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** [[TypeCasting/BothGenders Both genders]]



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!!!Both genders
* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/DeepRoy, Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro, and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, as most of his non-[[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] characters merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all, instead of dwarfism being a primary character trait.
* Genre roles have a reputation for pigeonholing actors forever. Chalk it up to the SciFiGhetto. If you become famous for a role in a sci-fi show or movie, accept the fact that you'll get no work, especially in {{Film}} or LiveActionTV, except in guest spots that [[AdamWesting are parodies of your most famous role.]]
-->'''[[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/screamers-the-hunting-sheldon-wilson-2009/ Miles Antwiler]]:''' ''I also think we all need to give up on the idea of Creator/LanceHenriksen “starring” in any movies anymore. The man is the Creator/JohnCarradine of the new millennium. He will just show up for five minutes to any movie offering craft services. Chuck a few free tacos his way and BAM he will show up to your nephew’s bar mitzvah. I just assume he is in every crappy Scifi movie from now on. Yeah, as you can guess, he shows up for five minutes grunts out a few lines and collects his paycheck ([[AdvertisedExtra despite being top billed]]).''
** Especially seen with actors who appeared on ''Franchise/StarTrek''. Many of them wound up becoming directors like Jonathan Frakes, Roxanne Dawson or [=LeVar=] Burton (each of whom directed episodes of ''Star Trek''). Frakes frequently casts ''Star Trek'' alums in his projects, like ''Series/{{Leverage}}''. (Does this count as an improvement?) And it's doubly bad if you're an ''actress'' known for a role on Trek.
-->'''[[http://www.startrek.com/article/ds9s-major-kira-nerys-nana-visitor-part-2 Nana Visitor]]:''' I was in my 40’s, being put out in the world. And if you think about it, I was a Star Trek actor, in my 40’s, female, and it was hard not to think, 'This is '''not''' going to be good.'
** Creator/PatrickStewart has been able to avoid the Trek curse; sure, his other major mainstream role is Professor X in the ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' film continuity, but outside of film, he is a very, ''very'' respected Shakespearean actor, one of the finest of his generation. On the other hand, Sir Pat has faced typecasting in another way: He's stuck playing slogan-spewing, patriarchal old men, something his contemporaries (like Malcolm [=McDowell=]) enjoy ribbing him about.
** [[Creator/WilliamShatner Shatner]] isn't so much typecast in SciFi as he is typecast as [[LargeHam him]][[ChewingTheScenery self]]. Doesn't seem to bother him, though, and he does it well.
*** It wasn't until TheEighties with ''Series/TJHooker'' that he had any success as a character actor outside ''Franchise/StarTrek''. Nimoy gave up altogether, which some might consider a miscarriage of justice.
** Creator/JohnDeLancie as a field reporter in ''Without Warning: Fire from the Sky'' rather quickly shattered the effect they were going for (a spiritual homage to ''Radio/TheWarOfTheWorlds''). He did, however, play a poignant role on ''Series/BreakingBad'' as Krysten Ritter's grieving father.
** However, if you count voice acting as serious, a number of ''Next Generation'' actors found their way into ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. [=JDL=] also got to voice [[WesternAnimation/JonnyQuestTheNewAdventures Benton Quest]]. Uh-huh, a flat-out ''good'' guy.
** Creator/LeVarBurton has a few other well-known roles. He played Kunta Kinte in ''Series/{{Roots}}'', voiced Kwame in ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'', and was the host of ''Series/ReadingRainbow''.
** Poor Creator/DeForestKelley, on the other hand, jumped from one type of Type Casting (villains in [[TheWestern Western]] movies and shows) to another (he would never do a well-known role again after being cast as Dr. [=McCoy=]). However, he was the only major ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' cast member who never bitched about it.
** Creator/MichelleForbes managed to avoid falling victim to this. After her recurring role as Ro Laren on [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration ST:TNG]] she went on to play Dr. Julianna Cox on ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'', Lynne Kresge on ''Series/TwentyFour'', Samantha Brinker on ''Series/PrisonBreak'', and Maryann Forrester on ''Series/TrueBlood'', to name just a handful.
