History Main / UnwantedFalseFaith

12th Jun '18 6:27:25 AM Berrenta
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** The first is when [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010:22-26&version=MSG when Cornelius meets Simon-Peter,]] he bows and worships him because of a vision he had earlier. The disciple quickly tells him to stop and explains he is only God's messenger.

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** The first is when [[https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010:22-26&version=MSG when Cornelius meets Simon-Peter,]] he bows and worships him because of a vision he had earlier. The disciple quickly tells him to stop and explains he is only God's messenger.



* [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} Muslims]] accept most of the story of UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} as told in the [[Literature/TheFourGospels Gospels]] as essentially true: the Virgin Birth, his status as the Biblical [[MessianicArchetype Messiah]], his ministry and miracles, his status as [[JesusWasWayCool a great prophet, moral teacher, healer, and one of the top-five greatest, purest human beings ever]], etc., etc. Muslims even accept a variant of the Crucifixion story (in this version, he never died; God took him up to Heaven bodily while still alive and fooled the Romans into executing a criminal lookalike in his place) and many believe in the Second Coming (where Jesus will either be the Mahdi or assist him... or perhaps the Mahdi will assist Jesus...it's all hazy, as eschatology usually is). However, Muslims do not accept that Jesus is God Himself; a prophet of God, yes, and a messenger of God, yes, and even a ''great'' prophet and messenger of God... but not God. This causes a conflict with Christianity: how can a true prophet of God claim to be God himself, when (according to Muslim theology) God would never do such a thing? The Islamic answer is that he did not want to be worshiped, [[note]]Several times, Jesus refers to "not me, but him who sent me"; he also says that when you welcome him, you welcome "him who sent me".[[/note]] clearly stated that he was just a prophet and should not be worshiped, but people worshiped him anyway, especially after the crucifixion. Thus, according to Islam, UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} is an UnwantedFalseFaith--which has caused some friction between the religions.

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* [[UsefulNotes/{{Islam}} Muslims]] accept most of the story of UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}} as told in the [[Literature/TheFourGospels Gospels]] as essentially true: the Virgin Birth, his status as the Biblical [[MessianicArchetype Messiah]], his ministry and miracles, his status as [[JesusWasWayCool a great prophet, moral teacher, healer, and one of the top-five greatest, purest human beings ever]], etc., etc. Muslims even accept a variant of the Crucifixion story (in this version, he never died; God took him up to Heaven bodily while still alive and fooled the Romans into executing a criminal lookalike in his place) and many believe in the Second Coming (where Jesus will either be the Mahdi or assist him... or perhaps the Mahdi will assist Jesus...it's all hazy, as eschatology usually is). However, Muslims do not accept that Jesus is God Himself; a prophet of God, yes, and a messenger of God, yes, and even a ''great'' prophet and messenger of God... but not God. This causes a conflict with Christianity: how can a true prophet of God claim to be God himself, when (according to Muslim theology) God would never do such a thing? The Islamic answer is that he did not want to be worshiped, [[note]]Several times, Jesus refers to "not me, but him who sent me"; he also says that when you welcome him, you welcome "him who sent me".[[/note]] clearly stated that he was just a prophet and should not be worshiped, but people worshiped him anyway, especially after the crucifixion. Thus, according to Islam, UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} is an UnwantedFalseFaith--which Unwanted False Faith--which has caused some friction between the religions.



** Its worth noting that not all Christians believe that Jesus is God; while this is certainly the largest Christian theology, many traditions, both extinct and extant, considered Jesus to be anywhere from a mortal prophet to something approaching an angel sent to earth as a prophet (which is the most accurate explanation that can be given of such theology without several thousand words of explanation).

