History Main / VictoryThroughIntimidation

17th Sep '17 11:26:30 AM nombretomado
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A SubTrope of TerrorHero. A SisterTrope to PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower, ToWinWithoutFighting and WhoWillBellTheCat. BystanderSyndrome covers non-combat examples where no individual in a group wants to be the one to step up. Compare and contrast IntimidationDemonstration.

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A SubTrope of TerrorHero. A SisterTrope to PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower, UsefulNotes/PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower, ToWinWithoutFighting and WhoWillBellTheCat. BystanderSyndrome covers non-combat examples where no individual in a group wants to be the one to step up. Compare and contrast IntimidationDemonstration.
16th Aug '17 9:34:41 PM marcoasalazarm
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* This trope is discussed and explicitly defied on ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' during the retelling of the Battle Of Yonkers. In a nutshell: an exposure of the total might of the United States military would make even the most fanatical of human soldiers hesitate (at least), but the zombies are TooDumbToFool (brain-dead, really); and when they see a massive military blockade; all they see is a smorgasbord of human flesh just standing there and ready to be eaten. If anything, [[EpicFail the zombies ended up]] [[RussianReversal intimidating the soldiers instead]].

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* This trope is discussed and explicitly defied on ''Literature/WorldWarZ'' during the retelling of the Battle Of Yonkers. In a nutshell: an exposure of the total might of the United States military would make even the most fanatical of human soldiers hesitate (at least), but the zombies are TooDumbToFool (brain-dead, really); and when they see a massive military blockade; all they see is a smorgasbord of human flesh just standing there and ready to be eaten.eaten, [[FearlessUndead and march towards it totally uncaring about the gunfire and explosions and casualties going off all around them]]. If anything, [[EpicFail the zombies ended up]] [[RussianReversal intimidating the soldiers instead]].
16th Aug '17 9:22:03 PM marcoasalazarm
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So it goes without saying that trying to use this tactic against a {{Determinator}} or similarly driven (or fanatical) enemy (or one that is able to point out the logic of their capacity to successfully execute a ZergRush ''and'' successfully makes the rest of the gang follow suit) with no means to back up said threats is a ''bad'' idea.

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So it goes without saying that trying to use this tactic against a {{Determinator}} or similarly driven (or fanatical) enemy (or one that is able to point out the logic of their capacity to successfully execute a ZergRush ''and'' successfully makes the rest of the gang follow suit) suit... or a group TooDumbToFool that is eager to knock your head off) with no means to back up said threats is a ''bad'' idea.
29th May '17 3:40:54 PM marcoasalazarm
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* On all versions of ''Film/TheTakingOfPelhamOneTwoThree'' one of the hostages says that they should all rush Mr. Grey (the hostage-takers' leader) and take him down, only for Mr. Grey to point out that he's armed with a top-of-the-line sub-machinegun and that, stuck inside of a subway car as they are, if they all were to rush him they would be all bunched together and vulnerable to his return fire. "...you would all be dead before you got close to me". None of them ever try.

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* On all versions of ''Film/TheTakingOfPelhamOneTwoThree'' one of the hostages says that they should all rush Mr. Grey (the hostage-takers' leader) and take him down, only for Mr. Grey to point out that he's armed with a top-of-the-line sub-machinegun and that, stuck inside of a subway car as they are, if they all were to rush him they would be all be bunched together and vulnerable to his return fire. "...you would all be dead before you got close to me". None of them ever try.
15th May '17 12:53:10 PM DarkHunter
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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode "The Pandorica Opens" features the speech at the top of the page. Ironically it's actually a subversion. After the Doctor gives the speech all the ships flying around in the sky head for the hills, but it turns out to be a bluff to lull the Doctor into believing they were running away when actually they were just waiting for the Pandorica to open so they could lock him inside of it.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'':
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The ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode "The Pandorica Opens" features the speech at the top of the page. Ironically it's actually a subversion. After the Doctor gives the speech all the ships flying around in the sky head for the hills, but it turns out to be a bluff to lull the Doctor into believing they were running away when actually they were just waiting for the Pandorica to open so they could lock him inside of it. This episode also demonstrates the downside to using fear to conquer one's foes: do it too much, and your enemies get pushed past the GodzillaThreshold and begin getting desperate... and desperation often leads to truly disastrous consequences.
28th Apr '17 10:22:11 AM marcoasalazarm
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* On all versions of ''Film/TheTakingOfPelhamOneTwoThree'' one of the hostages says that they should all rush Mr. Grey (the hostage-takers' leader) and take him down, only for Mr. Grey to point out that he's armed with a top-of-the-line sub-machinegun and that, stuck inside of a subway car as they are, if they all were to rush him they would be all bunched together and vulnerable to his return fire. "...you would all be dead before you got close to me". None of them ever try.
11th Apr '17 3:51:38 PM Nulono
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** River Song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNOFxMpgjXI gets her turn]] in "The Big Bang".
27th Mar '17 2:07:57 AM marcoasalazarm
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So it goes without saying that trying to use this tactic against a {{Determinator}} or similarly driven (or fanatical) enemy (or one that is able to point out the logic of their capacity to successfully execute a ZergRush) with no means to back up said threats is a 'bad'' idea.

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So it goes without saying that trying to use this tactic against a {{Determinator}} or similarly driven (or fanatical) enemy (or one that is able to point out the logic of their capacity to successfully execute a ZergRush) ZergRush ''and'' successfully makes the rest of the gang follow suit) with no means to back up said threats is a 'bad'' ''bad'' idea.
27th Mar '17 2:07:04 AM marcoasalazarm
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So it goes without saying that trying to use this tactic against a {{Determinator}} or similarly driven (or fanatical) enemy (or one that is able to point out the logic of their capacity to successfully execute a ZergRush) with no means to back up said threats is a 'bad'' idea.
11th Mar '17 10:43:44 PM Emperor_Oshron
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** Smart ''pirates'', usually [[PragmaticVillainy more interested in loot and profit than in a bloody battle]], would naturally try for this. In fact, this is reportedly Blackbeard's ENTIRE M.O.

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** Smart ''pirates'', usually [[PragmaticVillainy more interested in loot and profit than in a bloody battle]], would naturally try for this. In fact, this is reportedly Blackbeard's ENTIRE M.O. , cultivating stories and creating an absolutely demonic persona which involved tying cannon fuse into his hair and beard and lighting it so that smoke would come off him while he threatened and extorted people to give the impression that he was the Devil himself despite there being no records of him murdering or even harming ''any'' of the hostages he ever took. Considering his reputation as ''the'' pirate through to the present-day, it worked.
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