** The main actors in the 2009 reboot have thus far avoided the problem because they were already well known for other roles, and/or very quickly after the movies release had other projects playing very different roles.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'' tends to have permanent effects on anyone who played the Doctor. Traditionally, the show has had a "Three-Year Rule" of actors exiting the lead role to avoid being typecast in the future. This tradition began with Creator/PatrickTroughton (in 1969!), who eventually gave up and realized that ''he would always be'' The Doctor. Quite literally, as he died in-costume.
** Creator/TomBaker, the longest-serving and most iconic Doctor, struggled with this severely after leaving the role. The first thing he did to break out of the role was to alter his appearance by cutting his [[MemeticHair iconic curls]] off, reacting with exaggerated CreatorBacklash to his role, and swearing a lot on television, but it didn't work. Most of his later roles have been things that have related in some way to the Doctor, such as playing Oscar Wilde and Sherlock Holmes (his Doctor was based somewhat on Wilde, and he even did a Holmes-pastiche episode), although he gets decent work as a voiceover artist on adverts and so on thanks to his famously pleasant voice. On the bright side, he loved being the Doctor, has said that the role 'saved' him, and mentioned in his 80th birthday interview that [[IAmNotLeonardNimoy everyone in his village calls him "Doctor", which he enjoys]].
** In a rumour perhaps inspired by the sad tale of Tom Baker, Creator/ChristopherEccleston was announced to have left after only one season to avoid this, though he later revealed he'd left because he'd witnessed directors bullying crew-members and overworking his costar Creator/BilliePiper, and he felt that staying in the role could not be morally justified. That, and few people believed the revival would last past one season.
** This is one reason why the Creator/BigFinish audios are so beneficial: It's a quick paycheck for people who contributed a lot to the classic series, something which doesn't involve milling about conventions like pandas at a zoo.
* The main characters of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars'' are typecast since their previous roles, as pointed out in a ''Webcomic/CtrlAltDel'' comic.
* Creator/QuintonFlynn seems to voice three kinds of characters: [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Badasses]], [[Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren comedic villains]], or just plain Ax Crazy [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII pyromaniacs]].
* Like above with Creator/MarleeMatlin, if you have any disability whatsoever, your character is usually tied to that disability, and is the focus of the episode if you're a guest star. See DisabledCharacterDisabledActor for more of these.
* After starring in ''Film/AHardDaysNight'', Music/TheBeatles couldn't avoid getting written as [[RealLifeWritesThePlot slightly exaggerated versions of their real-life personalities]] in subsequent movies. Music/RingoStarr, who went on to have a fairly successful acting career, used to say that he'd like to [[PlayingAgainstType play a villain just to shake things up]]. When the band were still making movies together, he even suggested that he and Paul [=McCartney=], commonly considered the sweetest Beatles, play ThoseTwoBadGuys.
* ''Website/{{Cracked}}'''s [[http://www.cracked.com/article_20208_6-actors-who-play-exact-same-role-in-multiple-movies.html 6 Actors Who Play the Exact Same Role in Multiple Movies]] mentions similarities among multiple roles of Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Connelly, James Earl Jones, and more.
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!!!Both genders
* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/DeepRoy, Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro, and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, as most of his non-[[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] characters merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all, instead of dwarfism being a primary character trait.
* Genre roles have a reputation for pigeonholing actors forever. Chalk it up to the SciFiGhetto. If you become famous for a role in a sci-fi show or movie, accept the fact that you'll get no work, especially in {{Film}} or LiveActionTV, except in guest spots that [[AdamWesting are parodies of your most famous role.]]
