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21st Nov '16 10:55:42 PM CJO123
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* '''Harsh''' (or ''Tsun''): These Tsundere have ''tsuntsun'' as their default mood. It takes someone special to trigger their deredere side. The intensity of the tsuntsun can range from "I must glare and fight my way through life" (Louise of ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'') to grumpy pessimism (Kagami of ''Manga/LuckyStar''). It's about which part of the tsundere personality is the public face and which the hidden. If the Tsundere is TheRival, she is more likely to be Harsh. [[RivalsTeamUp Helping a rival out]] is usually accompanied by a line like "Don't get me wrong, [[IWasJustPassingThrough I'm not doing this for you]]." \\

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* '''Harsh''' (or ''Tsun''): These Tsundere have ''tsuntsun'' as their default mood. It takes someone special to trigger their deredere side. The intensity of the tsuntsun can range from simple grumpy pessimism (Kagami of ''Manga/LuckyStar'') to "I must glare and fight my way through life" (Louise of ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'') to grumpy pessimism (Kagami of ''Manga/LuckyStar'').''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero''). It's about which part of the tsundere personality is the public face and which the hidden. If the Tsundere is TheRival, she is more likely to be Harsh. [[RivalsTeamUp Helping a rival out]] is usually accompanied by a line like "Don't get me wrong, [[IWasJustPassingThrough I'm not doing this for you]]." \\
7th Oct '16 12:23:37 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* '''Sweet''' (or ''Dere''): These Tsundere have ''deredere'' as their default mood. They are [[NiceGuy sweet, kind and generous]], but just happen to have a [[PervertRevengeMode hidden violent]] [[UnprovokedPervertPayback side as well]]. In this case, temper is almost always triggered by someone or something else, usually a LoveInterest. Either they have BelligerentSexualTension, are an AccidentalPervert, or just have no idea how to [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove handle feelings of love and attraction]]. May also overlap with ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend if her LoveInterest is threatened or in danger. \\

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* '''Sweet''' (or ''Dere''): These Tsundere have ''deredere'' as their default mood. They are [[NiceGuy sweet, kind and generous]], but just happen to have a [[PervertRevengeMode hidden violent]] [[UnprovokedPervertPayback side as well]]. In this case, temper is almost always triggered by someone or something else, usually a LoveInterest. Either they have BelligerentSexualTension, are an AccidentalPervert, or just have no idea how to [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove handle feelings of love and attraction]]. In some cases, an ArmouredClosetGay character may act like a Tsundere to mask their feelings for the object of their same-sex affection. May also overlap with ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend if her LoveInterest is threatened or in danger. \\
20th Jun '16 12:49:24 AM Anufenrir
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[[caption-width-right:330:Stupid wiki! I'm only editing you because you asked nicely, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial n-not because I like you.]] S-so don't get the [[NotWhatItLooksLike wrong idea]], got it?!]]

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[[caption-width-right:330:Stupid wiki! I'm only editing you because you asked nicely, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial n-not because I like you.]] S-so don't get the [[NotWhatItLooksLike wrong idea]], got it?!]]
it?! Baka!]]
1st Mar '16 8:24:39 PM Eievie
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Harsh types can overlap with a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, but usually not. The moods of a Tsundere tend to switch in reaction to the actions of select people or adverse scenarios; the deredere side usually only comes out when someone has acted in a way to trigger it. A JerkWithAHeartOfGold is jerkish in general regardless of whether the other person is mean or nice, and shows their HiddenHeartOfGold only when the situation warrants, regardless of how the other person had been acting. Male characters in particular should be considered for JerkWithAHeartOfGold status, as arguably because of {{Double Standard}}s, men are generally that instead of tsundere, although the {{kuudere}} subtype is more equally split in gender. Oranyan is sometimes used to refer to a male tsundere character - incorrectly since it means the complete opposite.

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Harsh types can overlap with a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, but usually not. The moods of a Tsundere tend to switch in reaction to the actions of select people or adverse scenarios; the deredere side usually only comes out when someone has acted in a way to trigger it. A JerkWithAHeartOfGold is jerkish in general regardless of whether the other person is mean or nice, and shows their HiddenHeartOfGold only when the situation warrants, regardless of how the other person had been acting. Male characters in particular should be considered for JerkWithAHeartOfGold status, as arguably because of {{Double Standard}}s, men are generally that instead of tsundere, although the {{kuudere}} subtype is more equally split in gender. Oranyan is sometimes used to refer to a male tsundere character - incorrectly character--incorrectly since it means the complete opposite.
23rd Dec '15 3:18:53 PM Tuckerscreator
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The term was originally used to describe characters who began with a harsh outgoing personality, but [[CharacterDevelopment slowly revealed]] a soft and vulnerable interior over time. Over the years the character archetype has become [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]], and is now [[StockCharacter generically associated]] with a character who flips between the two emotional states at the slightest provocation, and usually at a specific person rather than a general sociability problem.