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** Its It's worth noting that not all Christians believe that Jesus is God; while this is certainly the largest Christian theology, many traditions, both extinct and extant, considered Jesus to be anywhere from a mortal prophet to something approaching an angel sent to earth Earth as a prophet (which is the most accurate explanation that can be given of such theology without several thousand words of explanation).
13th May '18 3:23:15 PM Qrow
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* ''TableTopGame/MagicTheGathering'': In ''Return To Dominaria'', Jaya explains to Chandra how Keral Keep got started: in her own words she "went to Regatha, got drunk, said some things, and apparently performed some very impressive pyromancy, then came back two centuries later to discover they'd based a religion around [her]." She's actually rather embarrassed about the whole thing. Downplayed in that they don't really worship her as a god (though, since this was pre-mending, she arguably ''was'' one at the time). Also, she [[spoiler: actually stuck around to make sure they didn't misinterpret her words, posing as a regular nun named Mother Luti]].
6th May '18 4:09:01 AM Medinoc
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* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Kat is able to activate (and de-activate) some of the old Court robots. To the modern robots, it looks as though she has the power to [[http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=898 grant life and then take it away]]. However, it has been has been strongly implied that the robots' belief that Kat is [[spoiler:an angel]] might not be so false after all. [[spoiler:Kat looks like a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent vaguely angelic]] EldritchAbomination made of metal through Zimmy's eyes.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Kat is able to activate (and de-activate) some of the old Court robots. To the modern robots, it looks as though she has the power to [[http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=898 grant life and then take it away]]. However, it has been has been strongly implied that the robots' belief that Kat is [[spoiler:an angel]] might not be so false after all. [[spoiler:Kat [[spoiler:Kat's etheric form, as seen first through Zimmy's eyes and later by Annie, looks like a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent vaguely angelic]] EldritchAbomination made of metal through Zimmy's eyes.metal.]]
1st May '18 11:30:43 AM Theriocephalus
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* ''Fanfic/TheLifeAndTimesOfAWinningPony'': Shadow Kicker, a legendary leader of the Kicker clan from the days of the ancient Lunar Rebellion, is the focus of a widespread cult in both the modern clan and the military dedicated to adoring her as a semi-religious figure and exemplar. Shadow herself deeply disliked regular hero worship, and liked actual worship of herself even less. It's noted that the cult only took off after Shadow was too dead to do anything about it and, even in her modern day, her lingering spirit clearly dislikes being referred to by her religious honorific of "Honored Shadow".



* Feral animals worship Zach from ''Webcomic/{{Housepets}}'' as the Opener of Ways, much to his annoyance. They even steal his diary to copy into a sacred text.
** Said faith is not entirely false. Pete the gryphon, who is an actual demigod has confirmed that Zach really is a prophet, or he was before the U&U game ended.

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* Feral animals worship Zach from ''Webcomic/{{Housepets}}'' as the Opener of Ways, much to his annoyance. They even steal his diary to copy into a sacred text.
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text. Said faith is not entirely false. Pete the gryphon, who is an actual demigod demigod, has confirmed that Zach really is a prophet, or he was before the U&U ''U&U'' game ended.



* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Kat is able to activate (and de-activate) some of the old Court robots. To the modern robots, it looks as though she has the power to [[http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=898 grant life and then take it away.]]
** However, it has been has been strongly implied that the robots' belief that Kat is [[spoiler:an angel]] might not be so false after all. [[spoiler:Kat looks like a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent vaguely angelic]] EldritchAbomination made of metal through Zimmy's eyes.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Kat is able to activate (and de-activate) some of the old Court robots. To the modern robots, it looks as though she has the power to [[http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=898 grant life and then take it away.]]
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away]]. However, it has been has been strongly implied that the robots' belief that Kat is [[spoiler:an angel]] might not be so false after all. [[spoiler:Kat looks like a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent vaguely angelic]] EldritchAbomination made of metal through Zimmy's eyes.]]
15th Mar '18 8:20:09 AM LondonKdS
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* G'Kar from ''Series/BabylonFive'' is treated like a prophet by the Narn during the final season due to the book he had been writing about his experiences accidentally being published without his consent and spreading like wildfire (it even outsells the Book of G'Quan, a previous example of this trope). Crowds of followers followed him everywhere he went asking for his wisdom on all sorts of deep questions. He grows increasingly disillusioned by this treatment for a few reasons: he doesn't want to hold that much power among his people (he had turned down the position of president earlier in the show), he doesn't have the answers they're looking for, and he sees that everyone is projecting their ideals of a perfect person onto him, creating this idealized person that's not actually him. It also doesn't help that the book was released unfinished, and early chapters contain ideas he had since rejected but hadn't edited yet which now get thrown in his face by his own followers. Eventually he decides to leave civilized space for several years to get away from it all.