-->'''[[http://moviemoses.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/screamers-the-hunting-sheldon-wilson-2009/ Miles Antwiler]]:''' ''I also think we all need to give up on the idea of Creator/LanceHenriksen “starring” in any movies anymore. The man is the Creator/JohnCarradine of the new millennium. He will just show up for five minutes to any movie offering craft services. Chuck a few free tacos his way and BAM he will show up to your nephew’s bar mitzvah. I just assume he is in every crappy Scifi movie from now on. Yeah, as you can guess, he shows up for five minutes grunts out a few lines and collects his paycheck ([[AdvertisedExtra despite being top billed]]).''
** Especially seen with actors who appeared on ''Franchise/StarTrek''. Many of them wound up becoming directors like Jonathan Frakes, Roxanne Dawson or [=LeVar=] Burton (each of whom directed episodes of ''Star Trek''). Frakes frequently casts ''Star Trek'' alums in his projects, like ''Series/{{Leverage}}''. (Does this count as an improvement?) And it's doubly bad if you're an ''actress'' known for a role on Trek.
-->'''[[http://www.startrek.com/article/ds9s-major-kira-nerys-nana-visitor-part-2 Nana Visitor]]:''' I was in my 40’s, being put out in the world. And if you think about it, I was a Star Trek actor, in my 40’s, female, and it was hard not to think, 'This is '''not''' going to be good.'
** Creator/PatrickStewart has been able to avoid the Trek curse; sure, his other major mainstream role is Professor X in the ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' film continuity, but outside of film, he is a very, ''very'' respected Shakespearean actor, one of the finest of his generation. On the other hand, Sir Pat has faced typecasting in another way: He's stuck playing slogan-spewing, patriarchal old men, something his contemporaries (like Malcolm [=McDowell=]) enjoy ribbing him about.
** [[Creator/WilliamShatner Shatner]] isn't so much typecast in SciFi as he is typecast as [[LargeHam him]][[ChewingTheScenery self]]. Doesn't seem to bother him, though, and he does it well.
*** It wasn't until TheEighties with ''Series/TJHooker'' that he had any success as a character actor outside ''Franchise/StarTrek''. Nimoy gave up altogether, which some might consider a miscarriage of justice.
** Creator/JohnDeLancie as a field reporter in ''Without Warning: Fire from the Sky'' rather quickly shattered the effect they were going for (a spiritual homage to ''Radio/TheWarOfTheWorlds''). He did, however, play a poignant role on ''Series/BreakingBad'' as Krysten Ritter's grieving father.
** However, if you count voice acting as serious, a number of ''Next Generation'' actors found their way into ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. [=JDL=] also got to voice [[WesternAnimation/JonnyQuestTheNewAdventures Benton Quest]]. Uh-huh, a flat-out ''good'' guy.
** Creator/LeVarBurton has a few other well-known roles. He played Kunta Kinte in ''Series/{{Roots}}'', voiced Kwame in ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'', and was the host of ''Series/ReadingRainbow''.
** Poor Creator/DeForestKelley, on the other hand, jumped from one type of Type Casting (villains in [[TheWestern Western]] movies and shows) to another (he would never do a well-known role again after being cast as Dr. [=McCoy=]). However, he was the only major ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' cast member who never bitched about it.
** Creator/MichelleForbes managed to avoid falling victim to this. After her recurring role as Ro Laren on [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration ST:TNG]] she went on to play Dr. Julianna Cox on ''Series/HomicideLifeOnTheStreet'', Lynne Kresge on ''Series/TwentyFour'', Samantha Brinker on ''Series/PrisonBreak'', and Maryann Forrester on ''Series/TrueBlood'', to name just a handful.
** The main actors in the 2009 reboot have thus far avoided the problem because they were already well known for other roles, and/or very quickly after the movies release had other projects playing very different roles.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'' tends to have permanent effects on anyone who played the Doctor. Traditionally, the show has had a "Three-Year Rule" of actors exiting the lead role to avoid being typecast in the future. This tradition began with Creator/PatrickTroughton (in 1969!), who eventually gave up and realized that ''he would always be'' The Doctor. Quite literally, as he died in-costume.