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The term was originally used to describe characters who began with a harsh outgoing personality, but [[CharacterDevelopment slowly revealed]] [[DefrostingIceQueen a soft and vulnerable interior over time.time]]. Over the years the character archetype has become [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]], and is now [[StockCharacter generically associated]] with a character who flips between the two emotional states at the slightest provocation, and usually at a specific person rather than a general sociability problem.
22nd Nov '15 11:39:25 PM MechWarrior
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When paired with a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, together they produce BelligerentSexualTension. If done poorly, the result is an UnintentionallyUnsympathetic JerkSue. Compare with WellExcuseMePrincess, JerkAss, and JerkWithAHeartOfGold. Contrast with SourOutsideSadInside, which shares the spiky exterior but has depression and self-doubt rather than kindness hiding underneath. When {{Flanderized}} tends to overlap with MoodSwinger. Also see DontYouDarePityMe and AngerBornOfWorry; both of them likely actions with this character type. AloofAlly may show the same hot-and-cold behavior but for differing reasons. ShanaClone is a specific subtrope with a particular set of characteristics. Because of their low tolerance for stupidity, they are always EnragedByIdiocy.

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When paired with a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, together they produce BelligerentSexualTension. If done poorly, the result is an UnintentionallyUnsympathetic JerkSue. Compare with WellExcuseMePrincess, JerkAss, {{Jerkass}}, and JerkWithAHeartOfGold. Contrast with SourOutsideSadInside, which shares the spiky exterior but has depression and self-doubt rather than kindness hiding underneath. When {{Flanderized}} tends to overlap with MoodSwinger. Also see DontYouDarePityMe and AngerBornOfWorry; both of them likely actions with this character type. AloofAlly may show the same hot-and-cold behavior but for differing reasons. ShanaClone is a specific subtrope with a particular set of characteristics. Because of their low tolerance for stupidity, they are always EnragedByIdiocy.
22nd Nov '15 11:38:38 PM MechWarrior
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* '''Sweet''' (or ''Dere''): These Tsundere have ''deredere'' as their default mood. They are [[NiceGirl sweet, kind and generous]], but just happen to have a [[PervertRevengeMode hidden violent]] [[UnprovokedPervertPayback side as well]]. In this case, temper is almost always triggered by someone or something else, usually a LoveInterest. Either they have BelligerentSexualTension, are an AccidentalPervert, or just have no idea how to [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove handle feelings of love and attraction]]. May also overlap with ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend if her LoveInterest is threatened or in danger. \\

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* '''Sweet''' (or ''Dere''): These Tsundere have ''deredere'' as their default mood. They are [[NiceGirl [[NiceGuy sweet, kind and generous]], but just happen to have a [[PervertRevengeMode hidden violent]] [[UnprovokedPervertPayback side as well]]. In this case, temper is almost always triggered by someone or something else, usually a LoveInterest. Either they have BelligerentSexualTension, are an AccidentalPervert, or just have no idea how to [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove handle feelings of love and attraction]]. May also overlap with ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend if her LoveInterest is threatened or in danger. \\
28th Sep '15 12:58:25 AM bzitka_yaknotz
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This trope is OlderThanFeudalism, dating back to at least ancient Rome.
28th Sep '15 12:57:09 AM bzitka_yaknotz
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->''"Oh, Arnold, how I love you. And yet I hate you! And yet I '''love''' you. And yet I '''hate''' you! And yet I '''LOVE''' you."''
-->-- '''Helga Pataki''', ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold''


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->''"Oh, Arnold, how I love you. And yet I ->''"Odi et amo. quare id faciam, fortasse requiris?\\
nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior."\\
'''Translation''': "I
hate you! And yet and I '''love''' you. And yet love. Perhaps you ask why I '''hate''' you! And yet do this?\\
I '''LOVE''' you."''
do not know, but I feel it happen and I am torn apart. ''
-->-- '''Helga Pataki''', ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold''

'''Catullus''', ''Creator/{{Catullus}}''

12th Mar '15 7:52:57 AM ChaoticNovelist
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In addition, there appear to be three major specific "Classes", which while more common with Harsh may sometimes fit with Sweet.

* The '''"Wolf-Girl"-class Tsundere''' who can't or won't be honest about her feelings, is quick to judge her love interest (or the main character in a harem comedy) badly, and usually pelts him with violence at the slightest provocation, real or imagined. Bonus points if she calls him an idiot for not understanding her feelings outside his earshot. Prime examples are Nana from ''Manga/ToLoveRu'', Asuka Langley Soryu from ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' (though she also has traces of other types), Fumino from ''LightNovel/MayoiNekoOverrun'', Naru Narusegawa from ''Manga/LoveHina'', Louise from ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero''.

* The '''Discipline-class Tsundere:''' Usually a fellow student assigned some role of authority, hall monitor, school president, etc. who is rather strict in rules enforcement. She is quick to blame the love interest for breaches of etiquette and tries to punish him for it. This usually surprises him in that he's getting singled out for attention over others. Romantic interest seldom comes to mind as the reason (at least until he gets wind of further evidence). Prime examples would be Yui of ''Manga/ToLoveRu'', Asuna of ''OreShura'', Kyou of ''VisualNovel/{{Clannad}}'', and Misaki of ''Manga/MaidSama''.

* The '''Tragic Past-class Tsundere:''' This poor girl has a DarkAndTroubledPast that makes understanding her feelings, let alone expressing them highly problematic for everyone, including herself. As such, approaching her is rather delicate, and if she approaches someone else, expect many misunderstandings good or bad. While violence towards the Love Interest is not required, it often occurs. Prime Examples include Satellizer of ''[[Manga/{{Freezing}} Freezing]]'', Yami of ''Manga/ToLoveRu'' (Rito has not one or two, but THREE Tsundere in his UnwantedHarem), and Taiga Aisaka from ''LightNovel/ToraDora''. The aforementioned Asuka Langley Soryu also turns out to be one upon reveal of her past.
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