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* G'Kar from ''Series/BabylonFive'' is treated like a prophet by the Narn during the final season due to the book he had been writing about his experiences accidentally being published without his consent and spreading like wildfire (it even outsells the Book of G'Quan, a previous example of this trope). Crowds of followers followed him everywhere he went asking for his wisdom on all sorts of deep questions. He grows increasingly disillusioned by this treatment for a few reasons: he doesn't want to hold that much power among his people (he had turned down the position of president earlier in the show), he doesn't have the answers they're looking for, and he sees that everyone is projecting their ideals of a perfect person onto him, creating this idealized person that's not actually him. It also doesn't help that the book was released unfinished, and early chapters contain ideas he had since rejected but hadn't edited yet which now get thrown in his face by his own followers. Things reach their nadir when a rejected worshipper turns into a LoonyFan and tries to kill him, accidentally seriously injuring an innocent bystander. Eventually he decides to leave civilized space for several years to get away from it all.
16th Feb '18 8:03:19 PM karstovich2
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* It is widely believed that Haile Selassie I had this attitude toward the Rastafari movement, which views him as God incarnate, as this belief contradicts the doctrine of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church that he was affiliated with. However, he never specifically denied his divinity, saying "Who am I to disturb their belief?" [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Whether this faith is false or not is best discussed elsewhere]].

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* It is widely believed that Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie I had this attitude toward the Rastafari movement, which views him as God incarnate, as this belief contradicts the doctrine of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church that he Church; Haile Selassie was affiliated with.known to be a fairly devout Ethiopian Orthodox Christian. However, he never specifically denied his divinity, saying "Who am I to disturb their belief?" [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement Whether this faith is false or not is best discussed elsewhere]].
11th Feb '18 2:51:41 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* G'Kar from ''Series/BabylonFive'' is treated like a prophet by the Narn during the final season due to the book he had been writing about his experiences accidentally being published without his consent and spreading like wildfire (it even outsells the Book of G'Quan, a previous example of this trope). Crowds of followers followed him everywhere he went asking for his wisdom on all sorts of deep questions. He grows increasingly disillusioned by this treatment for a few reasons: he doesn't want to hold that much power among his people (he had turned down the position of president earlier in the show), he doesn't have the answers they're looking for, and he sees that everyone is projecting their ideals of a perfect person onto him, creating this idealized person that's not actually him. Eventually he decides to leave civilized space for several years to get away from it all.

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* G'Kar from ''Series/BabylonFive'' is treated like a prophet by the Narn during the final season due to the book he had been writing about his experiences accidentally being published without his consent and spreading like wildfire (it even outsells the Book of G'Quan, a previous example of this trope). Crowds of followers followed him everywhere he went asking for his wisdom on all sorts of deep questions. He grows increasingly disillusioned by this treatment for a few reasons: he doesn't want to hold that much power among his people (he had turned down the position of president earlier in the show), he doesn't have the answers they're looking for, and he sees that everyone is projecting their ideals of a perfect person onto him, creating this idealized person that's not actually him. It also doesn't help that the book was released unfinished, and early chapters contain ideas he had since rejected but hadn't edited yet which now get thrown in his face by his own followers. Eventually he decides to leave civilized space for several years to get away from it all.
3rd Feb '18 1:18:38 PM Xtifr
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* The history of the [[TheKingdom Boron]] in the ''[[VideoGame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'' series features an amusing incident on the [[SapientCetaceans Wenendra]] homeworld. During FirstContact the Wenendra thought the Boron were at least affiliated with their creator deity, due largely to the Boron being {{sufficiently advanced|aliens}} compared to the primitive Wenendra. The Boron had some trouble convincing them this wasn't the case.

