Series/FullerHouse'' is when they use stock footage from its parent series, ''Series/FullHouse''. In the opening, when they reuse shots from the original opening of the original show for the women, it's painfully clear what was originally shot on film and what the shots are that are upconverted from the videotape masters the rest of the show was shot on. Then the episode on as seen [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p6FYShbTBg here]]. Then there's the episode where they fill in the gaps of after Steve took DJ to their prom where they reuse the footage from that episode, then cut out the two of them when they kiss & put them against a high school wall to show them doing the same at their school. It ''really'' doesn't hold up to today's HD standards that well when you have something shot on video tape at 4:3 with a haze put around it that's then upconverted, then poorly put into a fame where the actors, shot in HD, at their current ages when filming are then green-screened into the same frame as that image. It's really jarring to watch.
5th Oct '16 8:05:44 PM Scsigs
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* Easily the most distracting thing about ''Series/FullerHouse'' is when they use stock footage from its parent series, ''Series/FullHouse''. In the opening, when they reuse shots from the original opening of the original show for the women, it's painfully clear what was originally shot on film and what the shots are that are upconverted from the videotape masters the rest of the show was shot on. Then the episode as seen [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p6FYShbTBg here]]. Then there's the episode where they fill in the gaps of after Steve took DJ to their prom where they reuse the footage from that episode, then cut out the two of them when they kiss & put them against a high school wall to show them doing the same at their school. It ''really'' doesn't hold up to today's HD standards that well when you have something shot on video tape at 4:3 with a haze put around it that's then upconverted, then poorly put into a fame where the actors, shot in HD, at their current ages when filming are then green-screened into the same frame as that image. It's really jarring to watch.
18th May '16 7:13:42 PM PaulA
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* Creator/NeilGaiman has blamed the failure of the original TV version of ''Series/{{Neverwhere}}'' on the fact that it was shot like this, which made it look cheap and childish compared to imported American SF/fantasy shows broadcast at the time. It had been intended to subject it to a "filmising" treatment, but this was abandoned for budgetary reasons.
18th May '16 9:08:42 AM LondonKdS
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* Creator/NeilGaiman has blamed the failure of the original TV version of ''Series/{{Neverwhere}}'' on the fact that it was shot like this, which made it look cheap and childish compared to imported American SF/fantasy shows broadcast at the time. It had been intended to subject it to a "filmising" treatment, but this was abandoned for budgetary reasons.
6th Feb '16 9:20:14 AM twilicorn
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* Happened during the early seasons of ''Series/YouCantDoThatOnTelevision'', excepting for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6pH4glSGIk one episode]] where the entire cast involved themselves with a huge Ottawa-based charity walk.
16th Jan '16 12:28:09 AM Anddrix
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** A sketch in which Graham Chapman's army officer character tries to halt a sketch that's on film. "You can't stop this sketch! We're on film!" [[ViewersAreMorons "Well, that doesn't make any difference to the viewers at home, does it?"]]

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** A sketch in which Graham Chapman's army officer character tries to halt a sketch that's on film. "You can't stop this sketch! We're on film!" [[ViewersAreMorons "Well, that doesn't make any difference to the viewers at home, does it?"]]it?"
24th Dec '15 4:59:25 PM nombretomado
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* ''Edward VIII'' (aka ''Edward the King'' in the USA). Because of the show's perceived prestige, as a CostumeDrama about the BritishRoyalFamily, the exterior footage was shot on more expensive but better quality 35mm.

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* ''Edward VIII'' (aka ''Edward the King'' in the USA). Because of the show's perceived prestige, as a CostumeDrama about the BritishRoyalFamily, UsefulNotes/TheBritishRoyalFamily, the exterior footage was shot on more expensive but better quality 35mm.
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