** Creator/TomBaker, the longest-serving and most iconic Doctor, struggled with this severely after leaving the role. The first thing he did to break out of the role was to alter his appearance by cutting his [[MemeticHair iconic curls]] off, reacting with exaggerated CreatorBacklash to his role, and swearing a lot on television, but it didn't work. Most of his later roles have been things that have related in some way to the Doctor, such as playing Oscar Wilde and Sherlock Holmes (his Doctor was based somewhat on Wilde, and he even did a Holmes-pastiche episode), although he gets decent work as a voiceover artist on adverts and so on thanks to his famously pleasant voice. On the bright side, he loved being the Doctor, has said that the role 'saved' him, and mentioned in his 80th birthday interview that [[IAmNotLeonardNimoy everyone in his village calls him "Doctor", which he enjoys]].
** In a rumour perhaps inspired by the sad tale of Tom Baker, Creator/ChristopherEccleston was announced to have left after only one season to avoid this, though he later revealed he'd left because he'd witnessed directors bullying crew-members and overworking his costar Creator/BilliePiper, and he felt that staying in the role could not be morally justified. That, and few people believed the revival would last past one season.
** This is one reason why the Creator/BigFinish audios are so beneficial: It's a quick paycheck for people who contributed a lot to the classic series, something which doesn't involve milling about conventions like pandas at a zoo.
* The main characters of ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberiumWars'' are typecast since their previous roles, as pointed out in a ''Webcomic/CtrlAltDel'' comic.
* Creator/QuintonFlynn seems to voice three kinds of characters: [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Badasses]], [[Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren comedic villains]], or just plain Ax Crazy [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII pyromaniacs]].
* Like above with Creator/MarleeMatlin, if you have any disability whatsoever, your character is usually tied to that disability, and is the focus of the episode if you're a guest star. See DisabledCharacterDisabledActor for more of these.
* After starring in ''Film/AHardDaysNight'', Music/TheBeatles couldn't avoid getting written as [[RealLifeWritesThePlot slightly exaggerated versions of their real-life personalities]] in subsequent movies. Music/RingoStarr, who went on to have a fairly successful acting career, used to say that he'd like to [[PlayingAgainstType play a villain just to shake things up]]. When the band were still making movies together, he even suggested that he and Paul [=McCartney=], commonly considered the sweetest Beatles, play ThoseTwoBadGuys.
* ''Website/{{Cracked}}'''s [[http://www.cracked.com/article_20208_6-actors-who-play-exact-same-role-in-multiple-movies.html 6 Actors Who Play the Exact Same Role in Multiple Movies]] mentions similarities among multiple roles of Keanu Reeves, Jennifer Connelly, James Earl Jones, and more.
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* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/DeepRoy, Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro, and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, as most of his non-[[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] characters merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all, instead of dwarfism being a primary characteristic of their character.

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* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/DeepRoy, Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro, and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, as most of his non-[[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] characters merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all, instead of dwarfism being a primary characteristic of their character.character trait.
26th Mar '16 1:13:14 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/DeepRoy, Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, playing characters who merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all instead of being a primary characteristic of their character. [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister is one of the few exceptions.]]

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* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/DeepRoy, Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro Fondacaro, and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, playing as most of his non-[[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister]] characters who merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all all, instead of dwarfism being a primary characteristic of their character. [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister is one of the few exceptions.]]
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* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, playing characters who merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all instead of being a primary characteristic of their character. [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister is one of the few exceptions.]]

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* Actors with dwarfism, like Creator/DeepRoy, Creator/WarwickDavis, Kenny Baker, Verne Troyer, Tony Cox, Phil Fondacaro and Creator/PattyMaloney, are always stuck doing fantasy or sci-fi films (often inside alien or robot outifts) because that's the only roles they can get. David Rappaport most likely suffered from depression because of this, which probably led to him being DrivenToSuicide. Ditto for Hervé Villechaize. Creator/PeterDinklage has been breaking this trend, playing characters who merely happen to have dwarfism if the subject comes up at all instead of being a primary characteristic of their character. [[Series/GameOfThrones Tyrion Lannister is one of the few exceptions.]]
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