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* The history of the [[TheKingdom [[TheGoodKingdom Boron]] in the ''[[VideoGame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'' series features an amusing incident on the [[SapientCetaceans Wenendra]] homeworld. During FirstContact the Wenendra thought the Boron were at least affiliated with their creator deity, due largely to the Boron being {{sufficiently advanced|aliens}} compared to the primitive Wenendra. The Boron had some trouble convincing them this wasn't the case.
31st Jan '18 4:59:33 AM StFan
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* In ''{{ComicBook/Fables}}'', Boy Blue only wanted to be a regular guy. He became a war hero out of necessity, but hated the cruelty and slaughter that war entails and really preferred to simply be an office clerk. One of the main reasons he participated in the war effort was his hatred for tyranny. [[spoiler:After his death]], a cult springs up around him. His worshipers long for him to come back as a bloodsoaked tyrant slaughtering all who stand in his way and indulge in the most blatant and unfair forms of nepotism. Of course, they consider this a good thing, using rhetorics very similar to how [[BigBad the Adversary]] justified his own reign of terror.

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* In ''{{ComicBook/Fables}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Fables}}'', Boy Blue only wanted to be a regular guy. He became a war hero out of necessity, but hated the cruelty and slaughter that war entails and really preferred to simply be an office clerk. One of the main reasons he participated in the war effort was his hatred for tyranny. [[spoiler:After his death]], a cult springs up around him. His worshipers long for him to come back as a bloodsoaked tyrant slaughtering all who stand in his way and indulge in the most blatant and unfair forms of nepotism. Of course, they consider this a good thing, using rhetorics very similar to how [[BigBad the Adversary]] justified his own reign of terror.



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* Played with in a ''ComicStrip/BrewsterRockitSpaceGuy'' strip in which [[TheMenInBlack Agent X]] explains an ancient drawing as the story of an alien visitor who was worshipped as a god, tried to explain to the primitive humans that he was ''not'' a god, and found himself pelted with stones for espousing this heresy.
* One Creator/GahanWilson cartoon has a psychiatrist down on his knees kissing his patient's hand, as the patient growls "This is ''not'' going to help my Messianic complex, doctor!"
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* Played with in a ''ComicStrip/BrewsterRockitSpaceGuy'' strip in which [[TheMenInBlack Agent X]] explains an ancient drawing as the story of an alien visitor who was worshipped as a god, tried to explain to the primitive humans that he was ''not'' a god, and found himself pelted with stones for espousing this heresy.
* One Creator/GahanWilson cartoon has a psychiatrist down on his knees kissing his patient's hand, as the patient growls "This is ''not'' going to help my Messianic complex, doctor!"
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* Played with in a ''ComicStrip/BrewsterRockitSpaceGuy'' strip in which [[TheMenInBlack Agent X]] explains an ancient drawing as the story of an alien visitor who was worshipped as a god, tried to explain to the primitive humans that he was ''not'' a god, and found himself pelted with stones for espousing this heresy.
* One Creator/GahanWilson cartoon has a psychiatrist down on his knees kissing his patient's hand, as the patient growls "This is ''not'' going to help my Messianic complex, doctor!"
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', Original Vault Hunter, Lilith, is disturbed (and flattered) when she finds out a cult is worshipping her as a fire goddess. She sends the new Vault Hunters on a mission to see if the cultists are too dangerous to let live. For a while, it seems that they just want to be burned to death, and seem happy enough to limit their attention to each other, [[spoiler:but when it turns out they have kidnapped "heretics" from Sanctuary to be burned as sacrifice, she steps in to rescue the would-be sacrifices while the Vault Hunters finish off the cult. [[HereWeGoAgain This, in turn, creates a new cult that worships the Vault Hunters]]. Player reactions may vary.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', ''VideoGame/Borderlands2'', Original Vault Hunter, Lilith, is disturbed (and flattered) when she finds out a cult is worshipping her as a fire goddess. She sends the new Vault Hunters on a mission to see if the cultists are too dangerous to let live. For a while, it seems that they just want to be burned to death, and seem happy enough to limit their attention to each other, [[spoiler:but when it turns out they have kidnapped "heretics" from Sanctuary to be burned as sacrifice, she steps in to rescue the would-be sacrifices while the Vault Hunters finish off the cult. [[HereWeGoAgain This, in turn, creates a new cult that worships the Vault Hunters]]. Player reactions may vary.]]



* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', Harold is being worshipped by a cult, much to his annoyance.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', ''VideoGame/Fallout3'', Harold is being worshipped by a cult, much to his annoyance.



20th Jan '18 11:52:13 AM Willbyr
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